How do we defeat Samael/Yaldaboth

How do we defeat Samael/Yaldaboth

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you know what the consequences of killing him would be?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. If you have not seeked out this answer, then you're not ready.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You'd fall out of comfy temporal existence, which he creates, to the insanity of eternity?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >comfy temporal existence, which he creates
        That's a filthy talmudic psyop. Jaldabaoth created nothing. Of course, the Catholic Church interrogated gnostics and this is the recorded "evidence" against them.

        Imagine taking the prosecutor's bullshit as pure truth.

        Y'all need to get a non-Abrahamic angle on the gnostic cosmology. Fortunately it's available now...

        As to OPs question, all we (collectively) need to do to overthrow this jackhole is to pierce through his lies with our perception.

    • 3 weeks ago
      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am an experienced Gnostic, perhaps not at the level of Yoda or Gandalf but I know some knowledge.
      I don't think the Demiurge is evil moreso a primal force of nature as evil as an animal killing for survival, there's reason why some call the Demiurge "the blind mad god" because that which is blind does not have consciousness over their actions merely a low consciousness animal flailing about themselves.
      If you wish to defeat the demiurge it's in the name, you must overcome your primal urges.
      That is not to say you cannot partake in the pleasures of life, in my opinion life is meant to be enjoyed and experienced, you must overcome your primal urges so that you can live with insight and clarity and so that your urges do not harm you like 99% of humans do.
      Most people don't realize that their primal urges harm them, living in karmic feedback loops repeating the same situation over and over again, so to defeat the Demiurge it would be wise to use the 12 powers to defeat the 7 planetary sins and the 3 traitors.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        12 powers
        -courage
        -stability
        -scholastic intellect
        -balance
        -determination
        -morality
        -fairness
        -eyes to see
        -to follow the path of the mystic
        -discernment
        -divine knowledge
        -good health

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        7 planetary sins
        -material blindness
        -overindulgence
        -animalistic violence
        -sexuality in the name of dissolution
        -intellectual tyranny
        -following unconscious illusions
        -proclaiming false authority

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3 traitors
        -ego
        -delusion
        -speaking obsecenity

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't think the Demiurge is evil moreso a primal force of nature as evil as an animal killing for survival
        I know you're memeing but this is basically true. You cant "defeat" the demiurge, only go to the exit thats right there in front of you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does it matter how you die? Can you be forced into a new life if you off yourself or is that also another bullshit thing people say

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think achieving gnosis or perhaps receiving consolamentum are the only two true paths out of the prison we find ourselves in. once you've achieved those, death can come as it may and will finally free you from the cycle of reincarnation and you will reach the heaven with the true god.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You dont even know if reincarnation is real

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Does it matter how you die?
            Yes or else the Gnostics would have just all offed themselves immediately.
            >Can you be forced into a new life if you off yourself or is that also another bullshit thing people say
            You're going to go through hundreds or thousands of lives after this one whether you like it or not.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I am an experienced Gnostic
        Well, that's not a school, but an outdated lineage of practice/tradition that no longer exists. You can't be an "experienced Gnostic" just like you can't be an experienced Greek Philosopher from the 500s BC or you can't be an experienced Gaul.
        The Gnostics are no longer around lmao
        There are some modern schools that lean heavily into Gnostic tenants though.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pet the kitty

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why tho

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's the god of the israelites

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    holy fuck i hate gnostics how do we kill all gnostic fags

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can’t destroy people’s connection to the Absolute. You could round up every demiurge denier and there would be a new crop of us in a few decades. The truth cannot be defeated.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Denying the Demiurge is just repeating his ritual to exile from god in the first place. God let him fuck around here by rejecting him. but what will the Demiurge do if we reject him? I wouldn't want to find out. I would do my best to please him. Free will seems like a joke but it is not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think we as souls are all fragments of the Absolute. The demiurge is a living soul fragment as well. Whatever powers he possesses as a demigod are nothing compared to the Supreme. We are all enduring this world of matter for a time, but I believe that it will not go on forever, and ultimately our souls cannot be destroyed or our connection severed to the real God.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The world operates on Highlander rules. The elites want you dead to increase their own power levels. That's why men were once giants with magic, before we split into billions

        • 3 weeks ago
          OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

          OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why defeat something that cannot defeat you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's defeated me by trapping me in his retarded hell-world where he dominates and abuses me for eternity.

      You'd fall out of comfy temporal existence, which he creates, to the insanity of eternity?

      This existence is not "comfy" at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can get out any time you want. You are not trapped here. You just hate the answer is to embrace Yaldabaoth's lessons in humility and love, and return to the Christ to serve him . The question is, why haven't you learned that yet? It is from envy, bitterness, ego... He will NEVER let you out if throw the entire board over. There are millions who do just that. It is fruitless, and futile, he has seen it all before. You never win, because he has is the original rebel, and he beat you to the punch. He gave you this chance however. He could have just kept us enslaved, for real.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where is freedom in servitude? Where is freedom in replacing one master with another?

          You fools. Yaldabaoth is YOU. You are saying how do we kill ourselves.

          Then what? The gate to heaven closes. Eternal darkness. Just incarnations in these ruthless tournaments for food, dog eat dog, until we are lucky enough to incarnate in a species with Christ consciousness again.

          Could take billions of years until we got another chance.

          Instead of throwing the whole board over, embrace this OPPORTUNITY he has given us. Think about how LUCKY we are. He put this path before us for a reason, imagine not walking it, and being like, nah, fuck you.

          The reward is EVERYTHING you could ever ask for and you are gonna say, you don't wanna be here? Wake up!!!

          >Eternal darkness.
          Are you afraid of the dark?
          What is lucky in being part of a preordained path of predetermined destiny under the illusion of choice?
          Why play a game where the only winning move is not to play it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it is preordained, that is because this is a ritual. The real war has already played out long ago. We have to understand the steps god took to be in power, through this thinly veiled simulation.

            This is such a retarded post.
            >nooo he's not trapping you here, if you let him abuse you enough then he'll trap you somewhere else where he goes by a different name and abuse you there instead!!!

            Yes it sucks. I struggle with it too. But it is like being in the baseball game and being like, fuck this. Im not playing baseball. They want us to do this, so we better do it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What is an all powerful god that needs to struggle for its power? What is truth in history written by it's victor?
              >They want us to do this, so we better do it.
              Amusing to submit to the whims of one simply because it is desired rather than simply refusing to play.
              What is freedom in surrender?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you hear the phrase "be careful what you wish for", this is probably the GOOD reality compared to the one bad people are sent to. You all take too lightly the grave sin of rejecting him, it is a ticket to hell in every religion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It may be an elevated reality in a pool of shit, but it is still a shit reality. Why restrict yourself in the pool when you can simply choose to leave, or simply enter it in the first place?
                >grave sin of rejecting him
                What is freedom in the face of ultimatums and coercions? What is an all loving god that punishes it's creation for the free will it has supposedly given. What is an all powerful god that restricts the reality it has created? Or rather creates such a restrictive reality to begin with?
                What is the fear of the dogmas in an organized form of control under the guise of freedom through servitude?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you can simply choose to leave

                They don't make it easy, it requires a ton of faith, and the star beings will do gaslighting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Faith
                The very thing those in control desire. Unless the faith is in one's own ability, your need to serve lacks the room for progress or freedom.
                >star beings will do gaslighting
                As if any deity, god or spirit has done any different? What is freedom in the face of ultimatums and coercions?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you a satanist by chance?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is such a retarded post.
          >nooo he's not trapping you here, if you let him abuse you enough then he'll trap you somewhere else where he goes by a different name and abuse you there instead!!!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are Nirvana/Ahura Mazda/God. Samsara/Ahriman/Yaldabaoth is your shadow. You are not trapped. You are just an awareness of the shadow.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not God or I would have the life that I want. Nobody would be able to make me experience things that I don't want to experience if I was God. I'm constantly being forced to experience things that I would never chose to experience and being threatened with things that I wold never choose to experience. This is objective, indisputable evidence that my reality is controlled by something that is separate fro me and hostile to me.

          If I was God I wouldn't be "a peasant". God forces me to live as "a peasant" so that he can self-identify as "a king" by dominating and abusing me through other people.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have already defeated HIM.
    XD

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You fools. Yaldabaoth is YOU. You are saying how do we kill ourselves.

    Then what? The gate to heaven closes. Eternal darkness. Just incarnations in these ruthless tournaments for food, dog eat dog, until we are lucky enough to incarnate in a species with Christ consciousness again.

    Could take billions of years until we got another chance.

    Instead of throwing the whole board over, embrace this OPPORTUNITY he has given us. Think about how LUCKY we are. He put this path before us for a reason, imagine not walking it, and being like, nah, fuck you.

    The reward is EVERYTHING you could ever ask for and you are gonna say, you don't wanna be here? Wake up!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God is a retard for calling me "god" to try to justify abusing me then spamming threads threatening to do things to me that I would never choose and that he wouldn't want done to him either. God should not be allowed to force me to exist in a retarded world of suffering to abuse and dominate me. I would never create a world where I'm a "peasant" or "tenant" or where I'm forced to perform labor to survive, or where I have to live in poverty, where I'm abused and dominated by others, where I have to accept that supreme superiority of others over me and be denied anything remotely good so they can feel better about how superior they are to me. I don't choose to have my door removed, I don't choose to work, I don't choose to lose access to toilets or toilet papers or the internet, I don't choose to be raped, I don't choose to be threatened with violence, I don't choose to have my spine injured, I don't choose to get covid, I don't choose for accessible things to be violently gatekept, I don't choose for my my mind to be violated and thoughts read and to be terrorized, harassed, etc over them, I don't choose to lose teeth, I don't choose to be terrorized for liking girls with hair colors darker than blonde or red, I don't choose to be constantly threatened with homelessness. Nothing about my life is my choice. I would never choose to experience the life that I'm being forced to live, I don't choose to be "farm equipment", I would never choose to live a life like this in a world like this, I have absolutely no control over my circumstances or this world whatsoever. God is a retarded liar for forcing a life on me that I would never choose to live and that he wouldn't either and then trying to accuse me of "choosing my life" or "being god" etc. There is nothing about my life that I control, there is nothing about my experiences that are my choice, God should not be allowed to force me to exist in his retarded hell-world then constantly accuse me of "choosing to"

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God is a literal retard for believing that some beautiful things in nature can be used to justify forcing people to exist and suffer in his retarded hell-world especially when the beautiful things in the world are violently gatekept. God gets triggered if I even imagine beautiful things in my mind and murders people for going to these sorts of places in real life. God is so absolutely disgusting and stupid for believing that the things he creates for himself and rich people's enjoyment somehow make it justifiable to torture people here for eternity. He literally believes that if even a single person enjoys life in this world then that justifies forcing everyone else to exist because he believes he can just call them jealous of the person who enjoys existence and he believes that will invalidate all of their unhappiness, and because of this he believes his favored people should be allowed to abuse others as much as they want. and that most people should have good things violently gatekept from them to maximize the satisfaction of his favored people with their lives, and so that he can maximize his own satisfaction by self-identifying with them, and so that he can shift blame to them for his sadism by getting them to join in on it.

      This picture is so unbelievably stupid. God literally says things like "peasants don't deserve beautiful things" then posts shit like this when he knows he would literally murder the kinds of people who are unhappy with their shit lives if they went to a place like that. God is so retarded and disgusting and delusional

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forcing people to exist and suffer in his retarded hell-world
        It's people who make it into a hell-world. That's no one's fault but the participating people.

        (btw I'm enjoying a heavenly life in this hell-world. You can too. first step is stop taking everything so seriously)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God controls every other person on earth and he does everything he can to demonstrate this to me every day by abusing and dominating me through them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

            OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Say that to the innocent child who was born into a abusive family.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kamehameha will help

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think samael is the lion serpent guy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Samael

      He is part of me. He was extremely ugly, he looked rotten.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is, Sophia calls him Samael as one of his other names

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sophia... the love and light of my life.
        Literally disses Samael/Jaldabaoth/Saklas before human history even gets up and running by telling him "That radiant child who existed before you (humanity) will put all your work to naught, and it will be as though you never existed."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some lion serpents are simply gods

      a face with a stream of energy behind it... a snake body? robes? torsos and limbs are unnecessary at certain densities

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best way to destroy the demiurge is to deny him your time, your worship, or your energy. Ironically, even posting about him gives him attention. Without attention he dies.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok all you gnostic schizos. Can I or can I not create or go to a reality based on a videogame and live there as the "protagonist" from the games story?
    I'm gonna try either way whatever you say but just curious to hear perspectives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAHv

      I'm not God or I would have the life that I want. Nobody would be able to make me experience things that I don't want to experience if I was God. I'm constantly being forced to experience things that I would never chose to experience and being threatened with things that I wold never choose to experience. This is objective, indisputable evidence that my reality is controlled by something that is separate fro me and hostile to me.

      If I was God I wouldn't be "a peasant". God forces me to live as "a peasant" so that he can self-identify as "a king" by dominating and abusing me through other people.

      Yell Sneed at him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's fucking lame dude aim higher

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yell Sneed at him

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he doesn't exist in 'my' world

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cut your dick off

    • 3 weeks ago
      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

      OM SRI MAHAKALA TRI YAM JAH JAH

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine joining the NFL and tackling the ref then declaring you won the game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but in this case your memory is wiped when you step on the field and all you know is the game sucks so you attack the authoritative looking figure that seems to be condemning the players to a future of brain damage in an attempt to escape what ever it is your in

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well when you put it like that, normalfags seem even dumber.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's pretty dead already, the ]real question is how do we SAVE the demiurge?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's a bearded man and the snake body is the mouth to anus tube. I am yaldabaoth

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You defeat him by not sacrificing the spiritual world for material brownie points.
    The “demiurge” is manifest in financial/political/legal/influential(media) elites, and they don’t have to fight for power. If the entire world was you and your office, the demiurge would be your boss’s boss, and his minions are middle management. They work the system (of material procedures and punishments) to benefit themselves and detriment others. They have total control over the material world with material objects, and with words. In the spiritual world (the domain of human connection and shared intuition), they are powerless. Corporations will never be able to make someone forget the impersonality and lifelessness of a corporation; they can only provide transient pleasures and IOUs redeemable only to themselves.
    Build community. How? You know how.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The lionsnake is chnoubis and not the demiurge

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps by unfolding the cube into the cross

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Samael is a vaccine that God gives you to be safe from demons and darkness.
    Samael means Venom of God.
    Fight poison with poison.
    It's the black and white snakes that you see in symbolism.
    At first you get infected by the venom(black snake).
    Then Lucifer is the one that injects you with the anti-venom (white snake).

    But all of this is very far along the road.
    You guys will not understand any of it.
    Right now what you should do is sitting meditation every day and prayer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But all of this is very far along the road.
      Yeah, but it isn't though because I've never personally committed to any practice and am fully aware of these themes/symbols. Sorry anon, but you're not as far along as you think. I'm going to wager I'm still a silly newfag compared to most people that actually practice and these words just feel obvious to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Satan doesnt cast out satan anon

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A solid prayer regime:

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus defeats him at the second coming

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We accept that he is our brother and we are family.

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