243 thoughts on “How do I remain?

  1. Anonymous says:

    ‘feet health’ is the new redditor npc fad the stupids are pushing. All the braindead redditors are going crazy for it.
    I find this new wave of extreme health obsession hilarious.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Just go barefoot more often than not, simple as.

    It doesn’t mean being barefoot all the time, but everytime you’re not working.

  3. Anonymous says:

    >walk barefoot at home
    >wear barefoot shoes as much as possible (basically anywhere you don’t feel the need to impress people)
    >compromise a bit and wear regular shoes half a size up when you want to impress

    some barefoot shoes are okay-looking but they’re always a bit goofy, that’s just the reality of super thin soles and wide toe boxes
    also keep in mind that you will be perceived as being a bit shorter than you are, because everyone wears sneakers with 1+ inch soles, and boots add even more

        • Anonymous says:

          No it’s not, flat feet are not flixable, it’s a genetic trait.
          You can just work on the flexibility and consciouscly flexing your mini arch but as soon as you don’t think about flexing, it will collapse. Flat feet are only fixable by surgery.
          You should hide those stompers inside proper shoes hiding their deformity.

          • Anonymous says:

            There’s two kinds of flat feet. One kind is caused by bone deformity or fusing, which is incurable except by surgery. The other kind called "flexible flatfoot" has multiple causes. Some of those subtypes are curable with exercise alone. I am one of those people who was flatfooted until college, then did physical therapy (stretching and exercises) and now have a regular arched foot. It only took about a month of concentrated effort before it set in and I didn’t have to walk "manually" anymore. In my case I had no physical deformity at all, I was just walking with a flat foot by ignorance. I think it was related to autism and a lack of interest or natural self-reflection regarding my own gait.

      • Anonymous says:

        ugly as it is, I get the wide shoe
        but what the heck is up with your ankle
        why is your ankle wider than your toebox
        are you a misshapen downie

        • Anonymous says:

          You got some fat ass ankles man

          My man here is built like Wilson Fisk

          fatty

          I’m a recovering rubenesque rotund. Down from 138kg to 98kg, but my legs haven’t shrunk that much yet.
          My calves are 21 inches, and my thighs are 26 inches. If this keeps up, I’ll be walking around on tree trunks.

      • Anonymous says:

        Mine are even wider than this. I live in one of those cities where trendwatchers come to take photos of us just minding our business, going on about our lives, and turn whatever random shit to wear while we take out our trash into worldwide fashion trends. Eg. we turned Birkenstocks into something accepted on people who don’t identify as grandmas. So don’t worry /fashion/, healthy shoes with enough space for toes and a hard sole are going to be in fashion soon. Bespoke shoes aren’t necessarily expensive btw, so also look into finding a shoemaker.

        • Anonymous says:

          I couldn’t care less about "fashion". My feet feeling better in the last eight months than they have in the 30 prior years is all I need.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Be a skater and wear “és silo plus” there’s a few skate shoes that have somewhat wide toe boxes, vans are ok but don’t cut it if you want a shoe to fit like a glove but wide enough to keep your toes healthy and strong

    • Anonymous says:

      Walk barefoot as often as you can.
      Wear minimalist shoes when you don’t have to look presentable.
      Work out in minimalist shoes.
      Try to find minimalist shoes that don’t look super goofy. Lems Boulder Boot, ZAQQ qampion, vivo ra.
      Try to find conventional shoes that do not violate all three rules: wide toe box, flexible sole, no heel drop. Chucks for example have no heel drop.
      Wear conventional shoes when you have to look good and don’t move a lot. 8 hours of sitting in the office won’t deform your feet much.
      Try to space out events where you have to both look good and also have to put pressure on your feet.

      >If I ever catch one if you niggas wearing these ugly Redditor shoes I’m throwing hands right then and there
      I’m looking forward to it.

      • Anonymous says:

        you’re not mentioning any of the physical therapy that the shoes are an appendage of, and I think that explains the anger against barefoot shoes I see ITT.

        barefoot shoes simply don’t become comfortable to walk in until you start addressing the issues that brought you to them in the first place, which are of course no longer issues solely with your feet by this point, but whole-body structural issues.

        barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

        • Anonymous says:

          >barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

          king of the thread. in moderation and progression, they may help alone if your issue is primarily at the lower body, but even then, at least occasionally doing strengthening and/or stretching exercises in problem areas combined with minimalist footwear for correction of walking mechanics and endurance building is the ideal way to go.

          some people can go right into it without supplementation, but it can only help adding on additional work for strengthening and tissue extensibility in places that will need it during the transition

        • Anonymous says:

          >Also fix your feet.
          Valid. I made the transition in summer spending a lot of time walking around with no shoes. That worked really well for me.
          People who get their feet destroyed by minimalist footwear usually overdo it, because they think they wear "healthy shoes" now.
          You have to train to make the switch.

          >Try to find minimalist shoes that don’t look super goofy.

          Mind you, there are many now that don’t look goofy, along with the ones he mentioned.

          Such as:
          Flux
          Xero
          Feelgrounds

          Flux is a little less minimal from what I’ve seen, but has a wider toe box and zero-drop sole, so it seems to be a nice transitional shoe

          >Good recommendations
          Thanks anon. Much appreciated.

          I never liked the Boulder boot. I found the sole to be wanting in griping ability. Alternatively thier primal 2 and primal zens are my favorite. I recommend primal zens to anyone because the have the wide toe box and are zero drop but also have pretty good amount of cushion, which I like for my long walks in the city. Unfortunately a lot of Zaqqs can’t be shipped to the USA, I wish I could get some here

          >I don’t like the boulder boot.
          Understandable. I’m not a fan of MocToes, but I got them in brown and black for 38€ each so I have a lot of bias. These other Lems look really good.

      • Anonymous says:

        >Try to find minimalist shoes that don’t look super goofy.

        Mind you, there are many now that don’t look goofy, along with the ones he mentioned.

        Such as:
        Flux
        Xero
        Feelgrounds

        Flux is a little less minimal from what I’ve seen, but has a wider toe box and zero-drop sole, so it seems to be a nice transitional shoe

        • Anonymous says:

          Some of these actually look nice. Flux seem to be the only one reasonable for walking around on pavement all day though.

          nicks thurman last

          >yeah, just buy these heavy, $500+ logging boots with massive heels
          You’re an idiot. I mean that honestly.

          • Anonymous says:

            >recommend foot shaped shoes per poster’s request
            >get called an idiot

            sorry you feel for the redditor zero drop meme but I was just answering the question

      • Anonymous says:

        I never liked the Boulder boot. I found the sole to be wanting in griping ability. Alternatively thier primal 2 and primal zens are my favorite. I recommend primal zens to anyone because the have the wide toe box and are zero drop but also have pretty good amount of cushion, which I like for my long walks in the city. Unfortunately a lot of Zaqqs can’t be shipped to the USA, I wish I could get some here

  5. Anonymous says:

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    Buy these. I fell for the shark tank meme but they do work. Couple of days to get use to but you’ll notice the difference

  6. Anonymous says:

    How about something like this for foot health? I hear arch support is important. Then paired with a Munson last for the wide toe box.

    • Anonymous says:

      Healthy shoes are supposed to be as flat as possible, definitely no heels.

      https://i.imgur.com/Ima7oyl.jpg

      How do I remain /fashion/ and not sacrifice my foot health?

      I hecking hate how my toe hurt when I walk sometimes, I wish I had strong beautiful boy feet but I have a bunion and hammer toes or whatever the heck it’s called. Some of my toes are in slightly different positions and my toe bones have visible bone growth on them like some kind of bony veiny fingers of some old man. My life would unironically be 50% better if I had natural feet and I would barely have any problems at life, those toe problems from bad shoes are suicide fuel for me, I don’t pay attention to them now and I do the barefoot healthy things but when I think about them those bad feelings I feel towards my body always come back. Maybe one day my toes will get more stable and they will get back in place where they were supposed to be, I will forever have bony feet but if they will be in normal position then maybe I can live life without killing myself some day
      They should teach kids about this shit seriously. Nobody tells you about doing hip and ankle stretches or about correct shoes. I just always assumed I did everything normal until it was too late. I’m very passionate about this subject as you can see

        • Anonymous says:

          Probably, genes play a role too I guess but if I wore sandals when I was a teenager and kid then I would literally have better feet, my toes just bended in ways they shouldn’t because I had no idea how the human anatomy works back then. Yeah running and playing sports in not ideal shoes played a role too but I had flat feet too. If I walked barefoot then my feet would develop better. Also standing in a symmetrical way would help too.

        • Anonymous says:

          Alright now I feel less weird about being obsessed with this, good to know there are other people like me. Some people without any foot problems think it’s not normal and people shouldn’t pay so much attention to their feet but feet are the foundation of your body and toes are not just extra part of your feet so this feels like a big thing

          • Anonymous says:

            No it’s definitely valid, to use tumblr terminology. Kinda feel cursed as a foot fetishist to have less than optimal feet. And they are vitally important to good posture. Structurally unsound feet will have an echo effect in your knees, hips, spine, ribs, neck, and really brain. Anyway I’m drunk and I have a dildo to situate in myself so sayonara for now.

          • Anonymous says:

            >to use tumblr terminology.
            Wait I use Tumblr words without even realizing it? Nooo
            >Kinda feel cursed as a foot fetishist to have less than optimal feet
            So true, I’m not really a fetishist but I appreciate feet and I just think about their beauty and I’m OBSESSED with symmetry and feet anger my ’tism. I wouldn’t mind if a girl put her feet on my face though, I like sweaty things
            >Structurally unsound feet will have an echo effect in your knees, hips, spine, ribs, neck, and really brain.
            >Ribs
            Wait is the reason why my ribs are so thin compared to the rest of my body could be because of my unhealthy feet? Maybe, it’s messed up
            >Spine
            Maybe people who wear sandals all the time when they were kids were less likely to get scoliosis, it’s outrageous how children aren’t taught this at school, I guess doctors want people to suffer so they can make money out of physical rehabilitation and meds, ich liebe capitalism. Very messed up

          • Anonymous says:

            So, I’m not a medical professional so don’t take this as gospel, but as I understand it, collapsed arches are very often related to having inwardly pointing knees (knock knees but not necessarily as pronounced looking), which is related to an inward rotation of the femur at the hip. Conor Harris on YouTube explains it all pretty well. Basically, if you want to unheck your feet, you often also have to unheck your knees and hips.

            I don’t think feet have an impact on rib thickness, but bad posture will absolutely mess up your ribcage, look up "rib flare". I actually dunno about the hip-ribcage connection so maybe I got going too fast there.

          • Anonymous says:

            >Basically, if you want to unheck your feet, you often also have to unheck your knees and hips.
            I already stretch my hips but it would be good to do some knee exercises, like I avoid doing squats but maybe I’ll do something special to strengthen my ankle and knees and have more functional legs, like right now my ankle hurts after a walk. I’ll check those videos out, thanks fren. Hopefully it’ll get better. I wish one day I would have a body that doesn’t hurt at all and moves naturally and freely
            >rib flare
            I did exercises for that too and it’s mostly gone but it’s one of those things that never 100% goes away, I have to force my ribs back in place sometimes and it makes this disgusting noise when I do it and it hurts for a while but thankfully it’s mostly gone at least. I wouldn’t be surprised if my ribs are thin because of all my unnatural movements and bad posture
            I’ll proceed to worship your words, I already knew those things because I’m interested in them but thank you so much for reminding me to do those things

          • Anonymous says:

            No problem king, just remember that someday medical technology will have progressed to where everyone can have qtpa2t boifeet

            What did you do for rib flare? I’m assembling a spreadsheet with all my posture problems and methods of unhecking them. Wouldn’t mind sharing it if there were a way to do it without pasting my personal info on -hecking LULZ-.

          • Anonymous says:

            Watch youtube videos and shorts about this topic, you have to see for yourself. You have to push your ribs into your stomach and flex your abs while pushing those ribs inside with your muscles and flex your glutes (ass) to have that better posture and stability. Watch a youtube video that explains rib flare better. Also you can massage your abs, really squeeze those muscles all over, especially near that pelvis bone and push your fingers in it until it hurts to stretch those tendons and also train your abs a little. You can do proper planks while pushing in those ribs like explained in those videos. You need to fully activate your core. Once a guy noticed my rib flare was gone and he was amazed because he’s into this stuff too. Just don’t get lazy or it will come back sometimes and it’s annoying, you have to walk every day or every 2 days, if you lay in your bed all day or something then all your posture problems will start coming back after some time sadly and you will have to get your movement ability back, your body needs to get stronger or it will get muscle atrophy
            >someday medical technology will have progressed to where everyone can have qtpa2t boifeet
            I hope so, I want to transplant my brain to a Chad body or something but if they fixed my feet I would be extremely happy anyway, the foot fetish scientists need to work faster

          • Anonymous says:

            >collapsed arches are very often related to having inwardly pointing knees
            not a medical professional yet (student tho) and that makes sense if you try it. your feet flatten as you point your knees inward. that, coupled with shoes that don’t require high activation the intrinsic muscles of your foot, they begin to atrophy, and your arch goes with it

            >Basically, if you want to unheck your feet, you often also have to unheck your knees and hips.
            100%. the foot follows the knee and hip, and the knee and hip follow the foot. Wrecked alignment there can even lead to neck and/or jaw issues, it’s pretty gnarly.

      • Anonymous says:

        didn’t think anyone else here is like this, i am just like you kek. i do wear orthodics, and bounce back and forth from zero drop altras to new balance 990s. my feet are jacked
        >bunions
        >hammertoes
        >extremely high arches

  7. Anonymous says:

    PSA for anyone going to the gym. Gaining mobility in your toes is a game changer for your stability if you cant spread and move your toes like in the OP, get some toe spacers and practice regaining mobility in your toes. you’re welcome. I wouldn’t go so far as top say throw out your shoes, but having a pair of barefoot shoes in your rotation should be a no brainer

    • Anonymous says:

      wait, so you recognize the benefits of going barefoot, but not of wearing a shoe that gives the same benefits, while also protecting your sole?

      I’m confused.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not wearing any kind of shoes inside, including your ridiculous looking reddit barefoot shoes, also has the benefit of keeping your floor clean. What do you need to protect your sole from when
        you’re inside your own home, that house slippers can’t protect you from?
        This way you get to not look like a moron when going outside and to also not heck up your feet, while practicing better hygiene too.

    • Anonymous says:

      You stupid foriegn mongrel, most Americans don’t wear shoes in the house. Just because you saw it on friends when you were learning English doesn’t mean what you see in movies is true.

      • Anonymous says:

        heck off stupid
        I’m american and wear shoes in my house
        I even wear shoes to bed

        heck if I’m going to have cold feet in my own house

  8. Anonymous says:

    I wore barefoot shoes for the first time yesterday, walked for about 1.5 miles on asphalt as a test. My Achilles hurts on both feet

        • Anonymous says:

          well then I’m glad I caught you before you heck yourself up.
          you do not go from regular heeled shoes straight to taking mile long walks on asphalt.
          that is how you injure yourself and start ranting online about the big reddit conspiracy.

          you’re not mentioning any of the physical therapy that the shoes are an appendage of, and I think that explains the anger against barefoot shoes I see ITT.

          barefoot shoes simply don’t become comfortable to walk in until you start addressing the issues that brought you to them in the first place, which are of course no longer issues solely with your feet by this point, but whole-body structural issues.

          barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

          all the ankle stretches you should be doing no matter what, now you need to do or you will hurt yourself.
          start by walking on uneven ground, like a trail or at the park.
          that will shift your gait to more natural forefoot walking.

          I’ve been wearing barefoot shoes for about 3 years now, and it’s only become comfortable in this last year, as I’ve done PT to fix my ankles.

          • Anonymous says:

            Don’t care

            well then I’m glad I caught you before you heck yourself up.
            you do not go from regular heeled shoes straight to taking mile long walks on asphalt.
            that is how you injure yourself and start ranting online about the big reddit conspiracy.
            […]
            all the ankle stretches you should be doing no matter what, now you need to do or you will hurt yourself.
            start by walking on uneven ground, like a trail or at the park.
            that will shift your gait to more natural forefoot walking.

            I’ve been wearing barefoot shoes for about 3 years now, and it’s only become comfortable in this last year, as I’ve done PT to fix my ankles.

            So I’m supposed to do stretches?

          • Anonymous says:

            at least birkenstock clogs/sandals look nice
            i have similar toebox room wearing birkenstock boston but at least they have some kind of style to them
            this is a fashion board.

          • Anonymous says:

            you need stretches for the ankles, calves, shins, knees, quads, hips, all the way up lol
            I do calf raises
            ankle rotations
            toe raises
            child’s pose for the shins
            couch stretch for the quads
            frog pose for the hips

            do them whenever, but do a little every day, and you’ll be glad.

          • Anonymous says:

            the stretches […] mentioned are correct, also just gradually wearing the shoes more, and not immediately going to them fully will help you acclimate.

            also, walking "softer" will help a ton, especially because of your achilles pain. when your heel touches the ground with each step, do it a bit more gracefully (normal shoes are forgiving with force due to the cushioned/raised heels they have), and lower the foot with more control

            Alright thank you

            Crocs tbh

            Funnily enough I’ve walked multiple miles at a time with Crocs and didn’t get any pain at all

          • Anonymous says:

            Nah, I know a guy who hiked the entire AT in a few pairs of Crocs. If you wear a size that fits snugly it’s really no slouch, a croc can eat miles no problem

          • Anonymous says:

            you’re welcome.

            you may get some pain as you walk in them, but it should be maybe a little soreness, not anything sharp, intense, or a limit in motion.

            one of the ways that tendons strengthen is by being loaded in a stretched position, and barefoot shoes/barefoot maximizes that position as you walk (less/no heel rise), so over time they should get stronger.

          • Anonymous says:

            the stretches

            you need stretches for the ankles, calves, shins, knees, quads, hips, all the way up lol
            I do calf raises
            ankle rotations
            toe raises
            child’s pose for the shins
            couch stretch for the quads
            frog pose for the hips

            do them whenever, but do a little every day, and you’ll be glad.

            mentioned are correct, also just gradually wearing the shoes more, and not immediately going to them fully will help you acclimate.

            also, walking "softer" will help a ton, especially because of your achilles pain. when your heel touches the ground with each step, do it a bit more gracefully (normal shoes are forgiving with force due to the cushioned/raised heels they have), and lower the foot with more control

          • Anonymous says:

            You’re using muscles and tendons that are underdeveloped because of your reliance on cushioned heeled footwear necessitating a heelstrike. You’ll heck your feet up if you don’t do all the exercises.
            I thought I’d done enough. Apparently not and got plantar fasciitis because of it.
            Gave up and went back to my usual footwear.

    • Anonymous says:

      You have to ease yourself into barefoot shoes just like any other novel exercise. Your foot muscles have atrophied and need to be built up.

      • Anonymous says:

        >You have to ease yourself into barefoot shoes just like any other novel exercise. Your foot muscles have atrophied and need to be built up.

        This 100%. When I initially started (about 5 months in), I went a little overboard trying to wear them to work, and had some knee fatigue. Shortening my step length, walking softer, and of course time improved this, as the feet and calves are going to adapt and strengthen over this period. I haven’t felt it since.

    • Anonymous says:

      makes total sense if you’re used to wearing heeled footwear all day. by wering zero-drop shoes or goiing barefoot you will be stretching your achilles

  9. Anonymous says:

    vivo barefoot shoes with toe spacers are my current fix, ill never buy another brand of shoes, so fkn comfy and worth it and if your poor and cant throw 200 for the shoes you can goto revivo for refurbished ones.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Alright, this one is a weird one. Have a family member who is in extreme pain when standing, and it is NOT plantar fasciitis, three doctors have agreed with that. But they haven’t given a diagnosis other than one said "tight tendons" and no stretches. Paid out for custom expensive orthodontics and it just delays the pain, but it eventually comes in and is described as "torturous." They haven’t been able to stand or walk large amounts since a young age. What stretches should we be pursuing, and should a neurologist be next?

    • Anonymous says:

      nowhere on this site should you be seeking medical advice.
      the heck could we say that 3 doctors failed to say?

      I prescribe murder-suicide.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey man, I figured I would try. Couldn’t hurt at this point if anyone knew that it sounded like them or someone else and could help me give the advice to someone else.

        • Anonymous says:

          Have them see a sports doctor if they haven’t already. A good podiatrist should be fine, but sports doctors often deal with more unusual injuries/recovery procedures. Sounds like they might need some form of organized rehab versus just self-care stretching and exercise.

          https://i.imgur.com/bW6gbIW.png

          forgot pic

          These are almost exactly what I want, I just wish is it was designed more traditionally rather than having a “modern” look.

          • Anonymous says:

            >designed more traditionally
            For zero-drop shoes I’ve only come across these two brands that have a welted sewn construction
            https://jimgreenfootwear.com/store/african-ranger-barefoot-boot-houston-brown/
            https://conkershoes.com/about-conker/barefoot-shoes/

          • Anonymous says:

            I just bought a pair of these. I have big stupid clown feet and I am tired of pretending I don’t. That and I have been working from home bare foot for the last year and a half and my feet have gotten real W I D E.

    • Anonymous says:

      Cant really give solid advice but orthotics are a bandaid solution and weaken foot muscles in the long run. could be a genetic thing or it could be a bad footwear history thing

      • Anonymous says:

        >orthotics are a bandaid solution and weaken foot muscles in the long run.
        Is that also true of orthopedic footwear like birks?

        • Anonymous says:

          not the same anon, but any shoe with an arch support is basically doing the job that your own arches should do.
          So yeah, they weaken your feet, like walking with clutches weakens your legs.

    • Anonymous says:

      have they ever developed ulcerations at their ankles, specifically the inner ankles?

      i’m unsure as to how early venous insufficiency could occur in someone, maybe it can be congenital, but pain in standing could possibly be that, provided it’s more than just the feet, and if it’s relieved with the feet elevated

    • Anonymous says:

      Tendons an you can start by having him massage the muscle surrounding the pain and then stretch as far as possible without pain

  11. Anonymous says:

    Anyone have any input on how to strengthen and raise the transverse arch? Mine is pretty flat, and everything I can find is on the main longitudinal one.

    • Anonymous says:

      based on the main muscles that attach to the transverse arch what they do
      – fibularis longus (does ankle eversion)
      – tibialis posterior (plantarflexion and inversion)

      you can do ankle eversion for fib longus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHyEHEwgc6A

      and for tibialis posterior, you can do calve raises, and the same as that video, but with the foot inverting, instead.

  12. Anonymous says:

    few non-barefoot shoes fit me well because I have very wide soles while most manufacturers make shoes for people with torpedo feet for some hecking reason

  13. Anonymous says:

    >tfw feetsoles turn you more on than tits or ass
    >on summertime it’s literally similar like girls walking naked around with they flip flops or sandals

  14. Anonymous says:

    I haven’t wore tight shoes for decades and my big toe hurts like hell when I curl it to pull my neet slippers on. Not nice! Take the tight pill!

  15. Anonymous says:

    I tried to run in barefoot shoes and it caused searing nerve pain in both feet. When I got in bed on the first night, my feet were burning and tingling like the soles were on fire. It’s been a couple days of rest with light walking and stretching and they have been recovering but it was pretty scary, I thought I would have permanent nerve damage

      • Anonymous says:

        I learned that I’ll need to train slower than expected and be more cautious than I thought, but I wouldn’t say I learned a lesson. My mindset, goals, and philosophy haven’t changed.

        • Anonymous says:

          >I learned that I’ll need to train slower than expected and be more cautious…
          that is the lesson, and you (hopefully) have learned it.

          I’ve been wearing barefoot shoes for 3 years, and even I do not run in them, I wear cushioned running shoes.

          I would go as far as to say that running barefoot should either be your goal from beginning, knowing that it would be years before you can do it safely, or it shouldn’t be done at all.

          • Anonymous says:

            What kind of terrain do you run in?
            I’m doing trail running, so while it really hits my legs hard, I’m not feeling the impacts as much.

            Interesting, I’m surprised it is expected to take so long. I was running on flat pavement in the city when the bad thing happened.

          • Anonymous says:

            I was put in wrong shoes my entire childhood, and continued to wear the wrong shoes as an adult. 34 hecking years until I found out about barefoot shoes (always prefered walking/running barefoot as a kid, and while at home), so yeah, there’s some damage to be undone.
            >flat pavement
            Don’t know about the thickness on your soles, but I’d get some shoes with a thicker soles for that. Mine are as thin as they can get, and I’d never run on pavement.

          • Anonymous says:

            see

            you’re not mentioning any of the physical therapy that the shoes are an appendage of, and I think that explains the anger against barefoot shoes I see ITT.

            barefoot shoes simply don’t become comfortable to walk in until you start addressing the issues that brought you to them in the first place, which are of course no longer issues solely with your feet by this point, but whole-body structural issues.

            barefoot shoes are not a solution, they are a tool you use in conjunction with other tools to achieve health.

            you need stretches for the ankles, calves, shins, knees, quads, hips, all the way up lol
            I do calf raises
            ankle rotations
            toe raises
            child’s pose for the shins
            couch stretch for the quads
            frog pose for the hips

            do them whenever, but do a little every day, and you’ll be glad.

    • Anonymous says:

      I learned that I’ll need to train slower than expected and be more cautious than I thought, but I wouldn’t say I learned a lesson. My mindset, goals, and philosophy haven’t changed.

      Damn, son. I got my barefoot shoes in may, and it’s only now my feet feels somewhat ready to start some light jogging.

      • Anonymous says:

        It was about 2 or 3 weeks of walking around in them before I tried it. The word "run" is definitely a misnomer though, I was just doing brief periods of jogging in between stretches of walking. I didn’t feel like I was going that hard so I was really surprised by the outcome. I’m hoping that this is not revealing an underlying permanent issue or deformity with my feet that I can’t get past with exercise and stretching.

        • Anonymous says:

          What kind of terrain do you run in?
          I’m doing trail running, so while it really hits my legs hard, I’m not feeling the impacts as much.

  16. Anonymous says:

    if you can pull them off, Turkish leather shoes are barefoot shaped.

    I don’t really have a brand to recommend, they were recommended to me by a friend who buys secondhand.

  17. Anonymous says:

    the only truly footshaped shoes

    https://www.earthingmoccasins.com/

    in the beginning it looks terrible
    but you get used to it

      • Anonymous says:

        https://www.earthingmoccasins.com/collections/leather
        full-grain aniline leather

        that store is particular in that it provides sewing kits with instructions and leather for people to sew their own shoes from self-made patterns. they do made-to-order, too.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Are these shoes good for foot health? They’re no drops but I have another pair and the toe box is way bigger than on these ones.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have a few whitins, and while they’re not as good as my vivobarefoots, they’re like 1/3 the price.
      I wear them out in about 8 months, then they become beach shoes.

    • Anonymous says:

      Some Whitins have been said to not have a wide toebox, and these look like one of the models that have a more narrow toebox

      I’ve started with whitins and they’ve definitely challenged my feet and adaptation to barefoot shoes, they’re even better with the insole out once you’re ready to do so, IMO
      – I have two pairs of these, and the toe box is wide https://www.amazon.com/WHITIN-Barefoot-Sneakers-Minimalist-Breathable/dp/B0BRN1GMXX/ref=sr_1_9?crid=2YD1LM19BM0IR&keywords=whitin%2Bshoes&qid=1704334293&sprefix=whitin%2Bshoe%2Caps%2C118&sr=8-9&th=1

      • Anonymous says:

        This is my other pair of wide toes, which is what got me suspicious of the whitins. Maybe my feet are just slim though because I feel there is lots of room in both pairs

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