You're only thinking slavs because the heavy nordic / finnic influence on the northern slavs and how Russia heavily promotes it's nordic/finnic heritage, but tries to play it off as if it was Slavic Russian all along.
Every time I see pictures of Hyperborea it's like I'm unlocking some long lost memory ofg beloning, and get a fuzzy feeling inside. Can't even explain why because it doesn't happen with pictures from other fantasy settings.
Every time I see pictures of Hyperborea it's like I'm unlocking some long lost memory ofg beloning, and get a fuzzy feeling inside. Can't even explain why because it doesn't happen with pictures from other fantasy settings.
It's always funny to see posts like this. The painter is a Slav, and all his paintings are very clearly Slav-themed. You two are just amerimutts and can barely distinguish the Celts from the Germans, much less the Germanics from the Slavs.
They were probably fatter than this. No way you can go winters with that distribution. This is more accurate
You could grow grapes in bronze-age Scandinavia.
https://i.imgur.com/Nw7Ii6o.jpg
How advanced was bronze-age scandinavia?
Pretty advanced. Although as
In terms of urbanism, not at all. The bronze age Scandinavians seem to have deliberately avoided building cities unlike other wealthy cultures of bronze age Europe. Which is unique because during this time the Scandinavians and early Germanic speakers in settlements in Northern Germany, Frisia and parts of the Baltic they colonized were extraordinarily wealthy compared to the rest of northern Europe, due to the amber trade they quite violently consolidated.
The phase referred to as the Late Neolithic which saw the beginning of this resource consolidation was the first instance of the haplogroups R1b-U106 and I1 becoming common there. This era saw a transformation of economy and culture that shared more in common with Bell Beakers and the Pitted Ware Culture. They were quite tall and well developed physically for the time, towering over the height averages for most of bronze age Europe.
So they were rich and like their Norse descendants quite resourceful, but unlike most any group they had no cities or development associated with civilization at all, outside of small round forts and kind of proto-castles, most a of which were ruined in later eras. High culture but without a semblance of will to build cities like Hyperborean LARP art like this, which I think is more associated with groups like the Wends. Wends were heavily mixed with Nordics and Norse culture, but lived in dense cities constructed from wood primarily. They went on raiding and causing trouble for Christian Europe including Scandinavia (which had largely been converted) at the time. I think even the artist who popularized this genre is Russian.
Southern Scandinavia was quite warm when that girl was alive, not at all like the winters they've known for nearly 3000 years. It's actually not so harsh in Denmark and southern Sweden even now.
said they weren't very urban or centralized.
In fact, I have read a very interesting book arguing that Nordic bronze age elites organized themselves in guilds/secret societies based around boat building instead of regular polities. They would have supposedly controlled knowledge of boat-building, warfare, and creating rock carvings. They would also be the ones in control of maritime trade, slaving expeditions and raids to other settlements.
But most of the argument has to do with parallels to other societies that might have been similar, like the PNW natives.
Bronze-age SOUTHERN Scandinavia was extremely rich from the amber trade. Few other places around this part of the world has such a massive concentration of bronze and other wealthy artefacts from this era. But as Christian Christiansen points out in a recent documentary, society was extremely uneven. Slavery was extensive, gigantic graves like "the kings grave" (one of a kind in northern europe) could be built. Because petty rulers held the bronze and amber trade with an iron fist, their rule could persist until the advent of iron smelting. Then metal production could be made here in Scandinavia instead. Society shifted in favor of the common man, hence this artefact rich period dwindled, and the priest and ruler class couldn't continue developing their high culture.
what book?
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Anonymous
Trade before civilization. Too lazy to type out the subtitle.
It's in chapter four, if I recall correctly.
They cite quite a few examples of parallel institutions in regions with similar levels of social development and similar geography, like the Pacific Northwest of Canada and the U.S.
Picrel comes from the book.
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Anonymous
I'll check it out if it's on libgen
Btw, this is speculation from the trusted source of some retard on Twitter, but I have seen arguments made that the collapse of the southern bronze age empires might have precipitated the decline of the bronze age Scandinavia due to a lack of demand for amber/spread of dangerous ideas.
Makes sense that the collapse had negative effects on trade even for Scandinavians >spread of dangerous ideas
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Anonymous
Btw, this is speculation from the trusted source of some retard on Twitter, but I have seen arguments made that the collapse of the southern bronze age empires might have precipitated the decline of the bronze age Scandinavia due to a lack of demand for amber/spread of dangerous ideas.
In terms of urbanism, not at all. The bronze age Scandinavians seem to have deliberately avoided building cities unlike other wealthy cultures of bronze age Europe. Which is unique because during this time the Scandinavians and early Germanic speakers in settlements in Northern Germany, Frisia and parts of the Baltic they colonized were extraordinarily wealthy compared to the rest of northern Europe, due to the amber trade they quite violently consolidated.
The phase referred to as the Late Neolithic which saw the beginning of this resource consolidation was the first instance of the haplogroups R1b-U106 and I1 becoming common there. This era saw a transformation of economy and culture that shared more in common with Bell Beakers and the Pitted Ware Culture. They were quite tall and well developed physically for the time, towering over the height averages for most of bronze age Europe.
So they were rich and like their Norse descendants quite resourceful, but unlike most any group they had no cities or development associated with civilization at all, outside of small round forts and kind of proto-castles, most a of which were ruined in later eras. High culture but without a semblance of will to build cities like Hyperborean LARP art like this, which I think is more associated with groups like the Wends. Wends were heavily mixed with Nordics and Norse culture, but lived in dense cities constructed from wood primarily. They went on raiding and causing trouble for Christian Europe including Scandinavia (which had largely been converted) at the time. I think even the artist who popularized this genre is Russian.
Southern Scandinavia was quite warm when that girl was alive, not at all like the winters they've known for nearly 3000 years. It's actually not so harsh in Denmark and southern Sweden even now.
Had nothing to do with haploautism, the one thing haplogroups are really useful for are tracking ethnographic and cultural changes in ancient populations.
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Anonymous
>ignoring linguistic and archaeological evidence to argue about haplogroups despite having no understanding of genetics
no its haploautism lmfao
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Anonymous
All of the changes in the Middle/Late Neolithic coincide with the entrance of those migrations was clearly the point. You're just simple.
>Paganoids Vargfags who praise the nordic brozne age as the best thing ever base their delusions on art made by a Russian artist very clearly representing an idealized version of pre-Christian slavic people
You can't possibly descend lower than that
Not much. Safe for a few area in the med most of pre Christian Europe was a shithole.
And they had happier and more meaningful lives than you
not true and also not the question, so seethe harder you illiterate retard
You seem angry
it clearly is very true
The most advanced place in the entire Northern Hemisphere
this is what pagan larpers unironically believe
I'm not a pagan
Temple of Uppsala was of a scale larger than any church or temple before those cathedrals. And they did it out of wood.
Based Inge destroyed that pile of crap. Taller =/= better
The most advanced place in the world for most of the bronze age. They collapsed the med empires within half a century who never recovered to this day.
More than it's given credit for. The vikings were primarily merchants and traders with a rich literary and poetry tradition.
Mental illness. Delusions. Frustration.
but picrel depicts the Slavs…
They're all the same.
no, we are even more steppenaggers
it is important.
Slavs don't exist until the medieval period.
You're only thinking slavs because the heavy nordic / finnic influence on the northern slavs and how Russia heavily promotes it's nordic/finnic heritage, but tries to play it off as if it was Slavic Russian all along.
Every time I see pictures of Hyperborea it's like I'm unlocking some long lost memory ofg beloning, and get a fuzzy feeling inside. Can't even explain why because it doesn't happen with pictures from other fantasy settings.
the same happens to me, or with Yule-themed northern lightssnowy forests and villages type of fantasy worlds
It's always funny to see posts like this. The painter is a Slav, and all his paintings are very clearly Slav-themed. You two are just amerimutts and can barely distinguish the Celts from the Germans, much less the Germanics from the Slavs.
The painter was born in Kazahstan and had kazakh admixture btw.
Truly a member of the new historical community.
You could grow grapes in bronze-age Scandinavia.
Pretty advanced. Although as
said they weren't very urban or centralized.
In fact, I have read a very interesting book arguing that Nordic bronze age elites organized themselves in guilds/secret societies based around boat building instead of regular polities. They would have supposedly controlled knowledge of boat-building, warfare, and creating rock carvings. They would also be the ones in control of maritime trade, slaving expeditions and raids to other settlements.
But most of the argument has to do with parallels to other societies that might have been similar, like the PNW natives.
Bronze-age SOUTHERN Scandinavia was extremely rich from the amber trade. Few other places around this part of the world has such a massive concentration of bronze and other wealthy artefacts from this era. But as Christian Christiansen points out in a recent documentary, society was extremely uneven. Slavery was extensive, gigantic graves like "the kings grave" (one of a kind in northern europe) could be built. Because petty rulers held the bronze and amber trade with an iron fist, their rule could persist until the advent of iron smelting. Then metal production could be made here in Scandinavia instead. Society shifted in favor of the common man, hence this artefact rich period dwindled, and the priest and ruler class couldn't continue developing their high culture.
what book?
Trade before civilization. Too lazy to type out the subtitle.
It's in chapter four, if I recall correctly.
They cite quite a few examples of parallel institutions in regions with similar levels of social development and similar geography, like the Pacific Northwest of Canada and the U.S.
Picrel comes from the book.
I'll check it out if it's on libgen
Makes sense that the collapse had negative effects on trade even for Scandinavians
>spread of dangerous ideas
Btw, this is speculation from the trusted source of some retard on Twitter, but I have seen arguments made that the collapse of the southern bronze age empires might have precipitated the decline of the bronze age Scandinavia due to a lack of demand for amber/spread of dangerous ideas.
Like this. Their art.
Fucking snownaggers. Paleolithic cave paintings looked better
Shut up medbug we would know more if your kind had not defaced everything
If I had access to women like that, I wouldn't care about art too much.
>eschewing the cultivation of art in favor of drooling over holes
A tale as old as time
brown hands typed this post
Hyperborea will never be real
They were probably fatter than this. No way you can go winters with that distribution. This is more accurate
In terms of urbanism, not at all. The bronze age Scandinavians seem to have deliberately avoided building cities unlike other wealthy cultures of bronze age Europe. Which is unique because during this time the Scandinavians and early Germanic speakers in settlements in Northern Germany, Frisia and parts of the Baltic they colonized were extraordinarily wealthy compared to the rest of northern Europe, due to the amber trade they quite violently consolidated.
The phase referred to as the Late Neolithic which saw the beginning of this resource consolidation was the first instance of the haplogroups R1b-U106 and I1 becoming common there. This era saw a transformation of economy and culture that shared more in common with Bell Beakers and the Pitted Ware Culture. They were quite tall and well developed physically for the time, towering over the height averages for most of bronze age Europe.
https://genomicatlas.org/2022/07/15/from-stone-to-bronze-recent-developments-in-scandinavian-archaeogenetics/amp/#
So they were rich and like their Norse descendants quite resourceful, but unlike most any group they had no cities or development associated with civilization at all, outside of small round forts and kind of proto-castles, most a of which were ruined in later eras. High culture but without a semblance of will to build cities like Hyperborean LARP art like this, which I think is more associated with groups like the Wends. Wends were heavily mixed with Nordics and Norse culture, but lived in dense cities constructed from wood primarily. They went on raiding and causing trouble for Christian Europe including Scandinavia (which had largely been converted) at the time. I think even the artist who popularized this genre is Russian.
Southern Scandinavia was quite warm when that girl was alive, not at all like the winters they've known for nearly 3000 years. It's actually not so harsh in Denmark and southern Sweden even now.
peak brown post lmfao
What is brown about that post exactly?
Haploautism is an incredibly brown trait.
Had nothing to do with haploautism, the one thing haplogroups are really useful for are tracking ethnographic and cultural changes in ancient populations.
>ignoring linguistic and archaeological evidence to argue about haplogroups despite having no understanding of genetics
no its haploautism lmfao
All of the changes in the Middle/Late Neolithic coincide with the entrance of those migrations was clearly the point. You're just simple.
god damn
Imagine how many refugees she's slept with
I can't, it's still No Nut November
She didn't wear panties. This explains why all those guys on Tanum petroglyphs have boners.
Imagine the smell
Dude fucking a dog. Typical scandi.
Cute.
This is from a heilung music video (she gets raped)
They pulled that image for their music video you putz
they were in the bronze age
The neolithic Swedes and Danes know pythagoras and sacred geometry though. As evident by the geometry of their sacred sites.
>Pythagoras
>Neolithic
pythagoras geometry
they even made a holy site at the place where the equinox noon sun created a shadow that was the golden ratio long
>Paganoids Vargfags who praise the nordic brozne age as the best thing ever base their delusions on art made by a Russian artist very clearly representing an idealized version of pre-Christian slavic people
You can't possibly descend lower than that