I am convinced that voice training is a scam and that nobody can get better than just whatever voice genetics has given them. No matter what anyone does or says, they always sound like a dumbass tranny trying their best to mimic female speech and it just pisses me off to know that this is something determined by genetics, and that you will never be able to convince anyone who hears your voice that you are a woman no matter how much you try.
https://voca.ro/1dkQctbN9kie
So fuck it, why even bother. Why even try in the first place. Just stop, it doesn't really even fucking matter anyway and its gonna change nothing and its a whole lot of effort for absolutely nothing. You are doing nothing but wasting time.
i pass vocally 95% of the time after voice training
stop being brainwormed
vocaroo your favorite Minions quote, bitch
I liked the wolf vocaroo you did recently btw. I've been meaning to catch you while you were online and say hi
How do you voice train literally how? Nobody ever fucking explains it they just make fun of people who can't do it or give you vague nonadvice
there's not much to say, just practice. a lot. experiment with your voice and learn to better control it
there's no 1 size fits all exact straightforward step by step guide to it you just gotta figure out your own voice
watching stuff like Zheas videos (TransVoiceLessons) can help and don't get discouraged that you don't understand on the first watch as i've seen some people, because there's a lot of information, it's fine to rewatch them overtime as you learn more
brainworms
https://voca.ro/12mZVuk2Wi5H
it will never happen. it will never get better. its really just genetics.
https://voca.ro/1hZBqTIvLjDg
this was me like a month or two after I started voice training
https://voca.ro/16znEMa2A0dK
I'd say I sound a lot better now and this was definitely not a waste of time. human perception is far from objective, so it's more likely that you're just being overly hard on yourself. keep working on it and drink plenty of water. you'll be fine
you sound the same to me in both clips. its just a difference in microphone quality. once again, good genetics.
holy shit, someone needs to have their worms taken care of
my voice didn't start somewhat passing until like 6-8 months of voice training almost every day and the difference is very clear.
well i hope the same happens to me, but i doubt it. fuck training though anyway, ive only ever spoken to other people or myself and thats all im probably ever gonna do since its just a scam.
>https://voca.ro/1dkQctbN9kie
>https://voca.ro/1hZBqTIvLjDg
oh nvm you just want attention
BIG DOG
LITTLE DOG
haha lmfao it's so funny and delusional do yall hear yourselves (literally) LOL
thats literally what im saying dude, most trannys stay sounding like trannys
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I love these memes hahaha
I just wished I had good fucking genetics instead of having to sound like the fucking manliest man alive naturally. Why does life have to be like this, I swear to god that someone up there in the sky decided that I was targeted. https://voca.ro/13OKbl3muAHg
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https://voca.ro/1dvxxLoKFnwc
dont give up anon! i sounded terrible when i started a few monthd ago, now i only sound bad! thats a massive improvement btw lol
i didnt even bother reading beyond the op saying voice training is a scam, didnt see their vocaroo, its just an offbrand soph being insecure/attention seeking lol im dumb
im more like soph if what soph was always thinking was objective reality
wut
insecure but right instead of wrong
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Embrace mascVoice
Confidence is sexy, gayvoice is not
https://voca.ro/16j1dm6db9Fa
Very nice, anon.
>So fuck it, why even bother. Why even try in the first place. Just stop, it doesn't really even fucking matter anyway and its gonna change nothing and its a whole lot of effort for absolutely nothing. You are doing nothing but wasting time.
saying that you're hopeless is one thing but telling other people to give up is fucking evil, fuck off anon. Stop trying to spread your brainworms to people with real, good, futures ahead of them
If I talk from small dog I just have this weird soft gay voice that doesn't pass as a womans
i love non passing mtf voices literally so much, the gentle huskiness and how they try so hard to talk softly but there's also just a slight edge to it. stop voice training and embrace it
https://voca.ro/12ha9gk7SOqs
https://vocaroo.com/1gkHzdWoJYIi
https://vocaroo.com/105aYDtWxWXE
:3
https://voca.ro/1gn65aju97yu
I'm not really sure, saying you don't really sound like a homosexual is a bit disingenuous
yea its a joke
I think it's a matter of pre-post puberty.
Exactly, it really doesn't matter once your voice drops. You've reached a point of no return, and you can never sound the way you want to afterwards. It will always be rough, and people will always be able to tell that you are transgender. Telling yourself anything others is being delusional.
>Exactly, it really doesn't matter once your voice drops.
is this thread not full of examples of people with passing voices anon? or are you just bumping your shit bait thread?
i honestly truly think that it comes down to peoples genetics and some people are just fucked from the get go and i hate people saying that everyone can get better with training. like how not everyone can sing and have a good vocal range. the only people who really post positively in these threads are the lucky ones.
have you not heard the crazy progress people make on here?
I've not met anybody who hasn't got passing results from *consistent* training
the biggest problem is a lot of people will not do it every single day
are you training resonance daily anon? are you training your pitch anon? you gotta use it to get it
I know it seems unachievable from where you're at now but I promise it comes with time, it took me a year to get a nice passing voice but now that I have it it's changed my life completely as far as voice passing goes. You can have that too anon, I can link some resources if you'd like
Yeah, when I talk to people or I talk to myself when at home I try to use the highest possible resonance and I try to keep my pitch in line with what it should be and have been doing that on and off for like a year now (though thats probably like only 10 hours of face to face conversation, with a lot more of me talking in the car or at home). But honestly, yeah I suppose I could use some resources.
But I honestly think that this is my limit: https://voca.ro/1bZ3rJJVb9nE
>https://voca.ro/1bZ3rJJVb9nE
well you're much further along than you give yourself credit for with your posts anon, nothing really tranny sounding about your voice imo
your resonance seems on point, your intonation needs the most work if anything imo. Do you speak with a smile?
Do you push your voice to the second voice you used in the vocaroo when daily training? It sounds really strained and that usually goes away with good practice
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/b340gq/hows_my_girl_voice_after_eight_weeks_3_im/ej2uyal/
I know transvoicelessons is really basic but this specific post was my blueprint when more consistently voice training and there's a lot of technical information that helps when you're still in the training phase
I don't how helpful that is but I can dig up more of my old resources if you'd like, it's been a while but this is really interesting stuff once you get down to it
Ask me any questions about anything you're struggling understanding and I can try to help for tonight
But honestly anon I think the biggest thing that could help you would just be more confidence in your voice, if you don't think you're improving and you don't think that you can make progress and then you are (on a mental level) limiting your capacity to continue making progress. You sound like you've come a long way, be proud of that. You earned it and you sound great.
I appreciate it. But yeah, I guess I don't speak with a smile, I didn't know I needed to lol. And about the strained part, I do use this voice semi-consistently but it kinda drops lower and lower the longer I speak (to the point where a night with my friends ends with me sounding like an absolute freak) so this is me at my best. Im driving right now so I can't look at what you linked, but I'll be sure to check it out right when I get home, but thank you regardless.
>I guess I don't speak with a smile, I didn't know I needed to lol
it makes it easier to brighten your vowels which is a key part of sounding more feminine!
https://voca.ro/12a3qv51itm4
>I do use this voice semi-consistently but it kinda drops lower and lower the longer I speak
that's pretty normal, it can get exhausting to keep your voice up for longer periods of time. That's kind of the key of voice training though is that you're using consistently enough to raise your natural resting point higher and higher until there's no strain over time anymore. Keep at it and correct yourself when it starts dropping lower for better results.
>a night with my friends ends with me sounding like an absolute freak
I know what you mean and I feel this way about myself very frequently but I promise you that you don't sound as bad as you think you do. Even in the worst case scenario where it does sound not good, you're always going to see it as far far worse because your opinions are so far skewed against yourself.
>Im driving right now
wtf anon eyes on the road
>but thank you regardless
for sure anon! keep at it, voice training is one of the most important parts of transition and making it past the point of simply passing all the way to being able to decide how you want your voice to sound is a really interesting journey to take
Best of luck!
if you have this mindset you don't deserve to pass