How the hell can any red blooded American drive a German or Japanese car? A few decades ago they were shooting and killing our soldiers overseas. What the hell is wrong with just buying American made automobiles?
How the hell can any red blooded American drive a German or Japanese car?
I'd rather support an enemy than a traitor.
Because I care if a car is good, not where it's from
Because they are crap
these days japanese cars are more american made than american cars
I would sooner buy a Trabant, YuGo or Chery A1 than the latest Ford/GM Cuckover (Hecho en Mexico) or a Stellantis money pit (same goes for their Italian line).
Japanese stuff is kind of shitty, but at least they are shitty in the right places.
American pre-2000 was good, though (around 2000, GM and Ford were shifting stuff to Canada and Mexico).
>American pre-2000 was good,
HAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO NO HAAAAAAAAAA!
mutts are such precious beings
Well, there are exceptions to the rule, but American cars have gone downhill. The same could be said for a lot of countries (U.K and Italy come to mind) and they all have their eras for ups and downs. Toyota in the late 2000s and early 2010s were shit, now they are alright. I think the same logic applies to any make, whether good or bad now, they all have had their peaks and troughs.
You don't get to have reasonable, measured takes on this board!
These. Too many retards on LULZ with a lot of serious delusions about older cars. Most of them were shitboxes and there is a reason why they were all junked after 60,000 miles.
I'd go as far as to say it's the culture that's been in decline for decades. Our great, great ancestors have longed for cars that were smooth, quiet, and sips fuel and let's be honest many of the cars they and their kids had were none of those. Yet for some reason boomers, boomer larpers and the most obnoxious carfags have this idea in their head that normal road cars must be loud, must be hard, and must drink fuel like an Irishman at the bar after work. If they ever meet their ancestors in heaven, they'd have their asses beat for their retardation.
I just quit going to car shows after awhile after seeing mostly the same cars I've already seen and I'm just not in the mood to look at awful, corner-cutting body work and shitty paint on cars after work. I'm a third generation bodyman and it's physically revolting looking at any car show.
You got a point, most modern American cars are big loud obnoxious thing or are just not "American" (usually from Mexico, Brazil, Korea or China these days, which does not equate to bad, but it is indicative that they are trying to cut costs wherever they can).
The Ranger is a great example of what we needed at the time, though its fuel economy is lackluster by today's standards. Something like this with a more modern engine (that gets 20+ mpg) would be great. (Inb4 Maverick and Nu-Ranger, since the Maverick is Mexican and the nu-Ranger is in a different class to the old one).
Ultimately what the auto makers in the U.S need to do is the following:
>Good fuel economy
>Fun to drive
>Made in the U.S
>Fairly priced (neither cheap nor expensive, in this case)
And it needs to be a pickup or sedan, maybe even a traditional SUV (think S-10 Blazer) or estate, but not a crossover (since crossovers are designed by the outset to be generally boring to drive).
No vehicle ticks all of these boxes, they only tick maybe one or two of them at most, sometimes none (as was the case with the EcoSport and Trax). It makes it hard to have pride in the nation's auto industry when just about everything is either outsourced or are for a niche market (Mustangs and Corvettes are not for everyone).
>American pre-2000 was good
ok member berry
now catch a ride back to the retirement home
I swear to god, 90% of posts on LULZ are all false history and rose-eyed nostalgia complaints about modern cars.
Yeah, unfortunately it's been this way for decades and not just the current timeline. People, especially the older ones, complain about how cars today look the same yet you go through historical archives of parking lots with the cars of the era and it's the same shit they complain about today.
interwar and postwar cars do something for me, i unironically love those coffin noses and flared fenders (even when the fenders got smoothed into the body from 49 on)
Today a Willys wagon showed up at the shop today and it's pretty neat that you don't see those very often. It was pretty clean.
We just had our annual cruisin' the coast in October and I've lost track of how many times I've seen boomers with pained expressions on their faces when they're driving their T-buckets around. Must suck having your spine turn to dust while riding on a very stiff suspension.
There's a Buick Eight at our shop that collects dust and has fucked up body work and rust in a few spots. Such a shame, the owner could have a good car instead. Now every year, he gets the washboys to polish it and it's not even the original single stage paint. There's areas where there were repairs done with bondo
>There's a Buick Eight at our shop that collects dust and has fucked up body work and rust in a few spots. Such a shame, the owner could have a good car instead.
don't hang around when the lightshow starts
>We just had our annual cruisin' the coast in October and I've lost track of how many times I've seen boomers with pained expressions on their faces when they're driving their T-buckets around. Must suck having your spine turn to dust while riding on a very stiff suspension.
my dad got a ride in a Jeep CJ once when he was in college. that was bone-jarring and he was like 20 at the time. lol imagine how awful that would be at 70.
I seriously despise MUH GOOD OL DAYS types. It's especially hilarious when they themselves weren't even alive to experience this time period that they yearn for, and when the people who are old enough top have experienced a time period can readily detail all the ways in which the past was categorically shittier than the present
Absolutely 'miring that two-tone Buick in the middle of the bottom row.
This photo looks to be in about 1949-50. The massive amount of prewar cars visible is a testament to the disruption to car production caused by the war.
It's gotta be at least pre-53 or so, right? Lots of prewar cars, very few postwars, all with split windshields other than the handful of Nashes with their distinct streamliner styling, like the 49 or maybe 50 Ambassador in white near the middle-right of the image.
those cars could be repaired with a simple toolkit. there was no troon iPad dash or backup cameras in them. no throttle by wire bullshit either.
also back then women dressed with class and didn't wear yoga pants
So simple to repair that they were routinely discarded and crushed well before they sniffed 70k miles kek.
stuff could be repaired but usually wasn't because the average person has always been an NPC and also wanted the latest. back then a car was a fashion piece designed to impress, the mentality was a lot different than today.
I doubt that. Average brand new car cost was a bit over 50% of median income in 1950, so not exactly cheap enough to be disposable. However they were disposed of because they had some truly terrible quality issues right out the factory
For comparison, today's average new car price is around 55% of median income, but you're getting something with far better QC.
>Average brand new car cost was a bit over 50% of median income in 1950, so not exactly cheap enough to be disposable. However they were disposed of because they had some truly terrible quality issues right out the factory
as far as i know early '50s cars didn't have major Q/C issues but the late '50s was a different story and many of those cars were an absolute abortion that crumbled apart in like 3 years of purchase. people at the time compared them unfavorably to pre-1955 cars.
there are even a few cars from the first half of the '30s visible. there weren't too many left at that point, they were old and a large number of pre-1935 cars were ground up in scrap metal drives in WWII. it was also getting increasingly hard to find tires for them, not until repro tires for classic car collectors started to become available in later times.
found a pair of postwar oldsmobiles lurking in the back, can't tell if they're 49/50s and 76s or 88s from the photo though
Ford and GM manufacture cars in Mexico and China so why should I be loyal?
if you buy american cars you support blacks to some degree. theres no black people in japan though.
My 2016 Civic was built in Indiana. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc manufacture many (but not all) of their cars and trucks in Mexico
Turns out they were right, we were wrong. I still won't apologize for winning but I will buy one of their sports cars.
I don't support communist unions. Plus the vehicles they put together are dog shit.
>A few decades ago they were shooting and killing our soldiers overseas
A horrible mistake both allies and axis have realized far too late, but a mistake much of the world has realized as well.
>implying
the nukes were justified.
I wasn't talking about the Japanese or the place of nuclear weapons have in warfare.
is the OP a time traveler from 1976?
>A few decades ago they were shooting and killing our soldiers overseas
who cares about that. a few decades ago, 6 MILLION israeliteS DIED. now give me money to make me feel better
the same people shooting at our soldiers were the same people shooting at those israelites. As for reparations, ask the Germans to pay you back.
oy vey. highly anti semitic remarks. time to demand the us govt to give more reparations.
the US govt should demand reparations from Germans too in that case.
can confirm. Google search 13" tires and most references to them mention trailers or wheelbarrows rather than cars.
Boomers somehow destroyed America and killed the patriotic spirit in their children, and blame it on them while they tank the economy.
I’ll stick with American shit when it stops being an absolute disgrace and overpriced slop thats mostly foreign made anyways. That said I like Ruger. Either way foreign companies unironically produce more here than many American companies. Volkswagen produces various models right in Tennessee for example, and the Japanese brands need no explanation, especially the likes of Toyota. If you were a true patriot you wouldn’t stand for garbage produced for cheap sold back to the people at grossly upmarked prices. Then again you can hardly call America an actual country nowadays.