Which dark pattern and other fuckery will Apple put in place? They sure won't make the process as simple as just enabling an option once.
How will Apple try to fool EU regulators?
Which dark pattern and other fuckery will Apple put in place? They sure won't make the process as simple as just enabling an option once.
They bent the knee, just like with USB-C.
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/23/11/08/1937236/apple-says-it-expects-to-make-app-store-policy-changes-due-to-eu-dma
A lot of engineers in Apple may want to make this change. But the economic argument is weak for them, since they would give up $10s of billions per year from in app gem purchases. So government has to force it.
It's different from usb C Apple would have made that change around this time anyway. For a port, you can only do the change when the majority of people want it, not just the majority of LULZtards. People were upset when lightning replaced 30pin which was an obvious huge upgrade. While usbc and lightning are not much different and the benefit is just one cable everywhere.
>How will Apple try to fool EU regulators?
they can't
> They sure won't make the process as simple as just enabling an option once.
they don't have a choice
> since they would give up $10s of billions per year from in app gem purchases.
good. aren't they a multi-trillion dollar company? they can afford the hit to their overinflated shareprice, itoddler
>It's different from usb C Apple would have made that change around this time anyway
wasn't going to happen. they were forced.
I'm saying they'll be fine of course. But no one in the company is gonna do it on their own. The share price is the decision maker... a greater understand of incentives will improve your analysis
Why was Apple going to stay on lighting ? They already had usb c everywhere else.
>they already
...avoided a common USB connector like the plague since the very first iPhone, just so they can sell a few more dongles.
Keep your bullshit to yourself.
iPad,MacBook uses usbc for many years. And Apple was very involved in inventing usbc. The money from dongles and lightning licensing not meaningful.
>iPad, Macbook
How are these relevant when talking about the iPhone? You're countering hard evidence with
>what about those unrelated products
Not a good look.
They didn't ignore it like the plague if they adopted it in other products, they switched at a time it made sense to do so. For the average person lightning->usb c is no upgrade. I would rather they have adopted usbc earlier personally on the iPhone.
>"when it made sense"
>it just happened to coincide with "when they were compelled to"
Don't forget to lick the other boot as well.
It coincides *because* it is the right time to do so.... the law would not pass unless there is a good reason
This is what brand brainwashing looks like.
>Verification not required.
>since they would give up $10s of billions per year from in app gem purchases
That's assuming the average consumer will sideload in the first place, which they aren't
Epic is currently suing Google because sideloading is such a shit experience for the garden variety single mom that they've pretty much given up on the idea entirely and are instead trying to get a free pass on the Google Play store
Any company can sideload apps on iOS. They just have to buy a 10 billion dollars license.
Same as with their USB thing?
You can sideload, but its 15$ for the sideloading app.
And you will have errors/Warnings/Popups each time you start a sideloaded application telling you thats its probably a virus.
Make the sideloading buggy and feature lacking so that it wont work correctly.
"This is a sideloaded app, therefore it wont be able to use your AppleID information or API"
Thats not how the usb thing works. The "Made For IPhone" thing was shutdown by the EU as soon as rumors started coming in.
they won't, because everyone is looking at them
just like they didn't with the usb-c
They'll probably limit how much external apps can do. So they "support" them but not fully.
it's kinda like what they did with those "self-service parts" they give you an option to buy a replacement screen (which costs a third of a phone), which the DRM won't recognize anyway and your phone is still gimped with camera and apps not working properly.
Probably this. "For your safety/privacy/the children".
They'll just put the sideload behind an app that have to be purchased and inside the app it will have a shit ton of ads and micropayments
They have new software "countryd" that will combine cell network info, GNSS data, account location etc. to strictly lock the sideload feature to the EU. VPNs will likely not work.
Now I hope this releases in the next few months while I'm living in Sweden
Are there too many migrants in swedistan or its not true? Do you feel safe walking around with your expensive iphone in your hand?
Nothing wrong with Sweden just only here for a fixed time on work assignment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden
I heard once that European notion of rights tend to apply more to citizens rather than the land itself. So, for instance, if a german citizen travels to Canada and he can't sideload an app on his european iPhone while in Canada... that's a problem.
California will simply copy the EU regulation then.
Apps need to be signed (15 usd per app) or they will only work for a week.
Only difference is that you won’t need sideloadly anymore
Either there will be a daily/monthly/annual limit on sideloaded installations, scheduled removal of said applications after a month or heavily limited permissions which would render most applications unusable and force people to stick with the App Store. It'll help Apple paint sideloading as the devil and make users think something is wrong and they best listen to what Apple says they should be doing. They will find a way just of sheer spite.
>apple, aka huawei of europe
Neither a gaymer or an itoddler, but I don't understand why this doesn't also apply to consoles. Manufacturers being able to block or take a cut from all software that can run on their machines seems unambiguously bad.
Their argument is that this law only applies to something like "general computing devices", and sense video games are a more specific thing, they don't have to follow this law.
the only reason consoles are a video game only device is specifically because of the locking down, though
It's only a video game device until something happens to threaten the company and they have to label it as a general computing device that also happens to be able to play games
The trade off is you get a cheaper device. No "professionals" using the device to make money off of means it can stay cheap for kids to play games with. Pc gaming is horrific value specifically because of the non gaming uses, so all opening the consoles up would do is fuck over a ton of people wanting to play for cheap.
apple is good because it keeps pajeet subhumans out
lol it will some kind of 9.99 a month program like meta with its ad free IG
Oh wow, if they also allow you to use the device without AppleID, I'll buy a 15 Pro Max.
Shit, while at it, maybe they can allow us to have a third party launcher, browser and keyboard, as well as allow you to make the text and all UI elements much smaller then all my complaints with iPhones will be gone and I'll be happy to use one.
They... won't get fooled again
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When you think of sideloading, you think of Android where you can literally just download Android Studio (for free), compile an APK yourself and distribute it (for free) completely ignoring Google Play.
Calling it now, Apple will force people who want to make their apps distributable outside the app store to pay an extra fee for developing them, and these apps will still have to be verified by Apple for them to be valid packages (thank you so much Mozilla for popularizing the asinine idea of mandatory signatures in installable packages btw). Maybe they'll lose some money with the next Fortnite, but it'll be ridiculously expensive for any small developer.
They already do that. The only platform to develop iOS apps on is macOS. The only hardware supported by macOS is Apple hardware. You need Apple hardware and a mandatory AppleID.
My guess:
>limited to EU phones
>sideloaded apps can't be backup up to iCloud
>enabling sideloading causes bank/payment apps to stop working
>loading the app can only be done through some obscure option in iTunes
>constant annoying notifications about how sideloaded apps are a security issue
sideloading causes bank/payment apps to stop working
the app can only be done through some obscure option in iTunes
annoying notifications about how sideloaded apps are a security issue
As fas as I know, they cant do that or anything similar. The Digital Markets Act isnt about forcing sideloading, is about giving equal opportunities to third parties. And in IOS that means that the app store cant be the sole distributor AND that third parties will have equal access to the hardware and software as apple does.
I actually think they’ll just copy the Gatekeeper system from macOS and call it a day.
Why would they go through a ton of effort trying to force users away from sideloading on a technical level when they can do it on a psychological level for basically free? Barely anyone who uses an iPhone will sideload even with the option, and making it just an option (possibly each install) will make the minority of power users happy.
Of course Apple would have preferred not to do this at all, but since they’re being forced I really don’t expect them to do it “wrong” or “hostile” like everyone seems to expect. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, but I also don’t really care to sideload anyway.
I think they'll probably make side loading so inconvenient and annoying to use that itoddlers won't even bother with it. I am thinking of "extreme sandboxing" where apps outside of the app store won't have access to a bunch of Api's "sorry, to protect your privacy this app has no access to your contacts/photos/apple id,etc" or at the very least, three hundred scary pop-ups telling you that you are using apps non reviewed by Apple.