LULZ / LGBTQ

How did we get to this point?

How did we get to this point?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People decided to acknowledge reality.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    by letting n-words anally fuck our white sons

  3. 4 weeks ago
    01001101 01000100 01000110

    I agree with Matt Walsh on some stuff... disagree with him on that though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I agree with the guy who is famous for one thing and only one thing
      >But I don't agree with him on that one thing

      T.genius

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You agree with a fascist?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That was always their goal

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the Truth.

    Society never really gains anything of value in Children transitioning.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >children
      Did you read the tweet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      less psychotic hons = less ugliness in the society = better society

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are still Psychotic and this time more delusionally empowered and enabled.
        No one really passed and less ugly is so self gain and narcissitic reasoning.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          transition helps especially if they transition earlier.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It helps no one but thier delusional selves.
            they will age so transitioning earlier is pointless

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              transitioning early absolutely makes a big difference.

              http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696
              >CONCLUSIONS: A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides gender dysphoric youth who seek gender reassignment from early puberty, the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults.
              Preliminary longitudinal data suggests that carefully screened transgender people who transition as children and have supportive parents are not any more suicidal than the average person.

              https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277556010_Intervenable_factors_associated_with_suicide_risk_in_transgender_persons_A_respondent_driven_sampling_study_in_Ontario_Canada
              > Among those who desired medical transition, those on hormone therapy were about half as likely to have seriously considered suicide (RR=0.52; 95 % CI: 0.37, 0.75).

              https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423
              >In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years, receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality compared with youths who had not, over a 12-month follow-up.

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/
              >Forty‐nine people died by suicide: 41 trans women (0.8%) and 8 trans men (0.3%), which is 64 per 100 000 person years in trans women and 29 per 100 000 person years in trans men. Four suicide deaths occurred in individuals who were referred to the clinic before the age of 18 (0.2%), which is a lower risk than in adults (0.7%, P = 0.010).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of this is just Narcissitic Self Gain

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                conversely please explain how trying to control another persons bodily autonomy is not narcissistic self gain?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Robin

                >confronted with evidence
                >"Here's an unrelated comment because I have no interest in my opinion being influenced by the facts, actually"
                you're all see-through, every one of you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Based factshon

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Among those who desired medical transition, those on hormone therapy were about half as likely to have seriously considered suicide

                so should we just chemically castrate all suicidal men then? doesn't it semm kinda weird to you how men in general have higher testosterone than women AND are also more suicidal than them?
                You show me this subset of suicidal men who are less suicidal after chemical castration and I am to believe this is just working because of appeasing their urge to wear dresses and may not at all be some generalized mechanism we could find in all men which just got leveraged?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it worked on all men, it would be at least offered as a treatment. That's how medicinal science works.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                imagine proposing that study - not gonna happen. but it makes absolute sense, castrated males become for peaceful and docile, somebody who's hell bent on taking himself out will probably get too lazy or even content for doing that. In reverse, many anti depressants are known to "spike" in a way which makes patients actually more likely to off themselves for a certain adjustment period because they get their "drive" back which makes them just act out what they wanted to do all the time before but couldn't.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is a cope.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for what? im neither trans nor depressive, just gay and hate trannys.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's why it's a cope. You're unwilling to accept that transitioning is a valid medical treatment produced by a reasonably functional institution.

                Also, a quick google would reveal that survivors of testicular cancer (and an orchidectomy) actually have a significantly increased rate of suicide.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the fuck up homosexual
                The things they say about trannies now they said about dykes and fags a few decades ago

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I act faggy and take heat for sexing men
                >I act faggy and take heat for sexing men and tell everyone it's okay because imma whammen

                same difference, uncle tom.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >uncle tom
                How am I an Uncle Tom?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                by trying to join hetero-normative society by cramming yourself (a gay male) into the social role of a woman.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the fuck are you talking about?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What the fuck are you talking about?

                about

                >passing
                >going stealth

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're literally fucking retarded, transbians take the most heat and they have sex with women

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nobody cares about your shit tier retard theories homosexual

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no one cares, sodomite

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine proposing surgery to help people with gender dysphoria
                Oh, wait

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hm, you may be right, we may see the "does castration alleviate depressive symptoms" study after all because of our Zeitgeist, thanks for uncucking science into it's pre ww2 amoral state.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, cismen do not like estrogen. it only works for trans people. and it works better than any ssri

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they will age so transitioning earlier is pointless
              /pol/tards unironically believe this

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >narcissim
          reddit's that way homosexual, wanting to look good is completely healthy and normal

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No one really passed
          >t. Clocks tons of cissies
          Lol
          >less ugly is so self gain and narcissitic reasoning
          Except it's basically the numbers one justification for discrimination against trannies, " look at this ugly MONSTER do you want them around your KIDS?!??"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everything they're targeting is HSTS (young transitioners) not hons.

        Rhetoric is around youth but everything is against the most vulnerable (teenagers)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Matt wants to ban all transition for adults

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    by letting n-words anally fuck our white sons

    People decided to acknowledge reality.

    lick my taint

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bet, wya?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me - shaq
    Matt Walrus- the guy getting dunked on

    Transgender lesbian who respects all women. You're a danger to children for filling their parents heads with hate and misinformation. The results are in, Matt Walrus...you ARE the groomer!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Forgot the most important part

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Forgot the most important part

      wtf ddoes this MEAN??

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a metaphor.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pls elaborate im confuse

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's me dunking on Matt Walsh because despite what he says and garbage he promotes I'm still a woman who respects women. Matt Walsh hates LGBTQ+ people, specifically transgender people. Probably because he's insecure about his own identity. Matt thinks that I'm not a woman because I don't give birth or look/act the way a "woman is supposed to" but what Matt Walsh fails to understand is that there are 7 billion people on this earth and we all don't look or act the same.

            Tl;dr Matt is an insecure dumbass and I'm a valid transgender lesbian

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              AGP rapehons are the least valid troons

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm asexual, and I don't care what you think.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    We let soulless npc’s take charge.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      let me lick your taint, frogman

  9. 4 weeks ago
    charlotte

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    Wdym "get to this point"? Right wingers have been wholly transparent about this from the beginning, they hate all trannies regardless of how much they suck up to them & they want us to be "normal" either bc of their sand religion or their weird obsession with being "normal" themselves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True but it feels like they've gotten much bolder and more transparent about their aims. They're moving beyond the "think of the children" rhetoric surprisingly quick

      • 4 weeks ago
        charlotte

        No Anon, they're really not they were always transparent just less of a spotlight was on them.
        Right wing groups being funded by evangelical christians in the US and Britain in the past 5 years has turned trannies into the next manufactured rage after they lost on the gays.
        It's worse rn because it's a midterm election year in America.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eightwingers have getting much bolder
        didn you check the trans movement in the last 4 years? kek and remember that this shit started because you homosexuals want to larp in female sports, know your boundaries

        • 4 weeks ago
          HSAGPST Queen

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          I have no boundaries and I WILL fuck your dad and become your new step mommy.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they're
        It's Matt Walsh and some other retard. Be careful. Matt makes a move to escalate and in response you may as well. Then before you know it this actually becomes a legit talking point that you helped become a thing. Mattress Walsh made a student film. Let him gloat a bit and then ignore him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >their weird obsession with being "normal" themselves.
      probably this. they are angry lil balls of shame that cant handle a free society for risk of being free themselves

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No we just don't want you going after our kids and convince them to cut of their dick and get a reeking constantly healing axe wound there instead.

        I've read so many stories of people detransitioning, ranging from people starting before to whilst to after puberty, and each story broke my heart because they all were convinced that it would be THE solution to all their struggles, that it would make them EXACTLY as they want.

        This practice is unhealthy, it's literally biologically damaging. You get more brittle bones for MtF, you get way higher risks of ovary cancers for FtM, and regardless of what, you're peeling off multiple years off of your lifetime.

        You guys are claiming to be the "good guys" and "just wanting freedom", well, your freedom ends where other's starts, and completely censoring any criticism and gaslighting vulnerable people into joining your cause seems like a good example of that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we just don't want you going after our kids and convince them to cut of their dick
          Prove this is happening without referring to the daily mail or Andy Ngo stories.

          >I've read so many stories
          How many have you personally verified? We're they anonymous Reddit screencaps? Why are you so bullshit?

          > muh HRT is dangerous!!!
          lmao
          stop taking Tylenol then you know it can hurt your liver?

          >well, your freedom ends where other's starts, and completely censoring any criticism
          How? All trans criticism exists and gets millions of views every day.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brittle bones is meme and being an eunuch is good for your life expectancy. The younger you are castrated the more extra years you get. This has beeb studied a LOT and there's staggering historical evidence.

          • 4 weeks ago
            HSAGPST Queen

            Chuds will never accept that their precious Testosterino is what shortens men's lifespans relative to women. "Noooo not my heckin man juice that makes me a big based boy it is good for meeeee"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you going after our kids and convince them to cut of their dick
          It's not a good idea to perform srs too young even if you want it. Only conservapedos want to cut up kids genitals to circumcise them or "correct" intersex kids.
          >reeking constantly healing axe wound
          Lol every single thing you base your worldview on is completely wrong BS that MISC made up.
          You are an npc.
          Oh and axe wound was already an insult for cis vaginas lol.
          >I've read so many stories of people detransitioning
          Yeah, you rely on circle jerking over ancedotes because the actual stats diagree with your feels.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No we just don't want you going after our kids

          I feel bad for any children of people like yourself. Growing up with PD laden, controlling, emotionally immature parents is a prime concoction for a mentally fucked up kid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I feel bad for any children of people like yourself. Growing up with PD laden, controlling, emotionally immature parents is a prime concoction for a mentally fucked up kid.

            Yes thats exactly it. Wanting to stop your kids getting hormones and messing up their development and not wanting fag propangada shoved down their throat is literally hitler.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they want us to be "normal" either bc of their sand religion or their weird obsession with being "normal" themselves.

      Take a long hard look in the mirror, troon.

      >Likes men and dressing up
      >people tell him to stop on the grounds of being a man
      >huh... I surely must be a woman then, surely people will let me be if I can appease them by mutilating myself in the pursuit of looking like a girl

      >kek, look at those conformist conservatives telling me to stand up for myself as an individual.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Likes men and dressing up
        >people tell him to stop on the grounds of being a man
        >huh... I surely must be a woman then

        tell me why you believe this is how trannyism perpetrates

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tell me why you believe this is how trannyism perpetrates
          I'm gay, I know how internalized homophobia works.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one told me to stop crossdressing when I thought I was cis.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should've, cross-dressing is an abomination.

          Deuteronomy 22:5

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do I see so many people on this website reciting false texts? My brother, it is not too late for you. Read the true word of God, the Quran, before you are too far gone on this path of lies. Inshallah your soul shall be saved.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    charlotte

    My real advice to anyone who feels like the whole world is suddenly against them is to touch grass kinda. IRL nobody cares nearly as much about trannies as the internet (especially social media like tttt, Twitter etc) will lead you to believe, no well adjusted person has 8 days a week to seethe about queer people even if they aren't "accepting"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      the gov workers and pharmacists who have given me trouble for being a troon beg to differ. getting a name change out here has been a hassle so far

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought people like this were all about personal freedom and no government control?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      You're thinking of libertarians, not Republicans
      T. Libertarian tranny

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Disclaimer: I’m a poltard and I just come here to watch trannys suffering but Sometimes I just HAVE to answer you fags, Ok first of all: you alphabet homosexuals do realize that this goes both ways right? Like yeah the right wing guys like me got angrier and angrier at you guys over time and it does show more but…you do understand there’s a reason for our hate right? Yeah there’s a religious reason and there’s all the other “bigotry” you guys talk about and all that BUT the main reason for us to be angry at you guys is simply: in the early 2000s when you guys tried to legalize gay marriage and succeeded a lot of people laughed at the dumb religious fundamentalists which stated this would lead to a slippery slope which would encourage homo behavior and would soon give way to more extreme forms of unacceptable behavior…like troons and pedos and shit…and at the time I was one of the guys that laughed at those religious fundamentalists…I’m not laughing anymore man, they were fucking right, like there are minor laws being passed that lighten the punishment for pedophiles and the transgender phenomenon which was fairly small simply exploded, like the right winged people both the moderate average and extreme ones…kinda wouldn’t be mad at you guys if you simply didn’t threatened their future kids with the absurd Shit you guys preach, like no right winger really gives a shit about trannys just existing and doing their own thing…but you guys don’t want to do your own thing you want to convince that right winged dudes son that he’s a troon like you…in short you guys want to spread your degeneracy instead of just keeping to yourselves, which is why we hate you more and more

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not reading that essay

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        'me no likey, me no likey = bad'

        glad i could help

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you want us dead and you've always wanted us dead, regardless of how we behave

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      holy fucking shit you're a schizo
      unbroken wall of text just repeating "YOURE ALL PEDOPHILES GOING AFTER OUR KIDS!!!"

      who told you this "fact" about us btw?
      trans and gay kids have always existed and people like you have always abused them, sent them to abuse camps, kicked them out of your home's.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ben Shapiro told me you're evil
      >therefore you're all evil and need to die

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop posting leftist memes you dumb commie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bruh, rule #1 of trolling is don't come out of the gate malding, here's a (you) for being a good lolcow though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they don't understand man, they say "i'm a troon at home, not a pedophile, not my problem" but they don't realize that there are a lot of bad actors that exploit them, and want to spread retarded ideologies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this applies to religion as well anon, your argument doesn't hold up

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and trannism is not a religion, but you treat it as such. I'm not religious, but the worst thing that can happen to a child that learn chirstianity is believing in daddy god, having a family, fucking only after marriage, make children, don't cheat, forgive the other and shit like that. Instead the tranny ideology is that, you have some feminine attitudes, are you sure that you are a male? Don't you feel more like your mom? Don't you want to explore your sexuality, don't you desire to have a vagina? Maybe you can change your body with drugs and surergy? We are hated and repressed, people want to kill us! Now imagine teaching to 5-6yo like you want to do, wouldn't this confuse the hell out of children and make them overthink stuff even if they are dysphoric? Teach this shit when they start adolescence and they are confused, don't confuse them when they are childs, is not so hard to get. The truth is that trannism as a religion is destructive, like the individuals that take part of it, and on a side note if everyone was a homosexualtranny you would not have anymore umans in 1 generation

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the worst thing that can happen to a child that learn chirstianity is believing in daddy god, having a family, fucking only after marriage, make children, don't cheat, forgive the other and shit like that
            this is absolutely not the worst possible outcome of being raised Christian
            t. was raised Christian
            >Now imagine teaching to 5-6yo like you want to do
            stop strawmanning kek, middle school health class is a perfectly reasonable place for any of this shit to be taught
            >if everyone was a homosexualtranny you would not have anymore umans in 1 generation
            what

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              is not strawmanning, because you are confusing 1000 children to maybe get the message to 1 dysphoric, believe me that no middleschooler want to know wtf a tranny is, 99% of them would be wired out or do strange mental trips, maybe focus on educating parents more instead of children in school. And yeah if everyone was a homosexualtranny we would have 0 humans

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              >poltards still don't know
              you'd think they would by now, but I guess not

              I forgot ~~*Hirschfeld*~~ another nice piece of shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And yeah if everyone was a homosexualtranny we would have 0 humans
                you are an incoherent midwit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is an unrealistic fantasy scenario monkey, trannies don't procreate, max they can convert, and I have seen enough stories here to how "normal people" were convinced to do it, by a gf, or friends, some leftist circles, bad family story of abuse and shit like that, is just sad, since some people are just mentally weak and get swindled, they aren't even real dysphoric

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >trannies don't procreate

                trannies have babies all the time
                infertile people also exist and yet infertile people still keep being born due to random mutation and birth conditions.
                trannies will always exist.
                everything you think you know is wrong and based on lies sold to you by Christian conservatives and schizos.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                damn you are dumb as a rock, din't even get my point

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not them but upur dumb wrong point wa s that trannies cna only continue by converting cis people, which is dumb and wrong.
                You trie e to prop up your point with several false claims that the other anon btfo so now you're just trying to deflect and save face.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i love how it's all "i heard" or "they say"
                it always is

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and? there are even more stories of "always felt this way since i was a little boy". do you lend those the same credibility as the stories of grooming?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I have seen enough stories here to how "normal people"
                >but johnny never SEEMED gay, he just really liked fashion and theater and cheering for the boys in sports! Someone must have converted him!!!
                Lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://mobile.twitter.com/mapesthorson
                Link related and her wife have 3 kids

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because you are confusing 1000 children to maybe get the message to 1 dysphoric

                Prove that it confuses them. prove that hearing that trannies exist turns a cis person trans.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >kid who thinks he can turn into a dinosaur or power ranger if he tries hard enough totally understands gender roles and differences at age 5
                lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument or evidence, just a strawman
                Yikes!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are confusing adults, let alone children

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I SAID PROVE IT YOU STUPID CUNT. Prove your fucking claims. Your word isn't divine fucking truth. Post some evidence that's not the fucking daily mail.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                conservatives literally say their feelings don't care about the facts every day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but you cant prove that it benefits all children to be be taught about it so why are you acting like this?
                your position isnt based on proof, gd is a delusion and no other delusion gets treated by encouraging it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it confuses kids
                >prove it
                >UH UH UHHHH UHHHH NO U

                you fucking RETARD lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                im not the guy you were responding to
                if you ask for people to disprove you you should prove your own position

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying it benefits all children. The specific claim was that it confuses children and this was unable to be proven. Then he started talking about dicks and penises to deflect.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if it is not demonstrably proven it benefits children and adolescents in the middle of puberty it shouldnt be introduced to them by the education system
                the insistence something like gd, which is massively controversial among adults, should be taught in school to minors is what makes people oppose you
                he might not be able to prove to you that kids get confused but you probably understand why someone would say the subject would be confusing to kids when its not a settled issue in psycholgy, let alone adult society at large while being the biggest source of controversy by far in the overall lgbt community

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if it is not demonstrably proven it benefits children and adolescents in the middle of puberty it shouldnt be introduced to them
                that wasn't your claim. you said it confuses kids. prove that statement for your simp then. don't say shit you can't back homosexual. something being controversial for adults doesn't mean kids care about it.

                >Lots of kids take in information
                You can't prove this either, that's my point. There is no study either way that kids understand it or not. But based on Occam's razor, they probably don't considering they are children. Your own argument has no proof behind it either.

                >can't prove it
                Then he shouldn't have said it.

                have you ever been a kid? You weren't never cofused? Didn't religion class not confuse the shit out of you? Like I said I don't have a research paper, so is up to you, but teaching 8yo john that his friend jimmy might be called jenna tomorrow and to consider him like their friend anna, even if you have peed togheter since 4 yo, might be a bit confusing, even more so if you explain that there are certain people that are born in the worng body, and for example if you liked to play more with females, that might be you. And you can't prove the contrary either
                [...]
                >srs can't be considered an abusive therapy instead

                >haven't you ever been a kid
                Know what confused me as a kid? Being told so was a boy and can't play with my sister's toys.

                >I don't have a research paper
                Facts don't care about your feelings, cunt. Nobody gives a shit what your opinion is.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Know what confused me
                >personal anecdote is fact over feelings
                lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My statement about my past doesn't mean anything. Neither does yours.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My statement about my past doesn't mean anything
                Not sure why you said it then.

                >Neither does yours
                Never said anything about my past, nor did the person you responded to.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ancedotes are BAD when anyone but me uses them!
                Lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Facts don't care about your feelings, cunt.
                talks about his feelings using his story, kys really and how did you become a tranny homosexual?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that wasn't your claim. you said it confuses kids.
                you already know i didnt say that, your own position that gd should be taught in schools because its beneficial to children is not provable, which sets the bar for the kind of responses you will be recieving
                >something being controversial for adults doesn't mean kids care about it.
                just like saying it confuses kids cant be scientifically proven, what you said here cant
                gd is not provable either, so youre clearly only concerned with proof whenever you feel like it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >your own position that gd should be taught in schools because its beneficial to children is not provable,
                I never even fucking said that.

                and trannism is not a religion, but you treat it as such. I'm not religious, but the worst thing that can happen to a child that learn chirstianity is believing in daddy god, having a family, fucking only after marriage, make children, don't cheat, forgive the other and shit like that. Instead the tranny ideology is that, you have some feminine attitudes, are you sure that you are a male? Don't you feel more like your mom? Don't you want to explore your sexuality, don't you desire to have a vagina? Maybe you can change your body with drugs and surergy? We are hated and repressed, people want to kill us! Now imagine teaching to 5-6yo like you want to do, wouldn't this confuse the hell out of children and make them overthink stuff even if they are dysphoric? Teach this shit when they start adolescence and they are confused, don't confuse them when they are childs, is not so hard to get. The truth is that trannism as a religion is destructive, like the individuals that take part of it, and on a side note if everyone was a homosexualtranny you would not have anymore umans in 1 generation

                however made multiple claims he could not prove.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeha but if they don't lie then how can they argue against you?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you ask for a lot of proofs for someone that can't believe that having a penis makes you a male and never a female, is personal observations, but I will pubbilsh my paper in the future so you will be happy

                i love how it's all "i heard" or "they say"
                it always is

                what I have to say? "I was"? No I'm not a tranny, is just things that other trannies have told me or read here or in other boards, tell me your story, how did you become one if you even are one?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1000 children to maybe get the message to 1 dysphoric
                Except it's basically the opposite, you wanna abuse and torture and molest 10000 trans kids just in case one cis kid gets confused and has to transition back with potentially less than ideal results like you want for all trannies.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                educate the parents, not the children at school, made them transition when they understand their bodies, not when they don't even know what the fuck they really want, and if numbers still mean something, you are risking to harm the mjority to "save" the minority

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >educate the parents, not the children at school
                Yeah, don't teach the kids about trannies or gays or evolution or the germ theory of disease or the round earth because you might trigger some fundy!
                Hell, i was talking with a MISCtard the other day who said the solution for MISCtards chimping out and mass shotting up schools and churches and markets is that we should just get rid of public schools altogether!
                Finally your kids will be free from the harsh light of truth!
                >made them transition when they understand their bodies
                You are making up lies to justify your retarded ideas.
                >you are risking to harm
                You still have yet to provide ANY evidence of this harm that exist only in your head and which you use to justify harm against lgbt kids.
                You don't care about kids, just your own dumb triggered feels.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            that's not the worst case and you know it
            faith is poison
            in my opinion hrt should have the same restrictions as military service/drug use/marriage etc

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im a moderate conservative and you raise an important point, we were promised society wouldn’t fundamentally change during the 2000s due to LGBT acceptance. Slippery slope is a logical fallacy right? The zoom zooms have no clue what the early 2000s were like but I remember a little. They went back on their word. So I don’t really blame the conservatives for freaking out.

      That being said, I’m rather black pilled. Conservatives conserve nothing so why should gender be any different? I’m starting to wonder what the point is? If anything trans acceptance is so radical it actually punishes women for their equity feminist subversion. It’s unconventionally conservative in other words.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how has society changed? there's still just .5% trannies. everything else is propaganda and fearmongering. half of you fucks think trannies were invented in 2015

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even in just here in LULZ we used to have homosexualS and FURRIES but now we got TRANNIES.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexualS and FURRIES but now we got TRANNIES.
            guess what happened to the homosexuals and furries? they trooned out

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well that happened to a lot of people. So not so .5% anymroe huh

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                do you think the entire population is browsing LULZ

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you happen to browse the most popular social media known as twitter?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                twitter is not the most popular social media site. In fact, following global rankings, it's the 15th most popular social media site.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                Prove it.

                Do you happen to browse the most popular social media known as twitter?

                Twitter isn't anywhere near the most popular

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So when I just open whatsapp or youtube I am now using "social media" even thought I am not sharing content or watching anyone elses messages. SOCIAL

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >linetrap doesn't exist

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.opindia.com/2021/03/canadian-man-jailed-for-calling-his-biologically-female-child-as-daughter/amp/

          Your showing your youth haha. When I was a child in the 90s there was no LGBT resources for youth. Trans kids were unheard of. Trans teens were unheard of. Trans adults were very rare. Early transitioners we’re over 18 HSTSs in some major cities. We’ve gone from a LGBT blackout to awareness and tolerance to show admiration or else. You see all these corporate pride things during pride month? Much rarer during the 2000s. Homosexuality was an adult alternate lifestyle we tolerated because why the fuck not? They can’t help it. Their not asking us to take part in it. Their not asking children to take part in it either. That sure changed fast!

          That link I posted? People would be storming government building if this was happening in the 90s.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This father was already divorced and abusing his child in other ways. You still haven't shown that the number of trannies have increased much past .5%. Concede your point.

            Disowning LGBT kids is also more looked down upon now than it was in the 90s but it doesn't mean that it was a good thing anon.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > This father was already divorced and abusing his child in other ways

              Sorry bro I’m from BC and I wouldn’t trust anything a BC judge has to say at this point. If the BC government says someone is bad their probably not that terribly bad ya know?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay anon good for you!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      don't care didn't read

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >force children into a repressive lifestyle
      >beat them and abuse them if they don't comply
      >justify your crimes via religious doctrine and 'muh kids, muh rights'
      >treat your kids like property instead of humans
      >literally sell off your kids in arranged marriages
      >some of these marriages are even underage
      >cover up pedophilia in religious and/or educational institutions
      >blame it all on the troons and homos
      the evangelicals of the US are a cancerous tumour, i have more respect for the muslim fundies of the east because at least they don't pretend it's under some guise of protecting children. it's just an overwhelming sense of shame and acts of pathetic servility to an edomite sand demon, this thin veneer of pretending there's some enlightened centrist position on the topic wherein 'both sides bad' all just serves to dress it up. in fact, it's even more simple than scripture, it's just a baseline disgust reaction extrapolated to borderline fascistic policy, there is no real justification for these policies just a lizard-tier understanding of the world, no amount of cringe compilations or conservative podcasts will change that. they don't care about the children, they're fucking them for god sake. they're beating them, they're poisoning them, they're shoving them in jail and divorcing them from loving homes. if the evangelicals weren't cowards they'd just take the fucking mask off already. the catholics aren't much better either for that matter.

      that's the true degeneracy within the country, not some hon in a skirt, not some aids monkey shitting on a dick or whatever. it's people pretending to care about others, only to rape and murder them for their own gain. the 'right wing' (whatever the fuck that means, I don't see the conservatives of the UK pulling this shit) is by far the most degenerate political wing by far. let the individual live how they want to live. it's none of your fucking business.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And that's based and a good thing.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >evangelical are cancer so therefore nothing else can be criticized, least of all my precious trannies
        the amount of people who dont give a fuck about or even actively support hoosexuality while being against trannies massively outnumber religious fundies
        youre just doing mental gymnastics because you dont wanna wrongthink

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like no right winger really gives a shit about trannys just existing and doing their own thing
      You know MISC isn't actually a secret club, right?
      We can see how you talk about us there even if you didn't regularly come here to tell us directly.
      Who do you think you're fooling?

      Oh and
      >le pedos!
      When MISCtards aren't projecting pedophilia on everyone they don't like they quickly switch to saying age of consenwwt is a gnomish conspiracy against them and it's perfectly trad and based to be attracted to pre-puberty girls and groom them into being tradwives.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's right. It's butchery. The accountability is not there, and it's taking advantage of desperate mentally ill people who have been convinced things would be better when in most cases it's a lifetime of medical procedures.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how is HRT butchery?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's butchery.
      tell me how i know you are pro gun

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people should not be allowed the freedom to do what they want with their body because I don't like it

    I don't like Walsh being alive. He should change that

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    When you started indoctrinating children. Of course Conservatives are going for your jugular now, you dumb fucks. Couldn’t have left well enough alone. You just had to fuck with their children. Right-Wingers will remember this for the rest of their lives and not forgive.

    Nice work, LGBT Community.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. There is so much mutilation and manipulation in America that it is simply disgusting. I wish the courts would stand up for not mutilating babies and finally outlaw dangerous ideologies like Christianity once and for all.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based. I hate trannies and christcucks.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I hate trannies
          >transgender board
          >no flag
          Fuck off then, you're obsessed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >accusing trannies of indoctrinating and grooming children
      >gay flag
      the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he is straight lol, he just uses that blue gay flag because its a meme to shit on ftms now i think

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Brought some competition to the grooming game and they need to use gang tactics to try and get rid of the competition because they know they are too inadequate to compete

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >You just had to fuck with their children

      http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/07/sissy.boy.experiment/index.html

      Kirk Andrew Murphy seemed to have everything to live for. He had a successful 8-year career in the Air Force. After the service, he landed a high profile position with an American finance company in India. But in 2003 at age 38, Kirk Murphy took his own life.

      Kirk Murphy was a bright 5-year-old boy, growing up near Los Angeles in the 1970s. "He was just very intelligent, and a sweet, sweet, child." "Playing with the girls' toys, and probably picking up little effeminate, well, like stroking the hair, the long hair and stuff. It just bothered me that maybe he was picking up maybe too many feminine traits." She said it bothered her because she wanted Kirk to grow up and have "a normal life."

      He was treated by George A. Rekers, a doctoral student at the time. The study, later published in an academic journal, concludes that after therapy, "Kraig's" feminine behavior was gone and he became "indistinguishable from any other boy."

      The therapists instructed Kirk's parents to use poker chips as a system of rewards and punishments. According to Rekers' case study, blue chips were given for masculine behavior and would bring rewards, such as candy. But the red chips, given for effeminate behavior, resulted in "physical punishment by spanking from the father." Maris remembers "lots of belt incidents." She escaped the screaming by going to her bed to "lay in the room with my pillow on my head." Later, she would go to Kirk's bedroom and "lay down and hug him and we would just lay there, and the thing that I remember is that he never even showed anger. He was just numb." During one particularly harsh punishment, their mother recalls, her husband "spanked" Kirk "so hard that he had welts up and down his back and on his buttocks."

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jesus, poor girl ;_;

        • 4 weeks ago
          Nitra

          I doubt he was a girl

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        The best part is, they didn't even assume he was trans in the first place. They were trying to prevent him from turning gay.

        >durr people don't hate gays for the same reason they hate trannies we have nothing to do with each other drop le T!!!!

        • 4 weeks ago
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          they were trying to prevent both - both conversion therapists and conservatives think gays and trannies are sourced from the same source of degeneracy. tranny to them is just mega-gayness

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I know, that's what I'm saying. In their eyes we're exactly the same.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tranny to them is just mega-gayness
            Except in kids it is. Gay kids show more tranny traits than gay traits, which they would have normally grown out of but within the last ~5 years there is a push to transition children instead of letting them be gay.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You don't really believe this right? Please tell me you're just trolling.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              >which they would have normally grown out of

              everything you think you know is wrong. you are a disgusting fuck.

              https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

              >This school of thought holds that because the criteria for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria (previously called gender identity disorder) was less stringent in the past, the earlier desistance studies included a large cohort of children who today would not be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, gay boys who may have been experimenting with different ways of expressing gender but who were never really transgender in the first place.

              >In 2013, Steensma co-authored an oft-cited study that examined 127 adolescents, all of whom had displayed various levels of gender dysphoria as children. The researchers found that 80 of the children had desisted by the ages of 15 and 16. That works out to 63 percent of kids who basically stopped being transgender — a lower rate than in previous studies, but still a majority.

              >Some clinicians criticize this study, however, on methodological grounds, because the researchers defined anyone who did not return to their clinic as desisting. Fifty-two of the children classified as desisters or their parents did send back questionnaires showing the subjects’ present lack of gender dysphoria. But 28 neither responded nor could be tracked down.

              >In addition, 38 of the 127 kids were originally designated “subthreshold” for gender identity disorder, meaning they did not fulfill all the criteria for meeting the official diagnosis.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                and the man who invented this "most kids grow out of it!" was an abusive conversion therapist

                https://www.npr.org/2008/05/07/90247842/two-families-grapple-with-sons-gender-preferences

                >He was covered in blood. A gash on his forehead ran deep into his hairline. "Two 10-year-old boys had thrown him off some playground equipment across the pavement because he'd been playing with a Barbie doll, and they called him a girl," Carol says. "So that sort of struck me, that, you know, if he doesn't learn to socialize with both males and females ... he was going to get hurt."

                >Zucker explained to Carol that she and her husband would have to radically change their parenting. Bradley would no longer be allowed to spend time with girls. He would no longer be allowed to play with girlish toys or pretend that he was a female character. Zucker said that all of these activities were dangerous. By the time Bradley started therapy he was almost 6 years old, and Carol had a house full of Barbie dolls and Polly Pockets. She now had to remove them.

                >"He was much more emotional. He didn't want to go to school anymore. Just the smallest thing could send him into a major crying fit. He really struggles with the color pink. He can't even really look at pink. He's like an addict. He's like, 'Mommy, don't take me there! Close my eyes! Cover my eyes! I can't see that stuff; it's all pink!'

                >He's still a bit defensive if we ask him, 'Do you want to be a girl?' He's like 'No, NO! I'm happy being a boy.' He gives us that sort of stock answer. I'm still quite certain that he is with the girls all the time at school, and so he knows to behave one way at school, and then when he comes home, there's a different set of expectations."

                this is what matt Walsh wants to do to LGBT kids

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                It honestly is bizarre that conservatives keep denying gay and trans kids exist at all when they've supported an entire industry centered around targeting them for 50+ years

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see umberto eco, ur-fascism

                https://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There's no such thing as kids who want to be the opposite sex!! Kids never think about that sexual deranged shit!
                >Anyways we need to set up clinics to cure all these weird kids who want to be the opposite sex even back in the 1960s

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are such kids, it's just usually they grow out of it once they learn to know themselves and understand whst it is to be a boy or a girl

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                They don't grow out of it. We already went over this.

                https://i.4cdn.org/lgbt/1654647435776.jpg

                >Jesse Singal
                Lmao. Zucker did this shit all the time, pic related, and assumed desistance numbers. Singal is just a fucking shill and completely anti trans and has refused to even acknowledge Zucker performed any conversion practices at all.

                Modern studies by non-conversion non-abusive therapy clinics show 95% persistence rates

                https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2021-056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition

                "We found that an average of 5 years after their initial social transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once. At the end of this period, most youth identified as binary transgender youth (94%), including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before returning to their binary transgender identity. 2.5% of youth identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later cisgender identities were more common amongst youth whose initial social transition occurred before age 6 years; the retransition often occurred before age 10."

                "The present study examined the rate of retransition and current gender identities of 317 initially-transgender youth (208 transgender girls, 109 transgender boys; M=8.1 years at start of study) participating in a longitudinal study, the Trans Youth Project. Data were reported by youth and their parents through in-person or online visits or via email or phone correspondence."

                According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2020 impact factor of 7.124, ranking it #4 out of 119 journals in the category of pediatrics.

                https://i.4cdn.org/lgbt/1654645922701.jpg

                >which they would have normally grown out of

                everything you think you know is wrong. you are a disgusting fuck.

                https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

                >This school of thought holds that because the criteria for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria (previously called gender identity disorder) was less stringent in the past, the earlier desistance studies included a large cohort of children who today would not be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, gay boys who may have been experimenting with different ways of expressing gender but who were never really transgender in the first place.

                >In 2013, Steensma co-authored an oft-cited study that examined 127 adolescents, all of whom had displayed various levels of gender dysphoria as children. The researchers found that 80 of the children had desisted by the ages of 15 and 16. That works out to 63 percent of kids who basically stopped being transgender — a lower rate than in previous studies, but still a majority.

                >Some clinicians criticize this study, however, on methodological grounds, because the researchers defined anyone who did not return to their clinic as desisting. Fifty-two of the children classified as desisters or their parents did send back questionnaires showing the subjects’ present lack of gender dysphoria. But 28 neither responded nor could be tracked down.

                >In addition, 38 of the 127 kids were originally designated “subthreshold” for gender identity disorder, meaning they did not fulfill all the criteria for meeting the official diagnosis.

                the only time they ever "grow out of it" is when you only diagnose based on GID and use conversion therapy, ie. abuse

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the only time
                You cited studies that show that a majority do.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon, the picrels that person is using are describing the practices of the clinics that got those numbers. not random similar clinics, those exact same clinics. why don't you acknowledge the abhorrence of their practices? doctor knows best?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I cited a study that showed the major persist, anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No you cited a study that was already with trans kids, then the other study you cited they may not have agreed with the results, but still showed kids indeed did grow out of it.

                >Zucker abuses kids for decades
                >Zucker says his patients desist by fudging numbers and getting extremely low client retention
                >Please believe this dude!
                lol

                >Zucker
                Not even talking about that one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                What study are you fucking talking about now? The Steensma study was analyzing kids from CAMH - zuckers clinic. it also analyzed kids from a Netherland clinic that was explicitly copying zuckers methods. it's conversion therapy data.

                Remember, if you sterile a kid and raise him in a constantly affirming environment, then show discontent when they decide they might not want to do it after years of it, that is totally not convincing a kid to follow a set path.
                >this never happened
                Jazz Jennings on Barbara Walters.

                >conjecture
                If set paths existed then David Reimer wouldnt have gone back to live as a boy.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If set paths existed then David Reimer wouldnt have gone back to live as a boy.
                He stopped seeing the doctor as a teen. Jazz is in the spotlight to this day.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Zucker abuses kids for decades
                >Zucker says his patients desist by fudging numbers and getting extremely low client retention
                >Please believe this dude!
                lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's just usually they grow out of it
                Untrue, you are either lying or didn't care enough about the truth to research it before making assumptions.
                Either way you are scum trying to hurt kids.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and the man who invented gender was an abusive pedophile, but you still suck his cumwords like is law, so what is your point?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >poltards still don't know
                you'd think they would by now, but I guess not

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is about transsexuality (which is older than gender) you dumbfuck, gender has no place here, you don't get it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                The word gender was literally used before money ever did anything. Money was anti trans and worked with Richard Green to perform conversion therapy on kids. He believed there was no such thing as innate identity which is anti trans.

                Everything you think you know was fed to you by right wing propagandists. You've never done any research yourself. You probably think Money was gnomish too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Robin

                you're brain-poisoned, John Money is hated by trans people worldwide, and most people on this board don't even believe in such thing as an innate gender identity, it's a spook, stop believing fed lies

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                stonetoss and Matt Walsh told them money was a tra so it must be true, though! why would they lie to them???

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Leave it to MISCtards to be the only ones dumb enough to fall for their own disinformation lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                factually incorrect, and you know that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Romanian twink

                >Sartre
                What a homosexual shabbas goyim. Kys if you like that shit. READ A REAL PHILOSOPHER

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not most kids, it's actually 63% of them in this biased study the other way!
                Not convincing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Give a better countersource then

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay

                >https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/441784/the-controversial-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth
                >The researchers found that 80 of the children had desisted by the ages of 15 and 16. That works out to 63 percent of kids who basically stopped being transgender — a lower rate than in previous studies, but still a majority.

                Your own source is good enough paired with the original. Even with the added bias in the other direction it was still majority desistance.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >anon doesn't know the difference between GID and GD
                nobody tell him

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're literally the same thing, just the name changed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                HAHAHAHAHAHAH NO WAY

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enlighten me then with your made up definition

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+the+difference+between+gender+identity+disorder+and+gender+dysphoria

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                not the same thing
                GID was designed by Green and Zucker themselves to be as wide and sweeping as possible, to target any GNC behavior as potentially trans. GD is more specific and requires things like disliking anatomy and wanting to actually be the opposite sex.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+the+difference+between+gender+identity+disorder+and+gender+dysphoria

                GD was phased out similarly to how aspergers was phased out. Yes the criteria changed but now it is encompassing, grandfathered in so to speak. There is only GID.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry the other way around, it's late as fuck.
                inb4 someone starts crying that I switched it up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes the stigma of GID still hangs around sadly. and GD isn't perfect either. it did help get Zucker fired though and more things can be done to improve the diagnosis

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But regardless they are the same. That's just how diagnosis work. That anon wasn't wrong.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But regardless they are the same. That's just how diagnosis work. That anon wasn't wrong.
                do you not know how diagnoses work
                the criteria for the 2 are very different
                use google

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >use google
                I went to school for this. I don't need google as my armchair. The diagnosis is essentially the same with the updated manual. Some practitioners like using the old one so they don't confuse the patient, but essentially it's treated the same internally.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then maybe consult the dsm before saying dumb things

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I did. In fact that's what you disagreed with but what I said is fact, the new diagnosis replaces the old one when treated. Sorry you can't accept that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The difference in criteria between the two is very large. You aren't a troon just for being gnc.
                I'm not going to hold your hand here. Use google before saying stupid things.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The difference in criteria between the two is very large
                One is grandfathered in and is an old diagnosis.

                >You aren't a troon just for being gnc
                Completely irrelevant to this conversation. You really have no idea what you're talking about and are just saying things to talk.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                google

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Should I read the DSM to the outraged crown of parents surrounding me, demanding blood?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >study done in tranny kid world states they don't grow out of it.
                Yeah I don't believe you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why? The study literally falsified data and assumed they desisted with no verification. Why do you believe it? Because of your feelings?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>Some clinicians criticize this study, however, on methodological grounds, because the researchers defined anyone who did not return to their clinic as desisting. Fifty-two of the children classified as desisters or their parents did send back questionnaires showing the subjects’ present lack of gender dysphoria. But 28 neither responded nor could be tracked down.
                that's an outright lie

                https://medium.com/@jesse.singal/everyone-myself-included-has-been-misreading-the-single-biggest-study-on-childhood-gender-8b6b3d82dcf3

                > Now, we could be forgiven for thinking they simply assumed those 80 kids were desisters — that paragraph above really is written in a confusing way. But if you read the study closely — always read the study closely! — it’s clear this isn’t what happened. Here’s what’s in the very next paragraph: “All 47 persisters participated in the study. Of the 80 desisters, 46 adolescents sent back the questioners (57.5%) and 6 (7.5%) adolescents refused to participate, but allowed their parents to fill out the parent questionnaires. Twenty-eight adolescents were classified as nonresponders: 12 (15%) did not send back the questionnaires despite follow-up contacts, another 12 (15.0%) were untraceable. In 4 cases (5.0%), the adolescents and the parents indicated that the GD from the past remitted, but these individuals refused to participate.”

                > It is confusing phrasing but in this sentence, and elsewhere in the paper, that’s basically what they mean. So what they’re saying here is that they were able to get in touch with 52 of the adolescents or their parents and get followup data from them — including, quite usefully for our purposes, measures of their gender dysphoria. Plus, four others didn’t want to participate but did say that their or their kids’ dysphoria had “remitted” — or desisted, if you like.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >Jesse Singal
                Lmao. Zucker did this shit all the time, pic related, and assumed desistance numbers. Singal is just a fucking shill and completely anti trans and has refused to even acknowledge Zucker performed any conversion practices at all.

                Modern studies by non-conversion non-abusive therapy clinics show 95% persistence rates

                https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2021-056082/186992/Gender-Identity-5-Years-After-Social-Transition

                "We found that an average of 5 years after their initial social transition, 7.3% of youth had retransitioned at least once. At the end of this period, most youth identified as binary transgender youth (94%), including 1.3% who retransitioned to another identity before returning to their binary transgender identity. 2.5% of youth identified as cisgender and 3.5% as nonbinary. Later cisgender identities were more common amongst youth whose initial social transition occurred before age 6 years; the retransition often occurred before age 10."

                "The present study examined the rate of retransition and current gender identities of 317 initially-transgender youth (208 transgender girls, 109 transgender boys; M=8.1 years at start of study) participating in a longitudinal study, the Trans Youth Project. Data were reported by youth and their parents through in-person or online visits or via email or phone correspondence."

                According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2020 impact factor of 7.124, ranking it #4 out of 119 journals in the category of pediatrics.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        >NOOOOO YOURE A HECKIN CHILD GROOOMERINOOO
        >NOOO WE CANT LET THE CHILDREN BE THEMSELVES NOOO
        >NOOOO THEY NEED TO BE MINI VERSIONS OF MEE NOOOO

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Glad my parents didn't decide to fuck my entire life because I liked playing beanie babies with the girls

      • 4 weeks ago
        venusanon

        christ that poor kid

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is what conservapedos want for EVERY SINGLE gay, trans, or gender nonconforming child.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. They never learn. Conservatives would have left abortion alone too if people weren't gleefully talking about it. But they always overreach.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Conservatives would have left abortion alone too
        Lol 1/10

        we are involved in a war right now, biden is giving billions of dollars to our eastern military colony while infrastructure here fails. Zelenskyy gets anything he wants while holding his people hostage, and we can't even get baby formula.

        >while holding his people hostage
        Ivan bot pls go.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont care. conservatives should be lined against a wall and shot like the genocidal inbred pedophiles they are. Maybe the rest of us would finally be safe if we stopped tolerating them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying the right were ever OK with gay rights from the beginning and aren't just using this as an excuse to undo the social progress they haven't been able to prevent over the last few generations

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The more you push, the more likely it will be undone. Everything comes in cycles and this has happened before with other things. The cycle is shorter if you push harder.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's no cycle. The boomers are going to die off and far right zoomers will be too small a minority to achieve anything, especially if they keep having mass shooting spergouts that make them look insane.
          It's unironically the end of history.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes and boomers will be replaced by now-30 and now-40 year old people. And guess what people tend to stop being left leaning the older they get.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Except the definition of what is left is changing. So the now-30 and now-40 year old people aren't going to be doing anything other than complain about what progressives are pushing 20 years from now. Unless the boomers are the final generation to think they can futility conserve anything in a rapidly changing, interconnected, and globalised world.
              Just as the printing press cucked the Vatican's monopoly control over Europe and allowed protestantism to proliferate, the internet will cuck conservatards attempts to preserve and enforce traditional values.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I wonder why really, makes you think...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >don't say gay to my child bride!
      Lol

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    democrats decided to elect a dementia ridden conservative and the Right realized this is their time to push everything through. Thanks for enabling genocide just like in the 20s, liberals.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or we could have had Trump who is a friend of Putin and we would be involved in a war right now. I hate them both, here are my qualifications for a suitable president.

      At the very least a LGBTQ+ ally
      Not over 35
      Vegan(for the environment instead of pretending to give a shit about the planet, actually doing something about it)
      Pacifist, not someone who glorifies war

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we are involved in a war right now, biden is giving billions of dollars to our eastern military colony while infrastructure here fails. Zelenskyy gets anything he wants while holding his people hostage, and we can't even get baby formula.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine isn't getting any money. US military is

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay. we are involved in a war. Are you done?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Amerikkka will never see an "pacifist" president, its leaders must serve the interests of the world's largest military-industrial complex.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, unfortunately...

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's his deal? he's not a repressor, why is he hysterical about trans?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bigots always thought this, trannies are just the new hot social issue to distract from lack of actual policy and solutions.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    this is what the average conservative thinks about trannies

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we always were there lol, do you think these people were pro-hrt 5 years ago? It's just the center of their meme culture war rn so theyre vocal about it. Christshits are quickly becoming a minority though and they do not have any cultural capital, they wont win

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the honest truth is they don’t care. they don’t like transsexuals because it doesn’t fit their narrative.

    they will take it away, and they can, and they know that if they do, well, the suicide rate speaks for itself.

    we’re fucked, and if you don’t think we are, then you’re fucked too. it’s a purely emotionally-driven argument, just like homophobia was/is. there’s no stopping it, and it’s gonna get bad

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    He lives in the twitter meta, he's not a real human being in the real world. In fact, his presence in modern culture only exists because of another person, Ben Shapiro. Stop building this bigot's platform and giving him money. If you see or hear from him or his fans, ignore him/them. Unless you actually want to make him popular and give him money.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is all your fault tbh, you keep pushing CIS people's buttons and being an annoying mentally ill fucks and they push back
    In Europe trannies are much more silent, rare and less groomy than in America and of course people don't care about them, you should learn from them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cis isn't an acronym you retard

      >Europe
      ever look at the fucking UK or Poland

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The UK is not Europe it's the USA and nobody cares about trannies in Poland they just don't want American style pride and social movements

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hungary is an EU country that's literally one of very few counntries to actually legally ban transition. Not even Russia does that which is very much against lgbt-culture.

          But you're right that Poland doesn't count, it's more comparable to what Russia is doing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I spent a few years in Japan, the LGBT scene there was a lot more respectful too. Yes flamboyant but coming back to the US and seeing gay flags everywhere was bizarre. They never acted that way.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japanese conaervatives don't also talk about them like pol does because their culture isn't infected with violent braindead evangelical christianity. it takes two to stop a reaction.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Japanese conaervatives don't also talk about them
          Oh yes they do lmao. You have no idea, Japanese conservatives are way more conservative than Western conservatives.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            do they talk like

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            this is what the average conservative thinks about trannies

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes and no, they're more the type to want them simply put to death than the rest of the theatrics.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The majority of western Europe is atheist and LGBT in Europe is not as deranged and common as in the USA, how do you cope?
          France is majority atheist and 60% of people believe in great replacement theory for example which in America is a fringe alt right belief

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Trans women are women
    >Muh pronouns
    >Trans women should compete in women sports
    >Kids should transition
    >Expose kinder garden children to hecking wholesome drag queens
    >Hahaha this person/character is trans and you cannot tell me otherwise
    >Hahaha egg irl amirite
    > I need representation despite being more rare statistically than people with different colored eyes
    >I'm won't fucking stop talking about being trans
    >I'm going to dress slutty/femme despite not passing in public

    Bubububu 🙁 what have we done to earn people's hate we dindunnuffin

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you quoting?

      you ask for a lot of proofs for someone that can't believe that having a penis makes you a male and never a female, is personal observations, but I will pubbilsh my paper in the future so you will be happy
      [...]
      what I have to say? "I was"? No I'm not a tranny, is just things that other trannies have told me or read here or in other boards, tell me your story, how did you become one if you even are one?

      >make a claim
      >can't prove it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        prove the contrary then

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, you said teaching this stuff confuses kids. Prove that it does. Convince me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but I haven't seen any studies showing either. Occam's razor is that children are confused at everything, so this isn't something that would withstand that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Occaams razor
              So your opinion? Lots of kids take in information without any issue at all. This discussion is fucking worthless if retarded cunts can just make statements and expecting everyone else to just take their fucking word for it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lots of kids take in information
                You can't prove this either, that's my point. There is no study either way that kids understand it or not. But based on Occam's razor, they probably don't considering they are children. Your own argument has no proof behind it either.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have you ever been a kid? You weren't never cofused? Didn't religion class not confuse the shit out of you? Like I said I don't have a research paper, so is up to you, but teaching 8yo john that his friend jimmy might be called jenna tomorrow and to consider him like their friend anna, even if you have peed togheter since 4 yo, might be a bit confusing, even more so if you explain that there are certain people that are born in the worng body, and for example if you liked to play more with females, that might be you. And you can't prove the contrary either

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            They don't grow out of it. We already went over this. [...] [...]

            the only time they ever "grow out of it" is when you only diagnose based on GID and use conversion therapy, ie. abuse

            >srs can't be considered an abusive therapy instead

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Remember, if you sterile a kid and raise him in a constantly affirming environment, then show discontent when they decide they might not want to do it after years of it, that is totally not convincing a kid to follow a set path.
              >this never happened
              Jazz Jennings on Barbara Walters.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kids don't get srs you retarded pedo.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cuts tits at 13
                halfway there groomer

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >/pol/tards lying to justify taking kids from their parents too make child brides out of
                Nothing new.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reaches conclusions that no one talked about

                >educate the parents, not the children at school
                Yeah, don't teach the kids about trannies or gays or evolution or the germ theory of disease or the round earth because you might trigger some fundy!
                Hell, i was talking with a MISCtard the other day who said the solution for MISCtards chimping out and mass shotting up schools and churches and markets is that we should just get rid of public schools altogether!
                Finally your kids will be free from the harsh light of truth!
                >made them transition when they understand their bodies
                You are making up lies to justify your retarded ideas.
                >you are risking to harm
                You still have yet to provide ANY evidence of this harm that exist only in your head and which you use to justify harm against lgbt kids.
                You don't care about kids, just your own dumb triggered feels.

                the parents educate the children dumbfuck, they see that they have a serious problem like dysphoria and should do something about it, is not your lgbt green hired lesbian professor that should take care of it, teach about it when they can understand
                >retarded ideas.
                NOOOO MAKE THEM TRANSITION ASAP, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, HORMONES IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!......'
                >provide
                you didn't provide any either, my word against yours, circle argument
                and you still didn't tell how you became a tranny

              • 4 weeks ago
                Robin

                We don't know how paracetamol or general anaesthesia work yet we still use them ubiquitously and globally every day because we know that it's what works in those situations, even though both can occasionally kill
                Why should HRT and FFS be treated any differently? Most of medical science is heuristics

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the parents educate the children dumbfuck
                But only about the stuff that triggers YOU right? All the other stuff is fine to teach in schools since you didn't address any of it? Lol
                >NOOOO MAKE THEM TRANSITION ASAP, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, HORMONES IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!......'
                You know therapy IS part of transition before hormones, especially for kids, right?
                You are flailing at your own delusional fantasies.
                >you didn't provide any either
                Didn't provide evidence to somehow prove a negative?
                Im gonna be generous and assume you're smart enough to understand the problem with that and are just disingenuous and trying to deceive people.
                The default state is disbelief. If I claim education on LGBT actually makes even cissies happier and healthier I have to provide the evidence, when you cliam it's hurting them you have to.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    American LGBT are not aware that the USA is the mecca of LGBT , there is not a single tranny in Europe that doesn't have Twitter and follows mostly English speakers lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They also think other countries behave the same way. In western europe sure maybe. But even in places like Thailand where everyones fucked a ladyboy you don't see this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they live in their fantasy like always

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You were warned, but still you went after kids. Now there is nothing that could stop what is coming.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it should be illegal for people to get treatments for medical conditions beause i think theyre gross and the people are ugly
    man im glad hes not a doctor and just some homosexual on social media

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Robin

    Complacency and apathy, especially by the Very Sensible moderate 40% of the population in the middle of the road politically who realised they have less to lose by just letting the fascists run rampant than the inconvenience of having to stand up to them

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Robin

    Did summer term end in the US yesterday?

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most normal people haven't heard of matt walsh
    it'll be okay
    he also looks like a fucking fag

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    You should've stayed away from kids. It all started getting like this the moment you started pushing for gender therapy on children. You know this and so does everyone else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You pushed gender conversion therapy on kids. You abused lgbt kids for decades and now and angry people are deciding to stop that.

      there's now been like 5 repeated mentions of this fucking Stay Away From Kids regurgitated meme in this thread, with zero idea of what it even means or any proof or evidence at all, and each one refuses to even answer basic questions. Just memes or "just trust me bro". Every conservative acts and talks like this now. You know nothing except what people like Matt Walsh tell you to believe or what a stonetoss comic tells you to feel.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah fair enough they did try to convert kids away from this stuff. I’m a moderate conservative and my mom shamed me away from homosexual experimentation and cross dressing during my formative years.

        What you got to realize is, this conversion was done with the best intentions. Parents were trying to set their kids up for success. Society in the past was such that non cishet kids were bullied and excluded and that sort of violence/shunning would continue into adulthood to some degree.

        Ok I’m actually glad that we have achieved a higher level of conscious where people are free to be LGBT. The past was a blast but was also very painful. However I’m seriously skeptical about SRS, HRT and puberty blockers. Some of todays conservatives are aging liberals who carry with them a paranoia about the medical industrial complex. So a zoom zoom gets told by medical people they can make all his dreams come through, but us millennial conservatives see these medical people as liars. Some of us were given anti psychotics and SSRIs as youth because they told us it would make us normal. Those drugs did a lot of damage to us. We haven’t forgotten…

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          Trannies hate doctors far more than you do, trust me. They literally know less about trans endocrinology than the average /lgbt/ troonoid, they gatekeep us and they hondose us without a single care for outcomes. Only begrudgingly after decades of overwhelming evidence being shoved in their faces did they begin prescribing HRT at all, rather than conversion therapy and antipsychotics. The basedlord doctors are not telling any little zoom zooms any such thing, they're only barely willing to consider it after years of persistent complaints from the kid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they're only barely willing to consider it after years of persistent complaints from the kid.
            that's their bulwark against regretters and detransitioners suing them till kingdom come.

            Yeah fair enough they did try to convert kids away from this stuff. I’m a moderate conservative and my mom shamed me away from homosexual experimentation and cross dressing during my formative years.

            What you got to realize is, this conversion was done with the best intentions. Parents were trying to set their kids up for success. Society in the past was such that non cishet kids were bullied and excluded and that sort of violence/shunning would continue into adulthood to some degree.

            Ok I’m actually glad that we have achieved a higher level of conscious where people are free to be LGBT. The past was a blast but was also very painful. However I’m seriously skeptical about SRS, HRT and puberty blockers. Some of todays conservatives are aging liberals who carry with them a paranoia about the medical industrial complex. So a zoom zoom gets told by medical people they can make all his dreams come through, but us millennial conservatives see these medical people as liars. Some of us were given anti psychotics and SSRIs as youth because they told us it would make us normal. Those drugs did a lot of damage to us. We haven’t forgotten…

            >What you got to realize is, this conversion was done with the best intentions. Parents were trying to set their kids up for success. Society in the past was such that non cishet kids were bullied and excluded and that sort of violence/shunning would continue into adulthood to some degree.

            Back then, that was also the justification for the few cases which were medically transitioned. Doctors who enabled troons basically saw themselves as progressive by helping these porr homosexuals who couldn't be corrected otherwise. Troons here and everywhere lack the theory of mind and social comprehension to actually envision what kind of person they're talking to when they try to get srs and other related procedures. they either chasers, stone cold pychos or have some skewed boomer world view which makes them live in a savior fantasy as illustrated above - troons are just gay perverts to all of them.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Back then, that was also the justification for the few cases which were medically transitioned. Doctors who enabled troons basically saw themselves as progressive by helping these porr homosexuals who couldn't be corrected otherwise.

              Holy shit the past was based. When I was a teen in the 90s I remember being proud to be a heterosexual and thinking gays were lame freaks. Damn the past was kinda like MISC lol.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When I was a teen in the 90s I remember being proud to be a heterosexual and thinking gays were lame freaks.
                yup, been there. thought the same, was a gay freak after all...

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Matt is not a politician. He's a media guy that makes his money by riling people up. We haven't gotten to any point other than you being a rube for falling for this.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's going on in this thread ladies?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conservapedos want to abuse and rape kids and claim it's for their own good.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I don't know, but zoomers eating up Ben Shapiro garbage in 2016-2017 and memeing it back out are at fault somehow, I'm sure of it

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn Mr.Girl is always fucking right... Hate that fucking garden gnome...

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You got here by pushing the boat out too far
    Public opinion is a pendulum
    Activists dragged that pendulum all the way to transgender toddlers, children stripping in gay bars, and convicted pedos reading books to kids in libraries
    Now it's coming swinging back the other way
    Every normal gay or trans person who let the activists represent them or stayed quiet in the name of supporting the message, this is the result, insanity on one side breeds insanity on the other

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rather people are just singling things out. and because your average liberal doesn't think about these things, the average argument against them tends to flop quite fast

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reeeeeee don't mess with your own body, GOD DESIGNED IT TO BE SO
    >btw im a libertarian
    >btw i have tattoos
    lol? he's just a retard who's gonna become mad rich through this anti-trans grift

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deplorable rightoid think tanks decided to make this the new big social issue to rally around.
    The same thing happened with abortion in the 80s. No one gave a fuck about it politically until neoconservatives decided to make it an issue to split the catholic vote and try to steal religious moderates.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I diy it's cool bro

  40. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

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    I am a studying Buddhist. My goal is to relieve suffering of all beings.

    With all my heart I say this Transexuality movement is only a quick fix for an identity disorder. You don’t define yourself by your body. Your locus of identity should never be based on externalities. Who you date has nothing to do with who you are…?

    You know what the crazy thing is about ‘being who you are?” It doesn’t require any effort. It certainly doesn’t require you to walk, talk, or speak in any different way. But ‘gayness’ had become a cult of personality in the 2000s. Truthfully, those people didn’t represent the classical gay culture. (‘source?)

    These people were loud, obnoxious, super materialistic, hypersexualized, and jingoistic for their cause. Somewhat rightly so, because most LGBT people are a kind of failed attempt at self realization. Arrested development. Why? Because they believe they’ve failed at being who they are and they turn it into ‘what’ they are.

    It’s very sad that people are doing this to the nature of love. Love doesn’t care what tools you have to build it.

    Some people kept making that face and it got stuck like that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, metaphysically speaking there is nothing to us or anything around us. But looking past there there is not nothing, and not not nothing, and not nothing and not not nothing, ad infinitum.
      At the end of the day, we must use this body and use this mind, and the Buddha says we must use it well. If you are tired you sleep. You don't not sleep because you know that your identity has no self sufficient essence. If your body is sick you take medicine. You don't reject medicine because you know that your body has no self sufficient essence.
      Gender dysphonia is a marker of a problem with the body. It's not wrong for people to treat this problem with modern medicine. The type of person you criticize (hyper-sexual, materialistic, etc.) exists regardless of whether they are straight or gay. Why not continue reflecting on bodhicitta before you criticize others?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based

      Yes, metaphysically speaking there is nothing to us or anything around us. But looking past there there is not nothing, and not not nothing, and not nothing and not not nothing, ad infinitum.
      At the end of the day, we must use this body and use this mind, and the Buddha says we must use it well. If you are tired you sleep. You don't not sleep because you know that your identity has no self sufficient essence. If your body is sick you take medicine. You don't reject medicine because you know that your body has no self sufficient essence.
      Gender dysphonia is a marker of a problem with the body. It's not wrong for people to treat this problem with modern medicine. The type of person you criticize (hyper-sexual, materialistic, etc.) exists regardless of whether they are straight or gay. Why not continue reflecting on bodhicitta before you criticize others?

      cringe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You don’t define yourself by your body.
      Yes you do, its where you come from.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    Would like to amend by saying that I would mainly levy these accusations at the T in LGBT.
    If we hadn’t normalized the surgical and endocrinology aspect ‘I certainly wouldn’t be typing this right now.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People should do whatever they want as adults. As long as it doesn't harm others.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    ‘I am not this body.”

    Nāgārjuna asserted that the notion of a self is associated with the notion of one's own identity and corollary ideas of pride, selfishness and a sense of psychophysical personality.[71] This is all false, and leads to bondage in his Madhyamaka thought. There can be no pride nor possessiveness, in someone who accepts anātman and denies "self" which is the sense of personal identity of oneself, others or anything, states Nāgārjuna.[13][14] Further, all obsessions are avoided when a person accepts emptiness (śūnyatā).[13][72] Nāgārjuna denied there is anything called a self-nature as well as other-nature, emphasizing true knowledge to be comprehending emptiness.[71][73][74] Anyone who has not dissociated from their belief in personality in themselves or others, through the concept of self, is in a state of avidya (ignorance) and caught in the cycle of rebirths and redeaths.”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are willingly ignoring what I said. Are you going to stop eating?

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How did we get to this point?

    Some idiot thought it was a good idea to spread gay shit to kids, basically homos infiltrated teaching, and thought it was good to teach all the rainbow stuff.

    It's nuts, who on earth thought that giving hormones to kids is a good idea? Who thought there wouldn't be a blowback from this? Utterly insane.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

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    I am reflecting on bodhicitta. Blindly affirming everything isn’t compassion for all beings.
    Buddhism has been chained to subjectivity by all the ridiculous interpretations it’s been given by the west.

    It’s not as simple as love everyone. It’s love everyone and tell the truth. I don’t have any I’ll will towards transgender people, I just have to tell them the truth.

    It’s a life sure, but, your limiting yourself from discovering who you really are. Which is much more than just this body.

    This body dysmorphic ideology reaffirms the exact opposite of what Buddhism teaches.

    Anatta. I don’t like using the terms because it seems pontificating so I’ll define it: refers to the doctrine of "non-self" – that no unchanging, permanent self or essence can be found in any phenomenon.

    I highly encourage with all my heart anyone to study with Ram Dass on YouTube. Start with his lecture, “interview at JFK” or “standing in the face of chaos.”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am sorry but it seems to me like you are not acting out of compassion for anyone, I am trying to assume good faith in you but it seems that you are using Buddhism to get a new language with which to criticize other people with seeming authority, which is why you defer to tangential sections from Nargarjuna first before responding to me with your genuine thoughts like a normal human being. You don't understand what I said originally either, because the concept of the self as non-self is still a self concept. That's Nargarjuna's whole point of the four fold negation. I however won't assume you don't know what that is like you assumed I am following 'western ideas of Buddhism'. Yet you recommend me Ram Dass? Is this an elaborate troll attempt?
      Again, your argument here is that people shouldn't take medicine to fix a problem with their body because the body isn't real. I will just flat out say that is a misunderstanding of Buddhism because you have worn out my patience by insulting my intelligence.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based Buddhist queer

  46. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

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    “Are you going to stop eating?”
    These are the kinds of things initiates into ‘Buddhism will say. Such as my girlfriend.

    There is nothing masochistic about what I said. Eating has nothing to do with Anatta , that’s your body. But since you asked, many practitioners DO practically stop eating. It’s considered a part of the practice. Fasting is a method of liberation in Buddhism to take you to Anatta. (no self). Because your denying the body what it “wants”. No one said to starve. I didn’t say deny the body of what it ‘needs’. There are many practices that highlights this, Along with “Neti, Neti” (not this. Not that)

    This LGBT fixation with sex and gender also goes into the ideals of the five aggregates I think you mentioned,

    The five aggregates or heaps of clinging are:
    form (or material image, impression) (rupa)
    sensations (or feelings, received from form) (vedana)
    perceptions (samjna)
    mental activity or formations (sankhara)
    consciousness (vijnana).[5][6][7]

    “More specifically, in the Pali Canon, rūpa is contextualized in three significant frameworks:
    rūpa-khandha – "material forms," one of the five aggregates (khandha) by which all phenomena can be categorized.
    rūpa-āyatana – "visible objects," the external sense objects of the eye, one of the six external sense bases (āyatana) by which the world is known.

    nāma-rūpa – "name and form" or "mind and body," which in the causal chain of dependent origination (paticca-samuppāda) arises from consciousness and leads to the arising of the sense bases.”

    Buddhism could be summed up such as: ‘Not getting what we want, is getting what we need.”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Taking medicine is not against Buddhism, just like eating food is not against Buddhism. 'Are you going to stop eating' is a rhetorical question that went over your head. Of course no one believes you will stop eating entirely. The only Buddhists who did that were esoteric practitioners before the practice was banned.
      How is anything that you are saying different when applied to straight people? Your premise is flawed. It doesn't matter how many concepts and terms your try to hide what you're saying with, your basic understanding of the issue is just incorrect.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    Ram Dass is the synthesis of western and eastern Buddhism/hinduism. Along with Watts.

    Western Buddhism is weakened with subjectivity. Dass and Watts aren’t western Buddhism. You really think I’m against common sense medicine?

    I never said don’t take medicine I said don’t , you shouldn’t take drugs solely to change ‘who yiu are’ or ‘what you are’

    You miss the point of Buddhism I think and I don’t know what you mean by your comment about nagarjuna. I’m willing to listen more. With respect, I’m an objectivist first and a Buddhist second. I believe existentialism and free will do exist to an extent that we exercise them, because all meaning is really man made. Let’s make it well and not just let anyone decide what is truth.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Body is real. I am not saying that. Gender dysphoria isn’t. Transgenderism is anti-Buddhist.
      YOU are not the body.
      The Body is merely a convention for the Godhead to experience itself. ‘Maya”.
      If you know buddhism you know that we are all God. Yes? So. Our bodies are a way for the universe to experience itself.

      I apologize if I sounded angry or hostile, I really am not.
      Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like the main different between our two points of view is that you believe medical transition to be an aesthetic choice from ego or vanity whereas I see it as a medical treatment for an illness (gender dysphoria). If that is the case then we are just using religious language to discuss sexual political beliefs.
      At which point I don't have any more interesting in discussing the issue because it is not longer a religious one.
      To lay my cards on the table, as far as Buddhism goes I don't think all meaning is man made because I believe ultimately all reality is the buddha-dharma, which can be personified in our thought by the primordial Buddha vairocana. All samsara is no more than nirvana, and nirvana is no more than samsara. So I sort of agree with you when you said reality is Godhead experiencing itself.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    Body is real. I am not saying that. Gender dysphoria isn’t. Transgenderism is anti-Buddhist.
    YOU are not the body.
    The Body is merely a convention for the Godhead to experience itself. ‘Maya”.
    If you know buddhism you know that we are all God. Yes? So. Our bodies are a way for the universe to experience itself.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    Once again. Taking hormone blockers, testosterone, estrogen, this is not medicine.

    It’s only in the last 15 years that it’s been considered as such. Please stop conflating actual medical science with the blindly self affirming ‘care’ that gender ideologists do.

    Once again ‘I never said I was against medicine because transgenderizing is not medicine. Transgenderism is the opposite of what Buddhism teaches. Do you disagree on that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are medicine and Harry Benjamin's been prescribing estrogen as such since the 50s. ciswomen also take hrt all the time...as medicine
      don't talk about shit you know nothing about retard

  50. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

    Whether you are a man or a woman is absolutely of no importance and those that hyper fixated on these ideas are reinforcing the notion of the self. How can you possibly disagree with this?

    I never said starve yourself I said fasting. Limiting the senses and the body is Yoga. It’s not starving. I know the acesticism of which you speak and that’s probably why the divide between hinduism and Buddhism. Not what I’m talking about. …

  51. 4 weeks ago
    A Buddhist

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    I guess you COULD argue that the dharma knows what it is doing and I’m just making a fuss. And I mean that in a good will.

    I do want to take Buddhism into objective thought so we can make a “wisdom science.”

    Anyway, I wish you all a lovely day.. it’s my first time posting on LULZ and I appreciate being able to speak almost entirely freely.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      While I disagree with you on that point we were discussing, I appreciate that you were willing to hear my side concerning it and you show integrity with this post.
      I hope you have a good day as well.

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