How do Christians deal with the fact that the mustard seed is not actually the smallest of seeds, contrary to Rabbi Yeshua's teaching?
How do Christians deal with the fact that the mustard seed is not actually the smallest of seeds, contrary to Rabbi Yeshua's teaching?
Is this really the best you can do OP?
>Jesus is God
>God is all knowing
>Makes a silly mistake like this
He's got a point.
>this post is so low effort and easily refuted
>doesn't refute it
that's not the epic argument you think it is champ
who the fuck washes their hands in the restroom before eating? does your kitchen sink work?
Also consider that this was ancient middle east and they were about to eat with their hands, and the followers of ben pantera were begging him to wash his hands, ergo his hands must have been literally covered in shit.
Jesus also discourages people from washing their hands before a meal because he considered that pharisee shit.
i mean...do you watch your hands before you eat? like your wife sets the plate down at the table and go to the bathroom to wash your hands and then comes back. when food gets served during thanksgiving with all your family they all go line up at your bathroom and everyone spends the next 10 minutes washing their hands?
yes people wash their hands before they eat. Youre disgusting.
you sit down at a restaurant with your extended family for a birthday party and then everyone gets up from the table and goes to the bathroom to wash their hands? do you talk about it and decide who will go first so they can watch the girls purses?
most restaurants have hand sanitizer patches or devices on standby. seriously, you are fucking gross and you trying so hard to defend rabbi yeshua ben pantera is pathetic.
so you all go line up at the hand sanitizer station instead of the bathroom? you demand that the waitress bring you a dozen patches or whatever? how many times in your personal life in a no theoretical way have you done that?
yes you fucking cretin.
>foodsafety.gov
>Protect yourself and your family by washing your hands at these key times: Before, during, and after preparing food. Before eating. After handling pets, pet food, or pet treats.
when you were in school youre entire class lined up to wash their hands before eating in the cafeteria?
but seriously how old are you and whats your social status? you sound autistic and think that foodsafety.gov represents the actual fact of the world. have you never been to a restaurant before? have you never been to a party in your life? im not really asking you these questions you retarded autist, they are rhetorical questions because its obviously not what happens. people wash their hands after using the bathroom and whenever they get dirty. they dont all go wash their hands before picking up a fork
Unbelievable. Christcucks think washing their hands before a meal is a israeli conspiracy. They cant admit that a fictional rabbi during the ancient period didnt know what germs were and gave retarded advice.
heres more evidence for how common this is
You're literally wasting your time with this pointless argument anon. You know damn well there's nothing wrong with eating with dirty hands. This person is just desperate for an argument of any kind.
>You know damn well there's nothing wrong with eating with dirty hands.
yes there is. there is literally a 20 million view on youtube about educating kids to wash their hands before a meal
im seriously wondering if im just being trolled now.
>You know damn well there's nothing wrong with acting like a pig
Yeah there is. You lack basic hygiene and it's one of the reasons why your dick is untouched.
I don't wash my hands unless I just handled gross shit, which is never.oh and I don't get sick either.
I wash my hands with sanitizer. My girlfriend does too. It's normal.
so this is the power of Bharat
>anon confused by people actually getting up and washing their hands before eating
Grim
Retard. That was ritual cleansing. Just dipping hands in water. They did the same thing after interacting with Gentiles.
Not washing hands in the mundane sense, stupid ass.
It was ritual cleansing, but incidentally would be a good thing to do anyways before eating.
He wasn't forbidding cleaning. He was pointing out their extra laws in every single aspect of life, 24/7, that foisted burdens on everyone and obsessed about pointless gestures of purity.
The same point was being made when he told them their stringent rules on the Sabbath were flawed. Where rabbis would kvetch about people getting healed on the Sabbath, or helping a crippled mule, because that was "work". Where ritualistic religion became a "higher thing" than what was actually right and ethical.
If you claim to be Christian (I don't know if you do), you should refrain from that sort of bad language. Furthermore, if you are claiming to be a Christian, then I would take this as an opportunity to look at your life and to see if you are bearing good fruit in keeping with being born again. If not, then you should be worried. Cry out to God and ask to be freed from sin, and trust in Christ as your only Lord and Saviour.
I'm at war in a place like this. I act accordingly. There's zero point in being nice to anyone who habitually antagonizes Christ and his Church. Half of the time you're talking to the demon possessed. You're a deluded Protestant who's been convinced you can "save" the damned with niceties and have flawed ideas like "soul winning". That they can have some singular "come to Jesus" moment and be saved, if you just have the right words or apologetics. But they can not be saved by you or me. Only a miracle from God's election will drag them out of the pit, and it will take their whole lives afterwards to be saved on top of that. Just like it will me or you.
Know who your real enemies and get out of my face.
We don't have to. It was the smallest seed used by the Hebrews as Jesus said.
>"used by the hebrews" added in a fit of mental gymnastics.
>"see this quark-sized seed that i took from planet Xawjarazic of the Black Eye Galaxy? It is the smallest of seed in the entire universe yet it can grow as big an oak!"
>"b-but jesus you gave nothing in your hand... and what are quarks and universes?"
isn't he omnipotent? couldn't he make them understand?
I don't know what's worse, OP's dumb argument or the fact that Answers in Genesis had to write a whole damn article debunking this argument:
https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/are-mustard-seeds-the-smallest-or-was-jesus-wrong/
The Bible is not a science book. Jesus was not trying to teach people about the taxonomy of seed-bearing plants lmao
quoting from the article:
>Evolutionists are assuming that the seed sizes we observe in the present were the same in the past. It is quite possible that some or all of the plants with smaller seeds had yet to differentiate into the species we observe today. The israeliteel orchids, for example, might not have branched from the originally created orchid kind at the point Jesus made his statement
lol. "hurr durr it might have been true back then".
Read the verse:
>31 He put another parable before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his field. 32 It is the smallest of all seeds, but when it has grown it is larger than all the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make nests in its branches.”
Matthew 13:31-32
The mustard seed was indeed the smallest seed to be sown. There are smaller seeds, obviously, but these seeds were not sown. Jesus was absolutely correct to say that the mustard seed is the smallest seed to be sown, and this is why it was chosen in this particular parable.
>It is the smallest of all seeds, but...
>the smallest seed to be sown
>would have been common in every day life in a largely agricultural society
>He's talking about the smallest seed known to his audience.
>And what does it even matter
>Don't waste your time and energy arguing in threads like this.
>Half of the time you're talking to the demon possessed.
wew, this is embarrassing
>The Bible is not a science book
then why does AIG say it contradicts evolution?
Because they're dumb. I was mocking them lol
He's talking about the smallest seed known to his audience. And what does it even matter to a modern audience whether the mustard seed is really the smallest seed in the entire world?
I don't believe Jesus is God, and he sure as hell did not know that orchids or whatever have smaller seeds. But this is just so silly of an argument. He's making an analogy using things his audience can relate to, with what is the smallest seed any person in 1st century Galilee are going to be familiar with, it's not a lecture on plant taxonomy. The audience is most definitely not armature botanists. You're actually trying to read the Bible in the same way that AIG does right now.
>He's talking about the smallest seed known to his audience.
nope, the text is clear. THE smallest seed, ever. no qualifications. stop the cope. the goatfucker who put together the story was simply ignorant.
>And what does it even matter to a modern audience whether the mustard seed is really the smallest seed in the entire world?
there are still morons who believe this shit. are you telling us we should not hurt their pwecious feefees?
Are you under the impression Jesus was teaching his audience what the smallest seed was? No, he was using the mustard seed as an example because it would have been common in every day life in a largely agricultural society.
Also, do you think if I say you are the biggest embarrassment to atheism that I mean it literally? Are you going to come back and say "WELL ACKSHUALLY THIS ATHEIST IN AUSTRALIA HAS AN IQ OF 50. MY IQ IS 75."
I'm all for pointing out where the Bible is wrong, but the premise of a fucking parable? Come on.
>there are still morons who believe this shit. are you telling us we should not hurt their pwecious feefees?
I'm saying you should stop embarrassing yourself by reading the Bible like someone at AIG. It's just a bad argument and I have no clue why you would think this is the best gotcha you can come up with.
He is God, so Sneed and feed.
jesus a) did ot know or b) knowingly made a mistake when he said this?
the simple explanation is that whoever made up the story was fucking ignorant.
did Jesus not know that more educated people would be reading his words thousands of years later?
Tu le dirías
A las montañas
Muévanse, muévanse, muévansee.
Is this the best you can do? taking it into context, he was speaking to illiterate Hebrew workers and farmers. He would use metaphors compatible with them. Get a life.
was calling a Canaanite woman a dog and saying she was only fit to eat the crumbs that fell off the table of the israelites also a metaphor Mr. damage control? :*~~)
well yeah if she was a Canaanite woman there's no way she was literally a dog.
Threads like this are done intentionally to try and drain Christians of energy and get them frustrated. Don't waste your time and energy arguing in threads like this. Use common sense.
im surprised you didnt say "dont cast pearls before swine" like all you christcucks like to spam.
I'm not surprised you're this desperate for an argument. Rent free.
can the hand-washing discussion just fuck off into another thread? you fuckers are drawing away attention from the embarrasment of 33% of gawd not knowing botanics, which is the actual topic of this thread.
By chimping out and destroying a pagan temple.
What the hell is he going to say? Some algae spore that can only be found in Antarctica?
he could just not say "the smallest seed"
we know mustard seeds are tiny
Dear Lord.
I think even the pharisees and sadducees would be embarrassed reading this thread
>magic israelite book personally authored by a magic israelite in the sky
>oh except that bit
it was the smallest seed that his followers were aware of. giving a biology lecture about things no one has ever heard of would not assist in preaching his message.
Wow this question is really confusing for the average christian. Now my whole world view is shattered.
It was true back then though because the Bible is infallible.
neck massreply trannybots
>And he said, “With what can we compare the kingdom of God, or what parable shall we use for it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when sown on the ground, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth, yet when it is sown it grows up and becomes larger than all the garden plants and puts out large branches, so that the birds of the air can make nests in its shade.”
Mark 4:30-32
The Kingdom of Heaven is the smallest of all seeds, which Jesus has planted on the earth to grow and be the largest tree, the spreading of the Gospel is the establishing of God's Kingdom on earth, the birds of the air are the believers. Jesus was prohesizing that Christianity would become the largest religion on earth, and started in the smallest way possible, with just a bunch of people walking around in Judea.
God, some days I am truly ashamed to call myself a Christian...