So sick and tired of this endless "i don't pass" and "'do I pass ?", so im gonna give you my forth edition of "How to pass". It's only the fourth edition, lot of stuff has changed since the 3td one but the core idea hasn't changed : work
> Stop waiting for HRT to turn you into whatever you want because it won't, it's just here to help you not to totally change you
> Buy new clothes
> Work on your face, wash it every morning anon, every morning, have a skin care (don't need to have something too hard, cleaning it with water and soap is a good beginning just stick to it), use makeup
> Working on your voice is hard but necessary
> But I already do that and I don't pass
Yeah guess what, cis people don't really care about us and will just misgender us because it's easier for them, doesn't mean you don't pass, they're just a bunch of shit people
> It's not this I really just don't pass
You probably pass more than you think but you're too focus on the negative stuff, and probably have a way too over the top expectation when it comes down to your transition
In short just work on yourself and stop thinking everything will magically happen because it WON'T, transitioning is LONG, it's really REALLY long alright, even after 2/3 years you may not pass because in the end we're not build the same way. In 10 months my gf was already passing while me in 18 months I still look like shit, because she CHANGE EVERYTHING, while I did NOTHING, nothing's gonna change if you change nothing, and that applies to everything in life
Don't start me with bones and skull and all your BS it's bait nobody actually care about all of these except you Im begging please stop, they don't care about your jaws, your shoulders, your hands, they really REALLY don't
>cis people don't really care about us and will just misgender us because it's easier for them, doesn't mean you don't pass
this is kinda dumb advice, the whole point of “passing” is to get your presentation to a point where cis people gender you your correct gender without thinking. if you’re doing it right, it should be easy to gender you correctly
Oh it was from an old edition, im sorry, gotta change this, you're absolutely right
That's not what I wanted to say, but again it's from an old edition I should have remove it.
Taking notes thanks everyone
> Yeah guess what, cis people don't really care about us and will just misgender us because it's easier for them, doesn't mean you don't pass, they're just a bunch of shit people
Why do trannies think passing means dressing and being seen like a homosexual?
If you pass you aren’t misgendered cause they don’t know you are troony in the first place, moron.
>will just misgender us because it's easier for them, doesn't mean you don't pass
That only applies to people who have known you pre-transition.
If they have not known you before and you get misgendered, that means you don't pass.
As for clothes:
Dress for the body you have, not the body you want.
Figuring out what works for you takes a lot of time and you won't get it right in the beginning.
As for face:
Pluck your eyebrows from underneath, women have narrower eyebrows that sit higher than mens.
As for hair:
You want long hair that looks like it is taken care of.
fifth edition:
>genetics
>genetics again
>ffs
>vfs
or just kys
>cis people don't really care about us and will just misgender us because it's easier for them, doesn't mean you don't pass
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
ultimately not passing well is a possibility you should be aware of before starting (but don't use this as an excuse to repress either). repression and boymoding lead to insanity. this is how you end up with massive breast forms. don't go there.
they look at you and they guess your gender in half a second and if you groom yourself like a girl they're ten times more likely to see a girl. if it's at all ambiguous they'll look at you for longer and decide based on that and guess what if you're boymoding they're going to go with boy.
so what'll happen is you'll wear a dress and sure people will gender you on account of the dress and others will call you "he er she" and you'll know but as time goes on and you get better at it and HRT works that'll get better. then you can wear sweatpants and a t shirt and again you'll notice one day magically even then you're gendered correctly (some combo of hrt, skincare, haircare, nails).
it'll never happen if you keep pretending to be a boy. you also must go through that awkward stage and you are only prolonging it by boymoding.
>then you can wear sweatpants and a t shirt and again you'll notice one day magically even then you're gendered correctly (some combo of hrt, skincare, haircare, nails).
>it'll never happen if you keep pretending to be a boy. you also must go through that awkward stage and you are only prolonging it by boymoding.
completely irrational
at least youre fembrained
>fembrained
damn right I girlmode
whats your point
She is right though, I litteraly can't properly pass as male anymore even if I wear a binder and my pre-transition male clothes
so why do i have to girlmode to pass? clearly it has nothing to do with your clothes
because we put effort into our transition. girlmoding isn't what clothes you wore today it's a way of life.
nothing of substance whatsoever in these words, youre just rambling.
at least I get to be a girl today
all troons are male
You do know that pre-T FTMs can pass, right?
Well, if you do everything like they do, you will lkely not pass as a woman
>You do know that pre-T FTMs can pass, right?
lie
Okay, fair they look like 12-14 year old boys.
But they can get reliably get gendered male in public.
doubt it
No amount of improoving is gonna change my upper body. My face is fine, I look like I’m 16 and I’m in my mid 20s. it’s my broad shoulders that ruin everything. I have the silhouette of a man.
putting effort into your transition is agp no cap
even if i all that she i know i would never pass, to tall, to deep of a voice, to brod a frame, a face like fricking shreck, and being in my mid 20s, no easy aces to HRT or SRS i know im fricked there for i repress, we can all pretend anyone how puts effort in passes but thats just not the truth