I can't even nicely develop anything in rust in my 8 gigs of RAM. The language server literally eats up 3+ GB of RAM. And the compile times are awful even for a hello world project. Why is it so hostile to lower end computers if it wants to be used as a systems programming language? Explain this shills.
Its sending your computer usage and browsing data back to home base.
sorry, can't hear you over my cpu fan on my 16 core ryzen processor compiling the SHIT out of my rust projects so that they run with max double digit MB of memory in production
You are part of the problem.
See in the old days this would have been rightfully pointed out ad retarded. The fact that you need a 16 core ryzen to run or compile rust means that it is bloated and inefficient.
>sorry, can't hear
Literally why nobody has any respect for rust.
You realise most people have the lowest end PC they could afford. These are the people for whom your software needs to function correctly.
It's intentional. The whole thing is a psyop by the CIA + Illuminati to break the seventh seal and control the weather so they can convince us that the moon is real
At least you make a compelling argument compared to
>Muh troons
I used to like Rust but all the internal drama is a massive red flag.
Not op but
No memory model
No standard
Founders are leaving the project
For all the blithering about memory safety it still has easy to replicate memory leaks
Large executable size
Horrible dependency management
Not self hosted
Really take your pick. I'll grant you that some of those items are more subjective than others.
>No memory model
>No standard
fair
>Founders are leaving the project
no?
>For all the blithering about memory safety it still has easy to replicate memory leaks
Memory safety was never about leaks
>Large executable size
because it's statically linked and unstripped by default
>Horrible dependency management
better than pretty much every other language
>Not self hosted
Cranelift
Also why does that even matter?
Rust devs are leaving the project and asking for their names to be removed from the project. It's that bad. Memory safety was always about leaks. Until rustannies redefined memory leaks. Still has a large binary size.
C/C++>>>>> rust and especially in dependency management. With C and C++ you only have to copy a few source files and a build script. Crane lift is no way shape or form self hosted. Rust is compiled by clang. Clang is programmed in C++. Rust is not self hosted. The crane lift copium is just copium.
Leaks don't generally cause vulnerabilities and Rust only leaks if you do it on purpose or if you go way overboard with reference counting, this really isn't a big deal. When the Chromium people write another blog post about their memory safety mitigations, how often do they talk about memory leaks?
>Leaks don't generally cause vulnerabilities
Hello coping no coder. This is retarded. You are retarded. Tell me that you've never done anything outside of web dev without telling me.
Can you describe for the class what a memory leak is?
are leaving the project
>Rust devs are leaving the project
Same thing, huh?
The rest of what you said is just cope
Now that's what I call cope.
tbh i feel bad when the people treated with prejudice feel obliged to work for free to feel some acceptance. it seems like most people hate rust for this reason, but this is the only thing that feels sympathetic to me.
I think the Go emphasis on fast compile times was a very good decision
Go's alright except it suffers from having retarded syntax and nil pointers
>language server
lol get filtered
nagger
>h e fell for it
stop being a retard
Alright lets see if rust is that slow and bloated. I just made a 32 bits vm with one core and 1GB of ram, give me something non trivial to build.
I went ahead and built ripgrep, over 2 minutes to build this sound like a lot right? Well yes and no because I also took the time to build GNU grep too and while GNU grep took only 9 seconds you have to add another 15 for ./configure, around 2min for ./bootstrap and another 2 to read the instructions and download missing dependencies. Cargo did all of that in one command.
Both of them pegged the lone core extra hard but none made the system go above 250MB of ram used.
Finally about the bloat generated GNU grep got 183MB while ripgrep has 216MB.
tl;dr: it's fucking nothing nocoders are as retarded as the rustroon cultists
Anon, please...
Come on mate, peoples are complaining about compiling rust stuff on a toaster so obviously I'm not gonna use the full power of my hardware to see if it's that bad.
It runs fine here on my 10yo laptop, the "real deal" builds are slow, but you are supposed to run then only once. Java used to be fucking crazy. And your problem is literally the language server, don't use that thing if you don't have a lot of ram.
>And your problem is literally the language server, don't use that thing if you don't have a lot of ram.
>Dont use the best feature of the language in your editor
I can't be bothered to remember that this imper comes from std::io::{} or whatever. The lsp needs to do it for me.
remember, you are the one hired to convince me to use rust. or more absurdly you do it for free. after shitposting and reading a thing or two here, i continue my life. while i continue my life, you will project my posts on the wall and come up with counter arguments, witty comments, strategies with bone glassed people in your agency. if you really believed what you are writing, you wouldn't be here.
not a rustoid but language servers eating huge swaths of RAM is pretty much the norm. LSP is a joke
Just use C++ lol. If you really want safety, look into Ada or even Ada/Sparc.
Rust is more useful than Ada Spark
C++ is far less safe than Rust.
Ada probably doesn't have as much pull in a gay night club or fury convention, so I'll give you that. I disagree that C++ is "far less safe" it can be as safe as you need it to be.
>it can be as safe as you need it to be
So why isn't it? Why do Chromium and Windows and so on keep having vulnerabilities?
It seems like every complicated piece of C++ software where it's worth looking for exploits gets exploited
Because you're citing examples of software people actually use.
Because you asked, pic related.
>allow minors to dance for us in drag
I think you need to mirror the slope vertically. :^)
>I disagree that C++ is "far less safe" it can be as safe as you need it to be.
It doesn't matter what a tranny obsessed nocoder thinks with his fridge temperature IQ thinks.
>thinks with his fridge temperature IQ thinks
>thinks ... thinks
Thanks for your input, opinion discarded with prejudice.
I tried to run clang-tidy on this because I'm sure it can catch simple cases like these but it fucking segfaulted
It's not going too well for cniles is it
>segfault
Common C++ moment
>return c
Are you retarded? Serious question.
lmao no argument
So you concede retardation?
I wasn't making an argument, I was asking you a serious question.
You DO know what preemption is, don't you?
Seplet NPC brain running off the same script.
Did you take too much HRT again?
>Still no argument
>devolves into his tranny fetish
lmao @ these buck-broken cniles
Please have a conversation with me like a normal human being.
I doubt you are a human being.
That's no longer possible. The drugs have eaten too much of his brain, death is his only possible release.
Its another episode of cniles being unable to last 5 minutes without mentioning his gay fetish challenge
And yet it's the Rusties who're constantly whoring for attention.
Curious.
>far less safe
Holy shit. KYS.
Yes. I know what I said.
You're a retard.
Nah you are just in denial.
Good, it filters the poor.
>The language server literally eats up 3+ GB of RAM
Post task manager
> And the compile times are awful even for a hello world project
Never had this issue
t. I use 8G memory too.
When is Jonathan blow going to release his fucking language? Has anyone even got into the beta? Just fucking release the language already.
>Has anyone even got into the beta?
Yes. Those who are actually worthy.
rustards need to fuck off.
I literally don't care about their demented shitty language at this stage.
>Point out obvious unsoundness
>Not even the compiler is able to catch it
>Get so defensive you call the poster retarded
Hmm I think I'm sticking to Rust.
And stay there.
cniles be coping my retarded Rustoid.
joke fucking language dumb cniles I wonder why they would even hold on to their legacy language! IMAGINE CARING ABOUT LEGACY SUPPORT!