how do we stop distrocancer?

how do we stop distrocancer?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T FREELY MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE FOSS SOFTWARE

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how do we stop distrocancer?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gas the fretards
      ok jay

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    distributions are actually good, they push innovation so the software doesn't stagnate and rot eternally (like Windows is right now)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      distros have nothing to do with software stagnation. If anything they promote it because they fragmentate the wider linux community which promotes reinventing the wheel for their ecosystem instead of everyone developing towards one project and directly improving it.
      Could've just had something more akin to BSD rather than having 800 distros with 95% of them being dead or dog shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not at all, distro vendors actually have to compete for users, which leads to innovation
        BSD is pretty much dead in the water

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the only innovation to come out has been with guix and nix, otherwise it's just been forks of distros like ubuntu/debian, arch, etc. that slightly change a DE environment or offer different init systems. Not sure what you mean by innovation when you can almost essentially get the same system as someone else sans their package manager (at least not without an extreme amount of pointless difficulty) and perhaps package availability in their repos like with certain drivers. It's all the same shit and new things that emerge have nothing to do with the fact that there are a variety of distros or a competition between distro vendors and users, only the fact that linux in itself has a large enough following to allow people to pursue large scale collaborative projects.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the only innovation to come out has been with guix and nix
            and Fedora Silverblue, openSUSE MicroOS
            snapd, Flatpak
            Wayland, systemd, pipewire
            the list goes on

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that Fedora and openSUSE can offer these as alternatives to their distros to me shows that there is no reason why we cannot have these innovations exist as a "singular distribution". We could've just been centralized and offered innovative designs on a consistent base platform.
              >snapd, Flatpak
              these literally only exist because of the fact that linux distros exist as they do, they are to try to generalize package management across all distros and wouldn't even have to exist if linux was centralized.
              >Wayland, systemd, pipewire
              again, none of these pieces of software have to be used on an entirely different distro. I could swap out xorg for wayland right now on my void install if I wanted to. I am not arguing that there is software stagnation on linux, but rather that the set of innovation attributable to its fragmented distro setup is extremely small (again, probably nix/guix are the only two distros we can point to as innovating strictly BECAUSE they are a new distro), and is not reflected in your list of general software innovations by the wider linux community.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >again, none of these pieces of software have to be used on an entirely different distro. I could swap out xorg for wayland right now on my void install if I wanted to.
                yes, that's the result of Linux being free software
                competition benefits everyone, leading to innovation across the board
                in competing they also help each other, one of the greatest strengths of free software

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              all of those are literally regressions, not innovations
              nix and guix aren't "innovations" either - they are also not regressions, but rather side stories

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >new solutions solving old problems more efficiently are actually regression
                alright

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There’s probably less than 10 that are relevant. And maybe 3-4 that truly matter. It’s not too different from BSD in this way. It’s just weirdos with too much free time tend to focus exclusively on Linux for creating endless spinoffs and derivatives.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is true, there are only 4 distros:
          Debian, Fedora, Arch, Gentoo
          >muh uboontoo
          Ubuntu is downstream from Debian
          >muh openSUS
          OpenSUSE is downstream from Red Hat

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >OpenSUSE is downstream from Red Hat
            no its not. SUSE is it's own thing
            RHEL is downstream fedora

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >promotes reinventing the wheel
        That is called refinement. Isn't that what your McMacintosh claims to have done?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The real world is not your fantasy land where everyone has the same needs and agrees on literally everything.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most people need a functioning operating system that is compatible with popular software.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is exemplified by any open source project hosted on any git website
        >how to:
        >windows (like 2 billion users): just download .exe bro
        >macos (millions of users) : just download .dmg bro
        >linux (also millions of users): just compile and take care of dependencies bro

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >linux (also millions of users): just compile and take care of dependencies bro
          You don't have to compile anything. In fact you can literally just use an app store.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >just compile and take care of dependencies bro
          um
          >open software center
          >click install on the program i want
          ????
          alternatively
          >download .appimage
          >run .appimage
          ????
          there is no difference between linux and any other mainstream OS in this regard. if you want software that isnt available in either of those formats, there is a 100% chance any equivilant sofrware on windows/macOS also requires compiling.

          and by the way, the steps for compiling just about any piece of software out there is
          >[pacman -S] requirements.txt
          >make
          >make install
          which is about as complicated as its ever going to get

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you will also probably need to download and install the whole compiler toolchain for the application you want to compile

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb thread for dumb "people"

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have 10 standards
    >create the new standard that will replace all of them
    >have 11 standards
    >repeat ad infinitum

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok, now go back to r*ddit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thanks xkcd

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why aren’t code auditors more common? seems like BSD has some problems with the skill level of their contributing members and pointers eg X11

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do we stop mactoddlers and windowstroons?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a Debian Stable user I can't really relate

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make a new distro and declare it as the standard.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Linux will never be popular until all distros come together to make one final distribution.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is not true at all. Even if this did happen, it would fail because of completely different ideas and philosophies.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just ignore it. there will always be autists who want to use or create obscure shit just to validate themselves.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There’s probably less than 10 that are relevant. And maybe 3-4 that truly matter. It’s not too different from BSD in this way. It’s just weirdos with too much free time tend to focus exclusively on Linux for creating endless spinoffs and derivatives.

      >if you have heckin hobbies and like to LULZ you're a autist weirdo!
      When did Reddit crab mentality start appearing on LULZ, and how do we get rid of the tourists?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When did Reddit crab mentality start appearing on LULZ, and how do we get rid of the tourists?

        Shortly after Digg died, and you can't.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can't. it's not a complete system. it will never be. come to freebsd, it was made at least a decade before linus shitvauls wrote a single line of te kernel
    freebsd is a complete system with it's kerbel userspace and documentation in a single place. there are no freebsd distros there is a single freebsd. it will bever bow down to companies or popular shit like basedstemd and wayland

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NetBSD came before FreeBSD, why should I use FreeBSD instead of NetBSD?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i don't know. i don't care about other bsds. thiss is an all purpose one and the one with the most mature kernel

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what makes its kernel the most mature?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            compare the kernel siizes of the 3 bsds

            freebsd has the most hardware support. it is really good for desktop. openbsd is made for server. netbsd again, limited desktop support. both of those 2 are fine, they just have different, specialized purpouses. freebsd is an all arounder. you can use it for embedded, servers, desktops.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >complete system
      bloat, I prefer to piece together my system for best performance, and FreeBSD doesn't provide good performance

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kerbel userspace

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kys troon

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    install guix

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically (inb4 not a real world)
    arch in the very current state
    >cli install script to filter t00tal n00bi3s
    >just werks
    >aur

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nagger

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >STOP THINKING DIFFERENTLY AND AGREE WITH *MY* OPINION WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
    Do proprietards really...?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have four words for you:
    Should
    Have
    Fucking
    Listened

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Diversity is good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Diversity is good.
      109 countries and counting

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By installing Ubuntu and deleting everything else.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think I have seen a similar image but for protestant denominations.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    take out the ones that have under 1k users and your shitty visualization will look a lot cleaner

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LFS for everyone

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought you free market homos like choice

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP is about to discover entropy
    you're already there anon, don't come back now that you've almost got it

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only see 5 distros and a lot of desktop environments. What's the issue?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > stop using and redistributing different software
    no

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cancer is more application packaging standards than distros imo

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why contain it

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    with more distros

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On the fly distro assembly. Website where you
    >Select drivers and kernel modules
    >Compile the stripped down and customized kernel
    >Select bootloader
    >Select init script
    >Select select low level packages like network managers, filesystem managers, etc..
    >Select DE components, file browser, window manager, render server
    >Select high level components, terminal emulator, web browser, productivity software, etc...

    That's it. Distros are fundamentally just shitty bundles of software. What started as a convenience measure has ended up gerrymandering the entire linux space and forces everyone to compromise on shit they don't really need to compromise on. That is unless you know linux in and out and can retroactively strip down a distro into your taste, but that's essentially just making your own distro in the first place and requires a big investment in terms of time to learn what each package does and so on.

    I'll be the first to admit I don't know as much about linux as I wish I did so I could be wrong though. Distros MAY be more than just bundled software. If so, I'd love for someone to tell me why.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For what purpose?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >84
    just starting out but still soulful
    >99
    peak soul design.
    >01
    start of gloss cancer but at least not flat and still usable.
    >17
    dawn of flatshit, death of soul.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better cataloguing would be a start. and by cataloguing, i mean take this same image and annotate each branch with a short bio on what this branch is, what its creators sought to do differently to other branches and why, and shit like that.
    Lots of distros is a good thing insofar as it gives you much more freedom to choose, at the cost of creating information overload for people especially noobs who dont know what to choose or how to decide. If you give the people the resources to micromanage these choices as precisely as they want then the only downside of the lots of distros problem goes away

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