How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?


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How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?

  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    By somehow making things not be fucked.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Redirecting money from subsidizing Bantus to actual productive activity would be a good start.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      more wealth is extracted from africa than is put in. obtain a cohesive materialist understanding of the world.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        No country in human history has spent more money on black people than the United States of America, and gotten 0 return for it. They should have been expatriated decades ago.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Expatriated? To?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Since you are low IQ, let me spell it out for you like a child.

        The wealth is extracted from the land.
        The land is owned by western corporations.
        The land is owned by them because they bought it
        They bought it because Africans sold it
        They sold it, willingly, because good prices were offered to them
        These corporations then hire the local blacks to work for them as labourers
        They accept because they are unemployed otherwise, and would likely be in a neo-slavery sort of situation if not a job
        They get paid by western corporations

        So western corporations are literally giving back to the blacks by giving them money for land and then employing them. They extract resources from the land, not the people. They steal nothing from the people. And if it wasn't western corporations extracting it from the land, the blacks would squat on it for an additional 10000 years. The land gets value because of western corporation. It was worthless before. You guys get paid by us. What should really happen is we should send our own workers over there so that no Black gets paid and benefits from the west. But that isn't logistically possible. So be thankful to your American overlords. If we pulled out, you guys would literally die of starvation in the coming decades. You get endless money from the so called "Extraction of wealth". And this is aside from the billions Africans receive in USAID and Aid from Europe every year. Literally the largest chunk of begging nations surviving on foreign aid. Sing praises and Glories of your western masters because of whom you are able to survive.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          africans sold it at gunpoint
          governments that refused were couped

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Resources are useless if you're not using them and nobody is buying them

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok but I don't want any of their "wealth" I just want to live in my own country with my own people.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          you're not getting any of it. the money goes straight to major shareholders of international corporations

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >more wealth is extracted
        WRONG
        the place has so little infrastructure it was actually a huge investment for imperial powers to go there, which is why they got so brutal aiming to at least break even.
        In the end world wars happened and they never fully recouped the investment.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poltrash actually believe this kek
      Such pathetic and exploitable imbeciles

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        If Black people had their way that /misc/ meme would become reality.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous
  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mid-20th century
    >optimism
    yeah maybe in some countries not mine

    >live in occupation of Russian tank
    >get v& as CIA spy for listening to West German radio
    >listen to warped propaganda in school and work about class struggle and Soviet-Lithuanian friendship and we were always part of Russia since 4000 BC
    >half your male relative taken away to work camp in Siberia to die of exhaustion, cold, and hunger
    >live in grey cinder block apartment
    >store has nothing to buy in it
    >nothing to look forward to but war with NATO

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >we were always part of Russia since 4000 BC
      Is there any truth to this?

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being so mentally weak that you're swayed by 70 year old propaganda

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The winning side of the next world war will get to experience it

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    have the glow naggers focus on love and happiness instead of cynicism, reluctant guilt and remorse, and fear mongering.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It starts small, with being optimistic in your day to day life. It gets bigger and bigger, until one fine day we will just as excited for the future as we once were.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why laugh? He's absolutely right

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop associating everything with politics and start using the propaganda machine to promote groundbreaking research.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    We are excited for the future.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be a woman though so dont get too excited.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I want to be a woman when my wife is one?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >excited for future
      >out of the trillions of new exciting possibilites created by an optimistic future this retard chooses fucking, and fucking something closer to a child than a woman
      have sex immediatly

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you encourage a pedophile to seek sex?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          the process of having (consensual) sex many times involves not being repulsive, which may help him in dropping his kiddie lust, which 100% stems from not being sucessful with women.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, there isn't a cure for pedo. It's a deeply rooted disorder.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maximizing next quarter's profits is the only thing that matters anymore. There's no room for what you're describing under the current economic paradigm.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    there needs to actually be a future
    do something about the rich people who won't let us transition off fossil fuels, and who keep squishing people between rising rents and stagnating wages

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >transition off fossil fuels

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why is that a reddit moment? Whether you think global warming is happening or not (spoiler: it is), there is only a finite amount of coal and oil buried in the earth.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Whether you think global warming is happening or not (spoiler: it is)

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >overwhelming majority of scientists
              Which are all israelite, I will never trust israelite to my last breath

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                So again, suppose it isn't happening- the coal and oil buried under the earth is still a finite quantity which will run out eventually.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Overwhelming majority of "climate scientists" i.e. a pseudo scientific fifth column, no change in the climate is outside of expectable fluctuations, ffs this is a history board so you should know there was "climate change" well before any industry was founded by humans.

              >you do know there's only a finite amount of coal and oil buried in the earth
              Windmills and solar panels dont produce enough electricity by a longshot, I am all for exciting the 19th century and using nuclear power but you green fucks refuse that too and your alternatives to fossil fuels are all shit, so thank god for those billionaires keeping the oil flowing.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, the climate has had gradual fluctuations but the RATE at which it is changing is definitely not precedented.
                Personally I think the hate for nuclear is stupid, but I understand why- people are afraid of another Chernobyl.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah its just boomers and boomer commies brainwashing zoomers to undermine western industry and its ability to defend itself from Asiatic aggression.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                And you know this how exactly?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are wasting your time, retards who don't believe in climate change at this point will not be convinced

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing to convince him, I'm arguing in the hopes of swaying any bystanders who were on the fence.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah what would we do without you, all those billion dollar media conglomerates, institutions, universities and billionaires denying climate change 24/7, we really need people like you to sway public opinion against the evil empire.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one is on the fence. You either buy the propaganda or you accept the truth. It's yet another polarizing issue like gun control or abortion.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've seen some people at least claim to be unsure.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, capitalism is ineffectual at solving the climate crisis, we knew that.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't capitalism, it's a lack of regulation. Fuck off commie

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                why would capitalists allow regulations endangering them to be passed? don't capitalists basically control the government?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty much.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                incompetent idiots control the government, they're simply unaware of their incompetence a la atlas shrugged.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                are they incompetent, or just cynical and intent on enriching themselves at your expense because they can?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                it can be both

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Global warming is a hoax made up by israelite and communists to destroy America

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Transitioning away from having a bunch of rich Arab fucks holding us by the balls is 'reddit'
        This website is populated by retards who literally only think in terms of "what do redditors like and dislike?"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >transition off fossil fuels

      I unironically wish we lived in the timeline of nuclear powered cars and airplanes

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do something about the rich people who won't let us transition off fossil fuels
      I find this really funny because on my side of the political spectrum it appears that rich people are forcing us to stop using fossil fuels against our will and mandating electronic vehicles. How do you not see that the establishment is on your side? What rich people are preventing us from trqnsitioning off of fossil fuels when all new vehicles must be electric in the US by 2030?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's all lip-service. half of them are taking oil money

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You are wasting your time, retards who don't believe in climate change at this point will not be convinced

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop that! Stop trying to discredit ideas by associating them with low-status people instead of actually refuting them, that's epistemically unvirtuous! You have no reason to do it unless you don't actually think facts and reason are on your side.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is no "scientific consensus" and the data you are presented by the most extreme, man made climate change camp is all fake shit, all it takes is moving the measuring tool a meter closer to the nearest city every year and it gets hotter.
        You are arguing on false assumptions that were presented to you by disingenuous, evil people who want to gain power by using fear and panic as a tool, there is nothing we can argue about and this is not the place for an argument anyway.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Again, how do you know this?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The climate changes. The idea that the world getting a degree hotter in a hundred years will kill billions of people or that the government can control the temperature of the world like turning the dial on a thermostat is laughably absurd.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically start another world war.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      But that might cause the end of humanity now we have nukes.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Less regulations on companies would bring forth more jobs back to America by reducing the cost of operating the business. It would bring back wealth back into American people. It would bring back prosperity. It would bring back innovation.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Break the power of financial monopolists who'd rather invest in the stock market and make money via charging fees / rents rather than investing in R&D, means of production, or other market-building investments.

    >In this sense today’s rentier culture is dehumanizing. As the leadership of corporations has passed from what Thorstein Veblen called the ‘engineers’ to the financial managers, the objective is not to produce more or expand market share, but to increase the price of stocks, other securities and real estate. If executives find their self interest in ‘working for the stockholders’, it is largely be-cause they take more of their remuneration in the form of stock options than in salaries. They use corporate revenue not to fund new direct investment but to buy up their own stock to support its price. They also cut back on low-profit activities so as to increase earnings, and hence to increase the per-share price.

    >The resulting ‘culture of greed’ has become anti-technological in seeking short-term payoffs. Corporate managers are rotated from one department to another, running them as autonomous profit-centers, regardless of the company’s overall long-term position. One sees in these new managers – Russia’s ‘7 bank barons’ as well as US corporate managers – an adolescent immaturity, a childish, self-centered, narcissistic lifestyle. They tend to view life as a game, which one ‘wins’ by accumulating more toys/money than one’s rivals.
    https://michael-hudson.com/1998/09/financial-capitalism-v-industrial-capitalism/

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?
    Abolish central banking and pass anti-trust laws, while simultaneously defunding and downsizing intelligence agencies and reducing federal government's power to highway management.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's nice to read a post and be reminded "damn, there really are others out there who think exactly like me."

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfathomably based. All these things need to happen but they really could at least actually impose the existing anti-trust legislation. There has never been more egregious examples of monopoly than today.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about ending the War on Drugs while you're at it?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        the war on drugs isn't harsh enough

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What has it accomplished besides putting a bunch of people in for-profit prisons who weren't committing any violent acts?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      abolish the employer-employee relationship too while you're at it or all those institutions you mentioned will be recreated within a few decades

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we recapture the excitement and optimism for the future that existed in the mid 20th century?
    when climate change is behind us and we have clean scalable power generation, we will have another couple of decades of rock solid growth, because with clean power, you can just make more and more of it, that means it get's cheaper and cheaper to do things like massive desalination, desert greeting, restoring shit land to productive land, if we figure out fusion before 2050 humanity will pump like it never has pumped before, i can just imagine china mass producing fusion reactors for deployment all over the world

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    TND. Always TND.

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Day by day, man's cosmic predicament is accepted by more and more people. Societal nihilism and pessimism will be the leading force going forward until we dwindle out or are replaced by less introspective masses.

    Nature is correcting for the mistake of intelligence.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try to make line go up (hint: you can’t).

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    There would need to be a radical change in world fortunes. Not necessarily glortomunism though. (I disagree with their religious autism)
    It also depends on the place I think before all this mess India was feeling pretty pumped about its future.

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Revive Hitler.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It would’ve been interesting to see what the world would’ve been like had they won.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck that actually got me in the feels.
        To think how beautiful and advanced the world could be today breaks my heart.
        Soon enough the capacity for greatness will be bred out of humanity entirely and it will be as Dr. Goebbels said, eternal darkness. An unending world of mindless consumers, where chasing dopamine stimulation is the highest aspiration man is capable of expressing.

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically destroy monopolies. We could have so much if our beautiful Republic wasnt corrupted, like the roman republic was, by our very own praetorian guards (CIA/FBI/intel community) and degenerate political dynasties like bushes, clintons, etc. Republican ideals have died, because the Republic is not a neoliberal structure. Our local purchasing power and industrial capacity has been neutered, so we rely on the federal gov, but this makes us an American Empire, our "city on a hill" days of competition, cities with unique culture, agricultural systems have all gone away. Essentially what made the American Republic great have been stripped by modernity, our road back torn up by postmodernism and global neoliberalism. You cannot have optimism in a system that doesnt aim to improve the human condition. Like it or not, America used to be a place where the average educated person strived to IMPROVE their nation. Now, our goal os profit. Its disgusting. Globalism is a plague. There is no future, only the eternal "now" delivered unto you on an OLED screen. This is postmodernism, i encourage you, any anons, to take the time to put together some political theorizing, economic solutions to small or large problems. Now more than ever we need to draw on history to chart a path out of a hellish future.

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Restore trust in the institutions, though that likely isn't possible and frankly isn't entirely desirable. They're untrusted for a reason and weren't much better in the past, the public was just ignorant of more.

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