I didn't say anything about grief. But incompetence and unwillingness for the task.
It's entirely fanfic lol. Apparently this huge amount of slaves left zero evidence in Egypt.
He stuttered?? Whoa, no way. I guess it's all true then, praise be to Allah.
>He stuttered?? Whoa, no way. I guess it's all true then, praise be to Allah.
Do what you want. You act like I'm twisting your arm or something. I really don't get all these dramatics around here.
Literally all of it, even the bit were they larp as bronze age collapse invaders. In reality they were on the receiving end of sea peoples' rape spree.
Around 50% at least.
But I do believe the part where the hebrews rise to power and serve the Pharaoh and eventually are subjugated is a genuine ancient memory of the Hyksos or some other Semitic community that became marginalized over time.
And I do believe in some time of hardship the Semites migrated back to Canaan Moses might genuinely be a distant memory of a far-off giga patriarch, But beyond that, all else is embellishment and later additions.
The 10 plagues probably did happen too, it's just that god didn't send it. It was probably a misremembering of a very bad set of years that severely weakened Egypt.
Best take. Exodus has very lucid connections to Hyksos control of Egypt, their eventual loss of power, and the resulting expulsion / migration to other lands.
Why would it be embellished in this particular way skipping monumental events such as the Hyksos founding an entire dynasty that reigned 100 years and Ahmose I's campaign in Canaan which would overrun any Hyksos exodite? Their downfall also took place 600 years before the Kingdom of Israel and 300 years before the bronze age collapse.
Other semitic tribes like the Habiru, Šhasu and Israelites were chronologically (and etymologically) closer to early Hebrews, israelites and Israelites, recorded as inhabiting the deserts around southern Canaan before and during the bronze age collapse. The Sinai is one of the driest deserts in the world but they were certainly able to cross it to raid Egypt, as the Hyksos had done centuries before, certainly a possibility during the BAC. When Egypt regained its strength they would have ended up subject and no doubt considered returning across the Sinai and the BAC still in full swing with the Canaanites weakened by sea peoples like the Philistines, a conquest would also be feasible. It is elementary strategy.
The origins of the israelite may not have been as illustrious as the Hyksos fiction, but in my view this does not detract from the story.
I like the theory that Akhenaten actually started Hebrew monotheism, and that other figures you find in the Bible are actually inspired by Egyptian deities. Here's one video that puts forth several of such theories:
The biblical Moses stuttered, made mistakes, and didn't want the job. He wasn't painted as some great hero. It's pretty rare for ancient text.
Wrong
>Sanjay said: Seeing Arjun overwhelmed with pity, his mind grief-stricken, and his eyes full of tears, Shree Krishna spoke the following words.
I didn't say anything about grief. But incompetence and unwillingness for the task.
>He stuttered?? Whoa, no way. I guess it's all true then, praise be to Allah.
Do what you want. You act like I'm twisting your arm or something. I really don't get all these dramatics around here.
It's entirely fanfic lol. Apparently this huge amount of slaves left zero evidence in Egypt.
He stuttered?? Whoa, no way. I guess it's all true then, praise be to Allah.
>left zero evidence in Egypt
habirus are documented
its ilogical to think they were never slaves when they were right next to it
Literally all of it, even the bit were they larp as bronze age collapse invaders. In reality they were on the receiving end of sea peoples' rape spree.
>receiving end of sea peoples' rape spree
so then they descend from them too
None of it. It all actually happened.
Around 50% at least.
But I do believe the part where the hebrews rise to power and serve the Pharaoh and eventually are subjugated is a genuine ancient memory of the Hyksos or some other Semitic community that became marginalized over time.
And I do believe in some time of hardship the Semites migrated back to Canaan Moses might genuinely be a distant memory of a far-off giga patriarch, But beyond that, all else is embellishment and later additions.
The 10 plagues probably did happen too, it's just that god didn't send it. It was probably a misremembering of a very bad set of years that severely weakened Egypt.
>le centralist face of every story is half true and half false...BECAUSE OK!?
>YOU CAN'T HAVE COMMON SENSE BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T OK?
Best take. Exodus has very lucid connections to Hyksos control of Egypt, their eventual loss of power, and the resulting expulsion / migration to other lands.
Why would it be embellished in this particular way skipping monumental events such as the Hyksos founding an entire dynasty that reigned 100 years and Ahmose I's campaign in Canaan which would overrun any Hyksos exodite? Their downfall also took place 600 years before the Kingdom of Israel and 300 years before the bronze age collapse.
Other semitic tribes like the Habiru, Šhasu and Israelites were chronologically (and etymologically) closer to early Hebrews, israelites and Israelites, recorded as inhabiting the deserts around southern Canaan before and during the bronze age collapse. The Sinai is one of the driest deserts in the world but they were certainly able to cross it to raid Egypt, as the Hyksos had done centuries before, certainly a possibility during the BAC. When Egypt regained its strength they would have ended up subject and no doubt considered returning across the Sinai and the BAC still in full swing with the Canaanites weakened by sea peoples like the Philistines, a conquest would also be feasible. It is elementary strategy.
The origins of the israelite may not have been as illustrious as the Hyksos fiction, but in my view this does not detract from the story.
That's why I added the throwaway of "some other Semitic groups"
Hyksos were just the first people that came into my head.
Everything is 100% accurate.
I think the part where Egyptian children are murdered en masse is real, but I don't think it was done by a supernatural force
I like the theory that Akhenaten actually started Hebrew monotheism, and that other figures you find in the Bible are actually inspired by Egyptian deities. Here's one video that puts forth several of such theories: