Not sure if Americans pay a garbage tax
Or Euros, Canadians, Indians etc
U.K. does in council tax
I was wondering if each household was provided a can crusher how much this would save per year
How often is your recycling bin collected?
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I guess when we see slums they don’t have a proper tax structure or something to facilitate waste disposal?
Is that the case?
Americans are plenty capable of crushing cans just by stepping on them, that's for sure.
Do you guys have a recycling collection or do you need to take it to a facility?
They collect recycling every week, same as regular trash. You're supposed to put everything in the same specially marked bin. No idea what they do with it after, they probably just pick out the aluminium and trash the rest.
Note that trash collection is different everywhere you go, if you live in the boondocks usually you have to pay some trash hauler. If you're in the city it's either paid by city taxes or they have a separate bill which is essentially a tax.
Is that paid as a waste disposal tax?
Could you give me an annual ballpark price on that?
I'm in the suburbs (Upstate NY) and I have to pay a private company for trash and recycling pick up. It's around $40 every 3 months. The city I'm closest to has theirs included in their property tax. Not sure what percentage goes to waste pickup, but I know they pay double in property tax compared to the suburbs.
Thank you. That is a lot of help.
I think sanitation is more important than war budgets. It’s the cornerstone of civilisation development.
Hey even from a point of view in big investment depending on war, you could run a sanitation racket, I guess.
I guess that has happened before
In my suburb, they just have a series of dumpsters lined up at the community center and a garbage truck comes to collect it. Other suburbs around the city pick it up at your curb. I don't have to pay anything to drop recycling off at the dumpsters.
So I would imagine most people take their car to do that and there is a general ethos in the suburb to recycle?
Wealthier suburbs in U.K. have personal glass, paper, plastic and food waste bins
Poorer places just have paper and plastic, you have to take glass to a unit like you described, generally within walking distance and food disposal is just put in general waste.
i‘ve got bins for plastic, food, paper, and household waste, this is only for our house. glass bins (white, green, and brown glass) is across the street and accessible by the close neighbourhood. a container for clothes is also across the street and is meant for reuse (i still dump unwearable shit there anyway because fuck them). plastic disposal is free of charge, paper and food reduced fee, and household waste regular price
batteries are to be disposed at supermarkets or at recycling sites
if i want to dispose of furniture or electric stuff i can either call them to pick the shit up (it would cost me around 50€ for a 10 m3 and several servicemen picking it up themselves) or i could also bring it myself to the recycling sites (which i don’t do because i’m alone)
holy fuck, my english… it’s time for me to go to bed
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What the fuck are you talking about? The UK has a single bin for recycling and a bin for general waste, and a third for garden waste
They used to do separate shit (glass, metal, paper, plastic) back when the concept of recycling hit the western world but that was like 15 years ago
Now it's just mixed and sent straight to China, they don't even ask you to clean out the containers anymore
Stirling.
https://www.stirling.gov.uk/bins-and-recycling/what-goes-into-your-kerbside-bins/
It’s a big problem. I can’t imagine how much personal mismanagement and lack of incentive is costing.
Some people who don’t recycle probably aren’t paying the tax to do so anyway due to income.
If there was a privatised incentive, it could really clear up the streets and lead to much better personal responsibility of waste management
In my current town garbage pickup is privatized and we bring the recycling to a center.
$4/bag <35 lbs picked up every Friday morning. Paid for via sticker purchased at local gas stations.
You get paid or you have to pay?
I pay $4/sticker to get 1 bag removed.
I think 4 bucks is nominal to you but don’t you think it could be profitable to students, homeless etc
I guess you don’t have many homeless in your town? That’s good but I mean - money is relative
Sometimes you walk down the street and people just stuff cans (aluminium) into hedges.
If you were getting ten cent return on those cans, I’ll bet there wouldn’t be any in hedges.
Especially if each town had a recycling unit at the local supermarket.
lol, try following the 'recycling' truck, it goes to the same place as the trash truck
Do you know the term ‘scrapies’
That’s what we call here people who take metals to the scrappy and he pays you for weight but most people don’t ever engage with scrapie’s. It’s the equivalent of selling copper wires.
You don’t think they get profit from aluminium?
Paper breaks down but the colourful prints aren’t too good for the ground
every 2 weeks, beijing own our rubbish collection
How much profit do they make from your beer cans versus the cost of waste disposal?
Personally I have no idea yet but I am very interested to find out.
i dont know how much they make from the cans etc. but we pay our local council rates on our property for services, and they have sub contracted it out to a private company. we also have 3 bins, general refuse, recycbles and garden waste
So say you drink ten beers a week with a $1 tax on it and a local unit which is walkable and automated to return it, is that reasonable to you?
Say you got local students in a committee who did 200 houses a week.
Would you like that? Or is it a nuisance?
any extra tax is a nuisance to me. put the recycle levy upon the producer, not the consumer.
Alright so this argument currently playing out with regards to glass.
The proposition by businesses is-
“It will put us out of business”
“Not a tenable solution”
Do you think they are bullshitting for greed or it is a genuine concern?
Hypothetically
If a ten cent tax was introduced to each can, which is redeemable to its collection at the appropriate unit.
Would you guys find that unfair or worth it?
Wtf is a recycling bin?
Green bin paid for by council tax collected on days separate to general waste disposal
Problems with it- locals not respecting its purpose leading to “contamination” which increases cost to the tax budget
Lack of incentive in deprived areas leading to more of the same
Proportion of poorer areas not able to afford said tax to begin with
I live in Ohio and we just throw everything in the garbage
Is that because you feel demoralised regarding politics, earth in general?
Too tired from work? Don’t have time?
some states you can't get your deposit back if the can is crushed
I had absolutely no idea that was an issue. Can you elaborate?
How much do they they pay?
Some states charge money for cans/bottles (5-10 cents I think) and you get refunded if you turn them back in. My state doesn't do that, but what I was talking about here
is selling the aluminum to a recycler where they pay a rate that varies on current value. I see some local places are at about 50 cents per pound.
Do you see that as an incentive to decrease littering?
littering in the united states has been fixed as far as it can be fixed
most white people throw their garbage into a receptacle and that's about as good as it's gonna get
Even if university committees could turn profit on their collection?
Or the destitute could? If facilities were as accessible as a vending machine?
What about used batteries? Where do you dispose of them?
tweakers already scoop up all the cans around here, so that part of the program is working
I toss batteries into the standard trash, no way I'm going to hang on to them until there's enough to drive to the dump. It would take a year to gather accumulate enough to make it worth it and I've already got too much crap around here
in france, there's drop off places for those pretty much everywhere like any random supermarket will have something where you can drop a used battery.
i just put them in my car when they're used and then whenever im driving somewhere, i just take that opportunity to dump
that's france for you
here it's hard enough to keep people from eating the things let alone dispose of them properly, plus we like toxic waste in our water table
My local hospital used to have a battery recycling bin but they took it away saying the recycling process is inefficient enough to make throwing them away the better option.
I didn't know the issue was recycling, I thought the problem was that the things are hazardous in bulk when they start to decay
You don’t have recycling bins at your supermarket for batteries?
If they can use depleted uranium for war surely ‘depleted’ lithium can be made very valuable?
(Reconfiguration or minutiae return)
maybe I'll have to investigate I really dont feel okay about it to be honest
What about if you had a little tub under your sink and you left it outside once a month and a private individual paid you a percentage for it in the crypto of your choice in the form of lifetime isa you can put in the name of any individual of your choosing?
there's no room under my sink
if a private company wants to pay me for my garbage, I might go for it, just make the $/effort ratio right
Is at the supermarket better?
no, too much effort
honestly all these questions boil down to money v effort. You need to do some market research to get good answers on that.
if you want to set up a system where people give you recyclables and you pay them for it, it's just a matter of making it easy to do or pay out a bunch of money or some combo of that
Would you say via supermarket collection points or front door collection?
Would you be willing to do either of these with an incentive?
Is crypto investment or cash better incentive to you? If neither, then what would be useful?
give me a box where I can put all my recyclables and pick it up once a week, then pay me on some kind of debit card account. US dollar is fine, I would use a crypto option too, but I'm sure I'm in the minority on that.
and the crypto would have to be escrowed, not literal crypto into a btc address, for instance. I know how to set up a bitcoin node, but I don't because it's a pain. Most people don't even know how to set up a node.
I think it is more of a pro recycling measure than anti littering, but it does provide some incentive to pick up cans for kids that want money. The aluminum is worth something so it makes sense the recycler pays for it. There are not many centers and you wouldn't walk to one anyway given that you have to bring in quite a few to get a decent payout.
What about if you had an account and card for each return which paid in crypto currency? Which could beat inflation with enough patience and also a tax break for ‘green’ accounts?
I think you are overthinking the process of selling aluminum to a trash man
I’m taking into account the process of automation in the process and fraud detection. As other anon highlighted this issue.
it would probably not be best to build your concept on top of the deposit/return concept, rather better to replace deposit/return with whatever you have in mind
You mean a crypto wallet for this specific incentive with a choice of investment whether bitcoin, Miota, Hedera, Polygon - whatever is trusted to work seamlessly with a CBDC?
Is that something you dislike because of CBDC element?
depends on the state
here in beautiful oregon you pay a deposit of 10 cents on each can and bottle
to get your deposit back you dump your stuff into a machine and the machine only pays for intact and uncrushed units
Could you explain to me why they must be uncrushed when surely they must be crushed during the later process?
it's just because of the way the machine works. it doesnt recognize crushed cans as cans. I don't know if it's because of the bar code or some mechanical aspect of the machine, but the thing just doesnt recognize crushed cans
I also expect that there may be some kind of fraud prevention reason for this as well, like you could bring in cans that had no deposit on them or something
Surely their could be a spectroscopy device in the machine to analyse weight and material?
well, like I said, there's probably a fraud-prevention angle to it too. Ten cents adds up quick if you're sneaking in stuff you never paid a deposit on.
Aluminum cans are worth money if you bring them in to a center. Can make a couple hundred bucks that way. Otherwise if you can't be bothered they just go in the weekly recycling bin. I live rural so don't have one.
Couple hundred bucks could be a weeks/2 weeks groceries, would you agree with that?
Taking off fuel (distance) and available time.
Is the place walkable?
for the record I throw all my bottles in cans into the regular trash can because fuck recycling
france here
where I live (rural), we have weekly collection for the grey bin (that unrecyclables) (which is stupid, it's the one that fills up less)
bi-weekly for the yellow bin (recyclables, it's almost full after 2weeks)
monthly for the green bin (thats glass)
for everything else, you have to go to a recycling centre yourself (I think you can have them come and collect shit for you, but you have to pay... or you can always ask the neighbour when he goes there)
I used to recycle religiously but I am losing faith in it.
I suspect that half of it goes to a landfill.
from what I've hear, most of our plastic and cardboard gets sold to chinese recycling companies, who then throw a huge portion of it away, much of it in more damaging ways than if it had all just stayed here
also, if what I've heard is true, chinese companies have become much pickier about what they buy in recent years so the stuff is just piling up somewhere
the main issue is that recycling is never pure, it has to be separated somehow, usually by hand
Biweekly
Recycling bins are made of fucking plastic lmao
So are TV dinners
I live in some shitty council estate so we just have huge bins that everyone dumps their shit into. There are 5 big bins for general waste and 1 big green bin for recycling. The green bin stays empty until the last day before collection, when the other bins are overflowing. Then it rapidly fills up with black bin bags that people can't fit in the other bins.
I think the council realise this. I've seen them empty the green bin into the same truck that the black bins go into.
I’m really sorry to hear that anon. You only have one recycling bin between how many residents?
Let’s say 15? Approximate please?
Dunno, maybe 40? 18 flats, at any rate. Some of these very small flats have entire families of 4 and their dog inside them.
You can’t be serious anon. You have one recycling bin? Please don’t take the piss.
I will contact your MPs on your behalf if you only have one recycling bin.
It's night right now but I'll take a photo of the bins tomorrow and if you repeat this thread in the future, and I just happen to see it, I'll post proof.
There's an old bedframe out there next to the bins, too. The council won't take that. It's not their job.
>There's an old bedframe out there next to the bins, too.
in this country you could get shot for that
I’ll phone the council for you
Obviously your privacy is important here
Do you have a housing management who take care of the building?
You know this is a health and safety issue, not to mention psychological problem?
Anon if you don’t want me to phone
Tomorrow you phone the council and say someone has done this, you don’t have a housing manager number or ability to phone around to find them and it has been going on for months and it is encouraging rats. It is not your responsibility to deal with the human right of sanitation management
Alternatively. I will call them for you.
There is a nest of rats taking up home in the bedding unit - you tell the council that
Then you email your councillor (I can get their email) and tell them
Do you know this website?
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/
“Given the situation with covid, I just thought a festering site in our vicinity would be important, we have all worked so hard to prevent any further lockdowns, I just want to be a responsible citizen”
out behind where I work there's a cardboard bin, and without fail someone comes by in the small hours of night and dumps all their wet dirty house garbage into it
recycling is one of those things that sounds like a good idea, but there are too many points of failure and in the end it wastes more resources than it saves
As you say, it only takes one person to contaminate the lot and then it's too much work trying to separate and clean everything.
In the US they take my recycling same day as trash pickup using a similar truck. They don't actually recycle it, it all goes to the same landfill. I just use the recyling bin as an extra trash bin
plastic waste is being collected here free of charge as it is being 100% recycled
where i live they come every second week to pick it up
Recycling actually costs more money than it makes from reusing it. At this point, it's just a status driven ego trip. Recycling is good, just remember we're paying for it.
What if there was a way to make it profitable for both parties? Would that encourage you?
I've never recycled in my entire life. And I never will. Everything in the same bag.
What if you were given reward which can potentially x10 over a 10 year period and lower your taxes on a personal level?
Honestly I'd start recycling if I got back a gauranteed $15 a week. Or 90 a month cash.
How does $25 a week sound?
I'd take it in an instant and be a happy recycler
How much do you pay in weekly tax?
I have absolutely no idea. Lmfao
lol
here if the caretaker catches you not filling the bins properly you’ll be warned and eventually even evicted if continue doing so
Did I mean guten abend? Lol
Your angels is est parfait
Anglais
Puts me to shame actually
Shit they go through it eh.
I'm in a condo so once it goes down the garbage shoot it's gone forever. I never put my personal mail or stuff for my address in the garbage. That's how I get away with it.
I'll literally save it and then put it in the coming area mail garbage separately. The irony eh. I will sort out my personal info to continue to not recycle. But not sort anything into 2 bins.
We have a deal anon
I reduce your outgoings by $25 and you will recycle
I want the $ in excess of my output.
>putting more effort into not recycling than recycling
Sir, I admire your principles.
I know eh. If I had to deal with organics I would find a way to put decoy stuff in the bags. Just so they see bags go out.
Meanwhile. My regular garbage will be filled with food, cans, glass, everything. The clinking jingle.
Try telling Mehmet or Abdul to put the trash in correct bag. hahahahahahah
Show your mosquito bite tits, Greta
Small dick energy
Recycling and trash twice a week; Monday and Thursday mornings. Yard waste once a week on Wednesday.
Once a week just like trash stupid. You didn't need to make a thread over a Google search.
Google is a liar
Leaf (in burgerstan rn). Recycling and garbage are collected on alternating weeks. Organics/compost collected weekly.
So where are you "supposed" to throw away stuff like pic/related,have an attic FILLED with dead PSP's,3ds batterys
There is a section in the basement of my condo for electronics. I find myself looking through it like a garage sale when I go down there. I only use it for the big boxes that have to be broken down and are still 4x4. So I do recycle cardboard sometimes
We’re going to have Lockheed Martin pay for it’s recovery.
At the right price. Given the incoming technology…. The highest bidder will win the disposal contract.
eBAY
In sweden they collect garbage from trash cans about twice a month I think. If it is anything larger like milk cartoons, bottles, plastic, aluminium cans, smaller batteries, we are to throw that in set out stations. We bring our junk there and throw it. Ideally have it sorted beforehand. We have even bigger junkyards where you can throw like beds, sofas, tvs, chemicals etc in which we get 3 free times per year (depending on municipality) all which you have to sort yourself. We are very diligent about doing this. However, with the increase of mudslimes (who cares for nothing in this world but killing things) just throws their trash everywhere. Their presence is like fucking trash, literally.
What do you think of this
But with added incentive
We have the same here except they are not color coded. There is a label which says very clearly what is going in there and what not to throw in there. The garbage cans we have at home consist of food junk and paper, plastic. Brown for food, green for paper/plastic. If you have gardening stuff, you can get bags which they will come and get.
This is all with for tax money by the way, so a "free" service
How many languages is the label in?
Swedish only where I live. Might be english in bigger cities and sadly, probably arabic as well
We used to have garbage, recycling and compost every week but its now every two weeks to save the planet bur we still pay the same taxes
Right.
You are part of the earth. It belongs to you as much as any other shareholder of the capitalists who profit.
That’s why you should be paid for recycling
I never recycle.
My relatives live in portugal. Was there once. It was pretty trashy in many places and smelled of sewage. A trend in many spanish countries too when going on holidays.
Because of filthy tourists like you cause too much rubbish production during summer
Scripted response, inauthentic
Me? It was clear they didn't really care about taking care of their waste
Its facts.
During summer all tourist regions suffer from too much trash.
Unless you think restaurants, hotels, supermarkets etc produce same trash with 2x or 3x the consumers?
Are you saying the hoteliers are incompetent?
Yes
Or that the tourists are barbarians?
I personally throw my car batteries into the ocean.
And your heart QI
I don't recycle.. unless you count me putting my dog's poop into the recycling section of the waste can
Divinity Avenue.
Interrogation AIs are not acceptable
Best method of recycling is to just throw it into the ocean.
every other week, it used to be weekly like trash but I guess they scaled back to match demand
Twice a week. Depends on postal code. Some regions are Monday Thursday. Others tsueday Friday etc
Cyprus should recycle more but Cypriots are uncultured animals given money by tourism. Turkey should invade us again and
It does help acidify the ocean which contributes to the development of marine life.
You want to save the ocean? Throw your car batteries into it.
Acid ocean means no oxygen in ocean you dumb nagger
It is perfectly legal to throw your car batteries into the ocean.
And its percectly legal for naggers to kill whitoidz
I don't know why you are so angry. I'm the one saving the planet(by throwing my car batteries into the ocean)
These memes have no humor and are a poor attempt at warfare.
You must hate marine life.
Weekly, same as garbage.
There is a fee. You don't have to pay it, you can take your stuff to the dump or recycling center for free. That's how it's been everywhere I've lived in the US, but I'm sure it varies.
lol. imagine not just chucking your rubbish onto the ground or into a creek like a real man. are you a homosexual?
What about the energy of you?
Pretend jokes give you negative life energy
roughly $100 for 3 months of garbage and recycle disposal but recyclables only collected every other week
Purdy good.