Background
>be me
>hanging out in my favorite little walnut grove
>place is lousy with nature energy (i think overgrown fence lines act like wires and draw it in from surrounding woodland)
>every week or so I go out there, smoke my corncob pipe, and let myself slip away
>all I know about spirit stuff I get from old hippies and whatever I experience
>I don't know if I should have protected myself somehow, or if I was alright just rawdogging my consciousness into this big pool of nature energy
Felt good tho
>anyways, two weeks back after one of these sessions, something follows me back
>presence is mild at first, barely noticeable
>it starts hiding things from me, knocking things out of my hands, little things like that to get me frustrated
>presence gets larger over the two weeks
>feels like it hangs out just out of sight, i can catch glimpses if I reach out mentally, but it hides itself if it catches me doing this
>I have a pretty good idea of what it looks like from these glimpses
I don't think it's malevolent, it just feeds off my frustration if it has nothing else. If I'm in a place with any natural energy at all it mellows out, probably drawing from there instead. In my apartment though, no dice. I just want to know how to get rid of it, or communicate with it and try to work something out, because this shit is getting annoying.
You have it good. Embrace it.
I would have it better if I could communicate with the damn thing. Right now it's just being a dick.
I would if I could get a good goddamn look at it, no idea what it would do if I made it mad somehow.
That could work, there's a well up the road the walnut grove where I found it, (it found me?)
anon you must breed the fox spirit in to submission
How? I mean, it's not physical, would I just channel sexual energy at it? I'm kinda scared of what that might do.
yes, I've done this before its real (not fake)
You need girlfriend anon, not one of a vulpine persuasion either.
he could just go hang out in succgen
Sounds like gnomes. I recommend leaving a trail of bread or cookie crumbs to the mouth of your nearest volcano or well or any deep hole to lure them into falling in.
yea its gnomes
Bumping once, this thing's really bugging me.
I will tell you what I tell every other person who has a problem with some spirit fucking with them. Burn sage, do the LBRP, and tada. No more spirits. Easy.
I'll have to get in touch with somebody for the sage, doesn't grow naturally around here.
I thought that ritual was mostly for evil spirits, lesser demons and poltergeists and such, I thought nature spirits were morally neutral. I mean, I'll give it a shot.
Anybody got a way to portably produce or contain nature energy? I bet if I give this bad boy a battery to feed from, it'll leave my emotional energy alone, removing it's incentive to be an asshole.
The lbrp gets rid of everything around you. Not just evil.
Actually doing a split-second of research, looks like you're right.
Any insight on the other thing? I kinda want to experiment with it before banishing it.
It sounds mischievous, and vaguely malevolent. I don't think it will ever hurt you but it will probably continue to fuck with you for it's own amusement. It's probably not particularly attached to you emotionally, and just views you as a practically bottomless wellspring of energy and entertainment. Not your friend, more like a tick. I'd give it the boot, personally, but if you wanna try to befriend it there's a small possibility it'd be open to that.
Sounds about right. Might hit the ol' corncob again and zone out, spread my mind out and try to get a feel for it. I'm hoping for some kind of communication if I'm lucky, but I'll probably just get a read of its emotional state. Just might have to try to find another way of keeping it entertained, or get it some way to feed so it doesn't have to feed off me.
Worst case, I deal with it's chicanery for a couple more days, then banish it.
>portable nature energy
A terrarium? maybe even buy a 5-dollar bonsai and put some moss and grass in it with some earth dug up from around tree roots.
That is an excellent idea, oughta keep it mellow in the apartment at least. I was thinking more something like a rock or mineral or talisman or something I could charge and carry around with me, since it seems pretty keen on keeping me company all day.
you're *probably* fine
you could try leaving offerings and see how it reacts
that or what said if you genuinely feel threatened then banish the lil nagger
fox spirits can be tricksters so it's most likely not wanting to genuinely harm you but moreso leech energy like a fag
pretty much this
Thanks for the advice witchbro, but I discovered it ain't a fox. It's a coyote. It's just going right along right now, but it was going nuts with the restless aura this morning.
Any advice for that?
Good thread OP. Curious as to how you identified this grove as a spiritual hot spot as I’d like to find one for myself.
I don't really know much about things other than by feel, I guess just look for a place where animals like to gather, where the plants seem grow thicker and stronger than elsewhere, but when you find it, you'll feel it.
become a coomer
Safe and if that doesn’t work you should try banishing spells. Huli Jing / kitsune are spiritual leaches like succubi. Worthless abominations but they exist nonetheless. They are attracted to intelligent people and like to feed off their energy. Try to get rid of this thing before your life goes down the toilet.
There's no Huli Jing in the west.
I don't think there's Kitsune either.
Update on the thing. I couldn't smoke to expand my awareness to try and see it yesterday because it hid my enchanted lighter. Unlike some of the other stuff it's hidden, I found it. Will try tonight.
Tell kitsune "watashi wa orokade memeshii otokonoko tbh"
It is a traditional Japanese charm
Japanese guys sure think low of themselves, huh?
Seems like a bad idea.
1, You have no reason to assume fox spirit
2. There was no protection really expected/necessary
3. Can try to communicate or banish if it's a problem. Continue your meditation (whatever you'd call it, seems to me like one) in the grove to figure out more
>1
I guess I just deduced that from the type of spirits that populate the area, and how it's been acting. It's really skittish about being reached out to mentally. Is there a good way to tell?
>2
Good to hear at least
>3
Next opportunity to go back is tomorrow, I just end up draining myself if I try that style of meditation (seems like the right word) too close together, might save it for that then.
>Is there a good way to tell?
Probably not without being some accomplished practitioner who developed faculties allowing them to sense such spirits directly. I mean, some are supposed to behave in particular ways under particular circumstances according to folklore in various parts of the world but I'd be really reluctant to put much faith in that.
Anon, you're falling for your own assumptions, likely stemming from weebery. You immediately assume it's developed enough to be sentient, that it's a "her" and that she can have physical, female form to cuddle and fuck OP with. Or that she'd care to at all. That's not how things fucking work. Enjoy your anime but never even assume it's how things would work in real world, be it occult part of it or fully mundane. You'll disappoint or even harm yoursel for whoever will take your opinions/suggestions seriously.
>Anon, you're falling for your own assumptions
Speaking from personal experience actually. This IS how things work, a lot of the time. It's more of an assumption to say that the spirit doesn't have a form that is capable of sexual activity, or wouldn't be interested in that. Sure the 'she' thing is an assumption, but that's something you're in for a huge shock about if you think that particularly matters in the slightest astrally.
Imo this advice would get OP some answers, it's not like he'd be commiting to a monogamous or super extended relationship by doing this, just testing the waters. Most of the time a spirit isn't going to attach without at least some level of interest, and this will quickly discern what level and sort of interest there might be, while intriguing the spirit.
How do (You) think things work then?
>How do (You) think things work then?
I am pretty confident many people claiming contact and recognition of spirits - don't really experience that or their assumptions themselves either create thougthforms or distort what really is there with their preconceived notions. If there's external entity, those often aren't sentient the way humans are, yet alone observing and approaching world, passage of time, physical sensations, physicality itself and interactions with people the way other people would.
Similarly with "astral sex" and "spiritual partner" stuff. People expect and believe in either as if it'd be a human thing but in spirit. Succubi threads galore. In practice, quite often people interact with random constructs, some of them of their own making, or adjusted extensions of other entities befitting expected image but without similar feelings or perceptions a human would really have. An illusionary persona.
There may be exceptions, but they are rare and, well, exceptions. By seeking a relationship with random spirit OP is far more likely to just enjoy his own delusion manifested by otherwise really thoughtless being, possibly one feeding on OP. Not malicious one, mind you, but more like insect parasite with mimicry so good it fools more intelligent beings. In case he's not, it's unlikely random spirit is like horny foreveralone animu waifu that would care to date him.
I too agree it’s all larping.
Perception is reality.
But in shared consensus, there are things that are objective and subjective perceptions become delusions
Ok that's all well and fair, but doesn't really address my point that this is a good way to attempt intelligent contact. If OP is unable to discern between a simple thought form and sentient spirit giving intelligent replies, that's kinda on them. They're specifically asking how to figure out what an apparent entity wants, and I still think what I said above is a good way to sus things out, potential delusions aside.
I only said rice because you said fox and that's a traditional offering for them, you can leave out basically anything edible, or burn anything flammable.
Definitely putting the rice out tonight, will post proofs.
I'll attempt contact after I'm augmented by tobacco smoke. Makes the meditation part real simple, and I've had good luck with visions that way too.
I suppose you're right, could be a number of things. And the folklore is all over the place. Some might consider it a companion, while others might call it an omen, and others still a malevolent spiritual parasite. Whatever it is, it's cool to keep around for now, now that I knkw how to banish it. First time dicking around with something like this. I'll try to get a better read with the pipe later, that's how the natives would have done it.
I'll try the rice thing, see if I can get any emotional responses out of it. It's been pretty lethargic today.
Just bang on the ground with a stick and do a dance then make a really ugly face. If it rains in the following day you performed this spell correctly and the energy produced in nature by the rainfall will keep the spirit satiated.
Try sending her love, hugs, that sort of stuff. Might initiate a cuddle session and sexy times.
Leave out some rice...
Then write and burn a letter asking why she is there and try to get into a deep trance so you can hear the reply.
Whenever you know it's near start masturbating. it'll soon consider you more disgusting than anything and just fuck off to go troll someone else
Only if he'll be extra weird about it, grunting, calling mommy in high-pitched voice and having the most goofy face while at it. It's the only way. The true banishment art.
Take care of it, gl
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You made a mistake by not protecting yourself. You always should. Keep in mind that your mind is yours; you ultimately can control what is and isn't in it, and you can force out anything that isn't you if you embrace the fact that your mental landscape is where you are omnipotent. If the spirit exists outside of your mind, it may take more rituals and/or salt.
Well. Tossed the menorah and the two Hebrew necklaces.
It's been pretty inactive all day. Just kinda hanging around. It's a bit bigger and more noticable than yesterday too. I've had to find a few pens and pick up some broken glass from it knocking a bottle out of my hand, but nothing like the onslaught of the last week or so. Maybe it's getting bored of me.
Can probably see you browsing the chan instead of paying attention to it.
Not my fault the only emotion it can feed on while I'm at work is abject boredom, with an occasional anxiety digestif. I don't understand why it doesn't just leave if I'm not any fun anymore.
Time to commune
are you gonna cook the rice 😕
Lmao. I hope she likes the uncooked brown rice, anon.
Taking a break to reload, here 's what I got so far.
>it's presence hung out around the cup of uncooked rice, at least it let me reach out some mental feelers
>it isn't a fox, it's a coyote
>finally started communicating back, mostly vague feelings of confusion and disappointment
>went back inside and dumped the rice, got a better idea for an offering
>lit a cigarette for it and set it out of sight, after taking the first puff for the Great Spirit, as the natives would have done
>seems to like that much better
Pic related, now I'm getting myself another bowl and we'll see where this goes.
Excellent, thanks for the updates OP.
It went pretty well.
>sit out there, lighting my pipe as its presence growing stronger as the cigarette burns
>I start passing over thoughts of the old home place, near the walnut grove where I found it
>i get back a sense of homesickness and longing
>I pass it a thought of the other places I'd seen there, of crags and glades and old equipment with trees growing through it
>I get feelings of loneliness in return, and flashes of what I think is the past, when the woodland wasn't there, probably around when the place was settled by my great-great grandfather
>i try a few words in Swedish, which would have been his tongue
> i don't know if you'd call it nostalgia, but I get back that feeling you get when you remember the past, but not in a rose-tinted glasses kind of way
I cut it off here and got it another cigarette from inside for it
>when I settled back in, it's presence was much more defined
>reaching out to it I could see details, the face, the fur, even the color
>I experimented with a few more thoughts of the grove, got back the same kinds of feelings as before
>I then fell into a vision of burning praerie, facing east away from sunset
>the smoke and haze, the smell, the wind blowing from behind.
>I just sat by and took everything, eventually coming too with my pipe empty and the second cigarette burned to ash
It's still out on the balcony, I'm finding it really easy to detect it's presence and location now, rather than it skipping around like it used to.
One of those nights, OP∆
Definitely a good session, hopefully it won't fuck with you going forward. Perhaps repeat this.
Will do, am usually a little spiritually burnt out for a couple days after something like this, but I can feel it still hanging around, though the visualization is a little muted, out of sight, it's not reacting much to me trying to reach out to it like it used to, just occasional acknowledgement
I hope it's a buddy to me, lol.
Will post updates if something interesting happens.
Well, I'm glad you got a little buddy anon.
Trickster spirit. Lucky you. That was sarcasm by the way, that sucks. Hope she's nice to you.
Are those your tight horns? DUHN-DUHN-DUHN-DUHN-DUHN-DUHN-DUHN (because I prefer the new my little pony)
Was gonna let this thread die, but something happened.
Now that it's fully realized, it's started, i don't know what you'd call it, but it's been radiating this restless energy since this morning. I can hardly bear to sit still. I don't think I'm the only one who can feel it either. Lot more people than usual shuffling about, even people that never leave their offices. Everybody's talking about finding new work, even people who were pretty happy with their jobs before. Management's been in meetings all day with people quitting or threatening to quit. I don't know what it is, but I have an overbearing urge to just get out.
See if this continues another day, do some sort of purification ritual if it does. modified lbrp or similar
>lbrp
Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram?
Yeah
Only one solution.
have sex with it.
Step one: Come to /x/
Step two: Larp because you're a pedo homosexual
Step three: Kill yourself
wtf
Why is silly putty fucking with my pagan beliefs. It is persecuting me. I don't know. Would a cylinder ignition kill all males? Is it the only way out of Nike?
Give it chicken and cannabis they like both
The fox spirits I have known are very kind and helpful, and usually not terribly powerful. Try to befriend it.