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How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?
By somehow making things not be fucked.
Redirecting money from subsidizing Bantus to actual productive activity would be a good start.
more wealth is extracted from africa than is put in. obtain a cohesive materialist understanding of the world.
No country in human history has spent more money on black people than the United States of America, and gotten 0 return for it. They should have been expatriated decades ago.
Expatriated? To?
Since you are low IQ, let me spell it out for you like a child.
The wealth is extracted from the land.
The land is owned by western corporations.
The land is owned by them because they bought it
They bought it because Africans sold it
They sold it, willingly, because good prices were offered to them
These corporations then hire the local blacks to work for them as labourers
They accept because they are unemployed otherwise, and would likely be in a neo-slavery sort of situation if not a job
They get paid by western corporations
So western corporations are literally giving back to the blacks by giving them money for land and then employing them. They extract resources from the land, not the people. They steal nothing from the people. And if it wasn't western corporations extracting it from the land, the blacks would squat on it for an additional 10000 years. The land gets value because of western corporation. It was worthless before. You guys get paid by us. What should really happen is we should send our own workers over there so that no Black gets paid and benefits from the west. But that isn't logistically possible. So be thankful to your American overlords. If we pulled out, you guys would literally die of starvation in the coming decades. You get endless money from the so called "Extraction of wealth". And this is aside from the billions Africans receive in USAID and Aid from Europe every year. Literally the largest chunk of begging nations surviving on foreign aid. Sing praises and Glories of your western masters because of whom you are able to survive.
africans sold it at gunpoint
governments that refused were couped
Resources are useless if you're not using them and nobody is buying them
Ok but I don't want any of their "wealth" I just want to live in my own country with my own people.
you're not getting any of it. the money goes straight to major shareholders of international corporations
>more wealth is extracted
WRONG
the place has so little infrastructure it was actually a huge investment for imperial powers to go there, which is why they got so brutal aiming to at least break even.
In the end world wars happened and they never fully recouped the investment.
Poltrash actually believe this kek
Such pathetic and exploitable imbeciles
If Black people had their way that /misc/ meme would become reality.
/thread
>mid-20th century
>optimism
yeah maybe in some countries not mine
>live in occupation of Russian tank
>get v& as CIA spy for listening to West German radio
>listen to warped propaganda in school and work about class struggle and Soviet-Lithuanian friendship and we were always part of Russia since 4000 BC
>half your male relative taken away to work camp in Siberia to die of exhaustion, cold, and hunger
>live in grey cinder block apartment
>store has nothing to buy in it
>nothing to look forward to but war with NATO
>we were always part of Russia since 4000 BC
Is there any truth to this?
Imagine being so mentally weak that you're swayed by 70 year old propaganda
>everyone is a deranged mentally ill leftist pedophile like me
>nobody has ever achieved anything
And it starts.
This is incoherent
Take meds
This, OP. It depends on what country you’re talking about.
>depends on what country you’re talking about.
Americans. They used to see themselves as the leaders of the world and were the greatest innovators, now they're just the world's police
>now they're just the world's police
Freedom aint free
the tree of US hegemony gotta be litterd with the blood and ak47s of 3rd world goat herders. Angela Merkel a.k.a Miss "I'm afraid of dogs" is not my EU ally. She is globohomo matriarch and probably lesbian as well. CIA and Mossad not grassroot nationalists ok. Praise burgers
Muh leftists
>NNNOOOOO not Optimism in mid 20th century USA! It's heckin advertisement not real!!!
News flash losers: That optimist sentiment was a worldwide phenomenon, from Brazil ("50 years of progress in only 5") to the Soviet Union (space exploration) to India (independence, new future as a united nation)
The winning side of the next world war will get to experience it
have the glow naggers focus on love and happiness instead of cynicism, reluctant guilt and remorse, and fear mongering.
It starts small, with being optimistic in your day to day life. It gets bigger and bigger, until one fine day we will just as excited for the future as we once were.
Lol
Why laugh? He's absolutely right
Stop associating everything with politics and start using the propaganda machine to promote groundbreaking research.
We are excited for the future.
You will never be a woman though so dont get too excited.
Why would I want to be a woman when my wife is one?
>excited for future
>out of the trillions of new exciting possibilites created by an optimistic future this retard chooses fucking, and fucking something closer to a child than a woman
have sex immediatly
Why would you encourage a pedophile to seek sex?
the process of having (consensual) sex many times involves not being repulsive, which may help him in dropping his kiddie lust, which 100% stems from not being sucessful with women.
Nah, there isn't a cure for pedo. It's a deeply rooted disorder.
Maximizing next quarter's profits is the only thing that matters anymore. There's no room for what you're describing under the current economic paradigm.
there needs to actually be a future
do something about the rich people who won't let us transition off fossil fuels, and who keep squishing people between rising rents and stagnating wages
>transition off fossil fuels
Why is that a reddit moment? Whether you think global warming is happening or not (spoiler: it is), there is only a finite amount of coal and oil buried in the earth.
>Whether you think global warming is happening or not (spoiler: it is)
Why do you believe it isn't? And what has led the overwhelming majority of scientists to conclude it's happening if it isn't?
Plus again even if it isn't, you do know there's only a finite amount of coal and oil buried in the earth, right?
>overwhelming majority of scientists
Which are all israelite, I will never trust israelite to my last breath
So again, suppose it isn't happening- the coal and oil buried under the earth is still a finite quantity which will run out eventually.
Overwhelming majority of "climate scientists" i.e. a pseudo scientific fifth column, no change in the climate is outside of expectable fluctuations, ffs this is a history board so you should know there was "climate change" well before any industry was founded by humans.
>you do know there's only a finite amount of coal and oil buried in the earth
Windmills and solar panels dont produce enough electricity by a longshot, I am all for exciting the 19th century and using nuclear power but you green fucks refuse that too and your alternatives to fossil fuels are all shit, so thank god for those billionaires keeping the oil flowing.
Yes, the climate has had gradual fluctuations but the RATE at which it is changing is definitely not precedented.
Personally I think the hate for nuclear is stupid, but I understand why- people are afraid of another Chernobyl.
Nah its just boomers and boomer commies brainwashing zoomers to undermine western industry and its ability to defend itself from Asiatic aggression.
And you know this how exactly?
You are wasting your time, retards who don't believe in climate change at this point will not be convinced
I'm not arguing to convince him, I'm arguing in the hopes of swaying any bystanders who were on the fence.
Yeah what would we do without you, all those billion dollar media conglomerates, institutions, universities and billionaires denying climate change 24/7, we really need people like you to sway public opinion against the evil empire.
No one is on the fence. You either buy the propaganda or you accept the truth. It's yet another polarizing issue like gun control or abortion.
I've seen some people at least claim to be unsure.
There is some truth to manmade climate change, but the steps to fix it aren't ones anyone would do because it would cut into a lot of people's profits. No, carbon credits are just fluff that does nothing.
Sure, capitalism is ineffectual at solving the climate crisis, we knew that.
It isn't capitalism, it's a lack of regulation. Fuck off commie
why would capitalists allow regulations endangering them to be passed? don't capitalists basically control the government?
Pretty much.
incompetent idiots control the government, they're simply unaware of their incompetence a la atlas shrugged.
are they incompetent, or just cynical and intent on enriching themselves at your expense because they can?
it can be both
Global warming is a hoax made up by israelite and communists to destroy America
>Transitioning away from having a bunch of rich Arab fucks holding us by the balls is 'reddit'
This website is populated by retards who literally only think in terms of "what do redditors like and dislike?"
I unironically wish we lived in the timeline of nuclear powered cars and airplanes
>do something about the rich people who won't let us transition off fossil fuels
I find this really funny because on my side of the political spectrum it appears that rich people are forcing us to stop using fossil fuels against our will and mandating electronic vehicles. How do you not see that the establishment is on your side? What rich people are preventing us from trqnsitioning off of fossil fuels when all new vehicles must be electric in the US by 2030?
it's all lip-service. half of them are taking oil money
>You are wasting your time, retards who don't believe in climate change at this point will not be convinced
Stop that! Stop trying to discredit ideas by associating them with low-status people instead of actually refuting them, that's epistemically unvirtuous! You have no reason to do it unless you don't actually think facts and reason are on your side.
There is no "scientific consensus" and the data you are presented by the most extreme, man made climate change camp is all fake shit, all it takes is moving the measuring tool a meter closer to the nearest city every year and it gets hotter.
You are arguing on false assumptions that were presented to you by disingenuous, evil people who want to gain power by using fear and panic as a tool, there is nothing we can argue about and this is not the place for an argument anyway.
Again, how do you know this?
The climate changes. The idea that the world getting a degree hotter in a hundred years will kill billions of people or that the government can control the temperature of the world like turning the dial on a thermostat is laughably absurd.
If humans are causing the change, then they can stop causing it.
they are not in any meaningful way though retard
Then why does the overwhelming evidence say that they are?
Depends who is funding the evidence
No, the facts are the facts regardless of who's stating them. If you're right you're right and if you're wrong you're wrong, no matter who you are.
you have a ways to go.
Explain to me how what I said is wrong. How can the same statement become true or false depending on who's saying it?
you do know that data can be skewed to favor any opinion, i dont owe you any explanation, enjoy being a good bug
>i dont owe you any explanation
AKA you don't have one.
yes the simplest conclusion, keep doing that and let the media tell you what to think
>otta be litterd with the blood and ak47s of 3rd world goat herders. Angela Merkel a.k.a Miss "I'm afraid of dogs" is not my EU ally. She is globohomo matriarch and probably lesbian as well. CIA and Mossad not grassroot
Unironically start another world war.
But that might cause the end of humanity now we have nukes.
Less regulations on companies would bring forth more jobs back to America by reducing the cost of operating the business. It would bring back wealth back into American people. It would bring back prosperity. It would bring back innovation.
Break the power of financial monopolists who'd rather invest in the stock market and make money via charging fees / rents rather than investing in R&D, means of production, or other market-building investments.
>In this sense today’s rentier culture is dehumanizing. As the leadership of corporations has passed from what Thorstein Veblen called the ‘engineers’ to the financial managers, the objective is not to produce more or expand market share, but to increase the price of stocks, other securities and real estate. If executives find their self interest in ‘working for the stockholders’, it is largely be-cause they take more of their remuneration in the form of stock options than in salaries. They use corporate revenue not to fund new direct investment but to buy up their own stock to support its price. They also cut back on low-profit activities so as to increase earnings, and hence to increase the per-share price.
>The resulting ‘culture of greed’ has become anti-technological in seeking short-term payoffs. Corporate managers are rotated from one department to another, running them as autonomous profit-centers, regardless of the company’s overall long-term position. One sees in these new managers – Russia’s ‘7 bank barons’ as well as US corporate managers – an adolescent immaturity, a childish, self-centered, narcissistic lifestyle. They tend to view life as a game, which one ‘wins’ by accumulating more toys/money than one’s rivals.
https://michael-hudson.com/1998/09/financial-capitalism-v-industrial-capitalism/
>How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?
Abolish central banking and pass anti-trust laws, while simultaneously defunding and downsizing intelligence agencies and reducing federal government's power to highway management.
It's nice to read a post and be reminded "damn, there really are others out there who think exactly like me."
Unfathomably based. All these things need to happen but they really could at least actually impose the existing anti-trust legislation. There has never been more egregious examples of monopoly than today.
How about ending the War on Drugs while you're at it?
the war on drugs isn't harsh enough
What has it accomplished besides putting a bunch of people in for-profit prisons who weren't committing any violent acts?
abolish the employer-employee relationship too while you're at it or all those institutions you mentioned will be recreated within a few decades
>How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?
when climate change is behind us and we have clean scalable power generation, we will have another couple of decades of rock solid growth, because with clean power, you can just make more and more of it, that means it get's cheaper and cheaper to do things like massive desalination, desert greeting, restoring shit land to productive land, if we figure out fusion before 2050 humanity will pump like it never has pumped before, i can just imagine china mass producing fusion reactors for deployment all over the world
TND. Always TND.
Day by day, man's cosmic predicament is accepted by more and more people. Societal nihilism and pessimism will be the leading force going forward until we dwindle out or are replaced by less introspective masses.
Nature is correcting for the mistake of intelligence.
Try to make line go up (hint: you can’t).
There would need to be a radical change in world fortunes. Not necessarily glortomunism though. (I disagree with their religious autism)
It also depends on the place I think before all this mess India was feeling pretty pumped about its future.
Revive Hitler.
It would’ve been interesting to see what the world would’ve been like had they won.
Fuck that actually got me in the feels.
To think how beautiful and advanced the world could be today breaks my heart.
Soon enough the capacity for greatness will be bred out of humanity entirely and it will be as Dr. Goebbels said, eternal darkness. An unending world of mindless consumers, where chasing dopamine stimulation is the highest aspiration man is capable of expressing.
Unironically destroy monopolies. We could have so much if our beautiful Republic wasnt corrupted, like the roman republic was, by our very own praetorian guards (CIA/FBI/intel community) and degenerate political dynasties like bushes, clintons, etc. Republican ideals have died, because the Republic is not a neoliberal structure. Our local purchasing power and industrial capacity has been neutered, so we rely on the federal gov, but this makes us an American Empire, our "city on a hill" days of competition, cities with unique culture, agricultural systems have all gone away. Essentially what made the American Republic great have been stripped by modernity, our road back torn up by postmodernism and global neoliberalism. You cannot have optimism in a system that doesnt aim to improve the human condition. Like it or not, America used to be a place where the average educated person strived to IMPROVE their nation. Now, our goal os profit. Its disgusting. Globalism is a plague. There is no future, only the eternal "now" delivered unto you on an OLED screen. This is postmodernism, i encourage you, any anons, to take the time to put together some political theorizing, economic solutions to small or large problems. Now more than ever we need to draw on history to chart a path out of a hellish future.
Restore trust in the institutions, though that likely isn't possible and frankly isn't entirely desirable. They're untrusted for a reason and weren't much better in the past, the public was just ignorant of more.