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how UK declined so hard after ww2 ?

despite their infrastructure or factories wasn't destroyed like france or germany and italy

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    War debt

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lost india
    >lost suez canal
    >were bankrupt
    >historical mighty navy that could btfo and control the world now second class to the USA
    >said USA took the imperialism is .... LE BAD pill
    it's over...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>lost india
      >>lost suez canal

      this prove that white people can't do shit without their slaves and colonies

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        all colonies except india were a net drain on the empire financially, allegedly, though india was very profitable and hugely important

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That’s a narrow way to look at the empire. Empire building was extremely popular with the lower and middle classes who saw tangible improvements in their lives from it while the bankers and industrialists hated it for cutting into their profits. In a way, It was welfare with guns and red coats. It paid off in other ways as well like mutual defense, economic support and loans, innovation, cultural supremacy, and even the financial costs of building up the colonies would have eventually broke even and become a net positive had colonial efforts continued (Canada being the best example of it).

          It’s great to see the unification of the old dominions in the form of the CANZUK treaties being negotiated right now. It benefits the people so naturally (once again) the bankers and industrialists hate it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >all colonies except india were a net drain on the empire financially
          This is a meme spouted by people who don't understand, or don't care, about what the empire was doing in those colonies, and where money was flowing towards.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The war essentially ruined the empire, trade unionism strangled our manufacturing sector and we fell behind everything untill based maggie sorted our finance sector out. Britain is still extremely influential but not in ways the norms understand so its hard to see it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >despite their infrastructure or factories wasn't destroyed
      What? Even Manchester in the north had its industrial core burnt and flattened. It never recovered until the millennial games allowed the rejuvenation and reconstruction of the city.

      Essentially this. The British people turned inwards to lick their wounds after the war despite the best efforts of ardent imperialists like Churchill and Eden to rouse them. The trauma was too great. No one was interested anymore in foreign affairs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      didn't thatcher ruined uk manufacturing over neoliberalism meme ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it wasn't profitable and was subsidised by govt, same reason american manufacturing declined, a western worker who needs to be paid 30x more than a chinese worker cannot justify his wage because he is not 30x harder working or competent.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >despite their infrastructure or factories wasn't destroyed like france or germany and italy
          That's not the benefit you think it is. US industry quickly ended up falling behind Japan and Germany because they had to start over and reinvest in modernizing. American industry was outdated and uncompetitive by the 1970s

          China wasn't exporting cars or anything high tech in the 70s/80s. Countries with actual industrial policies like Japan were the issue

          That's interesting. I always hear about Thatcher and the unions but I've never read anything about her and the financial sector. What did she do to help?

          My understanding of the City of London was that it was a centre of trade, but that's dependent on empire. With that gone, yeah there must have been some transformation into a more modern financial sector, but I didn't know that was thatcher.

          The power of the city of london started to rise with the development of eurodollar banking dating back to the 1950s.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So pay your workers fat cats.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it wasn't profitable
          Because god forbid a government makes some strategic decisions if they might hurt some fat cat's pockets, right?
          Nevermind how vulnerable the west is to logistic chain issues today, it was totally worth delocalizing industry in the third world, think of the profits!
          Nevermind China blackmailing the west and Europe having lost all power to blackmail people in return!
          Nevermind that we're having the same problem today so you basically just kicked the ball forward for a few decades and now they're trying to pay westerners like thirdies so that the whole world can be poor!
          It's not like you as a politician are meant to further the interests of the people you represent! No, only those of the people who bribe you!
          Fucking delusional retard.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thatcher just pulled the plug on the life support, it was over well before her time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it could of been saved, but the trade unions refused to let any change happen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's interesting. I always hear about Thatcher and the unions but I've never read anything about her and the financial sector. What did she do to help?

      My understanding of the City of London was that it was a centre of trade, but that's dependent on empire. With that gone, yeah there must have been some transformation into a more modern financial sector, but I didn't know that was thatcher.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I am not well read in exactly what she did to be honest, She essentially closed the unprofitable manufacturing and de regularised the financial sectors.

        Many people hater her because she didn't really provide an alternative economy for the mostly northen ex industrial towns while london became incredibly rich.

        Im not sure thats her fault though britain would be in an awful state had we continued as we were in the 70s. Northen towns still have pretty much no economy now and pretty poor compared to the south.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What do people in the north do for work now?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They don't

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Socialism and mass immigration. Thatcher turned things around but once the left gained power they pledged to punish the right with mass immigration. "Rub their face in it" in their words.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >despite their infrastructure or factories wasn't destroyed like france or germany and italy
    Is this what Amerimutts think? Every city in Britain was bombed, repeatedly, most of them on a daily basis, for years. The USA was the only industrialised country on that planet that didn't have its cities, infrastructure, and factories absolutely ruined by the war. That's the only reason you guys became the postwar powerhouse you still just about are.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Every city in Britain was bombed, repeatedly, most of them on a daily basis, for years.
      But that's wrong.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Expensive social welfare programs without the real growth in economy to back them up. I say “real”. Growth because most post war prosperity that you see is based upon borrowed money. It’s not prosperity that has increased, its debt, this is true for both the country and the individual.

    This isn’t talked about enough.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because they were retarded. At the very least they could have left their colonies but made an economic union to still extract wealth like France did and still does in Africa. They could have made a neutral bloc of power with Portugal, France, and other old world powers (hell even with Spain.) to stand up to the USA's and Soviet Union's attempt to end Imperialism.
    Instead they did nothing. Portugal at least understood that without their colonies they are a non-player on the ass end of Europe.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is their reward for having been good garden gnomeservants for centuries.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Being one of the richest and highest HDI countries in the world?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No.

        Being a multi-culti shithole of which islamic terrorism is 'part and parcel', a deindustrized wasteland choked by garden gnome-debt, which pimps its little girls to pakis mudscum on a massive scale, while having its native population become extinct in its own homeland.

        This is the reward for collaborating with garden gnomes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >/pol/tard memes
          I'm sure most brits would be lining up to emigrate to north korea or afghanistan if they could.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            High living standards in the West are due to western inventiveness and technological prowess, new garden gnome trickery. Perhaps it's not that bad now on an individual basis (if you are lucky enough not to live in the wrong part of the town) but what about in 50, 100 years when muslims and other non-whites are a majority? I doubt it'll be better than afghanistan then for whites.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >muh jooos
              >50 more years

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >muh garden gnome-induced mental knee-jerks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the irony

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because, as we all know, white nationalists control the media.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                neo-nazis control the only media you obviously consume, infographs and memes.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              *not garden gnome trickery

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              East Asia (China, Singapore, Korea, Vietnam) was once Africa-tier and now with the exceptions of rural China and North Korea are quite nice, first world places to live. Technology and education drive up living standards and those do not care about race.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because they adopted Western technology.

                My point is that the high living standards of the West are deserved and have nothing to do with garden gnomes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I’m retarded. I though you were saying that in 100 years Europe will look like present-day Afghanistan due to racial changes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Being a hated minority isn't going to be pleasant regardless of the economic level. And that's assuming it can be maintained which, looking at the history of Rhodesia and South Africa, is highly doubtful.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >things will turn bad in 50 years which is why you should be a neo-nazi dude heil hitler if only hitler didn't lost 77 years ago
                your neo-nazism has nothing to do with credible historical analysis, and everything to do with personal failings.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                neo-nazis control the only media you obviously consume, infographs and memes.

                This is getting tiresome.

                You commies have nothing of substance to say, just stale ad hominems which are based on nothing as you don't know anything about me.

                I'll just ignore anyone posting without an actual argument now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >this isn't what I look like I identify as an ss soldier
                Seethe neo-nazi, you're a loser and your perpetual crying about muh joos muh meanie england bullied Hitler doesn't qualify as serious opinions.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are white people so scared of becoming a minority? Do they have a long history of treating minorities badly or something?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's not the point. Nobody wants to be a minority in his own country. Not the Japanese, nor the garden gnomes in Israel, nor Africans, etc. But pretty much the only ones attacked for opposing their own replacement (as 'racists', 'white supremacists', 'neo-nazis', etc.) are whites.

                Also, garden gnomes have a history of inciting non-whites in western countries to hatred and violence towards whites. The effect of that is high rates of violence, low social trust, no-go zones, rapes, etc. that can be observd today in multi-racial cities across the west (blaks in the us, muslims in europe, etc.) so obviously it might get even worse when whites are a minority and lose power.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because there's nowhere to fucking go. It's one thing for all the settlements to be browned out. It's a sinister nightmare when your native homelands are subject to an irreversible brown flood. Every other race has a homeland. And I guess this is news to you, but whites are already a small minority on the global scale. There's nowhere to fucking go.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do they have a long history of treating minorities badly or something?
                Is there any group in the whole entirety of human history who doesn't?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Neoliberals in government causing massive inflation and attempting to patch up the bubble with infinite importation of labor-devaluating scabs from middle east and africa.

    Ironically if Sea Lion was a success England would have been better off then it is now after "winning" ww2 for the banker bugpeople.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Stuff like this is why I had to renounce ethnostates. Those of you who want ethnostates are pushing for socialism. We have no need for ethnostates then. Give me a capitalist country where everyone is mixed together over that, any day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        says the cuck

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Stay in the dark, MISCfag

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No.

            Fuck you.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              so sore. needs to heil, can't heil irl, can't heil online without utterly embarrassing himself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Both socialism and capitalism are cringe, anon.
        Growth for the sake of growth is an ideology of cancer cell, not a real civilizational goal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and you wouldn't have been a subhuman loser crying on LULZ.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >despite their infrastructure or factories wasn't destroyed
    Ah yes. Brittany went through the war 100% unscathed
    Retard

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sold gold

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    socialism

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It has always been difficult for me to reconcile the people they were with the people they are

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Germany and Japan had centrally planned natsoc economies that the Allies reluctantly let them keep for years after the end of WW2 to prevent the spread of communist influence, bongs couldn't keep up with them in terms of manufacturing.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beveridge and the socialists won

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    China replaced them as the main ship suppliers for South-East Asian trade routes then gradually the world
    From there it was essentially down hill

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The ordinary person didn't give a shit. They didn't care about the Empire. They didn't care about UK GDP relative to the rest of the world. Britain voted in socialist Clement Attlee after the war who immediately said "yes" to every independence movement, allowed the windrush to dock and unload Jamaican men (who couldn't find jobs and were given odd jobs by the government in newly created departments) and even sold jet engine technology to the Soviets.

    Standards of living rose. You fixate on an upturned police car and the miner's strikes in the 80s and whatever, but on the larger scale of things these upsets didn't change the general trend. Most British went from a Victorian underclass to a modern lower-middle class with color televisions, refrigerators and washing machines.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started reading a book which postulated that they went bankrupt because they created a welfare state while still maintaining a massive military expenditure.
    If Labor and Bevin had actually not been retards Britain would probably have been in the same category as the Nordics in terms of living conditions.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Name of the book? It's not by Correlli Barnett is it?

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