How does the higgs boson give particles their mass?
How does the higgs boson give particles their mass?
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Through the higgs field
What is the higgs field?
Heard of wikipedia?
It's where the higgs boson lives
It's a scalar-valued quantum field.
So is it a "field" like a field in algebra or is it a real thing?
A quantum field is a thing which fills all of space and which can take on quantized energies. To say a field is scalar valued means it's like a temperature field, where at each point there's just a number, as opposed to a vector or tensor field.
Interesting, I wonder what the point of particle physics is. I mean it's cool to know about things but how do you go about exploiting these other quantum fields in the same way we exploit the electro magnetic field.
The point is to understand the universe.
Okay but what can we do with "understanding the universe".
What good is a newborn baby?
Then you can create your own universe, and eventually become a god
Same energy as pic related.
Because we can and we are curious.
the point of it is to take billion and billions of euros and hand them over annually to a bunch of israeli "science priests" while the natives in europe are left to starve and freeze without any resources of their own.
They deserve it (freezing and starving, the israelites deserve the money, god is just)
The point is to predict particle interactions such as scattering and creation or destruction of particles in interactions as well as calculations of lifetimes. I found the field very suspicious the first time i studied QED, didnt fully agree with some assumptions but i might give it another read
Quantum field theory is a theory that uses mathematical objects called fields (not to be confused with fields from algebra) to model the phenomena scientists observe in particle physics. They are a handy way to make sense of the data. Fields are simply a useful tool that help physicists understand mathematically what is happening.
Quantum fields do not necessarily exist in reality. Physics doesn't have the tools to explain what the actual fabric of reality is. You have to go deeper.
read a qft textbook
no other way to understand
Wait so higgs boson in graviton?
higgs: spin=0, mass=125GeV
graviton: spin=2, mass=0
Higgs field interacting with a hidden field
>those arrows
what other technologies did the germans let go to waste?
W and Z bosons interact with the Higgs field. This results in their having mass. Explaining it in more detail requires math.
As a "higgs" "particle" it simply uses the "higgs" "mechanism" on the "higgs" "field"
Is it a massive kludge or is it a real thing?
Both
No one has seen a hig particle, so it cannot "give" anything to other things
The Weinstein-Weinstein Shiggy-Higgy conjecture tells us that mass arises from complex non-abelian interactions between non-abellian fields under non de sitter space normal form unified geometries. Assuming a Post-Wheelerian, DeWitt-Simons isomorphic Lagranian of course.
Heh... Was expecting a reply from a Penrose-Bohr conjunctivist.
It doesnt. They just assume it after foubdibg some possibly matching spin0 non fundamental particle.
First of all the statement "the higgs boson gives particles their mass" has been taken out of context by science popularizers and poorly trained particle physicists. Even if the laws of physics were such that there were no higgs field or weak force, protons and neutrons (being composed of confined quarks) would still have mass.
Also even within the context of the electroweak model, even if the Higgs field did not condense (which is usually taken to be what generates a massive spectrum) there would be a spectrum of massive particles with all the same spins and quantum numbers due to the confinement mechanism.
Probably you didn't understand what I just said, but just trust me, the Higgs is not as big of a deal as it is made out to be (no more big a deal than other parts of the model).
That sounds different to what it says on the cern website
>It is believed that all fundamental particles in the known Universe that have mass — for example electrons, or the quarks that live inside protons and neutrons — acquire this mass as a result of interacting with an omnipresent field through Higgs bosons
>Without this influence, our Universe would have a completely different structure
>Without the Higgs field, quarks would have no mass and consequently the proton would be heavier than the neutron, since all their mass would come from their respective binding energies
https://cms.cern/news/why-would-i-care-about-higgs-boson
Mind posting a link to a non satanic website?
The quark fields acquire mass through the Higgs mechanism, but the proton and neutron would be massive even if the quarks were massless. The last line you quoted confirms this.
As far as my second point, it is true that even if there were no Higgs mechanism (but still a Higgs field) there would still effectively be a massive quark due to confinement. There is a good chance most of the experimental physicists and phenomenologists working at CERN don't understand this, since it is not well known outside the community of theorists working on non-perturbative gauge theories.
I guess the ideas is that most of the mass of protons and neutrons comes from E=mc^2 rather than the Higgs field. Would protons and neutrons even be able to form if the constituent particles were massless?
>open thread
>ctrl-F “Yukawa coupling”
>0 results
this confirms that elementary particle physics threads here suck. all the posters who know anything about the topic stick to string theory threads or at least more advanced particle physics threads
>string theory threads or at least more advanced particle physics threads
Both of which don't exist on LULZ
sometimes they do. there were a few a couple weeks ago. maybe even last week.
you have to remember that despite a few ring leaders of young physicists in high-energy physics who appear to be well-adjusted and attractive (say maybe Dan Harlow) the majority of HEP people 20-40 are pretty much poorly-adjusted dorks. or plain autistic (ahem Douglas Stanford). so they’re lurking all over, and not just doing woke shit on twitter. if you look through the archives you will find a few really advanced HEP-th posters; it happens. but because academia has a code of political correctness it takes a really especially good niche post to get them to make one of the few breaches of OpSec they can possibly risk in the face of doxxing
I use LULZ very regularly and I can say with certainty that there are very very few threads of the type you're talking about.
yes, there are very few, but i use LULZ regularly too and even though they are very few they still crop up occasionally.
and this thread is the kind of shit that proves that the posters in the occasional threads purposely ignore threads like these because they are just… low-class