How come so many MGTOWs are also antinatalists?
How come so many MGTOWs are also antinatalists?
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Why would I subject my genes to another round of existence in a world where my base instincts compel me to procreate with demons?
Because why not? Pain is a vital part of life. If we didnt feel pain we wouldnt need to learn or grow.
There is no reason to learn or grow. We could just not exist
Getting women isn't a painful experience for Chad. It just happens for them naturally.
Becoming Chad is natural for men. Thats why people say not to play video games.
Whatever redpill grifter who told you that bullshit was being ironic, anon.
It's a blackpill though.
>If we didnt feel pain we wouldnt need to learn or grow.
Fine. Go bang your head against a brick wall and tell us how much you grew from the learning experience.
I would have slapped her back into the jurassic
Shows how oppressed women are and how they are constantly in fear of rape.
I haven't observed that to be the case at all.
Antinatalism is a pretty fringe minority opinion in the mgtow space from what I have seen.
It's one thing to personally not want kids (which is a more common option in mgtow) and thinking having children in general is unethical (very uncommon opinion in mgtow).
I have to ask, what mgtow community you have been engaging with to come to the conclusion that most are antinatalists?
Well they dont say they are per se but personally I think that is the only conclusion to come to with MGTOW in general. A lot of them tend to have a warranted hatred towards females tettering on homosexuality where as MRA just want a not gynocentric society or atleast a not anti male society.
>they dont say they are
>So I am going to put words in their mouth and ask you to explain why they believe something that they don't even believe
This shit is fucking retarded.
Do mgtow types seem like they hold back their opinions on things? That you can read minds and read minds to see hidden messages that aren't really there?
The answer to your question is really simple.
They don't. They generally aren't antinatalist. They mostly just individually choose not to have children because it's not worth it to them in the current system.
>Mgtow hate women and are basically gay
Should have seen this bullshit coming.
Really you are just projecting and then acting like some group fits that projection when in reality it doesn't.
>getting this defensive over the word gay
Lol must be gay
You clearly are a shitnippledickbutthomosexual.
Also not a argument.
It is an argument though
It really isn't.
It certainly isn't a rational and on topic one.
If the world were ending would there be any more point to procreating? What would the end result be but just more senseless creation of sentient life living long enough to scream in absolute terror as the world around it slowly dies.
I'm not an antinatalist but I'd hope that even the most deluded optimists can tell by now that something just isn't right in the world. That there are big changes and big problems coming down the pipe and I just don't think we've got it in us this time to kick the can further down the road to avoid the consequences.
Maybe humanity itself will survive in a drastically reduced state, but there is going to be a whole lot of death and dying before things stabilize again.
Like imagine having a bunch of children but because the job market is already tight if A.I. somehow takes your job or makes you redundant. You are just out of luck and destitute. Or maybe your area gets hit by a natural disaster. Maybe nuclear war happens. Maybe another virus worse than the last. Maybe there's another world war with China. Maybe the oil runs out in a few decades and suddenly mass-transit and cheap agriculture is no longer viable.
Imagine having to not only look out for yourself but also having to look out for your own children and see them grow up in a world where at any moment they can be taken from you or killed right before your eyes and there's nothing you can do about it but watch.
I feel sorry for parents because there's a good chance they will live to see their children die en masse. And for what? For getting to feel like they one upped their fellow breeders by creating more fodder for the slaughter?
If life really is not worth living the why have you not killed yourself?
>mass media talking points, no actual relevant details about having a family
>"deluded optimists"
Kiddo you are like 50 years too late to be that guy. I'm sorry for how they brainwashed you, but the "optimists" are not hiding under your bed waiting for you to show weakness.
The world isn't ending. Stop being overly dramatic dude.
It is either not having a horse in the race which lets you objectively look at the matter and conclude that antinatalism is a good idea. Or it is sour grapes cope. You can decide.
>objectively looking at fake statistics
even if that helped MGTOWs conclude anything, they still seem to try to influence our youth. they certainly have a horse in the race when it comes to their feelings.
I wish someone stepped in when I was 20 and told me it is over and also not worth it in the first place.
I'm not MGTOW, I'm just depressed and easily swayed by redpill propaganda. It speaks to me because my ex left me for a fuckboy she met online and she was the only girl I was messing with.
I want to have kids. But so far the only woman who approached me was 40 years old and had brain damage.
Generally, I don't want to date a woman with extra kids, it feels against my nature.
>How come so many MGTOWs are also antinatalists?
sour grapes
israelite programming, most likely?
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