anyways no gods. maybe some ancient kings have been honored and someone turned them to gods. also what i mean with "king" is obviously leader. and the leader sees itself as equal to others. that is major point too.
Cope much? oh I dunno... Old man with a stick, very wise, goes through terrible hardship for 9 days in a high place where the veil is thin, to deliver something very important to people which has to do with writing... who did I just describe, odin or moses?
one got up the mountain and in 9 days brought the Commandments to the tribe of Israel (which is remade into Isragard / Asgard in Norse fanfics) the other hung on a world tree to deliver runes to people. Hmmmm...
yeah good golem, keep spreading your lies, it do not affect on me nor the truth. keep seething
1 week ago
Anonymous
name 5 distinct differences between Thor and YHWH from the Bible. I'll be a good golem and name 5 similarities proving religious plagiarism. Both storm deities that slowly became main gods of their pantheons. Both have a symbol based on their weapon (hammer and trident). Both beat up their dad. Both sent down thunder. Both beaten the Wyrm and the Serpent of Sea.
1 week ago
Anonymous
how hard is it understand? i say it one more time; pagans do not have any gods, so stop talking about them
1 week ago
Anonymous
who's thor then? Why do we call Thursday thursday?
1 week ago
Anonymous
you call it thursday you dumb fuck. world is not about america
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah but who is this Thur the thursday is named after in around 20 languages including but not limited to English? was he not a god? why would the wise Pagans of the frigid North name a day after something they didn't believe in?
1 week ago
Anonymous
so you are just a child, imagine my shock
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah goo goo gaa gaa I'm a child, how about you answer the child's question instead of being the child's byatch?
Why is Thursday called Thursday if there wasn't a god named Thor/Thur?
1 week ago
Anonymous
ask your overlords who you worship so much, like you said; history is written by winners
1 week ago
Anonymous
Hmmmm so no answer then? How does it feel to be outsmarted by a baby? I must be a baby genius. Why do they call Friday Friggsday if there was no Frigg in pagan culture of the Germanic peoples? Did the israelites invent those and infiltrated the tribes and went like hey let's name the days of the week with these specific names of the gods we never had, because....
Because why? Profit?
1 week ago
Anonymous
and how did you outsmart me? not understanding what i'm telling you is not pretty out smarting if you ask me
1 week ago
Anonymous
also here is your answer; you fell for lies, get over it
1 week ago
Anonymous
Hey fucktard, still waiting for your response to my post here:
You fucking retard
The story of the Bible hasn't existed for 6000 years.
The new testament was codified in the 300s AD (roughly 1700 years ago)
The old testament is probably from around 1500-1000 BC, which is no more than 3500 years ago.
You are fucking stupid, and a young earth creationist at that. Unreal.
Come on big boy, I want you to admit you're a fundamentalist Christian who thinks the world is 6000 years old. Let's go, you coward.
1 week ago
Anonymous
The fuck? Why would the world be 6000 years old? You just skipped the dinosaurs and who knows how long this place was a molten lava rock in space and shit? How gay is that? The Earth is billions of years old. But we had the Bible for the last 6000+ of those.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You've succeeded in confusing the shit out of me because we're talking about two different things. The Bible has not existed for 6000 years. Stay mad.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Okay, yes or no question time.
Did dinosaurs exist? Or did the israelites invent those as well?
Yes or no?
Is the Bible at least 6000 years old? Yes or no?
If the Bible isn't 6000 years old, why is the carbon dating proving it is? Yes or no?
Is carbon dating also an ayyyo globohomo elite invention made to screw with you personally? Yes or no?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Let me reiterate that you are both an idiot and wrong. I fucking Google it like you said.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Oh shit my mistake sorry man
1 week ago
Anonymous
what a fucking moron, now fuck off with your lies
1 week ago
Anonymous
I made a small mistake that had notand I am sorry. Odin is still Moses tho nigguh.
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah but both are fairy tails and either of them existed in any form in pagan life. if you say otherwise then congratulations, you are stupid
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm not arguing that. But one is still older than the other... Silly to argue that's not the case.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Kek, this did you in. You're an absolute retard. I think the only thing you can do now is kill yourself. Try to regain any honour you once had.
1 week ago
Anonymous
LOL there is no dishonor in admitting I was slightly wrong on a specific number that had nothing to do with the discussion anyway. I am proud to announce my ignorance, for to make mistakes is the only way to learn.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Listen billy, we let you play with the normal kids but you need to go back to the special ed class now. We have them dino nuggies ready for you.
1 week ago
Anonymous
you are also ignorant if you claim that pagans have gods. think about it
1 week ago
Anonymous
He's defeated anon. Let him writhe in the agony he's caused himself.
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah seems like. well i need to go anyways, it just past 1am. have a good one
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah! You too man! Cheers!
1 week ago
Anonymous
Why are you still argueing? I've been reading this thread and they absolutely btfo'd you? I mean, I get why you wouldn't want to concede defeat but sheesh man.
yeah seems like. well i need to go anyways, it just past 1am. have a good one
Stop talking to yourself. Take them meds now ya hear? You best take them meds bwah.
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah i figured out, well maybe people can see how much pagan threads gets trashed, must be the way
1 week ago
Anonymous
Only the first is me retard.
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah i figured out, well maybe people can see how much pagan threads gets trashed, must be the way
Samefags
1 week ago
Anonymous
LOL stop projecting your own faults onto others.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Calling me a samefag is about the worst cop out I have seen this debate.
1 week ago
Anonymous
No, calling ME a samefag is about the worst cop out I have seen this debate. There are six posters and 5 distinct posting styles in this thread. One of us is at LEAST 2 people. One of us had to stoop to samefagging. All because you won't admit Odin is Moses which is a solid fact I will stand by forever and ever.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm am certainly not samefagging so I would assume it was the other guy who argued that pagans don't have gods or something like that. Either way, still deflecting bullshit points.
To be fair, it won't fuck with my beliefs since I thought of the whole "Moses is Odin" theory on the fly for this thread in order to keep it on page 1 for almost an hour. Weird that nobody spotted that from the start, since I wrote that it took 9 days for Moses to make the Commandments, while in the source material it says (Exodus 24:18) that Moses stayed on Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 nights and not one person caught this, showing their true level of expertise. Real talk though, yeah, the lack of records really puts the whole Old Testament to question. I think I even heard somewhere that they didn't even have a israelite-exclusive cast of slaves, despite the Bible stating otherwise? Kinda hokey. I wonder how apologists explain that factoid.
Ong no cap frfr, reddit neckbeard moment.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Wait, if you're not the guy who was saying pagans don't have gods, who the fuck are you then?
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm the first guy on the list that you accused of samefagging.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Respectfully anon, accusing me of insulting you after only speaking to you twice this thread is disrespectful. I am certainly not a same fag and can prove it. These are my only comments.
Why are you still argueing? I've been reading this thread and they absolutely btfo'd you? I mean, I get why you wouldn't want to concede defeat but sheesh man.
I think it is applaudable that you can admit you were wrong on that but they were also right on the debate on Moses. The exodus never happened as far as we are aware. When Israel took the Sinai peninsula during the 6 day war they excavated and found no evidence. Furthermore, the egyptians wrote everything down and would have recorded that should it have happened. I'm not trying to knock what you believe but i'm at least trying to ask that you have a more open mind on this specific topic.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Well I mistook you for the other guy, the age of the Bible guy. Happens to everyone! I take my accusations back.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Thats good.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You still didn't explain what that even means though, pal. Let's try another approach here, okay champ? Why is there a modern-day belief that they did in fact have gods? Can you enlighten me?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Why is there a modern-day belief that they did in fact have gods?
because winners say so. they want to push agenda. got it?
also what i mean that pagans do not have any gods=pagans do not worship any gods. all this odin thor crap is just a agenda. christian agenda
1 week ago
Anonymous
>history is written by winners
why wouldn't they lie about their enemies? gullible much?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>why would the wise Pagans of the frigid North name a day after something they didn't believe in?
Why do you believe in lies?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Glolem describes to you perfectly
1 week ago
Anonymous
See you got them gay numbers 555 meaning you're wrong about me 😉
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Religious plagiarism
Stop posting cringe
Universal truth is universal. Your desert loving israelites didn't think of it first.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Name 5 distinct differences between Saturn and YHWH. I'll wait.
Says every souce in scholarly works. Even the egyptians never wrote anything on it. Know why? Because the Exodus never happened. Cope much?
1 week ago
Anonymous
yeah as if the stinky egyptians would confess they were duped and punished by Moses via that stuff with the snakes and the baby killing and such.
History is written by winners (The Torah), while losers seeth and pretend nothing happened.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Lmao, the seethe from the Bible worshipping homosexual.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Pfft I don't even like the Bible what made u think I'm a bible-lover? In this case it's just obviously the inspiration for the Norse tradition. I don't like reading Moby Dick, but if someone writes a book called Mody Bick and says it's a 200 year old novel, I'll call them out on their bullshit. Relax. calm ur titteis chica comprende?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Deflection and seethe. Typical of when a Bible thumper loses an arguement. If you weren't then you wouldn't be shilling Moses so hard. I kind of pity you actually. Being so woefully unaware of the words you say.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I side with the truth you see. If we start an argument of is the Myth of Gilgamesh the source for the myth of Noah's Ark, I shall shill for Gilgamesh and call the Biblical story of Noah a latter plagiarism of the older Mesopotamian tale. Sounds like a bible thumper to you? Stop making a fool out of yourself son
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Sounds like a bible thumper to you?
pretty much yes. gullible much?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Still deflecting. I admire your stupidity. It's almost a superpower. Like a retard with super strength you know?
What's with all the ad-hominem attacks lad? I'm giving you straight facts. How about you argue with your own facts and counter-points? Oh u don't have none niggaaaa cuz God and Science are on my side aaaahhhh how does it feel nigguh??? Did u cry yet? Cry nigguh, cry! Cum your pants for Papa! Virus 50.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Still deflecting. I admire your stupidity. It's almost a superpower. Like a retard with super strength you know?
well yeah, these are stories.
just human stories.
one human story is 6000 years old (Bible) the other is around 90 years old (Norse paganism imagined from scratch with zero evidence by nazis in 1930's)
Am i truly evil if I suggest one of these human stories inspired the other one was based on the other? The Hitler party just wanted their own Judaism to keep their silly people stronk for ze war
>6000 years old >4000 BC
There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that Judaism is even THAT old, let alone that the old testament was solidified BEFORE THE PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT WERE BUILT. If you're not a young earth creationist then your history is piss-poor. If you are a YEC then just stop reading my post s I don't care about the discussion anymore because you're stupid and ignorant.
If you just fucked up your dates:
The sagas go back into the 400s-500s AD as compiled by Snorri Sturleson in the 1200s AD. Most scholars now acknowledge that the Norse (and Hellenic for that matter) pantheons evolved out of Proto-Indo-Europran religion, which is likely where the Cannanites got their gods from as well, who became Yahweh and all that.
No idea why you brought nazi horseshit into this, as if you've got to be a bootlicking fascist to see how foul the israelite's God is.
Hint: their God isn't foul because they're israelites, he's foul because he is evil. Re-read your Bible, read about israeli history. Go ahead. I'm not even an anti-semite. I just read history.
1 week ago
Anonymous
4000 BC is 6000 years old, dummi.
AD is 2023 years old, + 4000 = 6000~
Is this the math they teach you in gay pagan school? migguh u broke urself.. le cringe
1 week ago
Anonymous
You fucking retard
The story of the Bible hasn't existed for 6000 years.
The new testament was codified in the 300s AD (roughly 1700 years ago)
The old testament is probably from around 1500-1000 BC, which is no more than 3500 years ago.
You are fucking stupid, and a young earth creationist at that. Unreal.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah but it's around 6000 years old though, google it. Oh wait google was made by israelites huh? But that antisemitic young earth creationist lecture you visited in a circus tent while drunk wasn't. Meaning only it is correct.
Gotcha.
1 week ago
Anonymous
you know we have 12k old cottage in finland, 2x older than your filthy book
1 week ago
Anonymous
Cottage cheese maybe, you silly perkele. What does this have to do with anything? Finnish people aren't the same race as the Norse and never worshipped their pantheon.
Ok you're mentally ill, thanks for confirming that no one has to take you seriously >Google it! >well it makes sense to me bro!!!!
Just like every other drop-out genius
Yeah yeah the world is a lie and everyone's wrong except for mr. schizo over here... I heard that plenty of times. In a psych ward! Haha! Like I said pal, Virus 50.
1 week ago
Anonymous
norwegians and swedes were never vikings, this is that same shit; you believe everything you read
1 week ago
Anonymous
You are made of stupid! Even certain slavs were vikings. Was there a forcefield stopping certain people from becoming murderhobos and pillagers during years of poor harvest? Did the israelites invent this forcefield? Holy fuck, it's like talking to a quantum AI.
1 week ago
Anonymous
gullible much? like said; history is written by winners
1 week ago
Anonymous
Ok you're mentally ill, thanks for confirming that no one has to take you seriously >Google it! >well it makes sense to me bro!!!!
Just like every other drop-out genius
Yeah, I'd ask you to prove that but so far you've provided no evidence to support any of your points and slung insults at me and others. Childish behavior. Also i wouldn't want a child posting themselves here so do yourself a favor and just concede.
I have used rhetorical devices that might seem like insults, but are in fact arguments. Stop acting like I offended you. You said a lot of harsh words yourself. I'm not mad. Do me a courtesy and admit you are not mad as well. Behaviours we both displayed are part and parcel of arguing on an imageboard like LULZ. It would've been much stranger if I did not call you names in the process of the discussion that took place.
Why are you still argueing? I've been reading this thread and they absolutely btfo'd you? I mean, I get why you wouldn't want to concede defeat but sheesh man.
I absolutely fucked up on the current beliefs concerning the age of the Bible, however my actual points are yet to be disproven. I still stand tall, friend.
I think it is applaudable that you can admit you were wrong on that but they were also right on the debate on Moses. The exodus never happened as far as we are aware. When Israel took the Sinai peninsula during the 6 day war they excavated and found no evidence. Furthermore, the egyptians wrote everything down and would have recorded that should it have happened. I'm not trying to knock what you believe but i'm at least trying to ask that you have a more open mind on this specific topic.
1 week ago
Anonymous
To be fair, it won't fuck with my beliefs since I thought of the whole "Moses is Odin" theory on the fly for this thread in order to keep it on page 1 for almost an hour. Weird that nobody spotted that from the start, since I wrote that it took 9 days for Moses to make the Commandments, while in the source material it says (Exodus 24:18) that Moses stayed on Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 nights and not one person caught this, showing their true level of expertise. Real talk though, yeah, the lack of records really puts the whole Old Testament to question. I think I even heard somewhere that they didn't even have a israelite-exclusive cast of slaves, despite the Bible stating otherwise? Kinda hokey. I wonder how apologists explain that factoid.
You've accomplished absolutely nothing whatsoever in this thread and have wasted countless anon's time because they thought they were engaging in good faith discussion with you, when you admit you were a bad-faith actor making asspulls and making shit up for literally no fucking reason.
I fucking hate you, you simpleton fuck. You are scum and make people dumber.
That would've been a bad thing if I was the only one, while in fact I am the only one who confessed to doing this. Can you even imagine the percentage of anons we have here, who larp / pull shit straight out of their bottomless imaginations?
I provided attention to a good thread, since in my opinion going Pagan is a good way to go, all things considered. I have also provided the board with some lighthearted humor, since it was pretty funny when the guy sent me a google screenshot and I immediately changed my language and apologized.
Also, there wasn't a good faith discussion to begin with. Re-read the anon's first reactions. At least they could vent their frustration at a retard. Like you're doing right now.
Lastly, though you will have to take my word for it, 90% of the stuff I do on /x/ comes from the heart, and with cool pics to boot. Sorry if you're still mad about it, but I think I've provided plenty of reasons not to be. Stay safe out there.
Well, I guess it was pretty silly of me, especially when I used racial slurs for comedic effect. Admitting a fault is a beginning of the healing process. I am sorry for what I said in this thread, especially for the lies I have woven in order to provoke mass debate. If anyone was genuinely confused, which I doubt, to those I am double-sorry.
You'd have to be properly Norse, and properly situated in a time in history where their religion properly relevant to their daily life, you modern reconstructionist dabblerfag
That's the weakest tu quoque argument I've seen on this board. That there are larping dabblers on /x/ who think they've revived the authentic worhsip of whatever Norse god is an actual fact, regardless of whether or not I'm a dabbler myself in any other /x/ related topic. Besides. this shit on /x/ is part of my nightly entertainment. I don't dabble.
Lol I don't know how that applies to me, but yeah, the Neo-Norse pagans are jerking off dead egregores, or whichever way /x/ wants to phrase it. Although, I think that particular meme was a recent modern composition
You mean in the Eddas? Which is about the only thing anyone has to go on when interpreting Norse Religion?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Well, the 13th century is still relatively recent, but I don't think the story of the hanged men episode is actually from there. In some other thread I was in, an anon who was offended enough by the insinuation that Odin performed necrophilic gokkun tracked the anecdote down to this book: The Construction of Homosexuality by David F Greenberg. I'll try and look up my browser history.
1 week ago
Orion
>Greenberg
Ok, I'm convinced it never happened.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Lmao. Well, yeah. The anon pretty much summed it up with that. The particular tract reads like so: "because odin was heterosexually active, he was in danger of depleting his semen, the source of his powers, and therefore he had to replenish his supply from time to time. the myths tell us that he did this by visiting corpses hanging from gallows. on these visits odin drank the semen ejaculated by the hanged men." I've read enough myths involving cum to be unfazed (e.g. Thoth and Set), but occasionally you gotta ask, "Lol, where is this even from?"
1 week ago
Orion
I'm mostly just here to make fun of Norsefags.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Friendo, I make fun of everyone, even Celts. I am your nagger. Present your anus
1 week ago
Orion
As long as we all agree Wiccans and Reddit-tier atheists get the bullet too.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Ayy, ginger and nagger are just the same thing spelled differently. Fuck those Gardnerians and neckbeards.
Nah that was BS made up by a israeli author, who in that same book claimed Jesus fucked his Apostles and every God in Western mythology was gay (with no source).
Lol that's also cool. I don't shitpost for your sake
1 week ago
Anonymous
Talk about a cope.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Why are you so desperate for an argument? Lol
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Start an arguement >Act like you've done nothing wrong at all
You know what? I might actually respect you.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I shitpost almost with the equanimity of Buddhist non-attachment.
1 week ago
Orion
To be fair, most Pagan religions emphasize personal relationships with your gods over reading a text. And half of all Pagan gods are pretty much assumed to be the same dudes with a different cultural adaptation. At least in the European sense.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I agree. Don't get me wrong on that front, I just didn't like his tone.
1 week ago
Orion
Look. Look.
All of us Pagans can agree, we'll fight over anything, but at the end of the day we have basically the same likes and dislikes.
We LIKE making the gods proud, and gaining their favor.
We HATE some dude/chick/it with a septum peircing talking about their pronouns and people trying to disarm us against said Tranny Hobgoblins and Fedorists.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You take offense to "tone"? I don't know if you're a norse neopagan, but such snowflakery is so... ergi
1 week ago
Anonymous
I think you have gained my respect. In retardation I trust and I have witnessed such beauty today.
Norse is the second most Reddit kind of paganism you could get into, exceeded only by Celtic shit. If you're going to be a retard, better to be a based retard. Do Greek or Roman paganism instead.
Pick a God because you do not worship every single Old God, make sacrifices to them (I sacrifice personal vices such as tobacco) and pray to them. Prayer powers the deity.
Your father really wanted you to play baseball, but you really sucked at it, so now you devote yourself to "stick handling" to redeem yourself. But your father never taught you not to try and deepthroat the bats.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Sheesh, the Gods must be trolling you or you are misinterpereting what they are saying because you could not be farther from the truth.
1 week ago
Orion
Or you're a liar.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Doubtful. It's clear you made that up on the fly as a comeback to my roast.
1 week ago
Orion
No fucking shit, you autist. Talk shit back. Be clever.
I'm drunk as fuck and have been up since 4am, and I still have a better command of language than you. Just think of something funny, and say it.
Like my God being king of Bestiality...or the Celts being souless daywalkers...or how Rome fucked all the Druids. C'mon.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Bestiality
Pan-sexual?
1 week ago
Orion
Get the fuck out of here you libshit homosexual.
No. Cernnunos is half animal, and his first wife was a horse named Eponna. That also had a semi human form.
1 week ago
Orion
AND the funny part is that Cernnunos was in a "if you were the last dude on Earth would you..." position.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Excuse you, but that sounds like some MLP shit. Oh wait. You do work with animals.
1 week ago
Orion
THERE HE IS
Good job, look, horse pussy is basically the same as human pussy if you're built like me. And horses can't talk back.
Any of you cunts hunt or hike? I'm not a practicing pagan or animist but being in nature is the closest I'll get to it. The wiccans have shit esthetics and veer ever more into leftist idiocy, but I like the ones who faithfully observe the sabbats or wheel of the year or whatever homosexual shit they call it. A faith that places you in time and place is better than one persistently worried about an abstract end
It isn't all about nature and hunting. I can't speak for the Norsefags, but in Celtic religion, there are Gods who are more "privative" and gods of culture and civilization.
Cernunnos mostly encompasses nature and animals, but he also has a hand in war, death, and masculinity (aka, the half of humanity that actually builds stuff.)
But if it really matters to you, I work with animals. I hunt sometimes, and i'm getting more into it because fuck paying $20 for a shitty steak.
>Cernunnos >Pashupati >Horned God
I hear ya on the steaks. I'm not some kind of greentard, just so you don't get me wrong. Man is a strange animal, a part of of nature while he builds something new and "unnatural" out of it. He just loses balance sometimes. Gouging the earth for rare metals to make "environmentally-friendly" electric cars is one example I can think of
Earth can shrug us off its back if it so desires. I'm not saying we should pollute and do as we will for material, short term gain, but Earth itself and all the spirits attributed to it are going to outlive us by billions of years, or until a fluke meteor smashes us into pieces.
Some clever trickster inserted his own website into a relevant Wikipedia article (possibly a misformatted source annotation), but the site is actually quite good, and apparently he even wrote a book about the subject (picrel).
Lots of info there that should answer most of your questions. Looks like a decent place to start for sure.
start with the eddas, prose edda first then poetic
then read the sagas and the history of the germanic tribes, start with isidore and tacitus
its also worth reading the works of grimm, including their fairy tales (take note of similarities between modern german folktales and ancient pagan myths; there are many if you look closely. start with red riding hood and sleeping beauty)
njals saga, jomsviking saga and eggirs saga are my favorites, especially njal.
You should only be following the Norse Gods if you are of the appropriate descent. That said, the Germanic Pantheon was reckoned upon tribal lines, leading to the Anglo-Saxon/Ingvaeonic branch, Frisian, Norse, & Continental/German. It's equivalent to Hispanics referring to Yeshua as "hey-sous," linguistic moreso than anything else. All of the Aryan/Indo-European Pantheons are reflections of each other, whether they be Germanic, Celtic, Baltic, Slavic, Hellenic, Latin, Armenian, Egyptian, Illyrian, Dacian, Scythian, Persian, or Vedic/Indic.
As for the nature of the Gods, as the tradition was broken save for folk knowledge/clevercraft/witchcraft, & the written myths & sagas, there is no absolute agreement. Nor does there need to be. Asatru is not a dogmatic religion; so long as truth, nature, blood, and honor are observed, the rest is of little consequence. My personal view is rather schizo in a way: the Gods exist as primordial entities, the collective souls of the ancestors, archetypes within the psyche to be unlocked, as well as forces of nature, simultaneously.
The myths serve as metaphors for the most part, riddles meant to facilitate greater understanding of the world. The "pagan" worldview is cyclical; there is no true beginning, nor end, and that applies to the Gods as well, who sometimes lived as men before their ascent.
Read the Eddas, Vedas, Oera Linda, Vare Tradisjoner, & listen to Stephen McNallen, Varg Vikernes, Survive the Jive, Philosophicat, & Carolyn Emerick, then form your own understanding.
Meditation, lucid dreaming, OBE, astral projection, etc. are the best methods to reach greater knowledge, as personal experience outweighs others' testimony. Listen to Wardruna, Wolcensmen, Heilung, & Kati Ran to immerse yourself & better enter a trance conducive to receiving insight.
Odin here, you can’t it’s over. Also it changed a lot over the centuries before I got BTFO by Christ in popularity and decided to chill out so you’d have to pick what version you’d LARP into. I hate you so don’t.
Find a local (to you) blót group, most will help you along, but beware of the 'viking' and 'lutheran' groups - they've deepthroated the Hollywood and Christian bullshit.
Also this:
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You should only be following the Norse Gods if you are of the appropriate descent. That said, the Germanic Pantheon was reckoned upon tribal lines, leading to the Anglo-Saxon/Ingvaeonic branch, Frisian, Norse, & Continental/German. It's equivalent to Hispanics referring to Yeshua as "hey-sous," linguistic moreso than anything else. All of the Aryan/Indo-European Pantheons are reflections of each other, whether they be Germanic, Celtic, Baltic, Slavic, Hellenic, Latin, Armenian, Egyptian, Illyrian, Dacian, Scythian, Persian, or Vedic/Indic.
As for the nature of the Gods, as the tradition was broken save for folk knowledge/clevercraft/witchcraft, & the written myths & sagas, there is no absolute agreement. Nor does there need to be. Asatru is not a dogmatic religion; so long as truth, nature, blood, and honor are observed, the rest is of little consequence. My personal view is rather schizo in a way: the Gods exist as primordial entities, the collective souls of the ancestors, archetypes within the psyche to be unlocked, as well as forces of nature, simultaneously.
The myths serve as metaphors for the most part, riddles meant to facilitate greater understanding of the world. The "pagan" worldview is cyclical; there is no true beginning, nor end, and that applies to the Gods as well, who sometimes lived as men before their ascent.
Read the Eddas, Vedas, Oera Linda, Vare Tradisjoner, & listen to Stephen McNallen, Varg Vikernes, Survive the Jive, Philosophicat, & Carolyn Emerick, then form your own understanding.
Meditation, lucid dreaming, OBE, astral projection, etc. are the best methods to reach greater knowledge, as personal experience outweighs others' testimony. Listen to Wardruna, Wolcensmen, Heilung, & Kati Ran to immerse yourself & better enter a trance conducive to receiving insight.
Why would you wanna do that?
sharpie in pooper
Stop projecting your weird fetish fag.
Very true, though your slurs were uncalled for. We appreciate the gods as the legendary beings they are, and for the values they taught our people.
>cause and effect
anyways no gods. maybe some ancient kings have been honored and someone turned them to gods. also what i mean with "king" is obviously leader. and the leader sees itself as equal to others. that is major point too.
israelite? You realize odin was based on Moses?
Not the guy you responded to but thats just blatantly not true.
Cope much? oh I dunno... Old man with a stick, very wise, goes through terrible hardship for 9 days in a high place where the veil is thin, to deliver something very important to people which has to do with writing... who did I just describe, odin or moses?
one got up the mountain and in 9 days brought the Commandments to the tribe of Israel (which is remade into Isragard / Asgard in Norse fanfics) the other hung on a world tree to deliver runes to people. Hmmmm...
cope? i just told that pagans do not have gods, and if you heard any they are made up. maybe learn to understand the text you dummy
yeah but they do have gods. they deify moses, rebekah, Jesus Christ, YHWH and King Solomon.
yeah good golem, keep spreading your lies, it do not affect on me nor the truth. keep seething
name 5 distinct differences between Thor and YHWH from the Bible. I'll be a good golem and name 5 similarities proving religious plagiarism. Both storm deities that slowly became main gods of their pantheons. Both have a symbol based on their weapon (hammer and trident). Both beat up their dad. Both sent down thunder. Both beaten the Wyrm and the Serpent of Sea.
how hard is it understand? i say it one more time; pagans do not have any gods, so stop talking about them
who's thor then? Why do we call Thursday thursday?
you call it thursday you dumb fuck. world is not about america
yeah but who is this Thur the thursday is named after in around 20 languages including but not limited to English? was he not a god? why would the wise Pagans of the frigid North name a day after something they didn't believe in?
so you are just a child, imagine my shock
Yeah goo goo gaa gaa I'm a child, how about you answer the child's question instead of being the child's byatch?
Why is Thursday called Thursday if there wasn't a god named Thor/Thur?
ask your overlords who you worship so much, like you said; history is written by winners
Hmmmm so no answer then? How does it feel to be outsmarted by a baby? I must be a baby genius. Why do they call Friday Friggsday if there was no Frigg in pagan culture of the Germanic peoples? Did the israelites invent those and infiltrated the tribes and went like hey let's name the days of the week with these specific names of the gods we never had, because....
Because why? Profit?
and how did you outsmart me? not understanding what i'm telling you is not pretty out smarting if you ask me
also here is your answer; you fell for lies, get over it
Hey fucktard, still waiting for your response to my post here:
Come on big boy, I want you to admit you're a fundamentalist Christian who thinks the world is 6000 years old. Let's go, you coward.
The fuck? Why would the world be 6000 years old? You just skipped the dinosaurs and who knows how long this place was a molten lava rock in space and shit? How gay is that? The Earth is billions of years old. But we had the Bible for the last 6000+ of those.
You've succeeded in confusing the shit out of me because we're talking about two different things. The Bible has not existed for 6000 years. Stay mad.
Okay, yes or no question time.
Did dinosaurs exist? Or did the israelites invent those as well?
Yes or no?
Is the Bible at least 6000 years old? Yes or no?
If the Bible isn't 6000 years old, why is the carbon dating proving it is? Yes or no?
Is carbon dating also an ayyyo globohomo elite invention made to screw with you personally? Yes or no?
Let me reiterate that you are both an idiot and wrong. I fucking Google it like you said.
Oh shit my mistake sorry man
what a fucking moron, now fuck off with your lies
I made a small mistake that had notand I am sorry. Odin is still Moses tho nigguh.
yeah but both are fairy tails and either of them existed in any form in pagan life. if you say otherwise then congratulations, you are stupid
Yeah, I'm not arguing that. But one is still older than the other... Silly to argue that's not the case.
Kek, this did you in. You're an absolute retard. I think the only thing you can do now is kill yourself. Try to regain any honour you once had.
LOL there is no dishonor in admitting I was slightly wrong on a specific number that had nothing to do with the discussion anyway. I am proud to announce my ignorance, for to make mistakes is the only way to learn.
Listen billy, we let you play with the normal kids but you need to go back to the special ed class now. We have them dino nuggies ready for you.
you are also ignorant if you claim that pagans have gods. think about it
He's defeated anon. Let him writhe in the agony he's caused himself.
yeah seems like. well i need to go anyways, it just past 1am. have a good one
Yeah! You too man! Cheers!
Stop talking to yourself. Take them meds now ya hear? You best take them meds bwah.
yeah i figured out, well maybe people can see how much pagan threads gets trashed, must be the way
Only the first is me retard.
Samefags
LOL stop projecting your own faults onto others.
Calling me a samefag is about the worst cop out I have seen this debate.
No, calling ME a samefag is about the worst cop out I have seen this debate. There are six posters and 5 distinct posting styles in this thread. One of us is at LEAST 2 people. One of us had to stoop to samefagging. All because you won't admit Odin is Moses which is a solid fact I will stand by forever and ever.
I'm am certainly not samefagging so I would assume it was the other guy who argued that pagans don't have gods or something like that. Either way, still deflecting bullshit points.
Ong no cap frfr, reddit neckbeard moment.
Wait, if you're not the guy who was saying pagans don't have gods, who the fuck are you then?
I'm the first guy on the list that you accused of samefagging.
Respectfully anon, accusing me of insulting you after only speaking to you twice this thread is disrespectful. I am certainly not a same fag and can prove it. These are my only comments.
Well I mistook you for the other guy, the age of the Bible guy. Happens to everyone! I take my accusations back.
Thats good.
You still didn't explain what that even means though, pal. Let's try another approach here, okay champ? Why is there a modern-day belief that they did in fact have gods? Can you enlighten me?
>Why is there a modern-day belief that they did in fact have gods?
because winners say so. they want to push agenda. got it?
also what i mean that pagans do not have any gods=pagans do not worship any gods. all this odin thor crap is just a agenda. christian agenda
>history is written by winners
why wouldn't they lie about their enemies? gullible much?
>why would the wise Pagans of the frigid North name a day after something they didn't believe in?
Why do you believe in lies?
Glolem describes to you perfectly
See you got them gay numbers 555 meaning you're wrong about me 😉
>Religious plagiarism
Stop posting cringe
Universal truth is universal. Your desert loving israelites didn't think of it first.
Name 5 distinct differences between Saturn and YHWH. I'll wait.
They can't
also not answering the question, seems ~~*fishy*~~
There is no evidence to suggest Moses existed outside of the Bible. How does that make you feel?
lol says who?
Says every souce in scholarly works. Even the egyptians never wrote anything on it. Know why? Because the Exodus never happened. Cope much?
yeah as if the stinky egyptians would confess they were duped and punished by Moses via that stuff with the snakes and the baby killing and such.
History is written by winners (The Torah), while losers seeth and pretend nothing happened.
Lmao, the seethe from the Bible worshipping homosexual.
Pfft I don't even like the Bible what made u think I'm a bible-lover? In this case it's just obviously the inspiration for the Norse tradition. I don't like reading Moby Dick, but if someone writes a book called Mody Bick and says it's a 200 year old novel, I'll call them out on their bullshit. Relax. calm ur titteis chica comprende?
Deflection and seethe. Typical of when a Bible thumper loses an arguement. If you weren't then you wouldn't be shilling Moses so hard. I kind of pity you actually. Being so woefully unaware of the words you say.
I side with the truth you see. If we start an argument of is the Myth of Gilgamesh the source for the myth of Noah's Ark, I shall shill for Gilgamesh and call the Biblical story of Noah a latter plagiarism of the older Mesopotamian tale. Sounds like a bible thumper to you? Stop making a fool out of yourself son
>Sounds like a bible thumper to you?
pretty much yes. gullible much?
What's with all the ad-hominem attacks lad? I'm giving you straight facts. How about you argue with your own facts and counter-points? Oh u don't have none niggaaaa cuz God and Science are on my side aaaahhhh how does it feel nigguh??? Did u cry yet? Cry nigguh, cry! Cum your pants for Papa! Virus 50.
Still deflecting. I admire your stupidity. It's almost a superpower. Like a retard with super strength you know?
Lmao he noticed universal themes in human stories across the ages and OF COURSE tied it to his israelite God religion. Every. Fucking. Time.
well yeah, these are stories.
just human stories.
one human story is 6000 years old (Bible) the other is around 90 years old (Norse paganism imagined from scratch with zero evidence by nazis in 1930's)
Am i truly evil if I suggest one of these human stories inspired the other one was based on the other? The Hitler party just wanted their own Judaism to keep their silly people stronk for ze war
>6000 years old
>4000 BC
There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that Judaism is even THAT old, let alone that the old testament was solidified BEFORE THE PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT WERE BUILT. If you're not a young earth creationist then your history is piss-poor. If you are a YEC then just stop reading my post s I don't care about the discussion anymore because you're stupid and ignorant.
If you just fucked up your dates:
The sagas go back into the 400s-500s AD as compiled by Snorri Sturleson in the 1200s AD. Most scholars now acknowledge that the Norse (and Hellenic for that matter) pantheons evolved out of Proto-Indo-Europran religion, which is likely where the Cannanites got their gods from as well, who became Yahweh and all that.
No idea why you brought nazi horseshit into this, as if you've got to be a bootlicking fascist to see how foul the israelite's God is.
Hint: their God isn't foul because they're israelites, he's foul because he is evil. Re-read your Bible, read about israeli history. Go ahead. I'm not even an anti-semite. I just read history.
4000 BC is 6000 years old, dummi.
AD is 2023 years old, + 4000 = 6000~
Is this the math they teach you in gay pagan school? migguh u broke urself.. le cringe
You fucking retard
The story of the Bible hasn't existed for 6000 years.
The new testament was codified in the 300s AD (roughly 1700 years ago)
The old testament is probably from around 1500-1000 BC, which is no more than 3500 years ago.
You are fucking stupid, and a young earth creationist at that. Unreal.
Yeah but it's around 6000 years old though, google it. Oh wait google was made by israelites huh? But that antisemitic young earth creationist lecture you visited in a circus tent while drunk wasn't. Meaning only it is correct.
Gotcha.
you know we have 12k old cottage in finland, 2x older than your filthy book
Cottage cheese maybe, you silly perkele. What does this have to do with anything? Finnish people aren't the same race as the Norse and never worshipped their pantheon.
Yeah yeah the world is a lie and everyone's wrong except for mr. schizo over here... I heard that plenty of times. In a psych ward! Haha! Like I said pal, Virus 50.
norwegians and swedes were never vikings, this is that same shit; you believe everything you read
You are made of stupid! Even certain slavs were vikings. Was there a forcefield stopping certain people from becoming murderhobos and pillagers during years of poor harvest? Did the israelites invent this forcefield? Holy fuck, it's like talking to a quantum AI.
gullible much? like said; history is written by winners
Ok you're mentally ill, thanks for confirming that no one has to take you seriously
>Google it!
>well it makes sense to me bro!!!!
Just like every other drop-out genius
and who told you that?
I am actually a grown adult man. Report yourself for being wrong.
Yeah, I'd ask you to prove that but so far you've provided no evidence to support any of your points and slung insults at me and others. Childish behavior. Also i wouldn't want a child posting themselves here so do yourself a favor and just concede.
I have used rhetorical devices that might seem like insults, but are in fact arguments. Stop acting like I offended you. You said a lot of harsh words yourself. I'm not mad. Do me a courtesy and admit you are not mad as well. Behaviours we both displayed are part and parcel of arguing on an imageboard like LULZ. It would've been much stranger if I did not call you names in the process of the discussion that took place.
Why are you still argueing? I've been reading this thread and they absolutely btfo'd you? I mean, I get why you wouldn't want to concede defeat but sheesh man.
I absolutely fucked up on the current beliefs concerning the age of the Bible, however my actual points are yet to be disproven. I still stand tall, friend.
I think it is applaudable that you can admit you were wrong on that but they were also right on the debate on Moses. The exodus never happened as far as we are aware. When Israel took the Sinai peninsula during the 6 day war they excavated and found no evidence. Furthermore, the egyptians wrote everything down and would have recorded that should it have happened. I'm not trying to knock what you believe but i'm at least trying to ask that you have a more open mind on this specific topic.
To be fair, it won't fuck with my beliefs since I thought of the whole "Moses is Odin" theory on the fly for this thread in order to keep it on page 1 for almost an hour. Weird that nobody spotted that from the start, since I wrote that it took 9 days for Moses to make the Commandments, while in the source material it says (Exodus 24:18) that Moses stayed on Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 nights and not one person caught this, showing their true level of expertise. Real talk though, yeah, the lack of records really puts the whole Old Testament to question. I think I even heard somewhere that they didn't even have a israelite-exclusive cast of slaves, despite the Bible stating otherwise? Kinda hokey. I wonder how apologists explain that factoid.
https://mega.nz/folder/XyQSSQgC#9cH7q8X0qOwfTD8Ww_PcYw
Whoa, stop being so angry. It was all for a good cause.
You've accomplished absolutely nothing whatsoever in this thread and have wasted countless anon's time because they thought they were engaging in good faith discussion with you, when you admit you were a bad-faith actor making asspulls and making shit up for literally no fucking reason.
I fucking hate you, you simpleton fuck. You are scum and make people dumber.
That would've been a bad thing if I was the only one, while in fact I am the only one who confessed to doing this. Can you even imagine the percentage of anons we have here, who larp / pull shit straight out of their bottomless imaginations?
I provided attention to a good thread, since in my opinion going Pagan is a good way to go, all things considered. I have also provided the board with some lighthearted humor, since it was pretty funny when the guy sent me a google screenshot and I immediately changed my language and apologized.
Also, there wasn't a good faith discussion to begin with. Re-read the anon's first reactions. At least they could vent their frustration at a retard. Like you're doing right now.
Lastly, though you will have to take my word for it, 90% of the stuff I do on /x/ comes from the heart, and with cool pics to boot. Sorry if you're still mad about it, but I think I've provided plenty of reasons not to be. Stay safe out there.
No I won't! Not over that, anyway. Even if I will, how would you know? It won't benefit you. And I'm neither sweaty nor gay.
Well I'm sorry then I guess! Sheesh.
Apology accepted. Now apologize for everything you said in this thread.
Well, I guess it was pretty silly of me, especially when I used racial slurs for comedic effect. Admitting a fault is a beginning of the healing process. I am sorry for what I said in this thread, especially for the lies I have woven in order to provoke mass debate. If anyone was genuinely confused, which I doubt, to those I am double-sorry.
Join the Asatru Folk Assembly.
Gay.
You'd have to be properly Norse, and properly situated in a time in history where their religion properly relevant to their daily life, you modern reconstructionist dabblerfag
>x poster calls op a dabblerfag despite being on x
Humanity truely never ceases to amaze me.
That's the weakest tu quoque argument I've seen on this board. That there are larping dabblers on /x/ who think they've revived the authentic worhsip of whatever Norse god is an actual fact, regardless of whether or not I'm a dabbler myself in any other /x/ related topic. Besides. this shit on /x/ is part of my nightly entertainment. I don't dabble.
Odin jerked of dead dudes.
Lol I don't know how that applies to me, but yeah, the Neo-Norse pagans are jerking off dead egregores, or whichever way /x/ wants to phrase it. Although, I think that particular meme was a recent modern composition
You mean in the Eddas? Which is about the only thing anyone has to go on when interpreting Norse Religion?
Well, the 13th century is still relatively recent, but I don't think the story of the hanged men episode is actually from there. In some other thread I was in, an anon who was offended enough by the insinuation that Odin performed necrophilic gokkun tracked the anecdote down to this book: The Construction of Homosexuality by David F Greenberg. I'll try and look up my browser history.
>Greenberg
Ok, I'm convinced it never happened.
Lmao. Well, yeah. The anon pretty much summed it up with that. The particular tract reads like so: "because odin was heterosexually active, he was in danger of depleting his semen, the source of his powers, and therefore he had to replenish his supply from time to time. the myths tell us that he did this by visiting corpses hanging from gallows. on these visits odin drank the semen ejaculated by the hanged men." I've read enough myths involving cum to be unfazed (e.g. Thoth and Set), but occasionally you gotta ask, "Lol, where is this even from?"
I'm mostly just here to make fun of Norsefags.
Friendo, I make fun of everyone, even Celts. I am your nagger. Present your anus
As long as we all agree Wiccans and Reddit-tier atheists get the bullet too.
Ayy, ginger and nagger are just the same thing spelled differently. Fuck those Gardnerians and neckbeards.
This is our swamp. Every swamp is our swamp.
Go back bognagger.
Lots of fun to be had down here.
Nah that was BS made up by a israeli author, who in that same book claimed Jesus fucked his Apostles and every God in Western mythology was gay (with no source).
I'm not reading any of that.
That's cool. Here' the QRD
>we wuz vikangz
Regardless, your opinion is meaningless to me.
Lol that's also cool. I don't shitpost for your sake
Talk about a cope.
Why are you so desperate for an argument? Lol
>Start an arguement
>Act like you've done nothing wrong at all
You know what? I might actually respect you.
I shitpost almost with the equanimity of Buddhist non-attachment.
To be fair, most Pagan religions emphasize personal relationships with your gods over reading a text. And half of all Pagan gods are pretty much assumed to be the same dudes with a different cultural adaptation. At least in the European sense.
I agree. Don't get me wrong on that front, I just didn't like his tone.
Look. Look.
All of us Pagans can agree, we'll fight over anything, but at the end of the day we have basically the same likes and dislikes.
We LIKE making the gods proud, and gaining their favor.
We HATE some dude/chick/it with a septum peircing talking about their pronouns and people trying to disarm us against said Tranny Hobgoblins and Fedorists.
You take offense to "tone"? I don't know if you're a norse neopagan, but such snowflakery is so... ergi
I think you have gained my respect. In retardation I trust and I have witnessed such beauty today.
Norse is the second most Reddit kind of paganism you could get into, exceeded only by Celtic shit. If you're going to be a retard, better to be a based retard. Do Greek or Roman paganism instead.
Eat my Irish ass.
Reddit atheists who get into paganism should have the shit kicked out of them. Atheists don't belong in any spiritual community.
Pick a God because you do not worship every single Old God, make sacrifices to them (I sacrifice personal vices such as tobacco) and pray to them. Prayer powers the deity.
Tits
Read the Havamal.
No.
Yes.
No.
Don't disrespect me with that shutterstock posting that photo
The gods say...
Your father really wanted you to play baseball, but you really sucked at it, so now you devote yourself to "stick handling" to redeem yourself. But your father never taught you not to try and deepthroat the bats.
Sheesh, the Gods must be trolling you or you are misinterpereting what they are saying because you could not be farther from the truth.
Or you're a liar.
Doubtful. It's clear you made that up on the fly as a comeback to my roast.
No fucking shit, you autist. Talk shit back. Be clever.
I'm drunk as fuck and have been up since 4am, and I still have a better command of language than you. Just think of something funny, and say it.
Like my God being king of Bestiality...or the Celts being souless daywalkers...or how Rome fucked all the Druids. C'mon.
>Bestiality
Pan-sexual?
Get the fuck out of here you libshit homosexual.
No. Cernnunos is half animal, and his first wife was a horse named Eponna. That also had a semi human form.
AND the funny part is that Cernnunos was in a "if you were the last dude on Earth would you..." position.
Excuse you, but that sounds like some MLP shit. Oh wait. You do work with animals.
THERE HE IS
Good job, look, horse pussy is basically the same as human pussy if you're built like me. And horses can't talk back.
>all not in favor
>neigh
My horse's name is Sugar.
The trips have spoken
Based retard
Any of you cunts hunt or hike? I'm not a practicing pagan or animist but being in nature is the closest I'll get to it. The wiccans have shit esthetics and veer ever more into leftist idiocy, but I like the ones who faithfully observe the sabbats or wheel of the year or whatever homosexual shit they call it. A faith that places you in time and place is better than one persistently worried about an abstract end
It isn't all about nature and hunting. I can't speak for the Norsefags, but in Celtic religion, there are Gods who are more "privative" and gods of culture and civilization.
Cernunnos mostly encompasses nature and animals, but he also has a hand in war, death, and masculinity (aka, the half of humanity that actually builds stuff.)
But if it really matters to you, I work with animals. I hunt sometimes, and i'm getting more into it because fuck paying $20 for a shitty steak.
>Cernunnos
>Pashupati
>Horned God
I hear ya on the steaks. I'm not some kind of greentard, just so you don't get me wrong. Man is a strange animal, a part of of nature while he builds something new and "unnatural" out of it. He just loses balance sometimes. Gouging the earth for rare metals to make "environmentally-friendly" electric cars is one example I can think of
My guy.
Earth can shrug us off its back if it so desires. I'm not saying we should pollute and do as we will for material, short term gain, but Earth itself and all the spirits attributed to it are going to outlive us by billions of years, or until a fluke meteor smashes us into pieces.
That is true. Barely anything we do is so importantly devastating. All I can do is enjoy my time in the woods every chance I get.
Exactly.
And when times get hard, be willing to eat your neighbors. Obviously.
Holy shit this is the most derailed thread I've seen in a long time.
Sounds like Norse paganism is dangerous to someone lol
https://norse-mythology.org/
Some clever trickster inserted his own website into a relevant Wikipedia article (possibly a misformatted source annotation), but the site is actually quite good, and apparently he even wrote a book about the subject (picrel).
Lots of info there that should answer most of your questions. Looks like a decent place to start for sure.
start with the eddas, prose edda first then poetic
then read the sagas and the history of the germanic tribes, start with isidore and tacitus
its also worth reading the works of grimm, including their fairy tales (take note of similarities between modern german folktales and ancient pagan myths; there are many if you look closely. start with red riding hood and sleeping beauty)
njals saga, jomsviking saga and eggirs saga are my favorites, especially njal.
ignore israelites and israelite cultists
First read the myths
You should only be following the Norse Gods if you are of the appropriate descent. That said, the Germanic Pantheon was reckoned upon tribal lines, leading to the Anglo-Saxon/Ingvaeonic branch, Frisian, Norse, & Continental/German. It's equivalent to Hispanics referring to Yeshua as "hey-sous," linguistic moreso than anything else. All of the Aryan/Indo-European Pantheons are reflections of each other, whether they be Germanic, Celtic, Baltic, Slavic, Hellenic, Latin, Armenian, Egyptian, Illyrian, Dacian, Scythian, Persian, or Vedic/Indic.
As for the nature of the Gods, as the tradition was broken save for folk knowledge/clevercraft/witchcraft, & the written myths & sagas, there is no absolute agreement. Nor does there need to be. Asatru is not a dogmatic religion; so long as truth, nature, blood, and honor are observed, the rest is of little consequence. My personal view is rather schizo in a way: the Gods exist as primordial entities, the collective souls of the ancestors, archetypes within the psyche to be unlocked, as well as forces of nature, simultaneously.
The myths serve as metaphors for the most part, riddles meant to facilitate greater understanding of the world. The "pagan" worldview is cyclical; there is no true beginning, nor end, and that applies to the Gods as well, who sometimes lived as men before their ascent.
Read the Eddas, Vedas, Oera Linda, Vare Tradisjoner, & listen to Stephen McNallen, Varg Vikernes, Survive the Jive, Philosophicat, & Carolyn Emerick, then form your own understanding.
Meditation, lucid dreaming, OBE, astral projection, etc. are the best methods to reach greater knowledge, as personal experience outweighs others' testimony. Listen to Wardruna, Wolcensmen, Heilung, & Kati Ran to immerse yourself & better enter a trance conducive to receiving insight.
Odin here, you can’t it’s over. Also it changed a lot over the centuries before I got BTFO by Christ in popularity and decided to chill out so you’d have to pick what version you’d LARP into. I hate you so don’t.
>How does one properly get into Norse Paganism?
First ask yourself why bother?
Second, if you've decided to bother, read.
Find a local (to you) blót group, most will help you along, but beware of the 'viking' and 'lutheran' groups - they've deepthroated the Hollywood and Christian bullshit.
Also this:
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