This. >wahhh, why do europoors get the stripped down base model single cab pieces of shit? >I'm tired of having usable pickups that can do more than haul manure!
Since Ford got rid of the tiny single cab long bed ranger there have been morons begging for a $20k spartan level pickup despite never having spent more than $5000 on a vehicle ever and never buying a brand new vehicle either. Theres a reason its a struggle to find a bare bones base model anything today, and its not because they've sold them all. If you want a cheesedick pickup they're still on the road and available for purchase, you won't even buy those.
>morons begging for a $20k spartan level pickup despite never having spent more than $5000 on a vehicle ever and never buying a brand new vehicle either.
This is me. But if some bigger idiot doesn't buy one new and let it 90% depreciate, where will I get my next shit box? I almost certainly wouldn't buy one new if they offered it, but I'd by the fuck out of them in twenty years or so. Why don't car makers ever consider the 4th hand market?
I hope you enjoy your truck that's been through multiple normie retard owners who didn't do oil changes/any maintenance. Meanwhile I, the idiot who bought new, will get to enjoy a truck that I know for a fact has only had the best oil and fuel run through it with a pristine maintenance record. And it will probably run for 1,000,000+ miles.
>But if some bigger idiot doesn't buy one new and let it 90% depreciate, where will I get my next shit box?
I get it man but thats another reason manufacturers dont' make it. Great they might sell some of those trucks, maybe break even on R&D costs, then discontinue it because sales taper off. Then you buy one with 200k miles 15 years after production ended complaining you can't buy a new one in good shape. Where is their incentive to make it?
>Then you buy one with 200k miles 15 years after production ended complaining you can't buy a new one in good shape. Where is their incentive to make it?
Manufacturing needs to work like NFTs where the manufacturer gets a cut of every future sale
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dealerships basically do if they have loyal customers. i remember looking at a car once and running the vin and seeing that it had sold 4 times from the same dealership. made a big chunk of cash i'm sure selling it new, then each used sale they probably made at least $5k.
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Anonymous
Oh great idea; so when I buy a used car I can pay 8% sales tax on it again, the manufacturer gets their 8%, then I get the joy of registering and repairing it, all so some multi-billion dollar company can get a few more dollars out of a 20 year old vehicle.
I get that, but at the same time I paid $20k for my wife's truck when it was 5 years old, originally had a $57k sticker. Assuming it goes 30 years total like I expect a truck to, and not the ~8 implied by the pricing, (pretty good odds considering I bought it over 3 years ago lol.) that's a shit load of extra cash to be laying out hoping the manufacturer hears the signal and listens to it over what their ~~*analysts*~~ have to say. I can't imagine myself being that selfless
Because then he couldn't flex on others with his brand new truck that has apple car play, lane assists, auto pilots, keyless entry and a 32" display on the dadh
If fleets don't need them why do you think you do?
Also why do these still look like they're straight out of the third world? If they want people to buy these they should make them look like a mini F-150 instead of a talibanmobile. The Maverick looks more F-150 like than these ffs.
The hell do you even need this for? If you're actually doing hard labor and need a long truck for your job just buy an F150. If you're not, you will never need a bed that long.
it's a third vehicle for me, just want something small and cheap to drive in the winter and picking stuff up around town. going to just buy an older truck but wanted to see what companies were offering new and burst out laughing when i saw this pos LOL
The hell do you even need this for? If you're actually doing hard labor and need a long truck for your job just buy an F150. If you're not, you will never need a bed that long.
Americans will never understand. These are cheap work vehicles for construction wagies. Get all the equipment and materials they need in the back, small enough to drive around cities easily and navigate tight parking lots etc.
It's not a work+family car like people use f150s for. It's a simple work car often sold as fleet vehicles.
We do understand though, we have single cab long bed base model half tons for exactly the same purpose. We just don't have many situations where the relatively small difference between a midsize and a half ton makes a big difference for that kind of role. (Midsize trucks actually make MORE sense as personal trucks here, since a lot of people need to park them in small house garages or cramped apartment complex parking and so on, a big part of why I have a Ranger myself is that my driveway is small and an F-150 would stick out, which isn't acceptable on my narrow street.)
Also usage arrangements - typically owned by a business and driven during work hours on a logbook by employees (fuel rebates, depreciation etc.) for specific jobs. Four seats is a bad thing it will get driven around illicitly at weekends. Remember these are poor countries.
The larger they are the more lenient the emissions and fuel economy requirements. Our retarded government made it nearly impossible to make and sell small vehicles.
The giant trucks are because cafe laws make large cars with a decent V8 basically untenable, so a full size crew cab is basically the modern family sedan. The lack of regular cabs is that combined with nhtsa/epa regulations that mean automakers spend upwards of $50MM (heard that figure thrown out years ago, might be twice that now) to certify a single engine/transmission/body combination. That's also why station wagons and manual transmissions keep disappearing: if the manufacturer doesn't expect more than that $50MM in incremental contribution margin from a given body style (adding a regular cab option) they won't make it. Gross margins are probably ~30% so you'd need to sell $150MM worth. But actually the margins are higher on the crew cab, so when you factor in cannibalization that number will be way higher. How many people would buy a regular cab ranger that wouldn't buy a different Ford if it weren't available? Doubtful it's enough to justify it.
-t.MBA
Yeah, but Ford has raised prices so much on Focus that it’s obvious they don’t want to sell them. The same KIA Ceed costs 8000€ less with 7 year warranty.
>illegal
Who the fuck cares? Pay the cost and plenty of people would be happy to import it for you. Register it out of a free state if you're going to be a cuck. Plenty of states allow you to register whatever the fuck you want, this could easily be listed as an offroad vehicle so in my state you could take it anywhere but a highway. At least it gets you a plate on it.
Oh and definitely could classify as a husbandry/farm vehicle. If you only use it solely for husbandry in AZ you don't even need a plate. So just always have plants and farm equipment in the back and boom no reg required.
Trugs are evolving in to vans slowly but surely. The vestigial bed will soon come with a hard cap instead of flat cover. Then the cap will have windows. Then it won't be removable. Then swing out double doors make more sense at that point and....
like seriously how hard is this
just offer it
lmfao
No one will buy it. The market for friendless, familyless plywood enthusiasts is incredibly small
This.
>wahhh, why do europoors get the stripped down base model single cab pieces of shit?
>I'm tired of having usable pickups that can do more than haul manure!
Since Ford got rid of the tiny single cab long bed ranger there have been morons begging for a $20k spartan level pickup despite never having spent more than $5000 on a vehicle ever and never buying a brand new vehicle either. Theres a reason its a struggle to find a bare bones base model anything today, and its not because they've sold them all. If you want a cheesedick pickup they're still on the road and available for purchase, you won't even buy those.
>morons begging for a $20k spartan level pickup despite never having spent more than $5000 on a vehicle ever and never buying a brand new vehicle either.
This is me. But if some bigger idiot doesn't buy one new and let it 90% depreciate, where will I get my next shit box? I almost certainly wouldn't buy one new if they offered it, but I'd by the fuck out of them in twenty years or so. Why don't car makers ever consider the 4th hand market?
I hope you enjoy your truck that's been through multiple normie retard owners who didn't do oil changes/any maintenance. Meanwhile I, the idiot who bought new, will get to enjoy a truck that I know for a fact has only had the best oil and fuel run through it with a pristine maintenance record. And it will probably run for 1,000,000+ miles.
>But if some bigger idiot doesn't buy one new and let it 90% depreciate, where will I get my next shit box?
I get it man but thats another reason manufacturers dont' make it. Great they might sell some of those trucks, maybe break even on R&D costs, then discontinue it because sales taper off. Then you buy one with 200k miles 15 years after production ended complaining you can't buy a new one in good shape. Where is their incentive to make it?
>Then you buy one with 200k miles 15 years after production ended complaining you can't buy a new one in good shape. Where is their incentive to make it?
Manufacturing needs to work like NFTs where the manufacturer gets a cut of every future sale
dealerships basically do if they have loyal customers. i remember looking at a car once and running the vin and seeing that it had sold 4 times from the same dealership. made a big chunk of cash i'm sure selling it new, then each used sale they probably made at least $5k.
Oh great idea; so when I buy a used car I can pay 8% sales tax on it again, the manufacturer gets their 8%, then I get the joy of registering and repairing it, all so some multi-billion dollar company can get a few more dollars out of a 20 year old vehicle.
I get that, but at the same time I paid $20k for my wife's truck when it was 5 years old, originally had a $57k sticker. Assuming it goes 30 years total like I expect a truck to, and not the ~8 implied by the pricing, (pretty good odds considering I bought it over 3 years ago lol.) that's a shit load of extra cash to be laying out hoping the manufacturer hears the signal and listens to it over what their ~~*analysts*~~ have to say. I can't imagine myself being that selfless
weird flex, but okay.
Why not just spend the money on a 2 door and rebuild it? Either yourself or at the shop it should cost around the same, shouldn't it?
Because then he couldn't flex on others with his brand new truck that has apple car play, lane assists, auto pilots, keyless entry and a 32" display on the dadh
If fleets don't need them why do you think you do?
Also why do these still look like they're straight out of the third world? If they want people to buy these they should make them look like a mini F-150 instead of a talibanmobile. The Maverick looks more F-150 like than these ffs.
it's a third vehicle for me, just want something small and cheap to drive in the winter and picking stuff up around town. going to just buy an older truck but wanted to see what companies were offering new and burst out laughing when i saw this pos LOL
>need something cheap
why the fuck are you looking at new trucks then?
The hell do you even need this for? If you're actually doing hard labor and need a long truck for your job just buy an F150. If you're not, you will never need a bed that long.
Americans will never understand. These are cheap work vehicles for construction wagies. Get all the equipment and materials they need in the back, small enough to drive around cities easily and navigate tight parking lots etc.
It's not a work+family car like people use f150s for. It's a simple work car often sold as fleet vehicles.
We do understand though, we have single cab long bed base model half tons for exactly the same purpose. We just don't have many situations where the relatively small difference between a midsize and a half ton makes a big difference for that kind of role. (Midsize trucks actually make MORE sense as personal trucks here, since a lot of people need to park them in small house garages or cramped apartment complex parking and so on, a big part of why I have a Ranger myself is that my driveway is small and an F-150 would stick out, which isn't acceptable on my narrow street.)
Also usage arrangements - typically owned by a business and driven during work hours on a logbook by employees (fuel rebates, depreciation etc.) for specific jobs. Four seats is a bad thing it will get driven around illicitly at weekends. Remember these are poor countries.
My bed is 8.5 feet long and I've only actually used it once. Feels good man.
where ya gonna put all the mexicans?
Why not just buy a regular cab, short box base model F150 with a N/A V6? It would be way more reliable.
uhhhh NuTruck xisters???? how do we respond
call him a tranny
or poor
or both
CAFE laws endorsed by liberals and written by lobbyists make OP’s dream problematic.
I don't understand how emissions laws made all trucks gigantic 8ft tall pieces of shit with tiny beds, qrd pls
The larger they are the more lenient the emissions and fuel economy requirements. Our retarded government made it nearly impossible to make and sell small vehicles.
The giant trucks are because cafe laws make large cars with a decent V8 basically untenable, so a full size crew cab is basically the modern family sedan. The lack of regular cabs is that combined with nhtsa/epa regulations that mean automakers spend upwards of $50MM (heard that figure thrown out years ago, might be twice that now) to certify a single engine/transmission/body combination. That's also why station wagons and manual transmissions keep disappearing: if the manufacturer doesn't expect more than that $50MM in incremental contribution margin from a given body style (adding a regular cab option) they won't make it. Gross margins are probably ~30% so you'd need to sell $150MM worth. But actually the margins are higher on the crew cab, so when you factor in cannibalization that number will be way higher. How many people would buy a regular cab ranger that wouldn't buy a different Ford if it weren't available? Doubtful it's enough to justify it.
-t.MBA
>-t.MBA
funny way to spell homosexual
>-t.MBA
What does this have to do with basketball?
Make it hybrid like the maverick. Problem solved
>May it gay
>Problem solved
>I was a small, inexpensive, fuel efficient truck
>nooooo not like that!
I think you added the fuel efficient part. Most people are fine with high teens/low 20s.
okay i found these but they sell them in ireland but not the US
i am no longer laughing i am now angry
Ford Europe gets all the good stuff. They still have the Focus ST & Fiesta ST.
Yeah, but Ford has raised prices so much on Focus that it’s obvious they don’t want to sell them. The same KIA Ceed costs 8000€ less with 7 year warranty.
Theyre trying to force you to look at EVs.
They’re trying the same shit in America but instead of falling for it or buying smaller shoeboxes, most of us are just keeping what we have longer.
41 thousand euros are you fucking kidding me? Should be 20k, it’s a totally bare bones stripped down midsize with a manual transmission. WTF.
Why can't they put that cab on the Maverick?
Because the Maverick is unibody, and make it a regular cab is the same as making a completely difference vehicle
34k usd
>$10k USD
>illegal in the “free” states of America
So gay. I would love to have one of those then a cheap beater car. I want an imported kei truck but they can't be made road legal in my state
god what an ugly piece of shit
fuck toyota man that is literally the perfect vehicle
>illegal
Who the fuck cares? Pay the cost and plenty of people would be happy to import it for you. Register it out of a free state if you're going to be a cuck. Plenty of states allow you to register whatever the fuck you want, this could easily be listed as an offroad vehicle so in my state you could take it anywhere but a highway. At least it gets you a plate on it.
Oh and definitely could classify as a husbandry/farm vehicle. If you only use it solely for husbandry in AZ you don't even need a plate. So just always have plants and farm equipment in the back and boom no reg required.
nice SUV with a bed
Trugs are evolving in to vans slowly but surely. The vestigial bed will soon come with a hard cap instead of flat cover. Then the cap will have windows. Then it won't be removable. Then swing out double doors make more sense at that point and....
Post your car
automotive equivalent to trunk obesity
all modern car designers need to be shot
rangers are lifestyle vehicles
>F150 XLT is $65k CAD starting
who the fuck can afford trucks anyway? even Rangers start at $45k+
>what color you want?
>White, Shiny white, slightly darker white, or no white at all.
JFC modern cars are fucking joke.