How come the Vikings were such capable seafarers?


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How come the Vikings were such capable seafarers? Being able to say you sailed from North America to Central Asia in the Middle Ages is a pretty impressive navigational accomplishment, but what enabled them to traverse bodies of water so effortlessly? Was Odin guiding them?

  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tur heyerdal replicated all those travels. Not that obscene as it seems.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not much good land for farming I imagine, so they would need to get things by trading with people at farther distances, so they developed a ship culture.

    Probably too simplistic of an answer, but I'm sure that's part of it.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    only their north america and caspian travel is impressive.
    Europe is so tiny, sailing from Scandinavia to Gibraltar is about the same as sailing from one tip of Japan to the other. Plus, they just follow the coast which is easy as fuck. In Russia and Black sea they just took advantage of prior trade routes

    Portuguese, Spaniards, Dutch and British were better sailors

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Plus, they just follow the coast which is easy as fuck.
      That's exactly what they sometimes didn't do, giving them tactical flexibility and shorter travel time. Vikings had to cross the North Sea between Norway and the Faroe islands. Something that the English were never capable of in that time period

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Something that the English were never capable of in that tim
        Because they would have to declare war on Scotland and Norway at the same time to get there

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they can go across seas but also up rivers, that's what makes them ingenious

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they can go across seas but also up rivers, that's what makes them ingenious
        That was expected of war galleys since the Roman Empire

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cause they knew how to Island hop? What’s so impressive about that? Even Polynesians could do it and even better.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Viking longboats were probably the most advanced in the Middle Ages for a decent period of time, other Mediterranean ships couldn’t sail reliably into the Atlantic at until well into the Middle Ages, but their Drakkar boats could and they could reach speeds of up to 16 knots, also they didn’t rely on a compass to orient themselves but used solar stones which let them see the direction of the sun no matter how overcast it was, it was also how they navigated dense forests and mountains.

      Polynesians did nothing of the sort on the same level.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was nothing unique about viking longboats. Most northern Europeans used similar types, and not only northern Europeans. Monoxyles covered in planks on the edges were used throughout the world.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, they were used throughout the world after they spread them as the sea peoples.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            We Wuz Sea People is something new.
            Jokes aside what kind of ships did the sea people use?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              They had many kinds of ships, they started out big and gradually became smaller over.

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                Anonymous

                They had ceremonial axes similar to their Minoan counterparts.

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                Anonymous

                Thats literally khabib lol

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Thats literally khabib lol
                Haplogroup G/R1a

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Headwear kinda looks Central American

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The virgin island hooping vs the chad ocean-conquering

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Polynesians came from South America

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't say "even polynesians" like it's nothing, polynesian navigational feats were utterly amazing and weren't equaled by anyone until the 18th-19th centuries

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >LARP as le based warriors
    >get BTFO by any serious army
    >arrive in America
    >get BTFO so hard by native Americans you never return to America
    Why are vikings so shit?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >LARP as le based warriors
      What does this even mean?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They weren't. They were literal layman lead by a small elite core of a dozen or so troops sent to raid/pillage coastal towns for wealth and honor.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good boats and island hopping. Traveling from Spain to Hispanola or Brazil is hard, traveling from Norway to the Faroe islands is pretty easy, from the Faroe islands to Iceland is pretty easy, from Iceland to Greenland is a bit hard, and from Greenland to Newfoundland is a bit hard. I mean look at the Polynesians, they didn't have any special technology or some magic "Polynesian risk-taking heroic nature" they were just dudes who sailed to a nearby island and then to another island until eventually they covered an area larger than the Mongol Empire.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a shit map, Bulgars are shown way north of Bulgaria and Magyars are shown in a totally wrong place next to the Black Sea instead of in Hungary

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Odin was a Greco-Egyptian scholar of Thracian heritage.
    Minoans were refugees from Midgard (doggerbank), while the pharaohs through Osiris were refugees from Aztlan/Asgard (Solutreans/Rockall/Frisland)
    Norse myth is Trojan myth meant to remember the lost lands.
    When Solon heard of Atlantis, what he really heard of was Aztlan/Asgard.
    The Titanomachia was when the western, steppe heritage greeks defeated the eastern, sea heritage greeks.
    The Aesir are sea heritage, while the Vanir are Steppe heritage. But, - as norse myth correctly points out, they are sibling branches of an older culture, - Pre-PIE peoples from the lands of ice age western europe and northeastern north americas.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Odin was a Hunn warlord.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uldin

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        had you done any etymologic research instead of schizo association, - you'd know Oðinn comes from Wotanaz, which means Waterbird - coherent with him being a bird shaman of a seafaring nation.
        The migration period sure lead *some* huns to marry into scandinavian culture, which might have altered the pronounciation of the father figure that shared a similar name with their own, - but it did not affect the native scandinavian Wotan and his character.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wodanaz is from the PIE word Wod or 'Od meaning battlefury.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Aesir are sea heritage, while the Vanir are Steppe heritage. But, - as norse myth correctly points out, they are sibling branches of an older culture, - Pre-PIE peoples from the lands of ice age western europe and northeastern north americas.
      complete opposite.
      Aesir are 100% Steppe, they all ride horses or chariots, they are very patriarchal, warlike, and they take women from the Vanir, they also claim descent from Giants with whom they warred.
      Vanir are Sea heritage, Vanir gods being associated with water, while Aesir having no gods associated with water.
      Vanir gods like Freyr being a god of farming and fertility, wheats, domestic animals, and fishing, and Freya a war goddess among the Vanir.
      The Aesir already have their war gods, and more or less all of their gods are war gods.

      Njordr was once chief of the Vanir pantheon, but became less prominent over time, Njordr was the god of the Wind and Tide.
      and like I said the Aesir have no concept of Sea-gods, they had no concept of seas, they were R1 Steppe gods.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had their ships going for them. These were superior to other ships of the same era in a number of ways:

    1. They could be sailed, but also rowed, meaning they weren't dependent either on favorable winds or on working galley slaves to death.
    2. The wide, shallow bottoms meant that these ships could easily sail up and down shallow rivers, while most other ships of the time could not, providing tactical and strategic advantages.
    3. They could be built in large numbers due to their relatively simple design, and the design could be scaled up or down depending on the wealth of their owners and the amount of available crewmen.
    4. Due to the flexibility of the design and the wood used, they could 'flex' lengthwise while on high seas to avoid structural damage from bouncing on the waves, unlike most other ships of the time.

    There were also some environmental factors that made the Norse experienced sailors:

    1. The constant sea traffic necessary to transport people, goods and warbands across the Baltic Sea and the Danish and Frisian islands. This caused a 'selection' in favor of the best ships and crewmen.
    2. More generally, the fact that until well into the Early Modern era, travel by sea was both safer and more cost effective than travel by land. Combined with the very long coast of Scandinavia, this meant coastal travel by ship was more than just viable; it was the best way to get around.
    3. The routes of trade, raiding and settlement. Even before the Viking era, Norse traders and mercenaries were traveling up and down the Baltic and the North Sea to ply their trades. As such, they didn't start out ignorant; they knew the region around them and they had experienced navigators ready long before the raid on Lindisfarne.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes it was odin guiding them

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hold on, if vikings landed in North America first, then why the fuck do we celebrate Columbus' landing? Better yet, how did theknowledge of new lands across the ocean got lost among Scandinavians?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Scandinavian settlement in Greenland became unviable due to the Little Ice Age, leading to its abandonment. After that, people just sorta didn’t care about the limited historical settlement past Iceland.

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