I just don't get it. Like did i fuck up in a past life to curse myself with this one? 2.5 years hrt, ffs, fin, minox, pio, weight cycling, voice training, all just for people to constantly ask me my pronouns and tell me "you're so brave" and "just give it some more time" and "those guys don't deserve you anyway babe!"
It truly never ends
I'm so done
>androgynymode
Not worth it
Every time someone calls you bro or chief or boss or you have to introduce yourself as "boy name" just hurts more and more until you get to the point where you take honmoding bc people pretending they see you as a girl and only occasionally misgendering you on accident is at least somewhat better than moving through the world as a boy
Kinda true... the longer I'm on HRT the harder it is to present male still. It's only been five months for me and I constantly feel tempted to say fuck it and just girlmode but I know it's not worth it just yet so I'm being patient. I've had a few sessions of laser already but I still have very faint shadow on my upper lip and chin even right after shading I need makeup to cover so like I at least want enough laser to get rid of that before I present female. I'm just not comfortable with going out presenting as a girl while still having enough beard shadow that makeup is mandatory to cover it. I think more time on HRT will also make me more feminine, five months isn't a ton in the grand scheme of things. I also feel like I'm more at risk for like losing my job or getting disowned or hatecrimed if I start presenting female too early and like people won't take me as seriously if I come out now. I think I'm going to wait until at least a year into my transition to start girlmoding in public sometimes.
I want to girlmode so bad and to have people stop gendering me male and to stop using my guy voice and to wear cute clothes and makeup that I want to wear but I need to be patient. It hurts to present male but I think it would hurt more to be treated like a total freak this early on. I think eventually I just won't even care though even if I just look like a very pretty boy in makeup and girl clothes
>still have very faint shadow on my upper lip and chin
Lol i would kill for this, I've done laser and electro for two years and still have an entire beard that shows through makeup after just a couple hours and i still girlmode. It causes me incredible distress though so i don't necessarily blame you for waiting I'm just in too deep now
That's nutty, I could grow a full beard and I've had three sessions of laser and my cheeks are sparse hairs only, my neck is like 50% clear, there's a bare patch in the middle of my chin, and the rest of the goatee area is at least thinner and slower growing. I have really dark brown hair though and sorta like pale olive skin
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Try having dark red hair:)
It looks brown so you waste 6 months and hundreds of dollars thinking laser is doing something until you finally stop gaslighting yourself into thinking it's actually working and start blasting hundreds of dollars PER MONTH on electro just to buzz a couple hairs at a time my life is a joke:*~~*~~
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Omfg, that sounds like hell. Laser is at least working some for me but I might get to a point where I just need electrolysis because I've heard people say "you have a bit of red in your beard like your great grandpa had"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most people get to that point with electro, even with the darkest hair there's always a few laser can't get. Just be grateful it's only a few instead of your entire face:)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah I'm absolutely grateful that laser is working to get rid of some, it will really help speed things up and it's a lot cheaper. It sucks that just losing the dice roll and getting a red full beard on top of gender dysphoria completely fucks you and makes you have to spend a billion dollars and years getting it all gone. At least with blondies if they shave you can't see it so the in-between isn't as bad
My life is an exercise in self harm i don't need to add to it
If that is ffs then I feel sorry for “her”. Lol ffs is supposed to make you look hot, think about spending that much money to look like an average fat woman lol wouldn't be me hahahahaha
The point is to pass and some of us don't even get that from it kys
This is what happens when a redditor gets too mad Also Nope I won't I look good that is what you uglies do. Also lol I am reporting you rude dude
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
but do you have euphoria boners with this larp ?
Na agp trannies are crazy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
post face
2 weeks ago
Angelic trans girl
Why would I? Think about it for a sec the last anon told me to commit suicide and then right after I'd you asking for a pic lol. You are the same guy, well I don't want to ruin your hugbox you have going on so I am leaving. Have fun jacking it to fat Hons lol
>I just don't get it. Like did i fuck up in a past life to curse myself with this one? 2.5 years hrt, ffs, fin, minox, pio, weight cycling, voice training, all just for people to constantly ask me my pronouns and tell me "you're so brave" and "just give it some more time" and "those guys don't deserve you anyway babe!"
I've seen some chad-hons where this is the case. I believe you.
It could be that if we divide trannies up into levels: >S: Gigapassoid >A: Passoid >B: Twinkhon >C: Hon >D: Chadhon >F: Ogrehon
Putting aside voicetraining, it could be the case that it's possible to move up ~2 tiers using those techniques. If you're a 6'7" Ogrehon and effortmax, you might be able to make it to regular hon status and pray for twinkhon status.
If however, you start off as one of those people who can just pass in makeup/cispoon tier then doing all that will make you a gigapassoid.
It's a mix of starting point and effort.
I started off as a low-tier twinkhon and 2 years of effort and ffs just got me to a mid-high-tier twinkhon. I had really high hopes bc most twinkhons end up passoids after ffs but, unfortunately, i only exist in this world to be tortured by god
I'm thinking about consulting with another surgeon that specializes in lower third but honestly this whole thing has made me realize that the real problem is the massive 23.5" skull and man hands and man shoulders and nothing can ever truly fix that
I'm hot as fuck to chasers like literally the hottest unpassing transwoman they've ever seen bc I'm fem as fuck and effortmaxxed but they all want me to fuck them or suck my dick or do literally anything with my dick bc they're all gay as fuck and i have major dysphoria and straight guys go out of their way to be awkward and make it clear they want nothing to do with me sooooo basically just forever alone
Okay now that you’re talking about skull and hands I’m more convinced you’re BDD posting
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I work in a public facing job, i wear croptops and have boobs and wear a name tag with a 100% girl's name, and people regularly ask me for my pronouns or stumble over their words like "he--i mean she" all the time, i promise I'm not bdd
Bottom chasers truly are scum.
Do you think they’re gay or what?
Not gay necessarily, in my experience just a subset of bi guys that really like dick AND women so trannies are like crack to them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Maybe not bdd but maybe misascribing the issue. I’d focus on more ffs before worrying about hand size
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's the whole package my dude
My face is fem as fuck head on, but as soon as you see a different angle and get the context of the rest of my head and the body it sits on, it's over. Like i could post one anglefraud pic that would make you call me the most bdd person alive then post a candid vid of how people actually see me that would make you say "ong I'm so so sorry"
More ffs will not save me (as if i could afford it anyway)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Did you get forehead work?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, my forehead and nose look great i pray for masks to come back
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
post pic and video
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't want my face associated with my doomposts nor am i an attentionwhore I'm just venting and have nothing to prove
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So what do you think it is about your side profile that’s clocky if it’s not your nose/forehead?
Usually those are the issue. But I could imagine if you have a large jaw that could be it
Could also do a vocaroo so we at least know you voice pass and that’s not the issue. I do believe you I think, just the issue isn’t big hands. It could be an overly big frame from wide shoulders/bodybuilder build if it’s that bad tho
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're too focused on the hands comment, it's just the whole package my dude. i really don't have anything to prove, passing just isn't the cards for all of us even with ffs and seeing shit like op really triggered me. I just have to learn to be the prettiest twinkhon there ever was instead of sitting here feeling sorry for myself but it's really hard sometimes
Well she didn't get her money's worth lol, it's sad to be tricked but even sadder to waste $50k lol
Please fuck off
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm just finding it interesting because I haven't had FFS. If I showed my face on here, a lot would say I don't facially pass and my voice is called clocky in voicegen. Yet I never get clocked irl even around transphobes.
One example among many, I was hanging outside a grocery store at night the other week. I was carrying my groceries and a few teenage potentially criminal types approached me and sweetly/sincerely asked if they could help me out. Then a store employee came out and started accusing them of theft[I go to that store all the time and never accused me so prob right].
I don't think they would've treated me so nicely if I was obviously trans.
I have a petite frame/build even if my shoulders are kinda wide so maybe you're onto it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Congratulations anon ygmi
Just please try not to become a psycho because of it like some...others... in this thread
Yeah I'm absolutely grateful that laser is working to get rid of some, it will really help speed things up and it's a lot cheaper. It sucks that just losing the dice roll and getting a red full beard on top of gender dysphoria completely fucks you and makes you have to spend a billion dollars and years getting it all gone. At least with blondies if they shave you can't see it so the in-between isn't as bad
It's a special sort of hell
Stay grateful anon it will take you far :')
If that is ffs then I feel sorry for “her”. Lol ffs is supposed to make you look hot, think about spending that much money to look like an average fat woman lol wouldn't be me hahahahaha
Then you shouldn't have transition or at the very least show your unpassing face but you still do. See [...]
that is what ffs is supposed to do not make you look like some average fat woman but I guess if your starting face was that bad then lol
>that is what ffs is supposed to do
She already passed before, just ugly. She essentially got beautifying surgery not ffs. The point of ffs is to help you pass you kinda dumb ngl shit bait
she looked like a pooner on the 'before' lmao
Kadyrov transitioned?
I just don't get it. Like did i fuck up in a past life to curse myself with this one? 2.5 years hrt, ffs, fin, minox, pio, weight cycling, voice training, all just for people to constantly ask me my pronouns and tell me "you're so brave" and "just give it some more time" and "those guys don't deserve you anyway babe!"
It truly never ends
I'm so done
Could have just shaved, way more impressive if the before photo was shaved
That's hell, I'm sorry. If I don't even up passing I'm just going to go androgynymode and confuse the fuck out of people I guess
>androgynymode
Not worth it
Every time someone calls you bro or chief or boss or you have to introduce yourself as "boy name" just hurts more and more until you get to the point where you take honmoding bc people pretending they see you as a girl and only occasionally misgendering you on accident is at least somewhat better than moving through the world as a boy
Kinda true... the longer I'm on HRT the harder it is to present male still. It's only been five months for me and I constantly feel tempted to say fuck it and just girlmode but I know it's not worth it just yet so I'm being patient. I've had a few sessions of laser already but I still have very faint shadow on my upper lip and chin even right after shading I need makeup to cover so like I at least want enough laser to get rid of that before I present female. I'm just not comfortable with going out presenting as a girl while still having enough beard shadow that makeup is mandatory to cover it. I think more time on HRT will also make me more feminine, five months isn't a ton in the grand scheme of things. I also feel like I'm more at risk for like losing my job or getting disowned or hatecrimed if I start presenting female too early and like people won't take me as seriously if I come out now. I think I'm going to wait until at least a year into my transition to start girlmoding in public sometimes.
I want to girlmode so bad and to have people stop gendering me male and to stop using my guy voice and to wear cute clothes and makeup that I want to wear but I need to be patient. It hurts to present male but I think it would hurt more to be treated like a total freak this early on. I think eventually I just won't even care though even if I just look like a very pretty boy in makeup and girl clothes
>still have very faint shadow on my upper lip and chin
Lol i would kill for this, I've done laser and electro for two years and still have an entire beard that shows through makeup after just a couple hours and i still girlmode. It causes me incredible distress though so i don't necessarily blame you for waiting I'm just in too deep now
That's nutty, I could grow a full beard and I've had three sessions of laser and my cheeks are sparse hairs only, my neck is like 50% clear, there's a bare patch in the middle of my chin, and the rest of the goatee area is at least thinner and slower growing. I have really dark brown hair though and sorta like pale olive skin
Try having dark red hair:)
It looks brown so you waste 6 months and hundreds of dollars thinking laser is doing something until you finally stop gaslighting yourself into thinking it's actually working and start blasting hundreds of dollars PER MONTH on electro just to buzz a couple hairs at a time my life is a joke:*~~*~~
Omfg, that sounds like hell. Laser is at least working some for me but I might get to a point where I just need electrolysis because I've heard people say "you have a bit of red in your beard like your great grandpa had"
Most people get to that point with electro, even with the darkest hair there's always a few laser can't get. Just be grateful it's only a few instead of your entire face:)
Yeah I'm absolutely grateful that laser is working to get rid of some, it will really help speed things up and it's a lot cheaper. It sucks that just losing the dice roll and getting a red full beard on top of gender dysphoria completely fucks you and makes you have to spend a billion dollars and years getting it all gone. At least with blondies if they shave you can't see it so the in-between isn't as bad
post pics
My life is an exercise in self harm i don't need to add to it
The point is to pass and some of us don't even get that from it kys
Then you shouldn't have transition or at the very least show your unpassing face but you still do. See
that is what ffs is supposed to do not make you look like some average fat woman but I guess if your starting face was that bad then lol
End your life. irl, not in minecraft
Gross ass bitch
This is what happens when a redditor gets too mad Also Nope I won't I look good that is what you uglies do. Also lol I am reporting you rude dude
but do you have euphoria boners with this larp ?
Na agp trannies are crazy
post face
Why would I? Think about it for a sec the last anon told me to commit suicide and then right after I'd you asking for a pic lol. You are the same guy, well I don't want to ruin your hugbox you have going on so I am leaving. Have fun jacking it to fat Hons lol
Your soul is rotten
You will not be missed
>I just don't get it. Like did i fuck up in a past life to curse myself with this one? 2.5 years hrt, ffs, fin, minox, pio, weight cycling, voice training, all just for people to constantly ask me my pronouns and tell me "you're so brave" and "just give it some more time" and "those guys don't deserve you anyway babe!"
I've seen some chad-hons where this is the case. I believe you.
It could be that if we divide trannies up into levels:
>S: Gigapassoid
>A: Passoid
>B: Twinkhon
>C: Hon
>D: Chadhon
>F: Ogrehon
Putting aside voicetraining, it could be the case that it's possible to move up ~2 tiers using those techniques. If you're a 6'7" Ogrehon and effortmax, you might be able to make it to regular hon status and pray for twinkhon status.
If however, you start off as one of those people who can just pass in makeup/cispoon tier then doing all that will make you a gigapassoid.
It's a mix of starting point and effort.
I started off as a low-tier twinkhon and 2 years of effort and ffs just got me to a mid-high-tier twinkhon. I had really high hopes bc most twinkhons end up passoids after ffs but, unfortunately, i only exist in this world to be tortured by god
From what your saying I'd question what FFS procedures you got and if getting more might help
I'm thinking about consulting with another surgeon that specializes in lower third but honestly this whole thing has made me realize that the real problem is the massive 23.5" skull and man hands and man shoulders and nothing can ever truly fix that
I'm hot as fuck to chasers like literally the hottest unpassing transwoman they've ever seen bc I'm fem as fuck and effortmaxxed but they all want me to fuck them or suck my dick or do literally anything with my dick bc they're all gay as fuck and i have major dysphoria and straight guys go out of their way to be awkward and make it clear they want nothing to do with me sooooo basically just forever alone
Okay now that you’re talking about skull and hands I’m more convinced you’re BDD posting
I work in a public facing job, i wear croptops and have boobs and wear a name tag with a 100% girl's name, and people regularly ask me for my pronouns or stumble over their words like "he--i mean she" all the time, i promise I'm not bdd
Not gay necessarily, in my experience just a subset of bi guys that really like dick AND women so trannies are like crack to them
Maybe not bdd but maybe misascribing the issue. I’d focus on more ffs before worrying about hand size
It's the whole package my dude
My face is fem as fuck head on, but as soon as you see a different angle and get the context of the rest of my head and the body it sits on, it's over. Like i could post one anglefraud pic that would make you call me the most bdd person alive then post a candid vid of how people actually see me that would make you say "ong I'm so so sorry"
More ffs will not save me (as if i could afford it anyway)
Did you get forehead work?
Yeah, my forehead and nose look great i pray for masks to come back
post pic and video
I don't want my face associated with my doomposts nor am i an attentionwhore I'm just venting and have nothing to prove
So what do you think it is about your side profile that’s clocky if it’s not your nose/forehead?
Usually those are the issue. But I could imagine if you have a large jaw that could be it
Could also do a vocaroo so we at least know you voice pass and that’s not the issue. I do believe you I think, just the issue isn’t big hands. It could be an overly big frame from wide shoulders/bodybuilder build if it’s that bad tho
You're too focused on the hands comment, it's just the whole package my dude. i really don't have anything to prove, passing just isn't the cards for all of us even with ffs and seeing shit like op really triggered me. I just have to learn to be the prettiest twinkhon there ever was instead of sitting here feeling sorry for myself but it's really hard sometimes
Please fuck off
I'm just finding it interesting because I haven't had FFS. If I showed my face on here, a lot would say I don't facially pass and my voice is called clocky in voicegen. Yet I never get clocked irl even around transphobes.
One example among many, I was hanging outside a grocery store at night the other week. I was carrying my groceries and a few teenage potentially criminal types approached me and sweetly/sincerely asked if they could help me out. Then a store employee came out and started accusing them of theft[I go to that store all the time and never accused me so prob right].
I don't think they would've treated me so nicely if I was obviously trans.
I have a petite frame/build even if my shoulders are kinda wide so maybe you're onto it.
Congratulations anon ygmi
Just please try not to become a psycho because of it like some...others... in this thread
It's a special sort of hell
Stay grateful anon it will take you far :')
Bottom chasers truly are scum.
Do you think they’re gay or what?
none of these pass tho
The only reason
doesn't pass is they don't shave their unibrow.
Although I guess that's more uggo/gross than nonpassing
How did you lighten your skin that much?
your skin loses a tan over time if you dont maintain skin exposure, LOL
That is not a temporary suntan, and you know it.
If that is ffs then I feel sorry for “her”. Lol ffs is supposed to make you look hot, think about spending that much money to look like an average fat woman lol wouldn't be me hahahahaha
>that is what ffs is supposed to do
She already passed before, just ugly. She essentially got beautifying surgery not ffs. The point of ffs is to help you pass you kinda dumb ngl shit bait
Well she didn't get her money's worth lol, it's sad to be tricked but even sadder to waste $50k lol
homosexual redditor to fagotter redditor congratulations I guess
the people here are salty af. looks like my cis girl classmates back in school or university. completely normal and i'd date her too
God I would kill for that look.
Surgeon?
Bro, why does that motherfucker look so young in the after?
i’m still depressed
Is that before and after? From that angle you actually look very similar in both photos, you actually looked pretty decent even before FFS.