>hur dur ah the neolithic was actually very violent because of one single massacre right at the end of the period in one single location in southern germany dur
Most "settlements" if you can call them that were unfortified and were usually just farmsteads of extended families and not settlements at all.
Also, the dolmens and all the other neolithic lithic structures show a society that had a lot of free time, a strong community that wasn't conflicted and that had enough cohesion that allowed people from all over the countryside to come together to build structures for their dead and to honor their gods
How would any of that be possible in a violent society?
You also see a sudden abrupt ending to the megalith culture just before the metal age and the migrations of the Indo-Europeans
I'm eating now. Sorry to Robert as well.
>How would any of that be possible in a violent society?
None of those things are uncommon in a primitive society full of violence
>None of those things are uncommon in a primitive society full of violence
Give me examples of these things occurring in a society that is not urban.
Most medieval villages are not walled.
Most tribal villages are not walled
Most tribes are more violent than urbanized areas and still have common areas of spirituality. From the Maori to Huns to Pygmies and Cherokee. This is a well regarded anthropological fact. Even the Aboriginal Americans would kill each other in raids and skirmishes, and they basically lived in a stone age society themselves.
>Most medieval villages are not walled.
Central authority fucking idiot,
>Maori
Had walled settlements
>Huns
Nomads so no need
>Pygmies
How the fuck were they violent? source?
>Cherokee
Walled settlements
The Pygmies didn't even have a word violence or war.
source
Sorry to all the wiseguys. 20 seconds until I can post.
>Meanwhile with Black people
That situation improved yet?
It hasn't without intervention huh?
Weird that.
Those are abos tho
So you can record, as you are, we signal, when I got shot.
>Most "settlements" if you can call them that were unfortified
Were most medieval villages fortified?
>and were usually just farmsteads of extended families and not settlements at all.
Ok?
>Also, the dolmens and all the other neolithic lithic structures show a society that had a lot of free time, a strong community that wasn't conflicted and that had enough cohesion that allowed people from all over the countryside to come together to build structures for their dead and to honor their gods
And? That doesn't disprove the existence of warfare and violence.
>Were most medieval villages fortified?
There was a central authority that offered protection to those villages idiot.
>Ok?
Yeah, in a violent society people huddle together for protection
>And? That doesn't disprove the existence of warfare and violence.
It actually does because it takes a tight night unified society to complete huge engineering projects that require hundreds of individuals to work together as a team, a society that is fractured by tribal warfare.
Notice how the Germanics or celts never built any monumental structures? because they were constantly waring with each other
>a society that is fractured by tribal warfare
Isn't
I apologize I said idiot.
Shut up idiot, stop horse spreading so many letters to spread the mind, OH YOU READ ALL THAT AND I DIDNT CARE, no i didnt read all that for you to get a hard on and us cry.
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Nah, I am not leftist. In fact i hate feminine societies, as known as communal societies. But the venus figurines and communal (feminine) structure is evident of neolithic. Thats why they couldnt have resistance against masculine, chad, bronze wielders. Bronze age narratives are always masculine, they center themselves around a father sky deity and a male hero figure (baal, gilgamesh...)
And they slaughtered innocents like animals, I think peace should be the way to go for humans. War is hell especially tribal war
The narrative is completely incorrect. And looking at ancient DNA pretty much everyone in Europe in late neolithic was at least patrilinear. There's little difference between farmers and steppe people and steppe people.
>bronze wielders
They used stone, sometimes copper.
>There was a central authority that offered protection to those villages idiot.
Ok and? Medieval villages had more resources as well, maybe just maybe it wasn't feasible nor worth it to fortify everything because of the mode of warfare during the period.
Germanic hamlets were also small and I don't believe they were fortified either and you can't even invoke the argument that there were large states to protect them.
>Yeah, in a violent society people huddle together for protection
Not like you want them to, there are many ways warfare can be conducted, cattle raiding certainly doesn't devolve into medieval or ancient sieges of tiny villages.
>It actually does because it takes a tight night unified society to complete huge engineering projects that require hundreds of individuals to work together as a team, a society that is fractured by tribal warfare.
This is simply not true, it's an assumption you make but did not prove, I don't care if it "sounds good" to you, it's not an actual fact.
>Notice how the Germanics or celts never built any monumental structures? because they were constantly waring with each other
Greek city states were warring each other all the time as well.
>Germanic hamlets were also small and I don't believe they were fortified either
They had weapons specifically designed for war. There hasn't been found any neolithic weapons of war at least not in central Europe
>This is simply not true
Give me an example of a tribal society plagued with warfare that have built monumental structures. I'll wait
>Greek city states were warring each other all the time as well.
For fuck sake you are dense, the greeks were urbanized and civilized you moron, they don't count.
See
There is a section for weapons, remember to KYS and FUCK OFF
One mass grave or even a few mass graves doesn't tell you anything dumbass
>Give me an example of a tribal society plagued with warfare that have built monumental structures. I'll wait
Neolithic Europe 😉
>plagued with warfare
A few isolated massacres is not evidence of being plagued by warfare retard
How many examples of massacres can you find for Iron Age Germany or Gaul without using written sources?
The neolithic massacres might have something to do with there being a terrible famine caused by crop diseases so clans exterminated each other to survive.
It took me a single google search you fucking retard:
>Even though many fractures and weapon traumas are
>known from the Neolithic in northwestern Europe it
>is very difficult to estimate the frequency of warfare.
>The palaeopathological literature provides plenty of
>individual cases, but few regional syntheses with a
>perspective on population (Walker 2001, 584). The
>number of injuries seems to rise in the Neolithic, however, and traumas are most often seen on male skeletons (Vencl 1999, 71). This indicates that culture,
>and not just random accidents, which might be distributed equally among both sexes, conditions the injuries. Warfare is the most logical explanation, because the >ethnographic record shows us that this is
>mostly a male activity. The frequency of injuries has
>only been calculated for the Linear Pottery culture,
>where nearly 20% of the skeletal material suffered
>from trauma (Petrasch 1999, 509). Most of the skeletons with injuries were found in a few mass graves,
>so the actual figure might be significantly lower.
https://faculty.uml.edu/ethan_spanier/Teaching/documents/WarfareintheNeolithic.pdf
More:
>Anthropological analyses of trauma can also give
>information about the character of war. The man
>from Porsmose shows the result of an ambush, but
>single skeletons with injuries, can also represent the
>victims of an ambush. The Early Neolithic mass
>graves often contain many women and children, and
>the location of the injuries show that many individuals
>have been struck down from behind (Wahl & König
>1987, 175ff.). A similar pattern is seen in the massacres described in anthropological sources. Massacres
>are also known from the later parts of the Neolithic,
>e.g. the mass grave with more than 100 individuals
>from Roaix, and the number of victims often corresponds to the size of an average group or settlement
>(Keeley 1996, 68f.). The skeletons with trauma interpreted as evidence for cannibalism could also represent the, perhaps mutilated, victims of a massacre.
>Regular battles are suggested by the many fractures
>and trepanations on the left side of the skull, probably
>a result of close combat with a right-handed opponent
>(Bennike 1985, 98).
>Injuries are very important to the analysis of Neo-
>lithic warfare, but it is difficult to estimate the frequency of war. Some skeletons showing indications of
>a violent death also have older healed wounds, which
>testify that war was not always a unique incident
>(Wahl & König 1987, 177). Though victims left on a
>battlefield are hardly ever preserved and it can be
>very difficult to detect trauma, the skeletal material
>clearly shows that violent conflicts took place in the
>Neolithic period of northwestern Europe.
Information age my ass, this is the fucking age of laziness. KYS and fuck YOU
>It actually does because it takes a tight night unified society to complete huge engineering projects
Incorrect. One motivated man can do it. One single family can do it. They just need time.
It does not require a collection of tribes. These arent the Giza pyramids.
The neolithic is the comfiest time in history.
>tfw will never be a stone age farmer with an 11 year old wife and have 10 kids with her in a peaceful rural chill as fuck countryside of pristine gorgeous European forests and woodlands 🙁
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Neolithic society was a feminine society, this is not to demean them or attack their legacy. They associated earth with a goddess which archaeologists dub as "venus", they were not warlike unlike masculine expansionism and probably they were more equal than earlier mesplithic economic mode. I would expect neolithic would be comfortable and not valuing strength in any way, because communal lifestyle is a feminine lifestyle. Maybe thats why more masculine calcoltihic age and finally even more masculine bronze expansion quickly replaced the feminine neolithic societies in quick phase, they didnt had strength to oppose the expansion and they didnt value any military caste that wpuld have adopted bronze tools to oppose invaders.
I didn't read that. But don't go to jail.
>one
>Here we provide evidence of killing on a massive scale in prehistory that was not directed to a specific family, based on genome-wide ancient DNA for 38 of the 41 documented victims of a 6,200 year old massacre in Potočani, Croatia and combining our results with bioanthropological data. We highlight three results: (i) the majority of individuals were unrelated and instead were a sample of what was clearly a large farming population, (ii) the ancestry of the individuals was homogenous which makes it unlikely that the massacre was linked to the arrival of new genetic ancestry, and (iii) there were approximately equal numbers of males and females. Combined with the bioanthropological evidence that the victims were of a wide range of ages, these results show that large-scale indiscriminate killing is a horror that is not just a feature of the modern and historic periods, but was also a significant process in pre-state societies.
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In the later neolithic , of course there was conflict but is was extremely rare in the neolithic period. Not many megaliths in eastern europe sswell, that might explain it
>I2 spreads all over Western Europe during the Middle Neolithic
>but apparently there was 0 warfare
Amazing I2 bulls being so hung the wives of neolithic farmers are fucked them behind the farmers' backs.
>archeology that supports me
GOOD
>archeology that contradicts me
BAD
literally you. dumbass