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How do we make firearms more socially acceptable outside of America?

How do we make firearms more socially acceptable outside of America?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait for societal collapse

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1/4 of Australians own guns

    1/2 of Canadians

    1/3 of Norwegians

    2/3 of Austrians

    1/3 of Swedes

    1/4 of Italians

    4/5 of Swiss

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And safest, most crime-free country in the world is Switzerland. Really to promote the message 'that gun control kills' you just have to hold up the example of Switzerland, where every house has guns, including machine guns issued to the people, and Switzerland has near zero crime.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's the caveat to Switzerland? Gun registry?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only downside to the Swiss example, is their pedantic addiction to following rules and regulations. Basically get one minor speeding ticket and a Swiss citizen could lose his gun rights for life.

          (Now there are workarounds for that too. Let's say Heinrich von Switzerland loses his gun rights? Well his parents can still buy guns (for him) his wife can still buy guns, he still inherits his family guns etc etc) the Swiss are enterprising and creative and can work around any kind of bullshit and normally thrive)

          *and at the absolute bottom line, the Swiss man can only be oppressed so much, because he also has a machine gun, to prevent such a thing, unlike the slaves and peons of the rest of the world.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only downside to the Swiss example, is their pedantic addiction to following rules and regulations. Basically get one minor speeding ticket and a Swiss citizen could lose his gun rights for life.
            THIS IS SO FUNNY TO ME, because that's exactly why it works so well in switzerland, cause they are good with regulations and making sure that they not fucked in the head or they do something about them having firearms dipshit.. You don't do that in USA and look what happens..
            You almost answered your own question of why it work so good in switzerland but not in USA? same weapons, but if you a moron they take it away 😀

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think maybe the disconnect here is that your approaching the subject from a good faith effort of trying to understand the problem and your idea of a solution. The problem that most gun owners or strict Constitutional constructionists have is that the people proposing any new regs regarding guns are absolutely disingenuous and are only looking for a hook or starting point to ultimately disarm the US citizen. You have to remember the US Constitution is a document that does not grant any rights. Rights are implied for a citizen of the US. The US Constitution is basically a list of limitations on our government so they stay in their fucking box. Which they aren't doing as of late.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I think maybe the disconnect here is that your approaching the subject from a good faith effort of trying to understand the problem and your idea of a solution.
                I AM ARGUING IN GOOD FAITH, I'M NOT ANTI GUN, and i think americans should be able to own any firearm they want. Except if they are unstable in any way, and then they shouldn't be able to.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If govt agents are unstable in any way does their monopoly on violence and arms go away? And if that is a principle to stand by how does a citizenry enforce that without arms themselves?

                You are arguing from good faith and actually hitting the root which is unstable mentally ill people need institutional help not drugs and media that glorifies an action hero. The issue is how or more importantly who determines who is unstable. So as imperfect as it is its better for unorganized crazies to have some arms than to have organized armed crazies making laws that disarm the tax payer

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The problem that most gun owners or strict Constitutional constructionists have is that the people proposing any new regs regarding guns are absolutely disingenuous and are only looking for a hook or starting point to ultimately disarm the US citizen.

                This is an absolute critical point. Gun grabbers argue that we 'must do this or that, for the children! ' but the reality is, the commies and libtards just want to disarm us completely, and each new law is one step closer to that ultimate goal.

                (While at the same time, libtards dont want themselves to be disarmed, antifa is becoming a kind of quasi government agency, always armed, but never targeted for any kind of gun control or disarmament)

                The gun control message is always about disarming the conservative traditional while male.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            switzerland it works cause they believe in freedom under responsibility. If you act the least bit irresponsible they take your fucking weapon away till you demonstrate you don't.
            USA has freedom with zero personal responsibility. In USA you can buy a weapon even if you a total fucking moron.. and lo and behold what happens sometimes..
            The logical thing.. Switzerland loves their guns but they hate stupid people having them. THAT'S WHY IT WORKS.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Basically get one minor speeding ticket and a Swiss citizen could lose his gun rights for life
            That's completely wrong. You don't. You only get an entry in your criminal record for serious crimes, like speeding twice the allowed speed.

            And safest, most crime-free country in the world is Switzerland. Really to promote the message 'that gun control kills' you just have to hold up the example of Switzerland, where every house has guns, including machine guns issued to the people, and Switzerland has near zero crime.

            >where every house has guns
            Wrong. Gun ownership is so high here because it's still a tradition to issue the service weapon to the male citizen, once he has completed his 5 months of mandatory military service. You can also decline, then your assault rifle gets stored safely at a central military storage.

            >including machine guns issued to the people
            You need a special permit to own any automatic firearms in Switzerland. It gets only issued if you have zero registered conviction.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You need a special permit to own any automatic firearms in Switzerland. It gets only issued if you have zero registered conviction.
              THIS, exactly. If you the most little bit unreliable, go fuck yourself. It's a fucking brutal weapon.. you want only the most best people to have that..
              This is what USA is missing entirely. They want the biggest the baddest the meanest. You can have that. But the more severe the weapon is, the less there has to be fucking wrong with you. Obviously. It just makes perfect sense.. you totally stable you can have the big guns.. you not, forget about it..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This is what USA is missing entirely.
                Gun buyers in the US are required to submit to a background check through the NICS.
                A prospective buyer fills out a request and the federally licensed firearms dealers relays this information to the NICS. NICS staff perform a background check to verify the prospective buyer does not have a criminal record and is not otherwise ineligible to purchase a firearm.
                The following groups are currently prohibited from owning guns:
                >Convicted felons
                >People under federal domestic restraining orders
                >People convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence crimes against victims they have been married to, lived with, or had a child with
                >People committed to a mental-health facility, or a court ruled were mentally unfit
                >Fugitives
                >People convicted of drug crimes or determined to by a court to be addicted to an illegal controlled substance

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah but they not doing it good enough. And you can clearly see they want to reduce it even further not making it more elaborate. Because still there's some people getting guns in USA that do very bad shit with it, and they look the other way, maybe they ignore what they ought to be doing. Either way there's an issue there in the checks.. That is not so much in switzerland..
                And so i say this to americans and what do they tell me.. check less, it's a crime to even check, they want to then take everything away if you check slightly more. Obviously more background checks and more rigidity in this is required, cause someone is dropping the fucking ball on this.. And again it's mostly in pistols with violent crime.. But there's a few where a TINY TINY FEW that gets to hold an rifle where they absolutely shouldn't and everything logically about those individual cases say, please don't.. And then americans go muh 2nd ammendment.. which is NOT helping the 99.99% of the ones that are good, but it helps these corrupt politicians in USA to try and do away with everything else.. Via this strawman media propaganda. Whilst ignoring almost completely the pistol background checks.. number 1 weapon of choice for criminals cause it's the one that is carried around to do crime.. The big arsenal shit stays at home it doesn't leave the home.. it's there in case someone come fuck them up..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So many B&T guns I wish I could own in their intended configuration. I hope you are stacking those beautiful machines anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >B&T
                Overpriced SCAR no one in the world uses.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And safest, most crime-free country in the world is Switzerland. Really to promote the message 'that gun control kills' you just have to hold up the example of Switzerland, where every house has guns, including machine guns issued to the people, and Switzerland has near zero crime.
        Yeah i mentioned switzerland earlier, they also have different culture about it.
        Ofcourse guns don't kill people, guns never kill people, people kill people..
        And in terms of gunviolence in general it's always pistols! IT'S ALWAYS PISTOLS, cause anyone can see if they have anything else. this is what criminals use..

        Rifles and such shit is kept at home.. or they go to firing range with it cause they love shooting it and also to stay proficient at it so if they have to use it they don't fucking miss, and they don't accidentally discharge and shit like that.
        Also people who shoot themselves, it's very often n-word children with pistols or dumb n-words who buy pistols for crime and then they don't have no training don't know how to handle it and accidentally shoot themselves whilst making some dumb videos etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >source: trust me, dude

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1/2 of canadians
      X doubt.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not half but its fairly high

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Way to go falkies! We Americans knew you guys were worth defending so we sent the British to do it!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1/4 of Australians own guns
      >1/2 of Canadians
      press x to doubt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And 8/5ths of US Southerners

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https:// worldpopulationreview. com/country-rankings/gun-ownership-by-country

      yeah nah bullshit

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not having a mass shooting weekly in America would be a start

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...diametrically opposite to reality. Mass shootings ENCOURAGE people to buy more guns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        on the other hand, people need to be made aware of the fact that a gun is a lifeless hunk of metal. just because there are mass shootings doesnt mean YOU will become possessed by your gun and also commit a mass shooting. the problem is that the majority of people lean left and the majority of leftists are activists by trade thus it is highly plausible that the vast majority of people WILL use their guns to commit crimes based on manic ideological influences alone

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        garden gnome is right. Guns sales have been record high right before biden took office and if they every try to fuck with any of them you could only imagine how many people will run to go buy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m beginning to think these orchestrators of chaos want a war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Canada ran out of pistol because of Truedope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If I owned a gun store in Canada I would take out a loan to buy as many pistols as possible now. Then once Fidel Castro's son blocks all new handgun sales I would have a large stock of grandfathered handguns I would sell with big premiums.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well this thread has been tainted, unfortunately you live in Israel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If we have all these "massacres" every day, how come 100% of the people in the rest of the world are beating down our borders to get in here?

      Do they all want to die that bad?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If we have all these "massacres" every day, how come 100% of the people in the rest of the world are beating down our borders to get in here?
        The mass shootings in USA are overblown, around 8k in total people are killed by gunviolence or something like that in USA.. in an entire year, so gunviolence is a nothing burger in general for most people. And it's almost 90+% it's gangs shooting eachother or bystanders by mistake.

        It's overblown media propaganda.. 99.99% of US gun owners own rifles not pistols cause they not walking around with them, they have them in their home in case some dumb shit happens. home invasion etc. PISTOLS are the culprit of gunviolence they are for walking around with and pulling up on someone and going POW POW POW..
        Even in driveby shootings they use pistols almost all the time, held sideways for real n-word effect so they miss half their shots.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but don't tell the media that.
          .000071% of the total American population is killed by guns each other. Of those, over half are suicides. Of the remaining deaths, 80% of intentional homicides with firearms are committed by a n-word against another n-word.
          Literally less than 2000 people are killed a year by non-n-words and guns each year.
          You have a better chance of being beaten to death than shot.
          When I was in Scandanavia, everyone kept asking me about guns. And having had grown up with one under my bed since I was 6 (I grew up in a shit big city), I was blown away by the ignorance towards guns, with the exception being in Norge and Suomi, where the people are more rural and have hunted for a long time.
          They couldn't fathom a right guaranteeing you self protection from the state.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >When I was in Scandanavia, everyone kept asking me about guns. And having had grown up with one under my bed since I was 6 (I grew up in a shit big city), I was blown away by the ignorance towards guns, with the exception being in Norge and Suomi, where the people are more rural and have hunted for a long time.
            >They couldn't fathom a right guaranteeing you self protection from the state.
            You probably were in copenhagen weren't you?
            Most danes know intrinsically and understand how it's important to be able to defend yourself. You ran into the dumbest ones as a tourist it's often like that..

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This was all over Norge, Sverige, Danska, and Fingolia. Usually in the cities. Oddly enough, the only people who defended guns were all the sand coons and mudslimes, which I saw a lot of.
              The govt and the global media legit think we are all retards who willfully eat up all the lies the spit to craft emotionally charged narratives.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Crazy how city hellholes with the most gun restrictions constantly have gun violence. I'm sure all those guns were legally obtained and in the owners' hands. Gangs are notorious for their paperwork and ability to follow the law.

            Indeed.
            I give them the "target shooting and hunting are nice, but I bought these guns to kill those that would harm me, uniformed or otherwise".
            Tends to stop the conversation, which, with these people, is exactly what I want.

            I encountered this in a gun store once and it really freaked me out. Guys adorned in gear and talking about these weapons and how they want them all only to look at you crazy if you want to actually defend yourself with them. Even talking to them about concealed carrying you can tell they get nervous.

            True. If Bezos, Zuckemberg and Bill Gates teamed up and made their own nukes I would support owning them. It starts with banning of automatic weapons, then "High capacity" (aka ten rounds or more) semi automatics, then all semi automatics, then all "high caliber" (basically anything above 22) guns, then all 22 guns, then even all black powder guns, then crossbows, then regular bows, then even kitchen knives and eventually probably even slings.

            At least we're able to make weaponry that would be unobtainable even 100 years ago with stuff we can have in our garages.

            We'll be here before long, at least until they ban locks and sticks.

            >now they can't steal stick
            kek everytime.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah but don't tell the media that.
            >.000071% of the total American population is killed by guns each other. Of those, over half are suicides. Of the remaining deaths, 80% of intentional homicides with firearms are committed by a n-word against another n-word.
            >Literally less than 2000 people are killed a year by non-n-words and guns each year.
            I know, i read same statistics as you. It's like, i have this mindset about it. They really think everyone is idiots, not only do they think americans are idiots but they think the entire world who has access to same data are idiots aswell.
            They do expect a lot of americans to be idiots they really do. There is no problem with gunviolence in general, secondly there is no problem with assault rifles whatsoever in terms of killings, it's mostly pistols. There's not a problem with police officers killing black people either.. It's all a total fraud.. 1000+ people killed by police each year, 3-400 of those n-words.. out of those maybe a handful of cases are questionable. out of those handful maybe 1 or 2 is police misconduct. So what have i just said. USA police are not a) killing almost anyone.. out of the 10+ million arrests.. annually.. And of those they fire upon it's almost always justifiable. In such a big country with that much shit going on are you going to find 5-10 cases where you can alledge police misconduct.. Yeah.. does that mean there's a problem, no only an individual problem with those police officers and cases.. it's almost nothing.. and they still have BLM riots for an entire year.. If you outlaw lies there's a lot of problems that go away immediately. Because lies are not subjective they are either you adhere to the mathematical and statiscal evidence or you don't. It's why math is so important.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Unironically defund the police. Bring those rookie numbers up.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See media does this it takes a few cases and hype them up for days and weeks. Do you think the OTHER CASES in the statistics did not happen.. no they are just not reported and hyped up like that. This presents the ILLUSION that there's a general problem cause they keep talking about it..
            And they keep talking about it because they want PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION.. you need to understand there is a problem, so you say what are they going to do about it and they offer a solution (this is what they ultimately want) to something that is not even a problem.. It's PROPAGANDA, it's a method of getting what you want is pretend it is a problem till people say okay this is a problem what are they going to do about it! present what you wanted to do all along.

            This is why math and logic is important, when they understand math and statistics aka the general situation overall, they understand the difference between media propaganda and reality. To the degrees they don't, the public is easily manipulated. Few things are under attack more in US school system than mathematics. Where i come from math is what we value most, math and logic. is like this is the most important thing in our school system the foundation for understanding anything else. In USA this is directly under attack in the school system, lowered requirements and all this.. Why. When these kids go out and become adults. The politicians and media can LIE TO THEM and they are inept to tell what is actually happening. THAT IS WHY!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just showing how they work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based firearm instructor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      glowies likely to encourage people to mass shoot people

      if you dont have a deepstate like them where in every 5 minutes a new conspiracy theory borns, you are safe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh mass shootings
      They're all false flags

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh mass shootings
        >They're all false flags
        Well it's lies, because if you look at official sites that ostensibly try to track gunviolence in USA the little there even is.. mass shootings as defined by 3-4 people shot at injured wounded or killed. It's going around a lot. It's how the media covers it that is different.. Notice how in wake of all this they started saying mass shooting this and that.. there's not really that much gunviolence in USA.. has more guns than people 99.99% of US gunowners have the rifles and big arsenal at home.. who goes around kill people it's pistols 😀 i know it's like here he goes saying it again for the millionth time i get it. DO YOU? 😀
        you buy a pistol to go KILL SOMEONE WITH.. because you buy a rifle it stay at home with you and it barely even leaves the home.. that's what that is for.. someone coming to kill you, you reign fire.. that's it, you going to fuck me up in my own home, get fucked.. But i don't go around with pistol, unless concealed carry which is an regulated process. Which means anyone who don't obtain a sidearm, a pistol for such purposes, they probably going to do crime with it.. cause they want to walk around with it. NOBODY BUY PISTOL FOR HOME DEFENSE, unless they are literally retardbrain.. why you want a pistol for that.. it's STUPID it's so inferior weapon to defend yourself with, a sidearm or a pistol is an up and go weapon.. and it can surprise someone cause they can't see you have it.. is why criminals use it..
        Someone walking around with a rifle the police is already called there's no surprise there.. And imho this walking around with rifles.. you should call the police, it's ridiculous to walk around with bazooka or walk around with a rifle.. look. what are you doing. Unless you stationary and protecting property, call the fucking police.. because THAT'S WHAT the purpose of those firearms are for. Or you going to fight someone who also has them, load up.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's so inferior weapon to defend yourself with
          Is it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ofcourse you can kill someone with a pistol, but it's very inferior for home defense.. if you have a pistol for home defense and the few rounds and you have the bullets stashed away in another place. And you are american. You really just not very interested in staying alive.. The reason for the bigger ones is so even if there comes 3 guys and they have a pistol, you can rain fire.. neutralizing their numerical advantage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Everything i dont like is an orchestrated false flag to install le illuminati nwo agenda
        The mentally ill incels guide to political discussion. Every other developed country has basic gun regulations and doesn’t have these problems, fucking retarded hick.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The mentally ill incels guide to political discussion. Every other developed country has basic gun regulations and doesn’t have these problems, fucking retarded hick.
          switzerland which i'm ancestry of, have even more crazy guns they can legally own than americans. here's the difference. If there's even the slightest wrong with your mental state.. you can forget about it. if you totally sober decent all your friends family neighbourghood know you you can own a fucking weapon that can turn them into swiss cheese in 2 seconds.. automated rifle.. now that's an insane weapon, forget the semi auto.. But who gets to have that. Someone who is crystal clear sober.. and they don't plan to use it, it's more of like i can have this weapon.. and it's totally insane i know that, but it's kind of cool that i can have it.. you going to fuck me up and rob my house? HECK NO.. very low crime when they know that 😀
          BUT what is the difference.. the more powerful weapon you can own, the more integrity check you need to have.. Freedom under RESPONSIBILITY.. not freedom cause just it's 100% or nothing.. You really don't know people very well if you think just everyone can legally and should legally obtain even the most high grade weaponry. NO.. you don't want criminals goons and robbers and murderers to have it, but you want good people being able to defend themselves against such people to HAVE EXACTLY THAT.. so they are so AFRAID to ever commit this serious crime that they say i find somewhere else..

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most high grade weaponry
            They took that away, no legal full autos without a lot of rigamarole.
            Look, citizens should be able to answer force from their enemies with equal force.
            Right now, as I see it our enemies are:
            >government
            >n-words
            >warwick davis
            >everyone else
            We've already lost full autos, we can't let it go any further.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They took that away, no legal full autos without a lot of rigamarole.
              There was swiss in this thread that said they can obtain that but they have to have no criminal record and no nothing wrong with them. Which is perfectly understandable.
              You don't get to just have that unless you pass every single fucking checkmark that needs to be checkmarked, what you can do with such a weapon.. And imagine if USA the 100%'ers no regulation of any kind was still with the full auto it means any n-word lunatic can have it. Imagine the fucking shootouts in chicago 😀

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't get to just have that unless you pass every single fucking checkmark that needs to be checkmarked
                Same here, and you also have to have a shitload of money.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Retarded schizo babble. But i’ll address one point:
            swiss gun laws are much stricter than American gun laws. There are extensive background checks, wait periods, and licensing processes that swiss gun owners need to get through before purchasing AR-15 style rifles. These regulations are completely absent in most of America, and the existing regulations often aren’t enforced.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
              Tough shit tranny

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >well regulated
                Can you read? Are you ok?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Regulation correlates with infringment, the right to keep and bear shall not be infringed.
                What it actually means is regular maintenance, meaning the arms need to be adequate to combat tyranny. A well regulated militia.

                Dunce

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What it actually means is regular maintenance
                That’s not what it means, hence why Americans have never been able to own bombs and military drones. There has always been regulation of weapons in this country. You dont know anything about the American constitution, just like all of the libertarian larping retards on this site. I bet you think that taxation is “unconstitutional”.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but-but-but-
                And that's why we call it Zog, clown
                I'm done

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >swiss gun laws are much stricter than American gun laws. There are extensive background checks, wait periods, and licensing processes that swiss gun owners need to get through before purchasing AR-15 style rifles. These regulations are completely absent in most of America, and the existing regulations often aren’t enforced.
              well exactly.. and that's what the problem is.
              >Retarded schizo babble.
              well it's not then is it.. very disingenuous of you to say that.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Is this an "ar-15 style rifle" to you, anon?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mini-14 is a semi-auto rifle which fires .556/.223 and can hold 30 rounds, so yes. I have one but i live in a state with good gun laws so i went through extensive background checks and mine can only hold 10 rounds. As a result of our strict gun laws, we dont have regular shootings unlike conservative shithole America.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You missed the point completely. Well done.
                > As a result of our strict gun laws, we dont have regular shootings unlike conservative shithole America.
                kek u tried/10

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. My state has low gun violence rates because of our strict laws, your flyover southern shitholes get shot up everyday.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Define "Firearm Death". In my red state many of the firearm deaths are dumbass n-words that tried to do a home invasion and took a shotgun blast to the face when they kicked the door in.
                Losts of "firearm deaths" are justified homicides when a criminal decided to be stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My state has low gun violence rates
                >Posts firearm death rates

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Family_Foundation
                > it is no longer a foundation or a family foundation
                Yea that's a 50 million dollar gnomish lobby group.
                I can just tell now, my J dar too strong for you garden gnome

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Family_Foundation
                > it is no longer a foundation or a family foundation
                Yea that's a 50 million dollar gnomish lobby group.
                I can just tell now, my J dar too strong for you garden gnome

                every single time.
                >lobby group
                >pretty graph
                >misconstrued data
                >appeal to authority of other lobby groups in cluster

                There is no "gun death", that's an undefined term. Straight away this is evident.
                Why not write in plain English? ah because they want to use a loaded term to conceal the methodology.

                Why color a graph where the variance isn't statistically significant?
                I can guarantee that 7-20 isn't significant, that's chance.

                Why fail to include the most basic information in the graph like the date the data was taken from?
                Is this dated or do they want it to be confused in the future?

                This is not the work of scientists, it's properganda and I smell it from a mile off

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >thinking you can’t buy a gun “illegally” in a country with 400,000,000 of them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                350 million plus registered handguns.
                REGISTERED handguns.
                Countless rifles, shotguns, and so on.

                Thats without black market suppliers coming in if the USA actually did a gun ban of any kind. Always love the idea of gun bans in the USA 200+ years late.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shabbos goy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How can you look at the far-right shithole that America is and say
            >i want policies that those retards have!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >far-right shithole that America is
              AHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck I wish the USA was ever even for a short time anything approaching "far right" at the federal level.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s how normal people from Europe view America. You’re a mentally ill hick who hasn’t left his state so you dont know this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please elaborate on what policies the USA is currently engaged in approaches anything near what would be called "far right" even by yuropeans. By all means.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Complete absence of a social safety net
                Cheap public college and healthcare
                Strong separation of church and state
                Better gun laws
                More socially progressive
                Better wage and labour laws
                Police force that doesn’t kill and brutalize people everyday

                I could go on for hours but it would never get through your white trash brain, just keep kissing that dumbass flag of yours cleetus.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wasted digits, but nothing you listed would be considered "far right" anon.
                I asked for you to give examples of anything the feds were doing that would be considered far right. Instead you gave me a reddit post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Braindead white trash hick babble
                You people are hopeless. Thank fuck I’m getting out of this shithole next year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, are you ok? It was a simple request. I get you're retarded based on

                >What it actually means is regular maintenance
                That’s not what it means, hence why Americans have never been able to own bombs and military drones. There has always been regulation of weapons in this country. You dont know anything about the American constitution, just like all of the libertarian larping retards on this site. I bet you think that taxation is “unconstitutional”.

                but you might want to take a break and get a drink or something.
                >Thank fuck I'm getting out of this shithole next year.
                But I thought you didn't live in a somehow southern and flyover state at the same time? Hmm.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Thank fuck I’m getting out of this shithole next year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No shit. Late 1700's maybe? At least back then politicians could say "White" without following it with "terrorists".

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because i value civil freedom you little rat. Now do the pilpul shtick

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you trying to say America has a n-word problem?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well then we need to get rid of the n-words and garden gnomes then.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    incidentally it's the US that's ruining them everywhere by stylizing them as a phallus prosthesis

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >incidentally it's the US that's ruining them everywhere by stylizing them as a phallus prosthesis
      Yeah, you don't see shit like this in switzerland for example, anyone of sound mind and with ofcourse background checks and such can own a firearm.. You don't see shit like that in switzerland. Cause they not over the top like they need to own insane weapons like americans are.. But they do own weapons and rifles and shit powerful enough to stop multiple assailants.. It's a very secure society because of that.
      First off all it's very snobby country with extremely wealthy and polite people people but they all have guns.. so nobody going to fucking do anything.. unless they idiots, they might even kick them out of the country if they cause too much issues.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah, you don't see shit like this in switzerland for example, anyone of sound mind and with of course background checks and such can own a firearm.. You don't see shit like that in switzerland. Cause they not over the top like they need to own insane weapons like americans are.

        You are a weird propaganda bot posting not only lies, but perfect 100% counter factual lies. Swiss own military grade machine guns, while we Americans are limited to civilian grade SEMI automatic rifles.

        >Danes own guns
        >Yeah but we own guns for hunting and stuff, ... but we can't own high capacity military grade rifles and shotguns and shit like that.

        Neither can we (Americans) which you a liar say we have. But who does have military grade rifles? The Swiss, the people with the safest country in the world while the rest of Europe is getting raped and killed by violent migrant n-words.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You are a weird propaganda bot posting not only lies, but perfect 100% counter factual lies. Swiss own military grade machine guns, while we Americans are limited to civilian grade SEMI automatic rifles.
          YES and why do you not see switzerland having cases where lunatics go around shooting people up like this. Cause you can own the most insane weapons in switzerland, BUT IF THEY SUSPECT YOU EVEN REMOTELY irresponsible, now you can't anymore till you come to your senses..
          In USA if someone is a loon you don't take their weapon away. In switzerland it's over the slightest.. THIS IS WHY IT WORKS IN SWITZERLAND AND NOT IN USA.. cause if someone is a loon, americans don't say 'take his fucking gun away till he's not'..
          It's not a lie you are the fraud here.. and it's based on a misunderstanding you have of why it works in switzerland. And you even answered yourself why it works in switzerland. They sticklers with regulation, you do even the slightest dumb shit it can impact if you can have a firearm or not.. If you totally responsible and totally sober and sound mind, you can own a fucking military grade machinegun and the swiss are like, it's cool cause we trust you with that.. And the MOMENT WE DON'T.. you going to have that taken away..

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said, you are just a weird propaganda bot, probably some kind of ai program that just spams out anti-gun talking points. If you are a real person, enjoy your life in denmark. I understand it's getting slowly overrun with migrants who will probably rape you to death.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Like I said, you are just a weird propaganda bot, probably some kind of ai program that just spams out anti-gun talking points. If you are a real person, enjoy your life in denmark. I understand it's getting slowly overrun with migrants who will probably rape you to death.
              no i disagree with you that there should be no regulation and i say that like the swiss that if you even remotely a weird dumbass unreliable you can't own firearms. If you are totally sober everything decent, you can own the most insane weapons you can imagine. And as you say nothing happens in that regard in switzerland. Don't want to give US ideas that they send CIA homosexuals and do some shit in switzerland to say it doesn't work anywhere cause look this loon did something there too.

              No i'm NOT ANTI GUN AT ALL, and i said consistently that the problem is NOT rifles like AR 15 etc. and i said if you want to stop gunviolence in USA it's pistols, and those who obtain those you need to look at, cause that's the murder weapon of choice cause you buy it to WALK AROUND WITH IT..
              rifles and crazy shit that's for keeping in your house in case some dumbass thinks he going to go into your house and come fuck your shit up.

              Where do you get this nonsense that i'm anti gun.
              No i think you should be able to own the most insane gun in the world.. BUT if you unreliable you can't.. THAT'S MY ONLY RESERVATION, and you sit and idolize switzerland but you don't want to do what they do. Which is really kind of fucking stupid if you think about it, cause their way works and yours doesn't. And what the difference is is, you a loon, no firearm for you.. you not, okay here you fucking go.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All or nothing retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >All or nothing retard
                And that's what is a problem, because you defend criminals cause they get to have them too and you make no difference between them and totally harmless law abiding citizens.. But that is the mindset and that is american mindset and i hope you figure it out and it turns out rosey for you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would the same government that wants mentality ill people to shoot up schools take their guns away? They spent a lot of time and money to groom them to do their bidding.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why would the same government that wants mentality ill people to shoot up schools take their guns away? They spent a lot of time and money to groom them to do their bidding.
              This is also the thing, almost all the shooters are mentally ill, there has been arabic shooters, black shooters, latino shooters euro american shooters. They all have something very clearly in common, very very mentally disturbed..
              That they even have to use this as excuse to take guns away from 99.99% of US gun owners who do nothing illicit with them, is really something where there's foul play going on.. Doesn't mean you need to double down give all criminals more guns, no think about what is it specific they are trying to get rid of.
              This is also what annoys me. The deception in which this is sought to take place. Really you can't say to americans that they probably shouldn't have in all cases unless they are totally stable have this and that type of gun. You want to lie to them, make these shootings propaganda to have excuse to do it.
              It's almost as if they are like "americans are dumb motherfuckers, if we just try explain to them rationally and logically why it needs to be somewhat restricted to only decent people have guns, THEY WILL NEVER DO IT, so we have to LIE AND TRICK THEM WITH PROPAGANDA" and all that does with these low iq morons having that idea to do that is it makes you MORE SUSPICIOUS and you double down.. cause you smell foul play a mile away.. these people are morons trying to do it this way. The conversation should be in a totally different way than this trickery or deception if you ever want to do this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Neither can we (Americans) which you a liar say we have. But who does have military grade rifles? The Swiss, the people with the safest country in the world while the rest of Europe is getting raped and killed by violent migrant n-words.
          Exactly. Swiss are everything how americans want to be with guns. And you keep denying why it work in switzerland. Cause if you the least bit dumbass this has implications of your gun ownership.. AND THIS IS HOW IT WORKS SO WELL. if you totally sound mind decent person, you can own the most crazy fucking weapon 😀 THIS IS ALL AMERICANS WANT, without doing what it takes to have that situation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            americans had legal access to machineguns for 50 straight years and only 2 of the 3 lawfully owned machineguns used in any crimes were used by cops. civilian machinegun ownership was benign and successful and the registry only got closed because n-words started arming up and fighting back.

            read a book

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >americans had legal access to machineguns for 50 straight years and only 2 of the 3 lawfully owned machineguns used in any crimes were used by cops. civilian machinegun ownership was benign and successful and the registry only got closed because n-words started arming up and fighting back.
              n-words fighting back by killing eachother?
              And yes, the legal gun owners even with very devastating weapons was virtually non existent. The entire campaign against assault rifles is a total lie. Now you have to just ask yourself what is the motivation really. Because it's not about stopping americans killing eachother or reducing gunviolence why they go for semi automatic rifles..
              You can think about that..
              >read a book
              I love books i like reading them, i also almost write books when i type is how much i love books, i like thick packets of information about what is going on about things and what people think about them, to the extent that they are decent to read and those people have something decent to say. I am a big fan of books. But first and foremost i'm a fan of math and logic above all else. Without that, there's no point of saying anything. If we are not on same page of what reality is and what is going on.. it's becomes ridiculous to even make any kind of point.
              USA media lies their ass off, the fraud they commit is also simple, it's called FRAUD BY INDUCTIVE REASONING, they take a few cases to imply something general that is not mathematically true in general.. they say euro americans they out to get everyone they killing everyone. And then they ignore the mathematical irrefutable reality that it's actually african americans and latinos and several others going around homociding.. And also they neglect which i find interesting. That latinos hate n-words in USA and are in active race war with them in their communities.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >n-words fighting back by killing eachother?
                no you fucking retard, n-words started shooting back at the KKK and open carrying weapons to deter police abuse. n-words getting organized is specifically why open carry laws were originally written, why SBRs and SBSs were added to the NFA, and why the machinegun registry was closed. do you just not know the timeline of any of our major gun laws?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no you fucking retard, n-words started shooting back at the KKK and open carrying weapons to deter police abuse. n-words getting organized is specifically why open carry laws were originally written, why SBRs and SBSs were added to the NFA, and why the machinegun registry was closed. do you just not know the timeline of any of our major gun laws?
                police abuse? give me break, the thing i see with police abuse in USA is almost all n-word propaganda and lies.. I have no reason to suspect that it is other way around in the socalled civil rights era of USA.
                And they rebelling against what, a few idiots in hoods off of catholics being upset n-words not sent back to africa and lynch 4k people in a period of 86 years. You living a lie of the black struggle to be respected. It's a black struggle to turn USA into africa and nothing else. And africa is 54 countries and 3x as big.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                im now convinced you're a bot, no human can be this incoherent and ignorant for so many posts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >im now convinced you're a bot, no human can be this incoherent and ignorant for so many posts
                Incoherent, how am i incoherent? it's ridiculous.

                >No but you can restrict it more and more
                Felons are already barred from gun ownership, any restriction you make falls on non-criminals and non-criminals alone. Your argument is that we should refine the Constitution, and there's a system for that, but it's necessarily quite difficult.

                >Felons are already barred from gun ownership, any restriction you make falls on non-criminals and non-criminals alone. Your argument is that we should refine the Constitution, and there's a system for that, but it's necessarily quite difficult.
                Is that enough that they have to go to prison to not be able to own a firearm. I've seen videos from USA where a 13 year old kid can go to a gunshow and buy a rifle without anything.
                He can't buy a pack of cigarettes, can't buy beer, 21/21.. rifle.. sure go ahead! No problem?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've seen videos from USA where a 13 year old kid can go to a gunshow and buy a rifle without anything
                Kek, "gunshow loophole" bullshit
                I thought you wanted the upstanding citizenry to be armed?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Kek, "gunshow loophole" bullshit
                >I thought you wanted the upstanding citizenry to be armed?
                Yes but only good decent people who will not use them badly. What the fuck a 13 year old kid know? maybe he going to shoot up some school cause he was bullied.. AND WHAT CAUSES THAT BTW. TOTALLY OBVIOUS.. social media, internet. The way kids bully eachother over social media, you never had that before in history. You can push someone over the fucking edge if you a group against an individual so fucking easily like it's nothing.. If they can obtain a firearm too.. what you think going to happen. Oh and they on ssri's which can induce psychotic episodes cause they disconnect with their emotions.. it's what the drugs do, so they 'feel better' cause they can't connect with their negative feelings..
                I'm going to fucking kill my classmates. LET'S FUCKING GO.. this is why nobody ever have said this before in history, because due to social media NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN BULLIED THIS SEVERELY BEFORE.. and don't pretend you don't know.. these fucking kids.. nightmare going through school with social media.. you do anything dumb they fucking on you like a wolfpack..
                So the cause of that, it's obvious..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes but only good decent people who will not use them badly. What the fuck a 13 year old kid know?
                It's how "innocent until proven guilty" generally works. Granted we've strayed from this idea here and there but the premise is well-cemented in the American consciousness.
                We have a quirk about our record systems: juvenile records are often sealed once adulthood is reached. If kids are delinquents, there's not always a way to detect that once age of majority is reached and their records get sealed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's how "innocent until proven guilty" generally works. Granted we've strayed from this idea here and there but the premise is well-cemented in the American consciousness.
                YES if they are accused of committing a crime, you can't give an irresponsible individual the power to kill 5 people in a very quick fashion. And kids have lightning speed reflexes and hand eye coordination too. And they are immature they are IMBALANCED.. due to the nature of puberty and all these things. I'd even go so far as to say of humans, you don't become a full adult untill you reach high 20's low 30's.. Only then do you even have a fucking even REMOTE GRASP of what it means to be responsible, you just pretend you do and you pretend to understand. You don't give nuclear weapons to a fucking monkey either.. You don't give powerful weapons to someone who is still trying to figure their shit out.. life is very difficult for a lot of young people.. They need to be BALANCED they need to PROVE they are balanced, and then you can talk about it, if not that then they need to be adult supervised in all cases when handling these kinds of things. So they understand consequences of their actions and this is not something to be taken lightly..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And they are immature they are IMBALANCED
                Bro, my high school had a shooting team and a gun range in the basement.
                >They need to PROVE they are balanced
                We're talking about underage people here, so that responsibility should fundamentally going to fall on the parents and not the government

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We're talking about underage people here, so that responsibility should fundamentally going to fall on the parents and not the government
                Why should daddy government help you with everything? shouldn't it be logical that they should instead pass legislation so it's unecessary that they wait till they can prove they are of a certain stable state of mind instead.. Rather than they run around with adult supervision all the time and that's how you justify it.
                And when that fails, who do you blame? haha

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why should daddy government help you with everything? shouldn't it be logical that they should instead pass legislation so it's unecessary that they wait till they can prove they are of a certain stable state of mind instead..
                These are two strictly conflicting statements.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >These are two strictly conflicting statements.
                They pass legislation so they can't be blamed is the point.. If some yahoo goes and kills people cause he shouldn't have ever been in posession of a firearm with his mental state in that situation, you say the government is at fault for why that happened and why the fuck didn't they do shit to prevent it.. majority of fucking people are like that.
                What are they saying right now. GOVERNMENT PLEASE HALP.. there's this looney tunes idiots they keep shooting up places.. it's rarely a statistical issue, but that's what they are saying, when do they take responsibility for themselves? If you don't want the state involved also you need to mandate the state so it's not involved by preempting that by saying look we can't have dumb lunatics having certain weapons.. That way the state has no excuse to take all your guns away cause some idiots crying for help about this..
                I am for gun ownership and all you get with the state is they want to take it away that's their answer to it.. cause they are run by low iq political morons who want to get elected. And they get elected by having a cause and completing that cause..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you say the government is at fault
                I don't believe I ever said that.
                >If you don't want the state involved also you need to mandate the state so it's not involved by preempting that by saying look we can't have dumb lunatics having certain weapons..
                "If you don't want the state involved, you need to involve the state."
                I'd call this utterly contradictory, but I admit there's a certain "Si Vis Pacem" aspect to it. I don't believe this to be a desirable or accurate sentiment in this case, though, because it ignores all the extant laws that are meant to filter "undesirable" gun owners, which have helped exactly nil.
                Plenty of evidence that "just accept this compromise" is NOT the end of the problem

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't believe I ever said that.
                Not you specifically but the sentiment is government is at fault what is the government going to do about it, they bring the hammer rather than a toothbrush.. and a few correcting of things.. They always overdo it ALWAYS.. especially USA.. Because the more they do the more it looks like they doing shit.. never let them navigate themselves into a position where they can drop hammer on this shit 😀 Lead them away into the park and say like look it's really not that complicated, we don't have to do all that, we only have to do so and so..
                Otherwise if you don't they will fucking smack everything down that they say this is a public issue, let's just totally get rid of that..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the thing i see with police abuse in USA is almost all n-word propaganda and lies
                Civil asset forfeiture is real.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Civil asset forfeiture is real.
                There's a lot of shit the US government and americans have gotten into. But in terms of this oh n-words just treated horribly. To any extent they do this is to stop USA from turning into africa.. And they angry that n-words are in USA.. which is btw. it's totally understandable. Give me a mathematical and logical reason why n-words should be in america in huge numbers? There is none, doesn't exist. Go and compute all the total territories of man and which type in which location.. and then say to me.. n-words in need of territory and that has to be USA where they were brought against their will and then refused to fuck off from.
                Now n-words are there to stay, but this whining of n-words is lies and propaganda and anti euro american racism basically. And any kind of euro american defense against this kind of very maliscious african rethoric in USA is revisted and revisioned as some kind of struggle and punching up..
                Africans never punched up, they are bigger colonialists by type imprint in every territorial sector on planet than european settlers. And n-words didn't even build a country at all.. they just there.
                n-words need to respect other people than themselves.. But and where were we, gunviolence in USA that it's alla bout oh everyone afraid n-words have guns. With the gunviolence blacks are responsible for they are likely to use it for violence, not so if any other race has them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are omitting the most important and blackest piece of the puzzle here

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Give me one, i'll show it off to my friends and finally stop gurdesh from shitting by my door.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're all right, poobro.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in a totally gun free country except for hunting, and i don't see the big deal with having guns for protection. Ofcourse the insane shit of having ANY type of firearm i always found ridiculous, and i think extensive background checks and routine evaluation if you are mentally okay in the head, and proficient and responsible enough to own one, should be case.
    But the paranoia about firearms i don't understand. Especially from americans which really should be used to that. For americans this should be like breathing that yeah people have firearms and you know how to handle one and you hope to never use it on anyone, but you have one in case some lunatic wants to attack you or invade your house and try and attack you and something like this.
    Self defense is such an important thing to have. The most important thing i think is the right to other people leaving you alone, it's not just the government that should be able to leave you the most alone, but it's also protection from OTHER PEOPLE so they leave you alone unless you messing with them ofcourse and then it's you that is the problem and again it's their privilige to be able to say that you should leave them the fuck alone.

    And the way that cops behaved at that uvalde shooting, if i was american and i saw that, nothing would want me to get a gun for my own protection more than that. And to have people with guns protecting kids at school, atleast a couple of people who have that situation where they can do that.
    What.. cops just going to stand outside for an hour cause they are pussies even with bodyarmor and rifles on them, that's like saying that cops don't want to protect you anyways, so it's up to you to protect yourself if you are serious about staying alive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1/3 of Danes own guns

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1/3 of Danes own guns
        Yeah but we own guns for hunting and stuff, you can get a hunting license very easy but we can't own high capacity military grade rifles and shotguns and shit like that.
        But i wouldn't particularly mind if that was the case.. As long as it's with extensive background checks and constant evaluations of that you are reasonable enough to own one.

        It's also like i get that too many guns in circulation increases gun crime, but criminals and gangs always going to have one including here..
        So if you have so many guns in circulation in USA, it's near suicide not to want to own one if you even remotely living in a gun crime area even the slightest.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shotguns are hunting weapons, clay pigeon shooting and bird hunting.
          Hunting rifles are made to kill 300-500kg animal with one shot.
          High capacity military grade rifles are made to wound 80kg human.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Shotguns are hunting weapons, clay pigeon shooting and bird hunting.
            >Hunting rifles are made to kill 300-500kg animal with one shot.
            >High capacity military grade rifles are made to wound 80kg human.
            Well it all depends on which type of shotgun etc. But shotguns in terms of defensive purposes is for close quarters down the hallway in last ditch effort, he not going to probably survive that shit..
            Rifle is for more all purpose and very precise over range. Pistol is where you carry it around. So the PISTOLS are actually the number 1 thing you want to get rid of if you want to stop gunviolence in general.
            All most all of it is pistols, it's what criminals use they can't surprise someone with a rifle you can't carry that stealthily around 😀 It's too big to be walking around with if you want to play cops and robbers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >High capacity military grade rifles are made to wound 80kg human.
            Also rifles with standard munition they pass through the body rather than get stuck in it.. cause the projectile is so fast. Pistol it's more likely to get the fucking bullet stuck in you and doing a lot of damage that way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >high capacity military grade
          Neither of those phrases are meaningful.

          >high capacity
          A magazine is just a box and a spring and most contemporary bolt action designs use them. It's a convenience feature that in no way makes getting shot any less deadly. The police are not omniscient and still will not respond in time to stop the killing.

          >military grade
          Militaries choose the bare minimum when their associated governments aren't indulging in abject corrupt behavior. Most every iteration of killing technology has been tried by militaries.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Neither of those phrases are meaningful.
            There is a difference between the ones the military has and the ones the public has.. Not in USA but in all other countries that is the case. The military has the most lethal and effective variants obviously.. And also all kinds of types of very devastating munitions for them.
            But again in terms of gunviolence it's the pistol that you need to look at who is buying them and to degrees they don't have conceal carry, ask them why they want to buy a pistol? why you want to buy a weapon you can easily conceal and walk around with! you going to want to do some crime and stuff? PROBABLY!

            It's so dumb those who think people who buy pistols to have at home for personal defense. No you buy a fucking rifle that's what you keep at your house logically. You don't want to have to reload, and you can deal with 2-3 guys going into your house trying to fuck your shit up..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ANY type of firearm
      they all shoot palms at 400 yards
      all firearms past 1950 make are ergonomically and balistically the same
      a gun is a gun

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they all shoot palms at 400 yards
        >all firearms past 1950 make are ergonomically and balistically the same
        >a gun is a gun
        How much do you know about guns at this point. There's also the different types of ammunition and things like that.
        But a rifle is not very scary in my view. The point of the rifle unless it's lunatic ammuniton is more not having to reload vs being maybe stuck at reloading if you have a tiny pistol. That's the main difference, so it's more reliable if you get attacked by multiple people for example. You don't have to worry about reloading and finding more ammunition and so on in middle of some kind of insane situation which you hopefully never get into.
        That's really the main difference between a rifle and a pistol. This is also why military uses rifles instead of a sidearm.. Cause reloading all the time is real fucking stupid, and also it's easier to aim with and things like that obviously cause of the grip and small scopes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really see rifles and shotguns as defensive weapons. Rifle for multiple assailants, shotgun for close quarters if they invading your house.. Rifle for more precision.

        Pistol i see more as an offensive weapon. If you own a pistol well it's because you want to carry it around everywhere. Most guncrime is also using pistols for that reason, cause they rob someone they pull out this gun they couldn't see they have.

        So i see rifles as more personal defense weapons than the 'attack weapons' that USA pretend they are. If you want to buy a rifle is cause you want to keep it at home same with a shotgun. If you buy a pistol it's cause you going to CARRY IT AROUND WHEREVER YOU GO.. this is more likely a crime weapon than rifles are.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shotguns are hunting weapons, clay pigeon shooting and bird hunting.
          Hunting rifles are made to kill 300-500kg animal with one shot.
          High capacity military grade rifles are made to wound 80kg human.

          oh look, a bunch of gun experts dispersing some wisdom on us

          especially fuck of with your "extensive background checks". don't you realize what that implies?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >especially fuck of with your "extensive background checks". don't you realize what that implies?
            It implies that deranged people shouldn't own large caliber weapons with huge magazines.. I totally agree with that.
            I also think there should be test every single year minimum, just like US military does, to show that you are proficient with it, you know how to handle it without accidental discharge and all that.. And if you start becoming a weirdo look you need to unweirdo yourself and then you can own one again..

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hey anon we found your post on LULZ, unfortunately we are putting you on a white nationalist terror watchlist and you can never own guns again

              Fuck your bullshit background checks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fuck your bullshit background checks
                That's not a justifiable reason to own a firearm to say they don't like your politics. They have to demonstrate that you are wanting to do violence with it.
                Americans you seem to think any regulation means they going to take everything away. No regulation in media no regulation in speech no regulation of firearms at all. Unironically you just giving criminals the guns and it's mostly pistols and you refuse to even ask them what you want to use this pistol for you don't have a concealed weapons permit.. Are you sure you don't want a rifle to keep at home instead. NO i want only pistol.. HMM INTERMERESTING MUH bro.. tell me more, we need to talk about this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They will absolutely use red flag laws to disarm their political opponents. Guaranteed just posting on this website will be considered a red flag. Your from Denmark. Do you trust the CIA? NSA? FBI? DEA? You don't have to live with these fuckers and I bet your scared of them. Every US government agency has been weaponized and set loose on its citizens.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They will absolutely use red flag laws to disarm their political opponents. Guaranteed just posting on this website will be considered a red flag. Your from Denmark. Do you trust the CIA? NSA? FBI? DEA? You don't have to live with these fuckers and I bet your scared of them. Every US government agency has been weaponized and set loose on its citizens.
                If they are profiling political opponents there's such a fucking easy case for some garden gnome lawyer to go to court with anybody who experience that. You worry about nothing in that regard but is just excuse for lack of regulation that doesn't really help you. You don't want dumbass n-words to own pistols who shouldn't, and they use that to incriminate gun owners in general because you don't want bad apples to be sorted away via proper regulation and background checks.

                A fucking woman got 5.7 million dollars from geico cause her bf gave her HPV.. what the fuck you think a garden gnome lawyer going to do if someone can prove that he is withheld from holding a firearm cause he's white and republican and for no other reason. HE GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY with a class action lawsuit, no garden gnome going to pass on that kind of payday!

                And again it's pistols that are the main problem and n-words and others obtaining those for crime.. rifles are kept in peoples fucking houses and don't see any fucking use outside of a firing range, or if they are used, it's crystal clear that some dumbass was breaking into his fucking house trying to fuck him up.. and he got what he was asking for.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If they are profiling political opponents there's such a fucking easy case for some garden gnome lawyer to go to court with anybody who experience that.
                You have more faith in our justice system than even the most lead-addled boomer.
                It's actually impressive.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You have more faith in our justice system than even the most lead-addled boomer.
                >It's actually impressive.
                Look, you are fabricating that they going to take everything away if it is regulated a tiny bit. The reality is.. 5.7 million dollars from geico cause some bitch got hpv from a boyfriend.. the reality is ridiculous litigious nature of the US justice system.. If there's anything that you can prove that they say they have legislation to prevent criminals or morons and lunatics from obtaining firearms.. and they try to say you can't have one cause you are 'white' and republican and for no other reason. You going to have a fucking field day in court with some garden gnome lawyer who going to jump on that shit!

                I don't have faith in american justice system, from a position of doing the right thing, but i have faith in someone wanting to make a fuckton of money off of trying to do that kind of shit, because of how fucking slamdunk and easy it would be.. You and them would be set for life..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Look, you are fabricating that they going to take everything away if it is regulated a tiny bit.
                It's already started. The camels nose is under the tent, we're just trying to keep him from getting all the way inside.
                As far as someone profiting from defending people against political persecution, ask the boomers sitting in jail right now how that's going. Sure, the lawyers might be getting rich, but it isn't doing their clients any good. I see no reason at all to believe the result would be any different if the charge was 'owning a gun while liking Hitler'.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a slippery slope fallacy. The keep it all unregulated, switzerland is an example of how it works very effectively. I know there is a push to take guns away from specifically white americans, but stop trying to be falsely associated with n-word pistol slinging criminals and if you get rid of those with the background checks, and it's clearly evident rifles are not a problem with gunviolence.. then this only helps you.. But i get what you are saying, you are suspicious and paranoid, and i'm not saying that's completely unfounded, but maybe a little bit.. But it's clear what they trying to do with the semi auto rifles.. which are not an issue.. and presedence builts on presedence and all this shit you trying to imply.
                But you need regulation so that you get to own the weapons you want cause you not a lunatic, and others don't.. You not going to do bad shit they stay at your house..
                It's the pistol walkers that are the problems with homocides.. why you want to buy a pistol is cause you walk around with it.. and them associating that with gunviolence and saying then all guns are bad to have excuse to go after you for owning rifles is not helping you to not dissasociate yourself from the lunatics who buy guns to kill people with. And those who buy guns to kill people with offensively, it's pistols.. AND THE US GOV KNOW THAT.. they know that, the nancy pelosi all these they know that.. they also know it's n-words overwhelmingly and some latino gangs but they not going to say that cause they the ones who vote for them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's a slippery slope fallacy.
                I remain unconvinced that it's a fallacy in this case.
                Here's the thing you keep coming back to: make sure lunatics don't get guns. This is a sound position. No one is saying that upon getting out of Bellvue you should be issued a pistol.
                The problem is, who decides what constitutes "lunacy"?
                Will they include White Nationalist beliefs as a sign of lunacy? Racism? It's seen that way by a whole lot of people. Witness the "Racism is America's Biggest Health Threat" type stories.
                If you think they wouldn't like to try, then you're either impossibly naive or being dense on purpose.
                As for the "pistolwalkers", I am a pistolwalker. I carry a handgun when I leave the house. I'm of the "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" school of thought. My headmasters at that school were n-words, spics and other violent types. No amount of legislation will make them give up their guns so to legislate my gun away would be putting me at risk.
                Paranoid? Maybe, but even paranoids have enemies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I remain unconvinced that it's a fallacy in this case.
                It is because regulation is good in switzerland and other places that have that.. You don't want dumbasses to have too much powerful weapons.. if you want to handle high grade weaponry for defense, you need to prove there's nothing the fuck wrong with you so you don't misuse it..
                USA entire philosophy of this is the logical fallacy of slippery slope, that it's going to end up that they have nothing.. 100% to 0% it's all or nothing, it's binary thinking that plagues the american mind. You don't want lunatic n-words being associated with you, but you have that when you don't say different strokes for different folks.. So the quagmire you land yourself in is that either n-words and any criminal or lunatic can have everything and so can the best and nicest of americans, or you presume all can have nothing. They LOVE YOU these criminals and all this shit, cause they get to do bad shit and then you take the blame by association because you refuse to say there's good folks and they should be allowed to have whatever they want, and then there's lunatics and dumbasses and we don't want them to have even a fucking pistol..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK, being dense on purpose it is.
                I tried.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OK, being dense on purpose it is.
                >I tried.
                I'm really not trying to be obtuse, and i'm sorry if it came across that way, i try to be very as sincere as possible. Help me what part we are talking past eachother on.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Help me what part we are talking past eachother on
                OK, I'll try, but if you come back with more shit about increased background checks I'm going to stick an umbrella up your ass and open it.
                You seem to believe that the illegal gun toting n-words will somehow comply with the law.
                They won't.
                Any attempt to expand the background checks will be used to decrease legal gun ownership by classifying political dissidents as somehow unable to own a gun.
                To sum it up:
                >more background checks will only harm people trying buy a gun legally
                >n-words don't buy their guns legally.
                Get it?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >OK, I'll try, but if you come back with more shit about increased background checks I'm going to stick an umbrella up your ass and open it.
                Okay for the sake of our argument i won't do that then 😀 i want to but i don't want umbrella up my ass obviously.
                You seem to believe that the illegal gun toting n-words will somehow comply with the law.
                They won't.
                >Any attempt to expand the background checks will be used to decrease legal gun ownership by classifying political dissidents as somehow unable to own a gun.
                I strongly disagree, because they are not even attacking the class or race of the person, they are going right after AR 15's and semi auto RIFLES with large magazines.. almost claiming that it's the gun itself that is going around doing the killing. And almost nobody gets killed by those weapons in USA. They tie that falsely into gunviolence in general which is almost always pistol related in terms of homocides..
                As for criminals don't obtain their guns legally. Oh i know that, but more background checks on pistols can render that you can trace them to black market or stolen or 'missappropriated'.. And it leads to the crime gangs.. Why do you not want that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                denmark bro, look, we're just not doing the gun control. i know, i know, but we're just not doing it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >denmark bro, look, we're just not doing the gun control. i know, i know, but we're just not doing it.
                I know, it's okay.. you do it your way obviously, it's what americans do, they do it their way, it's what you do. It's not always to your benefit. But if there's something true about americans. you really do do it just whatever the fuck way you want, so i hope it works out and you figure it out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And i appreciate our conversation. And you have the american way, and i try to say this might be better. But i'm small and you are big and i get that.. At the end of day i can just say maybe try this, and you can say fuck you fucking little insect.. And it's not good to be that arrogant and then be wrong about so many things, but that's a thing that americans have. They have a kiss my ass card.. you can say is that good or bad, i'd say it's overwhelmingly bad how little they listen to other suggestions who say things that are unironically to their benefit. But american arrogance is a thing and it's very big and a source of many problems that really doesn't have to be a problem. BUT IT CAN BE.. cause americans want it to be one.. just because..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think a lot of it has to do with the manner of this country's creation.
                Think of places like Australia or Canada. Both colonies at one time, just like the US was. But while we forced the issue of independence, they were granted it. Centuries of monarchies in the rest of Europe had the same effect on a lot of those countries as well.
                This creates a difference; a certain tolerance for the flavor of boot, as it were.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck off Eurotrash before we squash you like a cockroach.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fuck off Eurotrash before we squash you like a cockroach.
                Well there, exactly. And is what i say bad for you, no.. shut up i don't want what is good for me, how fucking dare you.. 😀
                And you could probably very easily, how does that help you though?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SILENCE PASTRY n-word

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >SILENCE PASTRY n-word
                But you do like the pastry though.. you can't deny..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but more background checks on pistols can render that you can trace them to black market or stolen or 'missappropriated'.
                My umbrella is right over there in the closet, guy. Don't make me get it out. 🙂
                OK, your above statement, while seeming reasonable, wouldn't even come into force until after a crime had been committed.
                >dead guy on ground
                >well, at least we know who the gun was stolen from
                >dead guy on floor gives thumbs-up

                > because they are not even attacking the class or race of the person
                Yet. They aren't doing this yet.
                I'll give you a real-life example of how this has worked in the past.
                homosexualry used to be illegal in a lot of places. It was classified as a mental illness (because it is). Over time, not because of new knowledge. but because of political pressure, it was removed from the list of mental illnesses and became a lifestyle.
                If you think they won't try this kind of maneuvering to eliminate certain people from owning a gun, then I don't know what to tell you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My umbrella is right over there in the closet, guy. Don't make me get it out. 🙂
                Yeah i kind of did it again didn't i. I can't lie about this cause my arguments are based on truth as far as i can ascertain it. It's very difficult for me to not take that umbrella up my ass a little bit 😀
                >homosexualry used to be illegal in a lot of places. It was classified as a mental illness (because it is). Over time, not because of new knowledge. but because of political pressure, it was removed from the list of mental illnesses and became a lifestyle.
                As delicately as i can at all put it, nobody will ban guns from someone cause they homosexual or anything else like that..
                It's really like the hypothetical of hypotheticals and the from 100% to 0% with a bit of faulty steps.. You need to regulate certain things and regulating certain things doesn't mean it drops from 100% you can do whatever to 0% you can do nothing whatsoever..
                You need to take responsibility for yourself and your people too.. We are talking of self defense, it's a personal responsibility too..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody will ban guns from someone cause they homosexual or anything else like that..
                Homosexual? No, never.
                Right wing? They will most certainly try.
                I don't know if you've ever seen a 4473 Firearms Transaction Form. It has a bunch of questions about your legal status, criminal record, etc. There isn't really anything that could be added to it to "expand" it...unless of course you want something like
                >How do you feel about Hitler COOL[ ] NOT COOL [ ]
                That's a facetious example, of course, but it's where we'll be headed. Don't doubt it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Right wing? They will most certainly try.
                Ofcourse they might try, but it's so fucking easy to make a lawsuit. And the difference between left leaning people and right leaning people is right leaning people got a fuckton of money..
                You going to ban some guy cause he's 'right winger' a fraudulent concept, and republican and he's white' and he's a 'terrorist' cause he doesn't want endless immigration or something. They going to get fucked up even more than amber herd.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ofcourse they might try, but it's so fucking easy to make a lawsuit.
                OK, I'm back to believing you're being dense on purpose.
                I'm getting that fucking umbrella out so I have it handy. And no lube.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My friendly danish homosexual, you assume that the US is a functional, optimally run and unbiased bureaucratic system. It is not. Switzerland is the exception largely because they are exceptionally high trust, on top of high functioning Swiss autism. Our Constitution sets up our federal government to be ineffective to a point, save for necessary interstate mediations and military authority. The rest is delegated through the state level government.

                These laws you suggest do not serve the people as intended but exist as a vector for government to exert its influence. When laws and the government do not serve the people, the people are obligated to use lethal force or (preferably, IMO) the threat of lethal force. A governing body that will not willingly relinquish authority will act accordingly to preserve itself, and having any control is preferable to them over having none at all.

                People largely think about laws for the potential good but rarely about how these laws can allow corruption, and should be seen as equal and possibility.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Despite Switzerland being touted as an example of gun freedom in Europe, they have incredibly intense regulations regarding use and storage of firearms, I wish people would stop trying to compare it with the US, it's apples and oranges

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >These laws you suggest do not serve the people as intended but exist as a vector for government to exert its influence. When laws and the government do not serve the people, the people are obligated to use lethal force or (preferably, IMO) the threat of lethal force. A governing body that will not willingly relinquish authority will act accordingly to preserve itself, and having any control is preferable to them over having none at all.
                Exactly, and i figure how USA works that way is, that the US government is nefarious and play for special interests. And any intervention by them will be an unnecessarily harsh one.. If there's a slight problem with certain people owning certain guns they will say take them all instead.. TO PREEMPT THAT is to go and say to them we need only this and that, so you don't use a strawman of these few idiots to take away everything..
                Because i understand your sentiment and how US government works. I also understand of january 6th that they are total pussies idiots and clearly it is the US business structure and khanate in a way that gives the orders and these are just a bunch of peons that run around the capitol signing whatever into law and getting paid richly to pretend to represent people.
                So you want to PREEMPT them to give them NO EXCUSE to take ALL guns away.. you want to go in front of them before their idiotic bonehead legislation to remove all guns or whatever. and say we need to deal with these certain people instead that these certain people can't have guns.. BEFORE THEY THEMSELVES propose it. Because whatever these idiots propose it's going to be sweeping and way too broad and way too unspecific.. They see a problem and becaues they are low iq moron stooges a problem is a nail and all they have is a hammer.. Guns is a problem, fucking get rid of them. Be PREEMPTIVE instead.. go in advantage of what you expect they going to do this and propose we need to do this way milder thing instead..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So you want to PREEMPT them to give them NO EXCUSE to take ALL guns away
                You can't preempt a shooting, all it takes for this shit to kick off is for someone to get shot.
                Again, the compromise game doesn't work, we've been doing it for almost a century

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can't preempt a shooting, all it takes for this shit to kick off is for someone to get shot.
                >Again, the compromise game doesn't work, we've been doing it for almost a century
                The shootings is not an issue, people get shot, people get killed people get run over people get killed every single day in a country of 330 million people of USA this is unavoidable..
                But it doesn't have to mean they take all the guns away and this is what i mean.. Cause that's what they ultimately want to say.. we get rid of this gun entirely. And they have honed on in particular this ar 15 bullshit. Which is a gun for standing your ground, it's a perimeter gun it's a home defense weapon.. against multiple assailants, it's one where those americans who buy it they fire it at the ranges but it's otherwise at home.. maybe some travel around with it in their trunk but mostly it's at home.. it's pistol that is the gun that travels around and kills people 😀 cause it's what pistols are for, you don't see they have it.. untill they have it drawn and say give me the casshhhh.. or whatever.. or blow your head off cause they don't like you.
                To avoid them going carpet banning it you need to preempt them.. Politicians are dumb animals.. they want to get elected, they want money and they want to have a cause and that cause succeed to give them integrity. Right now it's all about that.. Don't give them that.. go intercede in front of them and say look whatever dumb shit you thinking of this is what we need instead. You let them make their own decisions this fucking ar 15 going to just be fucking banned 😀

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Still, you can’t preempt these things. Preemptively preventing shootings and “knowing the signs” requires a huge violation of privacy to be effective. Trading one right for another is no solution. This is a problem with a solution that cannot be legislated or come from legal authority. It is exclusively a cultural and communal problem.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Still, you can’t preempt these things. Preemptively preventing shootings and “knowing the signs” requires a huge violation of privacy to be effective. Trading one right for another is no solution. This is a problem with a solution that cannot be legislated or come from legal authority. It is exclusively a cultural and communal problem.
                It's not about preventing shootings, nothing can prevent shootings other than arming the personell there, they always target people who don't have guns, or it's over in 2 seconds. There was a n-word that try to attack a party, someone with a pistol or something shot him immediately he had a rifle.. that was over, no casualties.. he was planning to shoot the entire wedding party or whatever..
                Rifles are good for defense not offense. Really pistols are better for surprise offense. Rifle is something you pull out or higher when it's like i defend this territory you coming at me.. go ahead.. come and get it.. it's stationary perimeter defense weapon.. it's dumbass to run around with..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ultimately, the cops will not really help you, and i think we agree on that. But at the same time, you don't want to arm the dumbasses who want to attack people and do crime.. If you say everyone has this freedom you end up protecting the criminals when your background checks are not rigid enough.. It's a sad thing where americans you love freedom more than ANYTHING, but who you end up protecting are criminals who do your head in if you live in the wrong area.. and then saying we can't take their fucking weapons away.. You don't mean to but absolutes is what that entails.. Obviously you care mostly about the very good people who do no wrong.. but absolutism is where you end up protecting those who really you should not protect. And when they go blast someones head off cause they never should have had that firearm, that firearm that for 99.99% of cases you keep in your house.. just cause you don't want them to prove. They are as good as you are.. you run into trouble.
                Why do you want to protect these fucking people who make your life miserable and then politicians try to say you are such people cause you make no distinction? it's just so puzzleing to me.. You got a big heart i'll give you that..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yes.. criminals will have weapons. We have in my country they steal from army depots and we have had episodes where they firing army grade rockets at eachother and throw army grenades into buildings. This is what happens where guns are not readily available, they steal from police and army depots.. So we have situations danes have no guns in general, and these motherfucker gangs drug gangs are killing eachother with rockets and grenades 😀 criminals always obtain weapons.. no matter what, of that you can be certain. Tracing them back to you and who is keeping selling them to you makes it easier to do with background checks. So that you end up more and more with rifles and everything else being in the hands only in those with extensive backgroundchecks who will overwhelmingly do nothing the fuck with it.. unless you invade their house and try to kill them, at which point, prepare to meet your maker..
                And the last part is what you want..

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no, it implies that a central authority will deem someone worthy or not, depending on arbitrary rules/model. but especially it implies that this central authority will have the resources to make such a judgement. meaning they will have a profile of everyone.
              don't you see where this is leading to?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no, it implies that a central authority will deem someone worthy or not,
                ofcourse there will always be that no matter what. There will always be collective decisionmaking of that. And then you have to fight politically so they don't just say nobody can have any weapons at all.
                This zero regulation shit you are talking about is total utter nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >collective decisionmaking
                >fight politically

                >More people are killed with hammers in the US every year than are killed with rifles (fact). It's something like 95% of all gun deaths in the US are from handguns.
                exactly. Rifles are not the problem with gunviolence, exactly YOU GOT IT!.. it's always the pistols.. and it's those who buy pistols who don't have a concealed carry.. which means they can walk around with them for self defense. Those who want only pistols those are the ones you need to ask a few questions.

                You buy a rifle to leave it at home in case someone coming to fuck you up.

                >>More people are killed with hammers in the US every year than are killed with rifles
                >.. it's always the pistols.

                you really seem to have deficits in comprehending reality

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't read what he and i was saying. He was saying illustrating how rifles in relation to homocides is very little of a problem and hammers are used more to kill people with than rifles.
                Pistols are used in almost all gunviolence homocides.. where a criminal is like killing someone with a gun it's not a rifle it's a pistol cause he can just pull that out and go blam blam blam.. you walk around with a rifle it's not a fucking surprise they have forewarning to get the fuck out of there..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sensible euro

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't own "any type" of firearm. At least not the average person.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make lots and lots of guns

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you have a totalitarian government already, you must be absolutely certain they don't disarm you. Because the number 1 cause of democide is a tyrranical government disarm the people and then the military only ones who have weapon, and then they just go around butchering whoever disagree with them. Then the government becomes the crime gang..

      But it's funny IN TERMS OF GUNVIOLENCE, let's say you want to reduce gunviolence, it's almost all pistol oriented, almost ALL OF IT, almost ALL the homocidies are by pistol, why you want to ban rifles? 😀 it's disingenous the motivation is something else clearly!

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Promote their use in self defense, eurofag laws only permit them for hunting

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not my problem

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously the guns fault, anyone else would have killed her if they had that same gun, nothing to do with mental health.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thispersondoesnotexist.com

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The public opinion is overwhelmingly anti-gun here, even right wingers. Feels bad man.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By shooting everyone outside of America.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i live in central europe. down the road from a gun store. next to a shooting range. i’ve gone into gun stores in switzerland. so, unless you’re homosexuals to the west, i don’t know what the fuck you’re on about.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really honestly think is that the main problem with guns is americans own neuroticism they have gotten recently.
    If you ask people outside USA other than social manipulators on reddit and social media. They will almost all say like me, that they not afraid of weapons like that. And they as i understand that weapons are to extent they are obtained legally are pretty much 99.9% for personal defense and almost never used.

    If you want high regulation and background checks of anything, look who is buying the pistols and don't have a concealed carry license. Cause why they want to own a pistol is cause they want to BE WALKING AROUND WITH IT.. nobody buys a rifle to walk around with it, they have it at home in their house for personal defense..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More people are killed with hammers in the US every year than are killed with rifles (fact). It's something like 95% of all gun deaths in the US are from handguns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >More people are killed with hammers in the US every year than are killed with rifles (fact). It's something like 95% of all gun deaths in the US are from handguns.
        exactly. Rifles are not the problem with gunviolence, exactly YOU GOT IT!.. it's always the pistols.. and it's those who buy pistols who don't have a concealed carry.. which means they can walk around with them for self defense. Those who want only pistols those are the ones you need to ask a few questions.

        You buy a rifle to leave it at home in case someone coming to fuck you up.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lets help a rebellion in Australia.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let’s play the regime change game but with 1st world nations instead this time

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Worldwide ban on bros owning guns.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Worldwide ban on bros owning guns.
      Two things if i was wanting to reduce gunviolence in USA.. ban almost all n-words who as much as hint as having low impulse control and having violent tendencies and saying weird shit on social media and in general being impulsive like that. They need to pass many tests to be allowed to obtain even a pistol. And then i'd go after pistols almost exclusively and check everyone who is buying pistols who don't obtain concealed carry. BECAUSE IT'S PISTOLS NOT RIFLES which are used for almost all gunviolence crime and homocides.. cause it's easy to fucking walk around with and pull out and say give me all your money.. or pull it out and say i don't like you so now this is going to happen POW POW POW..

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Increase immigration to those countries

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck are you talking about you dumb spic. Plenty of countries have guns outside of america, the problem isnt guns, it's fucking americans acting like retards with them!

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    psyop women into thinking they're good

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just mail them to random addresses in Europe

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    convince Russians to invade more countries

  22. 2 weeks ago
    RRAARREEE

    1/4 of Australians own guns

    1/2 of Canadians

    1/3 of Norwegians

    2/3 of Austrians

    1/3 of Swedes

    1/4 of Italians

    4/5 of Swiss

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RARE
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  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you have to unwind the emotional conditioning people have with them from media
    it's just a tool, but people are conditioned to have an emotional reaction to them

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Destabilize governments, no government nobody trying to stop you

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need for me

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I were President I would airdrop AR-15s, ammo, and magazines over serf countries like Britain.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If I were President I would airdrop AR-15s, ammo, and magazines over serf countries like Britain.
      If it was only giving to total sound minded law abiding brits, you would see gangs in britain take a fucking nosedive like you wouldn't believe 😀

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trump should have handed out AR15s at his rallies. Instead he kept them all in vast uncountable stockpiles so the tyrants who threw him out of office could send them all (all the weapons) to Ukraine where they will be completely wasted, or sold on the black market by corrupt Ukrainian kleptocrats.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Trump should have handed out AR15s at his rallies. Instead he kept them all in vast uncountable stockpiles so the tyrants who threw him out of office could send them all (all the weapons) to Ukraine where they will be completely wasted, or sold on the black market by corrupt Ukrainian kleptocrats.
        Something i found out recently about ukraine, it's totally unrelated but i just remembered that. You know what ukraine is. Old khazaria, the fake garden gnome kingdom.. those who adopted judaism. It's in fucking ukraine.
        Now i don't believe russians should just annex ukraine or any other nation i don't believe in war and conquest and i am very anti racist in a real sense in i don't want any anti european racism either and that's what need to happen to finally bury this racial hatred hatchet, but that's very fucking interesting!

        DID YOU KNOW that ukraine is old khazaria kingdom? the khanate of khazaria that adopted judaism and become the false garden gnomes of bible. And the real tribes of israel are the europeans.. It's a whole can of worms.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also i'd love to own a machinegun like in switzerland, a shotgun and an semi auto rifle with huge magazine.. Keep it in my house. I'd feel the most safest i ever been in my life. And i've had people try to kill me without doxxing myself completely, having to fend them off, only to have the useless police say look unless he come here and try to kill you again we not even going to arrest him (he try kill me with a brick) and fucked up my ear.. and i wrestle him around and fucked him the fuck out of there..
    Police are USELESS, nothing i want more than having a firearm so whoever many come you just going to come and eat that fucking lead, BRING IT..
    So i love a switzerland situation in denmark. But i would NEVER want that without it being said that if someone is even remotely unreliable, you not going to have shit.. cause you fucking shouldn't..

    So i know how it is when people trying to kill me.. lot of people don't know that. And neither should they. I am big fan of having guns or something to defend myself with that does some damage.. So just full disclosure about that.

    I find people who say you should not be able to own a firearm to defend yourself, completely idiotic. Because i can assure you danish police are fucking useless to help you and show up afterwards and don't do fucking SHIT.. unless they really catch them trying to do shit in the act..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was at ground zero in the 1992 LA riots and I can tell you that if you didn't have a gun you were fucked. There wasn't a fucking LAPD officer within 20 miles from where I was at. fuck these motherfuckers trying to disarm people.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I was at ground zero in the 1992 LA riots and I can tell you that if you didn't have a gun you were fucked. There wasn't a fucking LAPD officer within 20 miles from where I was at. fuck these motherfuckers trying to disarm people.
        These dumbass police not going to fucking help you, and i just give story about danish police they are 100% useless if you can't defend yourself.. they just show up and in denmark they big motherfuckers fucking 2 meter tall, but what use i have for that if they not going to apprehend the guy trying to fucking kill me at my place 😀
        I learned that the hard way too, what people of uvalde texas now know.. They not going to do shit, if you want to live and someone come attack you, you better be able to fucking defend yourself, then they come after and write a police report and ask questions about what happen.. It's foolish to expect police going to save you..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Given that police are generally useless and certainly can't be expected to predict crime, that is, show up before it happens .. the only reason to accept not having a gun is living in a safe neighborhood. But even this is flawed because things change, hoods change, countries change. The problem of criminals getting guns is serious, but regulation won't fix that because the criminals won't follow the regulations anyway. The real solution is to birth control people who spawn criminals, whatever their race is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly, haha I married a Danish girl, she's fucking infuriating but I love her something awful so I'm stuck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Exactly, haha I married a Danish girl, she's fucking infuriating but I love her something awful so I'm stuck.
            Well congratulations on your marriage, i hope you have a very nice marriage and hopefully a few nice children and so on. And that you are able to protect your family if some criminal or lunatic trying some dumb shit.. You can't stop people from doing dumb and evil shit, but you can give good people the means to defend themselves from it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The police i see like. Unless he's literally doing it as they are showing up.. they not going to help you..
            And if people most people only knew that this is how it works in actual pragmatic application, you wouldn't be so hesitant to say you should be able to defend yourself, and people wouldn't be as hesitant either to say, if there's anything that you are unstable or you potentially up to criminal activity we going to deprive you of that. Such weapons are for good people only. To be used against scumbags like those.. if they absolutely have to.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Story time?!?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Great Scandi girl. Still thin, thin fingers, mom is still attractive even at 70. Clean as fuck to the point of annoying, house looks like a model home. Can basically cook anything, also fucking sews, what girl sews now days? Only one kid, shes been a great mom. Almost done with LA, will be leaving soon after finishing a few work related things. LA does feel a little tense with the possibility to go off again.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Great Scandi girl.
            I think he means the LA riots thing you were saying, but go ahead 😀

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not the story we expected, but please, do go on.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck, I was actually at USC for a sales call when things kicked off. I had no idea and drove down Adams towards the South Bay. It seemed like everything was on fire. It wasn't but smoke was everywhere. People standing in the road stopping cars kind of like the BLM riots but people weren't pussies back then so it seemed like serious shit. I weaved through residential streets all the way back to Hawthorne. Hawthorne is shit but it was better than South Central or Ktown where a lot of shit was going down. Once I got home and saw what happened to Reginal Denney I thanked my lucky stars I didn't stop, Never fucking stop ever if that shits going down.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also i'm part swiss, and this whole discussion makes me like that fact even more, i always want to move to switzerland with all this talk of how much swiss can own whatever insane weapons for personal defense. 😀

    So those who say i am anti gun, no that's not true 😀 but you can't have dumbasses or criminals being able to have them, so i believe in strong regulation also in that regard.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Export our n-words outside America

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Export our n-words outside America
      LEL, fuck off with trying to make others have n-word problems. We get exactly why you desperately need to have firearms for self defense.. I'd feel like the most naked individual whatsoever to live among n-words in crime areas and then someone saying dude you can't own firearm at all cause of we don't like guns.. and all the n-words have them illegally.. Holy shit dude.. i'd almost suck dick to get out of that neighbourghood. ALMOST.. just living in fear all day, not cause of guns but because I'M NOT FUCKING ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE, around that kind of shit! can't even imagine living like that.. must be fucking insane.. You low income american being forced to live like that.. What a nightmare..

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in Texas and I own over 100 guns. Half of them are rifles. If shit goes crazy I will be arming my entire neighborhood.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I live in Texas and I own over 100 guns. Half of them are rifles. If shit goes crazy I will be arming my entire neighborhood.
      Yeah and you own them and you have them in your house, like 99.99% of american law abiding gun owners who are of ZERO PROBLEM with gun violence. And n-words with pistol means they try to say you can't own a rifle and keep it at home.
      PISTOL is for crime, it's for walking around with.. it's murder weapon of choice.. They have to have loons mentally unstable who should never be allowed to obtain a rifle to kill some people to EVER BE ABLE TO SAY that you shouldn't be able to own a rifle.. it's ridiculous! If someone come to your house trying to fuck you up, you need to be able to reign fire.. on those sons of bitches..

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pistols are also easier for women to carry in handbags and purses to defend themselves.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Pistols are also easier for women to carry in handbags and purses to defend themselves.
          Yes exactly it's great for women unironically to have weapon. Cause women are weak and can't physically defend themselves against rape and other things unless they have pistol.
          The thing where i say pistols is used for crime is. Background check severely for anyone who buy pistol and don't have a concealed carry (which is if it's for defense) ask them why you want a pistol why you not want to buy a rifle or shotgun which never leave your place.. Why you want to buy a pistol to WALK AROUND WITH.. you planning criminal activity? where is your application for concealed carry. No i like pistols on.. Oh really n-word, let's talk about this 😀

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >(which is if it's for defense) ask them why you want a pistol why you not want to buy a rifle or shotgun which never leave your place.. Why you want to buy a pistol to WALK AROUND WITH.. you planning criminal activity? where is your application for concealed carry. No i
            I hope you get raped by a Paki or Somali, you inbred son of a whore

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I hope you get raped by a Paki or Somali, you inbred son of a whore
              that's a strange take, i'm sure you do, you probably one of them. Do i get in way of your criminal activities? oh booh hoooh..

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I hope you get raped by a Paki or Somali, you inbred son of a whore
              Calling me inbred, doesn't know pakis and somalis are some of the most inbred on planet, and danes and europeans in general are some of least inbred people on the face of the earth, by the cosanguinity index that tracks it.
              Over what, saying i want women to have a pistol so they don't get attacked by n-words and pakis. Oh boy you convinced me, no guns at all for womens.. Gosh darnit this complicates the rapings..

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    buy guns
    use guns
    bully politicians that want to restrict access to guns without going overboard

    It really is that simple.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am both a Christian and gun owner. It is time for gun safety legislation. Owning an AR-15 with 30 round clips is not a God given right. Please don’t be a heretic and associate gun ownership with Godliness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am both a Christian and gun owner. It is time for gun safety legislation. Owning an AR-15 with 30 round clips is not a God given right. Please don’t be a heretic and associate gun ownership with Godliness.
      if you are a decent stable person you absolutely should be able to own that. If you aren't, go fuck yourself.. completely! because all that does is giving them the means to use that against other people.. There's nothing more fundamentally beautiful in life is having ability to defend yourself and save your own life.. Everything else is fucking irellevant if you don't have that.. you can't expect police or others to just save your ass.. It's up to you to defend yourself ultimately. And depriving law abiding upstanding totally decent people from that, is really almost criminal in and of itself.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    movies featuring keanu reeves. guns. lots of guns.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And also if someone assault you and police don't catch them in act, they show up big tall motherfuckers file police report asking if you want to press charges.. So you have to go to court to get this guy in prison if you want to..No matter if multiple witnesses, they don't even go apprehend him unless you say you want to press charges and go through that.
    So BEFORE THEY SHOW UP.. it's just him and you, and nothing will help you.. it's up to you to defend yourself.. It's disgusting to say don't be able to defend yourself if you know they can easily be armed these other ones..
    To say you can't have an assault rifle a shotgun or whatever at your place, on condition it NEVER LEAVE THAT PLACE, which i'd be happy to accept btw.. and if it leave that place i inform them i am taking my weapons somewhere else, and i am moving this to that location and be aware i am transporting them, and i'm not going to do shit..
    if you want to say to especially americans.. you can't do that. You got to be fucking insane like the lunatics who buy guns to kill people with.. and these are the people who should NEVER BE ABLE TO LEGALLY OBTAIN THEM..

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we make firearms more socially acceptable outside of America?
    Video games and education of libertarian individualist ideology. Every human soul yearns for freedom and independence.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need more guns in south america

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shoot everyone that doesn't like them.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be more up to date on current genocides and abuses of government on populations without arms. Bonus for including historic cases of genocide against unarmed populations. Government kills more people than lawful gun owners.

    Ugyirus in China
    Christians in Middle-East
    etc etc

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flood Europe with immigrants. Drive up crime in European countries. Arm European police.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit i think I've seen that guy before

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't. Firearms are a right that only whites should bear. Non-whites should not be allowed to defend themselves.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You disguise them as teddybears.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Great question. I don't know

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need to create and activity around it. Hunting and shooting ranges need to be more popular. Also it's best not to try to advertise military style weapons. So pretty much black semi automatic weapons are going to create fear in a lot of people. Which is why it's best to start trying to get people into wood styled bolt action rifles and revolvers. Those types of guns do not create nearly as much fear in people.

    Overall you need to create more activity around guns and start spreading guns that do not scare as many people. Maybe after having achieved those you can continue but those are the starting blocks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also it's best not to try to advertise military style weapons. So pretty much black semi automatic weapons are going to create fear in a lot of people.
      This needs to be addressed as much as the hunting and target shooting aspects, otherwise you end up with fudds that are willing to sell everyone else down the river in order to keep their deer guns. The promotion of action-shooting sports would go a long way towards normalizing semi-auto rifles and handguns to people already in firearm-friendly circles. Introduce those sports at the same time as other more normie-friendly policies, and use them to create a wood'n'steel -> scary-black-rifle pipeline for gun owners.

      People seeing military pattern rifles being used in safe competitions goes a long way towards changing opinions on them. Just for the love of all that is holy don't introduce Three Gun. Easily the worst action shooting sport.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fudds that are willing to sell everyone else down the river in order to keep their deer guns.
        This.
        You have to confront these people when they start with this nonsense IRL.
        I hate them about as much as I hate the leftists.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those types are what put me on the "I should be able to own a tactical nuke" path years ago.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed.
            I give them the "target shooting and hunting are nice, but I bought these guns to kill those that would harm me, uniformed or otherwise".
            Tends to stop the conversation, which, with these people, is exactly what I want.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True. If Bezos, Zuckemberg and Bill Gates teamed up and made their own nukes I would support owning them. It starts with banning of automatic weapons, then "High capacity" (aka ten rounds or more) semi automatics, then all semi automatics, then all "high caliber" (basically anything above 22) guns, then all 22 guns, then even all black powder guns, then crossbows, then regular bows, then even kitchen knives and eventually probably even slings.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We'll be here before long, at least until they ban locks and sticks.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we make firearms more socially acceptable outside of America?

    IDK HOW youll do this anon, but YOU GOTTA fucking do this.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very sound and good gun owners should be able to own the most obscene kind of guns so if someone or a pack of crooks try and kill them they go. SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND..
    But should criminals be allowed to posess such firearms, absolutely NEVER.. if there's something wrong with you if you want to go kill some people if you ran a fucking red light way too many times if there's way too many times you are trying to say you want to do certain things. Sorry the evidence speaks against you and for your sake and everyone else, you should not own such weapons.. you can get the pistol the beebee gun of weapons available.. and it's questionable if you should be even able to own that.. This is how it is the better thing.. this way 99.99% of american gun owners or any other gun owners around the world who have it for defence, are not to be touched, but you who want to do this shit with it, go fuck yourself..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know if you know this, but criminals don't follow laws.

      No shit. Late 1700's maybe? At least back then politicians could say "White" without following it with "terrorists".

      kek'd but sad and true.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't know if you know this, but criminals don't follow laws.
        I know i've said it many times, but the stricter the regulations, they can trace the bullets and the gun, they all have serial numbers there's a whole thing with that where they know the weapon where it was manufactured where the bullet was manufactured who sold it to who.. the more background checks the less it goes into criminals hands who should never have them.. the less you do that, it's just a fucking cornucopia of bullshit.. Don't make it easy..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The problem you're going to have is yet again:
          Criminals don't follow laws.
          Pipe guns have existed forever and are easily constructed without 3d printing. Ammo can be stolen easily from those legal good citizens.
          In fact, you're *really* encouraging a black market with things like serialized ammo as now I have an incentive as a "good citizen" to engage in a black market to those that the government deems "bad" at any given time.
          That is also the main issue with all of this kind of talk, the government has 0 business telling me what kind of arms I can or cannot have.
          In the case of the USA, we had citizens with ships with 40+ cannons on them and this was not only allowed but encouraged at the time. The notion that there are any weapons we should be restricted from directly goes against history here.
          >But but what about-
          Yes, I am saying I should have access to tactical nukes. No I'm not being funny.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            State nukes would be more realistic
            >being necessary to the security of a free State

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok fine but I'm not giving up my battleship with railgun.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are no longer discussing this in good faith.
      Now, say hello to MY little friend!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You are no longer discussing this in good faith.
        >Now, say hello to MY little friend!
        I am discussing in good faith though.. i want you to be armed but i don't want crooks and robbers and maliscious people to be able to use them to attack people like you. It seems more like you should be hiding under my umbrella if anything.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i want you to be armed
          Maybe, but your solution is no solution at all, and will result in the exact opposite of your goal.
          This has been explained to you, by me, ad astra and your refrain of "background checks" and "just make a lawsuit" are becoming stale.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Maybe, but your solution is no solution at all, and will result in the exact opposite of your goal.
            >This has been explained to you, by me, ad astra and your refrain of "background checks" and "just make a lawsuit" are becoming stale.
            I don't think it will but it's a broken record because you say it goes from 100% to 0% if any regulation is taking place, and switzerland is an example of how it won't. But it is a broken record cause we keep running around in circles saying the same things to eachother. And let's just disagree to disagree unless you don't want to go into the argument further.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >And let's just disagree to disagree
              Sounds good to me.
              Take care.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like you though, sorry about speaking about gun restriction so many times.. but it really is like. It's like don't talk about water.. this is all about water though.. you setting me up 😀 but i like you, and i think you like me too. And i appreciate our conversations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No hard feelings at all, my fren.
          It's good to bantz about stuff like this.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No hard feelings at all, my fren.
            >It's good to bantz about stuff like this.
            It's nice talking to you too, we butt heads, we might not agree, but it's very nice to meet you nevertheless! it's some spirited conversations to be sure. It's good to have a little bit of opposition to eachothers ideas, it is very stimulating and thought provoking.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But should criminals be allowed to posess such firearms, absolutely NEVER..
      Unfortunately there's no way to guarantee this, ever.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>But should criminals be allowed to posess such firearms, absolutely NEVER..
        >Unfortunately there's no way to guarantee this, ever.
        No but you can restrict it more and more, and then obviously give to decent people the ability to defend themselves. The philosophy behind the 2nd ammendment is totally logical and sound, how it was expressed in that idiot piece of paper is full on idiotic.. Don't try and see good ideas as a set in stone things and then find ways around it. If it has holes so that it is leaking like a sieve.. Try and patch those holes and understand the principle of what was trying to be attained, which is self defense.. And common regulation to attain that philosophical goal in a meaningful way. It does not honor the principle to leave it full of holes and then do nothing to patch them. Consider it an initial draft based off a philosophy to attain a goal yet not fully attained pragmatically. But like this is where we start.. the public should be able to carry weapons to defend themselves.. What weapons all this nobody could foresee that.. how the world changes.. And to say that and then throw the idea away because it did not obviously consider all scenarios. The philosophy of what is the point of trying to attain a situation of is what is important.. how to get there is not so easy.. to make it pragmatically effective and working so that the flaws are removed and you hone in on like okay so this is better working like this..

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No but you can restrict it more and more
          Felons are already barred from gun ownership, any restriction you make falls on non-criminals and non-criminals alone. Your argument is that we should refine the Constitution, and there's a system for that, but it's necessarily quite difficult.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is modern liberal media hype.
    I don't think they will ever become acceptable here again unless there is some major cultural shift.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You would need to start small. For example here everything expect air guns and black powder guns pre 1890 (and you cannot shoot with these without a license either) requires a gun license to purchase. And those licenses can be a pain in the ass to get if you do not know what you are doing.

    The first thing I would do is to start with small steps. If I was a politician I wouldn't try to legalize AR-15's instantly. Rather I would point out that in many European countries you can buy any black powder gun without needing a license. Then I would try to intruduce that single shot black powder weapons can be purchased without a license. This way you can argue against any anti gun advocates that it would be really hard to do a school shooting with flintclock pistol or a musket. If anti gun advocates fight back hard maybe even limit the caliber to 36 or 32 calibers.

    After that I would try to legalize single shot bolt action 22 guns. After that perhaps legalizing all black powder guns. Even high caliber Cap and Ball revolvers. Then all 22 stuff etc. But you have to start small.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You paint it pink and pastel blue. You say guns can save LGBT's lives. Once people agree with the right of self defense, you expend this right to everyone except joggers.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't. Only those bold enough to break the law should have guns. Fuck pussified, government-regulated gun ownership.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m against the 2nd amendment, because it empowers the weak. The weak should know their place.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The weak should know their place.
      Pay denbts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Weak amerimutt

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kick out the garden gnomes.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shame them for not taking an interest in the physical sciences. Cannons (aka guns) used to be in every textbook because trajectory is a prime example of math, geometry, force, acceleration, gravity, etc. Apparently anti-intellectuals don't understand that.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kill all n-words, kill all muslims, kill all homosexuals.

    Or just have the Russian Army walk in their lands.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we make firearms more socially acceptable outside of America?
    come visit when you want, also militia army.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bring them war.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im glad I dont live in a brazil-tier country, so no. Fuck off!

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy a drone and learn to make explosives.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By banning Americans

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guns are perfectly acceptable in Finland.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe in rural but not in the city. Trust me everyone around me thought I was going to do a terrorist shooting when I planned on getting a license free 1700s flintclock because they are cool and I'm a black powder enthusiast.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tbh I thought this was a thread forearms and came here for advice on how to get forearms

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And you see it with the BLM the expression of that. This is a foundational movement that has NO BASIS WHATSOEVER in mathematical and statistical reality. The police are not killing blacks overwhelmingly to any degrees where they do not do crime, infact US police force hardly kill anybody in the entire USA.. they kill people so little that it's almost impressive considering the amount of bullshit they are dealing with, they are 99.9% effective and 0.01% in error of that is about the approximate ratio they kill people out of the amount of annual arrests if we simplify to 1000 killed and 10 million arrests annually..
    What is the fraud of BLM the notion that police killing everybody in particular blacks, when almost all black shot and killed by police was totally justified and you dealing with ultimately a dousin cases where there's even alledged misconduct where it's not 100% obvious, and even in those cases it's nearly 70% obvious.. but there is misconduct it does happen.. a dousin cases in a year.. that's a very VERY ACCEPTABLE ERROR MARGIN.. cause you never get perfect unless they fucking robots 😀 you never get perfect with humans, they get wrong people hired they get all this, in spite of this so few of this..
    This they burn USA down for 1 year over.. No it's a fraud based on anti european racism, with false excuse that police killing black people which is not case and police killing in general is not case. HOW COULD THAT BE A MOVEMENT..
    Because media lies and the public of USA is dumbed down on math.. they cannot understand their environment. they might aswell be living on the moon. Statistics are made up bullshit, math is made up and now you can tell these people ANYTHING loud enough and they believe it.. this is what that was..

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    n-word

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Invest in Dutch elections and depending on regulations start an NGO. Plan to do that once I am rich.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thats paraguay anon i agree it looks like the toothpaste flag with some crud on your monitor But starting a NGO in the netherlands is a based idea

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop killing eachother with them for retarded reasons.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread where a euro thinks he's got the "solution" to america's "gun problem"
    >over 70 posts by one incoherent ESL dane
    holy fuck shut up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you come here and lie like that, it's very sad. Ofcourse the solution to americans gun problem is gun background checks, but it's NOT so much of rifles, if you want to reduce gun violence aka number of killings in USA, that's pistols you need to look for..
      Ofcourse i have solution to americas gun problem because any solution is totally neutral to whoever say it, it's objective logical and rational and anyone no matter what background that ascertain it can recognize it. Because the solution is always the same and the problem is always the same once recognized.. It's all logic and math at end of the day.. This is why socalled 'AI' through pattern recognition can already outmatch seasoned doctors of 40 years to predict all kinds of diseases by just feeding it raw data, and they still trying to even figure out why it's so fucking good at it. Cause it just sees the data and it ANALYZES IT, it doesn't try and see well how does my conclusion benefit so and so people.. if it did it would be as inefficient as those doctors..
      THINK ABOUT THAT..

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We have background checks you fucking n-word. I don't know why people think we don't. And guess what? It hasn't done fuck all. If a n-word wants a gun they just steal it or buy it off of jamal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We have background checks you fucking n-word. I don't know why people think we don't. And guess what? It hasn't done fuck all. If a n-word wants a gun they just steal it or buy it off of jamal.
          that's not an excuse to not have more extensive tracing of weapons and such things.. It's just saying do nothing.. when there are obvious problems. But the problems are not that rifles can be owned but that dumb people end up owning them.. and the real culprit is always pistols in germs of gunviolence.. the gang shootouts, it's pistols.. the robbing of stores, it's pistols, the i want to rape you, it's pistol..

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >simply drop guns into random countries by air
    >see who picks them up
    >armed people shoot unarmed people
    >guns now acceptable
    Worked in Afghanistan amirite?

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not possible. Europoors are so pussified and effeminate that they wouldn't even think about picking up a gun. Non-whites in general are too stupid and violent for them, and the concept of lawful gun ownership is purely a white male trait anyway.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go kneel for n-words you fat slob

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Swissbros, can a foreigner living in Switzerland buy firearms? Or do you have to have citizenship or permanent residence pass or something?

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By American men once and for all showing how they can be used to mold society into something better.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what mental disorder does this dane have. i mean, besides raging autism.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guns are very accepted here because we know our police are shit and that no one is coming to save us.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    import n-words to see firsthand why they are needed oh wait

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We give illegally obtained and manufactured assault weapons to nationalist groups in Europe

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And i can agree with that some grow up faster than others, but i'd put the average median human of full absolute maturity of about high 20's low 30's.. Then there's some that mature faster than others, some even slower than that. but this is something that needs to deserve respect same as drivers license same as anything else. When you can kill people with doing some dumb shit, you need to prove you are BALANCED.. and if you can't, sorry.. I don't even think a lot of people that have drivers licenses should have them. go look at r/idiotsincars it's a fucking nightmare.. I drive totally fine i pass all tests i know what i am doing i'm never going to get into car accident. ARE YOU SURE. Sure, what about the other ones 😀 that's the ones that are the issue.. they are the ones that will get you into a car crash 😀 i'm not worried about the safe ones, it's the unsafe ones that are the issue..

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not going to be like we going to restrict this to people of good mental health. It's not about mental health. It's all about this is a gun that kills people. They really want this type of weapon totally banned in all cases, which is ridiculous.. cause it's very useful defense weapon.. on the basis of a few loons using this offensively. It's a perimiter defense weapon.. it has high caliber rounds, they coming at you.. fire fire fire fire, keep firing.. you don't have to reload so they have no chance overpowering you when you are reloading. It's why it's like a german shepherd.. AROUWFF you don't come around here trying to attack or i will defend myself.. Very kind otherwise..

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