How did the knights of Europe and the Catholic Church react to the increasing prevalence of armor-piercing gunpowder weapons and pike formations as th...

How did the knights of Europe and the Catholic Church react to the increasing prevalence of armor-piercing gunpowder weapons and pike formations as the medieval period was ending?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >knights of Europe
    By becoming well paid officers in the newly formed armies, highly educated man of skill who could sell their services, administrators, focusing down on the landlord business and maybe a bit of trade.
    >Catholic Church
    Probably just shrugged and continued their usual politics.
    What did you expect?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well the Catholic Church already tried to ban Christians from using bows and crossbows on each other so them being angry about guns wouldn't be out of character. They're not even big fans of guns today.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >What did you expect?
        Probably something like banning firearms, like what they did to crossbow

        >ban on missle weapons
        Never worked and was apparently not really pursued. I never heard of anybody being condemned by the church for using missile weapons.
        And I don't know of any document after the Second Council of the Lateran that tried to reinforce the original "prohibition".

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The Catholic Church doesn't actively hunt down people who have abortions either, that doesn't mean it's not still condemned as a sin.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And still people have abortions, kill each other, bribe their way through live, rape, etc. Condemnation from a vague source of morality does little to affect the human condition.
            >The Catholic Church doesn't actively hunt down people who have abortions either
            Is that due to the fact that they currently don't want to or don't have the means to?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > Is that due to the fact that they currently don't want to or don't have the means to?

            You know the answer. They have no power to do it. If the Catholic Church still had any power, you bet your ass that a lot of people would be getting burnt.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Vatican banks still pretty influential

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >already tried to ban Christians from using bows and crossbows on each other
        This was ignored by everybody. It wasn't even the most nonsensical thing proposed in the council of Lateran

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What did you expect?
      Probably something like banning firearms, like what they did to crossbow

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because the crossbow ban was so effective right?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    By commissioning artists to make pictures commemorating historical events, but with anime girls so that coomers don’t lose interest after a moment or two

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      homie this stuff has been happening since humans could make art. The only difference between Pic related and OP's picture is artstyle

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        > The only difference
        And talent, execution, impact, target audience, presentation, and spiritual significance

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        do you think the ukraine "saint javelin" woman icon/idol shit is the same as anime girls with guns or what you posted?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer the anime

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    make thicker armour

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make thicker armour
      Unironically this I don't see why guns are a problem a musket probably can't pierce more than 1 inch of steel why not make 1 inch thick full plate armour. Also have you read this and accepted him picrel.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >make thicker armour
      Unironically this I don't see why guns are a problem a musket probably can't pierce more than 1 inch of steel why not make 1 inch thick full plate armour. Also have you read this and accepted him picrel.

      The amount of armor required to stop a musket shot makes it prohibitively heavy

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        muskets and plate armour coexisted for centuries

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          only because muskets took 1000993839 years to reload

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you want head to toe coverage, maybe. The average heavy cavalryman's cuirass in the 18th and 19th centuries was perfectly capable of stopping typical hand held firearm bullets.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    knights and military men in general are the earliest adopter of fire-arms

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They still rode horses, wore better armor, and had advantageous battlefield roles. Except this time around they had nice salaries instead of fiefs and officer ranks.

    So they were better off in the 1500s-1600s than previously.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    by using artillery to form gaps for them to exploit then using the infantry to hold them

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They got thicker plate armor, ditched shields for blunderbuss, and carried longer thinner hollow spears for lancing. The Roman Catholic Church was more focused on doing something about the Protestant reformation and the encroaching Ottoman Empire

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >They got thicker plate armor
      Did it work?

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