We can't. They took over and are the majority now. In fact, they're slowly kicking us dysphoric people out of our own space
dont let it happen to you like it did us, anonette
>t. old queer whos now too much of a homosexual to be gay
Nothing can be done. Lgbt spaces have been taken over by tenders. All we can do is rebuild our own spaces
die mad pooner
>how do we restrict what people can and cant do with their bodies
It's not about restricting transition , it's about making the difference between legit transpeople and carrotgender pooners clear to the public.
There is no way to do that without further deteriorating optics. If half the enemy soldiers are clowns, you expect an easy battle. If the other half starts fighting the clowns... you can sit back and relax. The fighting is being done for you.
If you're not dysphoric why would you be doing anything with your body tho? You know I think there's another word for people who don't have dysphoria. It starts with a c...
So everyone who transitions is dysphoric or? What's your point?
their point was made, you simply didn't comprehend it.
they are free to do what they please although taking hrt when you dont have dysphoria is an extremely bad idea
what they shouldnt be allowed to do is call themselves trans and speak for us trutrannies
You don't think there are people who do not experience dysphoria now, and also don't experience it afterwards? People who are less of a gender-Kinsey 1 or 6, but more of a 2 or 3?
Holy shit people are so brain dead now. Why would you even feel the need to transition if you don't have dysphoria? You know what we called people who don't experience gender dysphoria? Cis
Idk? But that's what trenders are according to OP: people who transition without gender dysphoria.
they will filter themselves out in a decade
just ignore them dont give them the attebtion they want, just let them make a horrible mistake, go insane from taking hrt when they dont need it and detrans and move onto the next thing
The term "transgender" was created with non physically dysphoric trans people in the center. Surgeries and hormones aren't necessary for everyone. People should live how they want. Want to obsessively control how people identify and express themselves? Then join the Evangelical table.
Transgender as a term doesn't even make any sense. Nobody is changing their gender, it's something you're born with. What we change is sex characteristics
Why are people so opposed to just saying they're gnc? There's nothing wrong with being cis and going against gender norms
>It's something you're born with
Genderfluid folx beg to differ
>Transgender as a term doesn't even make any sense. Nobody is changing their gender, it's something you're born with. What we change is sex characteristics
Uh no, gender is not something you are born with and you can ABSOLUTELY change your gender. You are born with a sex and you can change your sex, kinda sorta, more-or-less, at least the secondary sexual traits.
Ye olde term transsexual already exists if that's the word you want to use for yourself because your special snowflake precious ass just can't stand being grouped in with all those other Ts. But T, as in transgender, is for everyone.
>Why are people so opposed to just saying they're gnc?
GNC is fine, but you are the one trying to REDEFINE the term transgender. GNC itself is a broader term than how transgender is understood nowadays, but traditionally speaking, GNC and transgender were extremely adjacent. Picrel.
Cis isn't a term that stands on its own. Cis = Not Transgender. And Transgender has ALWAYS included non-physically dysphoric people. It was coined and popularized by them.
You can't be trans without being dysphoric. Go back to tiktok
Also everything you said is idiotic but you probably knew that already
>You can't be trans without being dysphoric. Go back to tiktok
You can ABSOLUTELY be trans without being physically dysphoric. Hell, you can be trans without being socially dysphoric, since euphoria is a thing.
Again--the term Transgender was CREATED FOR AND POPULARIZED BY non-physically dysphoric trans women. Ye olde term transsexual already exists if that's the word you want to use for yourself because your special snowflake precious ass just can't stand being grouped in with all those other Ts. But T, as in transgender, is for everyone.
Zoomer spotted. So incredibly cringe and clueless of your own fucking history. Don't use any terms until you read a fucking book and the history and roots of the term "transgender".
You can type essays all you want, but it doesn't make it any less obvious how dumb you are
Don't use any terms until you read a fucking book and the history and roots of the term "transgender".
Just keep copy pasting debatelord. You probably only read Reddit posts so don't go on about books. Maybe look at the scientific literature then come back
lel, so cringe. I can GUARANTEE you that there is no scientific literature that states "non-dysphoric trans women cannot be transgender". On the contrary, most explorations of transgender people will be inclusive of non-physically dypshoric and euphoric trans women since, you know, those are the people for whom the term "transgender" was created for and popularized by. If your definition of transgender excludes them, you've entirely re-defined everything there is to transgenderism.
Don't use any terms until you read a fucking book and the history and roots of the term "transgender"
Didn't read, you're cringe, redditor, etc
Yeah I know you didn't read. That's how you end up with such an asinine worldview in the first place. I DO hope that you eventually come around to the idea of "reading". Or just die seething that the world doesn't accept your attempts to redefine and take over the term "transgender". One of the two.
Idk why you feel the need to get so upset. Waaaah somebody is disagreeing with me! Mom, tell them I'm a smarty!
You sound pathetic
I DO hope that you eventually come around to the idea of "reading".
This. It's literally a generational debate at this point, always threading the exact same ground.
cope seethe mald
What, do you want people to unironically be she/her HRT femboys with voice training and FFS, just because they don't perceive their experience as dysphoric?
Yes. Butch lesbians have been doing it for decades.
they're called hsts. they know what they are. they'll even top dudes.
see chanel santini detransition.
Tell me - what does the T in HSTS stand for?
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