How do you know your ugly if you've only been told by yourself and other guys?

How do you know your ugly if you've only been told by yourself and other guys? In fact it's strange to focus on physical appearance when women have preferences for people of all body types, that's what fetishes are. There's at least one woman who would find your specific physical attributes attractive but instead you give up hope because it's easier to say it will never happen.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Girls do indeed like all sorts of dudes, but no one likes an ugly face. 90% of the men posting here aren't ugly though. It's a bunch of average or even above average men with social/mental issues.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >90% of the men posting here aren't ugly though. It's a bunch of average or even above average men with social/mental issues
      *borderline dead tuareg tumbling deliriously into oasis water pool* finally, someone else who has had sex

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >women have preferences for people of all body types
      No they don't, they all only want Chad. They may lie and say they want other dudes, but any chick that says that is just settling for a sub-standard male until they can get with Chad. If you believe a chick that says this, you've simply fallen for their tricks, and it'll end with them leaving you to go get pumped-and-dumped by Chad.

      You do realize that 80% of men are ugly to women, right? The average woman considers only 20% of men to be average or above-average. So chances are that women would consider every guy here ugly, since they clearly aren't Chad.

      >90% of the men posting here aren't ugly though. It's a bunch of average or even above average men with social/mental issues
      *borderline dead tuareg tumbling deliriously into oasis water pool* finally, someone else who has had sex

      >female hands wrote this post

      All of those guys are ugly, it's like the came out of a factory

      Yep, they want a man with a carbon-copy body to match their own carbon-copy personality.
      Seriously, you talk to one woman, you've talked to them all.

      >women have preferences for people of all body types

      Only based and accurate post in this thread, women will try and deny that this is the case, but know deep down that it's true.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where are you getting these statistics? I'd really like to know your sources

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't have the exact study to hand, but it was one where they asked a group of men to rate a selection of women from 0-10, and asked a group of women to do the same for a selection of men.

          The men rated the women as being an average of 5, with about as many 0's as 10's. About what you'd expect
          The women, on the other hand, overwhelmingly voted 80% of dudes as being below 5 (with an average rating of around 2). This means that most women view the average guy as being very hideous.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok but there could be some alternative explanations rather than "average man is hideous"
            >women are more sensitive to personal preference in appearance than men, e.g. a woman may be more likely to rate blonds lower if she doesn't like blonds than a man
            >women are more sensitive to photo quality/context than men, e.g. a woman is more likely to low-rate a potato selfie than a man
            >women's attraction is less dependent on physical appearance than men's, e.g. a woman may find a man physically attractive but if she isn't attracted to him for some other reason, she is more likely to rate him low than a man in the same situation
            >women take more care of their appearance, so average female attractiveness is as a rule higher than average male attractiveness, so the scales used here aren't equal

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >women are more sensitive to personal preference in appearance than men, e.g. a woman may be more likely to rate blonds lower if she doesn't like blonds than a man
              Proof for this?
              are more sensitive to photo quality/context than men, e.g. a woman is more likely to low-rate a potato selfie than a man
              Proof for this?
              's attraction is less dependent on physical appearance than men's, e.g. a woman may find a man physically attractive but if she isn't attracted to him for some other reason, she is more likely to rate him low than a man in the same situation
              Proof for this?
              take more care of their appearance, so average female attractiveness is as a rule higher than average male attractiveness, so the scales used here aren't equal
              Proof for this?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean the last one is just... true, like why is so much of the fashion and make up industry catered towards women because it's their main demographic

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why is so much of the fashion and make up industry catered towards women
                Because this is not how men improve their looks. Gyms and protein powders are also targeted towards men more.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shut the fuck up lying foid subhuman shit

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              These are all cope answers. The most logical explanation to women negatively rating most men is that they view most men as ugly. There's no need to try and weasel out a more complex answer when the simpler answer makes more sense.

              >it is womens fault men reject the average woman and it is also their fault if women desire a better than average guy

              The issue is what most women consider to be "average" is what most men would consider to be an 8/10+ male. Women have warped views of what's average. Hell, assuming you're not a woman yourself, they likely consider you to be extremely below-average too.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most women in the USA are obese dummy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They are not honestly rating men even taking into account all that made up bullshit you just wrote. If they were being honest we would see a proper bell curve with 5/10 being average. Women's ratings are invalid because the average man is rated as below average by them. It's the same as saying 2+2=3.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              These answers, if true, make the situation worse. Because if true, they prove that most women are solipsists to the point of having a fucking mental disorder.

              I, too, have personal preferences and can tell a high quality photo from a low quality photo. But that doesn't stop me from being able to being able to judge where among the overall population someone's attractiveness lies, while adjusting for those factors.

              If you look at 100 pictures and your ratings for those people don't fall on a bell curve and you give me the reasons you just listed as explanations, I am going to concede that you are either fucking retarded, or that you have your nose so fucking far in the air that it has made you literally mentally disturbed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >female hands wrote this post
        the distinguished service cross of dealing with incels (i'm a dude)

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >women have preferences for people of all body types

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All of those guys are ugly, it's like the came out of a factory

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Implying women care at all about individuality or originality. They're themselves literally a carbon copy of each other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All of those guys are ugly
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did you know that out of 100 replies to the last ideal gf thread, 0 robots wanted a kind gf and only two said "smart"? what do you think the most common reply was?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only two said "smart"
        anyone with a large enough brain to desire and be a good partner to someone else with a large brain would be aware of how cringe it is to declare oneself as a "sapiosexual"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So? An ugly girl can find hundreds of men to date while and ugly guy will most likely die alone.

        Women care about looks far more than men do. Men care about personality.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They care about face to a really insane extent as they disregard tall muscular men like me who lack Chad level faces

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what do you think the most common reply was?

        It was probably "thin", but that is women's fault.

        In a sane society, no one would have to specify "thin" because ALL young women - or nearly all would BE thin, so it would go without saying.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it is womens fault men reject the average woman and it is also their fault if women desire a better than average guy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Thin men want thin women
            What's the problem?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no problem. its just silly to accuse women of being shallow when the evidence from ideal partner threads shows that robots overwhelmingly prioritize appearance over other factors. the average woman weighs 170lbs. so a 5 is 170lbs. there is nothing wrong with wanting a thin/6+ partner so why cry when women want better than average too?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the average woman weighs 170lbs. so a 5 is 170lbs. there is nothing wrong with wanting a thin/6+ partner
                If being thin makes you "above average" then robots are also "above average". There is nothing inconsistent about their desires.
                >so why cry when women want better than average too?
                They don't want "above average". They want way above average despite being average/below average themselves.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Men admitted to being shallow back in the stone age you stupid vagina ape, all YOU WOMEN do is lie about not being shallow 24/7.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the average woman weighs 170lbs. so a 5 is 170lbs.

                The average young woman SHOULD weigh 120 pounds. For millennia, they did. For millennia, fat women were rare.

                That's the true default state. That's why I said that it shouldn't even be necessary for a young man to specify that he wants his partner to be thin. It should just happen.

                Moving off of that default state is something that women did by consuming too much food. That makes it the fault of women. There is really no other way to look at it.

                If you are a man who doesn't want to date 170 pound women, but that's all the world offers you, you should FUCKING HATE fat women for existing and for the literal lifetime of gluttony that they had to engage in to become fat. And you should ABSOLUTELY blame them for your predicament.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so we agree, there is nothing wrong with desiring an above average mate? you dont want a 5 or 6, and you feel strongly that others should reject them too. why cant i do the same?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chad isnt simply above average the sheer rarity of his level of face shows that, stupid foid.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so we agree, there is nothing wrong with desiring an above average mate?

                NO, because we got on to this topic because you thought you were oh-so-clever to point out that the responses in an IDEAL girlfriend thread tended to specify "thin".

                I then pointed out that the only reason this happens is because of the fucking disgusting sins and crimes of fat landwhale cunts.

                It is possible to simultaneously know that the average woman is a fucking disgusting gluttonous obese pig who deserves to be forcibly starved in a work camp, AND that your "ideal" of avoiding dating such a loathsome pig probably isn't attainable in the current year. A thread asking people to describe their IDEAL will get descriptions of their IDEAL.

                In any event, if you want to stay hung up on the word "average" - over the entire span of humanity since Homo Sapiens Sapiens evolved roughly 230,000 years ago, the female "average" is "thin".

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why are you moving the goalposts? the average female today is disgusting to you. ideally, you would want, what? 120? less? that is going to be a 7 or 8. would you settle for less if you could not get your ideal?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >did you know that out of 100 replies to the last ideal gf thread, 0 robots wanted a kind gf and only two said "smart"? what do you think the most common reply was?
        some shitty thread, I wasn't even part of is now used as some kind of truth.
        Bitch, I literally have dreams about a 5/10 dopey features woman that was surprisingly intelligent.
        Finding a woman that has an attractive appearance while they are young is easy enough.
        Finding a woman with a beautiful mind, a personality is fucking impossible. Women are SO FUCKING UGLY INSIDE!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >takes issue when a generalization is drawn from his fellow moids behavior. bases his worldview on fb screengrab ragebait memes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bases his worldview on fb screengrab ragebait memes.
            Talking from real world experience bitch.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              hahaha dysgenic incel moids have no real world experience

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm trolling LOOK MOM IM TROLLING!!!!
                pathetic.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm 30 and not a single woman has ever flirted with me. i know 1000% i am ugly as fuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That just sounds like pessimism, I know plenty of people who married by 50, the moment you lose hope you've already lost

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be 14
    >Shoulder length blonde hair and youthful face
    >Chillin at the park waiting for my friends to be done dinner
    >See 2 girls
    >One girl says "Hey that guy looks kinda cute"
    >Other girl replies with "Oh I thought that was an ugly girl"
    >First girl says "Oh your right, now I can't tell"
    Ever since that I assumed I was igly

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your lives are like fucking comedies, THE FIRST GIRL LIKED YOU AND GOT NERVOUS WHEN HER FRIEND DISAGREED and so she awkwardly backtracked to not get caught out in the open

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe but I also was posted a picture of me from this time period in my groups discord server once and my buddy said I looked like I could have been the missing Hanson brother.

        There was probably also an element of her friend subtextually being like "hey we don't know this guy don't just invite him over to fuck with us" and her catching that and walking back what she said. But still that initial statement was completely organic

        Maybe. I really don't remember every detail of this situation, like I don't even know if I looked up to see if the girls were cute or not but I do recall the first girl talking quiet like she didn't want to be heard and the second girl being loud like she wanted me to know I looked like a girl

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was probably also an element of her friend subtextually being like "hey we don't know this guy don't just invite him over to fuck with us" and her catching that and walking back what she said. But still that initial statement was completely organic

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ugly in foidspeak means you arent Chad, ugly in malespeak means your face causes people to reflexively gag.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There's at least one woman who would find your specific physical attributes attractive

    *One* woman may as well be zero, since your odds of coming across here are literally lottery tier.

    You need to be attractive to at least 10% of women to have any realistic chance of finding a partner.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I look like that guy on the right, big lips and similar haircut. I've been told I have a very innocent face.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because girls called me ugly too. But they were just trying to insult me so it doesn't count.

    But I did overhear some discussing who's attractive and who's not, and I came up in the "ew, definitely not" category.

    And overheard my female friend telling a mutual friend how I'm the ugliest guy she's ever known.

    Even the girl that went on a few dates with me repeatedly admitted she found me unattractive (even though I didn't ask), but was willing to give it a go because I "seemed sweet enough".

    Don't get me wrong, I'm socially awkward too, but my face is a dealbreaker for pretty much every woman anyway.

    Also I'm now 30 and still have acne.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      get tretinoin bro, it worked miracles for my acne

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll ask my dermatologist. Thanks.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Costs like $3/tube from jeet internet pharmacies, pic related. Unless you are filthy rich in which case no reason not to see a derm. It might ask you to upload a prescription but you can skip it. They never check. I use tretinoin too and it's good stuff. Just go up slowly from every other day lower concentration to more frequent or higher concentration. It will make you more sensitive to light so if you are outside much consider spf face moisturizer. If you overdo it you get a weird rash, looks and feels bad. Also don't use tret on your neck, for whatever reason it fucks non-face skin pretty hard. I learned that one the hard way.
          In terms of shit you put on your face it's about as good as anti aging gets except maybe some peels and it's way cheaper than the lotions and potions from babor and similar.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my self esteem is below trash and whenever i get compliment from someone else than my family i instantly take it as an attempt of mocking me

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Wanting a girl who isn't fat is the equivalent of wanting a dude who looks like a chad???
    Is this retarded women logic or what? The actual equal would be a non-fat girl wants a non-fat guy, because not being fat is above average for both genders

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