How come only Muhammad and Ali are the only relevant early islamic figures? You barely hear about the other guys.

How come only Muhammad and Ali are the only relevant early islamic figures? You barely hear about the other guys.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    *Cassius Clay

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The Greatest

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Abu Bakr? Aisha?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Iblis. Allah.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Muhammad and Ali are invoked far more than any other early islamic figure. The latter was used by various shia and sufi groups. Like when is Aisha brought up except in muhammad pedo debates or when shia call her a prostitute?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >when shia call her a prostitute
        why do they do that?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Women don't count they aren't people in islam

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You probably only talked to shias

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >You probably only talked to shias
      99% of sufi groups claim their founder was Ali

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that high

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          there's only one sufi order that claims descent from Abu Bakr the rest all trace their lineage back to Ali

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How many Sufi orders are there?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            no clue

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hate how I am always torn between asking this on either Oyish or Oyish, but this thread makes my question on topic: What are some good books for early Sunni and for early Shia History? I'd imagine that for Shia, it's a book about the Twelvers, but what about the Sunni?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Twelver Shiism: Unity and Diversity in the Life of Islam, 632 to 1722
      Agents of the Hidden Imam
      Forging Twelver Shi‘ism, 850-950 CE
      The Origins and Early Development of Shi'a Islam
      How Did the Early Shi'a become Sectarian? Marshall Hodgson
      Succession to Muhammad Wilferd Madelung

      Yabubi and Masudi were classical islam historians who were shia
      Kitab al-Irshad biography of the twelve imams by shia theologian in the buyid era

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks friend.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > every single great Muslim leader including Mohammed practiced Sufism
    > 100 years ago Muslims declared Sufis heretics
    Tippety toppest of keks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bonus points when the muslims killed off his family.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Mohammed practiced Sufism
      before or after the killings ad rapings?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why does he look like a troony with a beard in this?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that's just how persians draw

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I would have said Nicolas Taleb in a gay pride costume.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because Ali is God.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There are also Umar, the muscles of the group, Aisha, the underage fricktoy of the group and Abu-Bekr the secretary

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Khalid. Islam would've disappeared where it not for him

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >conquests known for multiple outstanding generals
      >khalid wienersuckers: Islam would've disappeared where it not for him
      why are you like this?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Those generals had no choice but to have Khalid lead. Where it not for him the byzantines would've conquered the Arab peninsula and cleansed it of all opposition.

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