> The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.
That technology seems to run on children anyways. So why don't we just raise them better than consume them to make a few gigaboomers that pretends to run the world.
would not want to live forever anyway. but I think we are one of the last generations to have proper technology. the next generations will hunt and gather, and technical civilization cannot be started up ever again because we have harvested all the easily accessible fossil fuels.
Pump it from the ground without subsequently fracturing or filling the well with drilling fluid. The lower pressure causes the well to refill from below.
I am finishing a bioinformatics PhD precisely to work on immortality. The main problem is there is precisely 0 serious effort, be it in academia or industry, on immortality research right now. Not even 1, it's dreadful. The closest you'll get is regeneration, but that's still 90% bullshit, though there are a couple serious labs there.
I don't mind if we don't get it this generation so long as it's close. I will freeze myself and that will be that. But if it's too far in the future, then I'm fucked. The likelihood I'll still be recoverable, or will be recoverable without extensive further research in various topics, becomes slim to none.
>The main problem is there is precisely 0 serious effort, be it in academia or industry, on immortality research right now. Not even 1, it's dreadful. The closest you'll get is regeneration, but that's still 90% bullshit, though there are a couple serious labs there.
depends on what you call a "serious" effort, if you're saying there hasn't been substantial progress so far then I agree (although even then, we've certainly made some critical discoveries in the past decade), but if you're saying nobody is actually trying at all, I find it hard to agree with that
I wonder how will all these anti-science Luddites and Amish people react to this technology.. I doubt these people will just choose to die
they'll just take it and go on being hypocrites talking about how terrible technology is
>I wonder how will all these anti-science Luddites and Amish people react to the Internet. I doubt these people will just choose to read the Bible all day. >they'll just browse LULZ and go on being hypocrites talking about how terrible technology is
You are falling for a propaganda caricature used by the media and government to force you into dependency toward the system. It's not about "technology", those people do use the wheel and are aware that it's technology. It's about technology products. It's the difference between thinking the wheel of fortune is stupid and thinking the wheel on your car is cool.
A lot of normal people would choose to die because many people believe death is an important part of life. The first written story created by humanity ever (Epic of Gilgamesh) is "immortality bad." This is especially true if this immortality comes in the form of becoming an artificial brain like the matrix, as then you bring into account the Ship of Theseus paradox and wonder if the new "immortal being" would be real
>A lot of normal people would choose to die because many people believe death is an important part of life.
I would choose to finally die because I am not just a little bit psychologically crippled by my childhood and I don't see how immortality would fix that. it would just be more of the same shit.
>implying we won't
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams
> The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.
>he doesn't eat newborn foreskins
That technology seems to run on children anyways. So why don't we just raise them better than consume them to make a few gigaboomers that pretends to run the world.
would not want to live forever anyway. but I think we are one of the last generations to have proper technology. the next generations will hunt and gather, and technical civilization cannot be started up ever again because we have harvested all the easily accessible fossil fuels.
Oil is abiotic and renewable.
What is the fastest way to renew oil
Pump it from the ground without subsequently fracturing or filling the well with drilling fluid. The lower pressure causes the well to refill from below.
prove it
Trivially proved already by others, and well known in the industry.
if it's that trivial prove it
Undisturbed oil wells refill over time, therefore oil is abiotic and renewable. QED.
yeah, right, the entire oil industry just missed the memo, right?
/x/ is that way >>>/x/
>yeah, right, the entire oil industry just missed the memo, right?
They know.
Considering that I don't even want to live right now, I'm not really bothered.
if that were true you wouldn't be here posting about it
*dies the next week*
😉 wink
thank god i don't need to live to see the future where gen beta is 100% tranny fags
imagine how realistic video games are gonna get though
What does it matter if the games are going to be shit? Games like half life or san andreas have horrible graphics but are GOATED senpai
I am finishing a bioinformatics PhD precisely to work on immortality. The main problem is there is precisely 0 serious effort, be it in academia or industry, on immortality research right now. Not even 1, it's dreadful. The closest you'll get is regeneration, but that's still 90% bullshit, though there are a couple serious labs there.
I don't mind if we don't get it this generation so long as it's close. I will freeze myself and that will be that. But if it's too far in the future, then I'm fucked. The likelihood I'll still be recoverable, or will be recoverable without extensive further research in various topics, becomes slim to none.
>The main problem is there is precisely 0 serious effort, be it in academia or industry, on immortality research right now. Not even 1, it's dreadful. The closest you'll get is regeneration, but that's still 90% bullshit, though there are a couple serious labs there.
depends on what you call a "serious" effort, if you're saying there hasn't been substantial progress so far then I agree (although even then, we've certainly made some critical discoveries in the past decade), but if you're saying nobody is actually trying at all, I find it hard to agree with that
Aubrey De Grey seems to think it will happen in about 10 to 13 years time.
But only if you pay him more.
Aubrey de grey thinks a lot of things. A lot of wrong things, few to no right ones however.
I wonder how will all these anti-science Luddites and Amish people react to this technology.. I doubt these people will just choose to die
they'll just take it and go on being hypocrites talking about how terrible technology is
>I wonder how will all these anti-science Luddites and Amish people react to the Internet. I doubt these people will just choose to read the Bible all day.
>they'll just browse LULZ and go on being hypocrites talking about how terrible technology is
You are falling for a propaganda caricature used by the media and government to force you into dependency toward the system. It's not about "technology", those people do use the wheel and are aware that it's technology. It's about technology products. It's the difference between thinking the wheel of fortune is stupid and thinking the wheel on your car is cool.
Urban surburban contrarian would probably. Based orthodox amish would choose to die when you tried to sell them eternal life.
Because the Amish know that they already have true eternal life.
A lot of normal people would choose to die because many people believe death is an important part of life. The first written story created by humanity ever (Epic of Gilgamesh) is "immortality bad." This is especially true if this immortality comes in the form of becoming an artificial brain like the matrix, as then you bring into account the Ship of Theseus paradox and wonder if the new "immortal being" would be real
>A lot of normal people would choose to die because many people believe death is an important part of life.
I would choose to finally die because I am not just a little bit psychologically crippled by my childhood and I don't see how immortality would fix that. it would just be more of the same shit.
>we
>immortality
Why would I want to be immortal? For me it is eternal slumber. Nonexistence seems far better.
What makes you think that kind of technology is ever going to be available to the public?
That question has been asked for centuries. We are no closer to generating life from the inherent elements much less sustaining it indefinitely
Worse than that = immortality + unlimited matrix like sex with celebrities and anime teens
You won't be immortal. You will get dementia or get crushed by a landslide some time.
Moron.
What will feed new life? How will diversification of species happen?
this your duty as a human to pull the plug on them "uploaded brains", wipe the drives, and copy memes onto them
what will your anti-ageing tech be worth when cybercthulu turns you to slime and resets evolution to the cretaceous?