Can we get a home networking thread?
I just picked up this router and I'm wondering what people do to configure these things? I already set the dns to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 but I'm looking for more tips like that.
Home networking
Can we get a home networking thread?
I just picked up this router and I'm wondering what people do to configure these things? I already set the dns to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 but I'm looking for more tips like that.
Unfortunately not much you can do with picrel. It's a toy router. Barely any options. It is for normies.
The first thing you should have done was looked at the stacked median latency results, this tells you how snappy wifi will be compared to hooking everything over a wifi cable.
It turns out the cheap ones use extremely dogshit CPUs. Like dual-core 800MHz dogshit, I don't think even $20 wallmart phones have CPUs that bad.
>wifi cable
Is this some sort of zoomer meme?
All joking aside, YES you do have dumb it down THAT much for the average joe.
Zoomers are the dumbest fuckers on the planet. At least boomers have an excuse for being shit with computer and tech shit.
>At least boomers have an excuse for being shit with computer and tech shit.
as do zoomers
phone UIs are insanely dumbed down
that is more than capable for a typical home router
median latency is a bad metric. I also don't get this graph. what is the stacking supposed to represent? are you telling me those routers add 2 whole seconds of latency? I seriously doubt that.
>median latency is a bad metric.
It's an EXTREMELY good metric because marketing will only show you best case scenario latency. The graph shows you the real world combined latency experienced when multiple devices use the wifi router at the same time (cpu resource intensive). Basically adds the latency of device A/B/C/D together.
With wifi cable combined stacked median latency would be something like less than 100ms.
you want the 95th (or more) percentile, not the median.
sorry but that graph really makes no sense and I also really doubt the scientific method used to collect the data
>what people do to configure these things?
Autistically bikeshed about shit that doesnt matter and funny numbers that dont appreciably affect user performance, throw it in the trash once fellow retards stop giving you attention for having it.
Welcome to LULZ
>dual-core 800MHz dogshit
just because your gayman shitware needs a 96 core threadripper and 1.21 niggabytes of RAM to function doesn't mean 800mhz dual core MIPS is bad for a router
routers are heavily hardware accelerated, everything that matters is done with DMA in a bus matrix outside the CPU
> probably has a Broadcom chipset
qualcomm atheros but same difference. might be a tomato or ddwrt build floating around somewhere
>are heavily hardware accelerated
That chart DOES NOT SHOW THAT otherwise Archer A7 would have the exact stacked median latency as the $500 gay men wifi router.
your graph is shows nothing, its fucking trash. no hardware from this century has 500ms let alone 2000ms latency
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Why do you think using a PC as a router (with separate wifi APs) (where the CPU is like 100X faster) improves wifi performance so much?
>compare a 50 watt PC with a 5 watt embedded system
one PCIe lane on that shitbox has more bandwidth than everything in an entire router SoC combined. the antenna is larger and uses more power than the entire router, the wireless card has wider bandwidths and faster modulation. i'd bet my unshaven cock and balls that the CPU on that thing is always idle, even at high loads
dude it's always better to have gear dedicated to a purpose, if you can afford it. makes it more robust and resilient for random shit. when it's all crammed together it's made to work in "normal regular use" but can crap out in certain situations. it's not so complicated to understand why.
now, if you do a shitty job in implementing them that's on you. if done right it works fine for long time without issues (ymmv).
lmao, posting this through my archer a7 with openwrt flash. It really is a dogshit router but with openwrt it has expanded capability, like vlans and third party code
Home routers are generally shit, you're better off buying a switch, building a router from an old desktop and buying a good quality WAP.
Use OpenWRT or AsusWRT on that thing if you are intelligent. Otherwise you just have to make do.
OpenDNS, Quad9 or host your own caching DNS server with unbound. DDNS can be nice if you're hosting game servers for friends on your local network.
If I only have one device to hook into the PC turned router, do I need a switch?
If by single device you mean your WAP then no. If you mean device + WAP then yes.
Could I not accomplish the same thing with a nic card?
I've got a spare optiplex I could use as a router and use my current router as a web access point. So I only need to connect my desktop and the WAP.
A router needs two ports for LAN and WAN, LAN can go to your WAP and WAN will have to go to your modem. So you need at least 2 ports in all cases, 3 ports if you want wifi for your phone and something else connected over ethernet (like a printer, desktop, NAS, etc).
There's cheap 4 port pcie nics on amazon you can get that'll handle everything just fine.
buy a minipc with 4 ethernet ports, and get a proper wifi bridge. why are you fucking around with these pieces of shit "routers"?
You'll learn a lot if you set up a device with OpenWRT or pfSense or something and play around. I've a WRT3200ACM with OpenWRT on it. It's been great.
what's a reliable router brand?
throwing away my Asus ones after every asus router on the planet collectively shat themselves after an """""update"""""
This is why I switched to a tplink. Day 1, thing wouldn't boot, I factory reset it and it kinda fixed stuff. Perodic issues for the next year. Switched to the tplink and it's been perfectly fine
Mikrotik? You should look into that after the recent ASUS drama.
Holy fucking shit, I honestly thought I might have been exaggerating a little with the $20 wallmart phone thing. This piece of shit doesn't even hit 800MHz, god dam.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Nokia-2760-Flip-4GB-Black-Prepaid-Feature-Phone/721170509
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC1750-Smart-WiFi-Router/dp/B079JD7F7G
use DOH instead.
He can't. Because it doesn't have support for DNS over HTTPS. It's a shtibox.
That is on the default firmware of course. And because probably has a Broadcom chipset you can forget alternative firmwares like OpenWrt as well.
Linksys velop master race. Deadzones be fucked.
Only thing I bother doing is enabling 6in4 tunneling if I need it and any firewall rules.
I like the idea of a separate networking thread. We can call it something like /hng/
I'll contribute with a short blurb on where to get started if you're interested in networking.
If you are interested in upgrading your home's network, start with a new router. You have two options for operating systems:
>OpenWRT
https://openwrt.org/
This is a router OS designed for consumer routers, backed by a very active community. I recommend installing it on the TP-Link Archer A7 which is new on Amazon for $52 or used on Ebay for $25 (make sure to buy the v5 hardware revision). Download the OpenWRT image here: https://openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer_a7_v5
I suspect that OpenWRT will be sufficient for 99% of homes.
>OPNsense/Pfsense
https://opnsense.org/download/
I recommend OPNsense (an open-source fork of the commercial Pfsense). It's got all the enterprise-level features you'd ever need and I've had a lot of success with my OPNsense router. I run a datacenter/homelab in my basement and I found OpenWRT to be lacking some critical features. Personally, I found OPNsense to be much more intuitive than OpenWRT.
OPNsense is installed on a computer, not a consumer router. I like the Dell Optiplex SFF machines which are on Ebay for under $200. Make sure your machine has Intel network interfaces, NOT Realtek. Intel cards do their processing on the card itself while Realtek offloads it to the CPU. I recommend an Intel low profile 4 port NIC card which can be found on Ebay for around $50 (I use the Intel I340-T4. If you're using the Optiplex SFF, make sure you also order a low-profile bracket for the NIC). Make sure to install the OS on a SSD for maximum reliability.
Pro-tip: if you have a homelab, consider running two OPNsense routers in high-availability mode where if one router fails traffic will re-router to the other.
For cabling, use CAT6 or CAT7 (which ever is cheaper).
For switches:
>expect to pay at least $25 for a switch. Don't buy something cheap and shitty.
>buy one large 24-port switch now instead of 5-port switches as you expand.
>If you don't have a homelab, stick to unmanaged switches (they're cheaper). If you have a homelab, consider managed switches.
>If you have the money, consider a 2.5G switch. But to utilize the full 2.5 Gbps you need to install a 2.5G NIC in all your wired devices.
For WiFi, I recommend OpenWRT on a (or multiple) TP-Link Archer A7. I encourage you to get super autistic over optimizing WiFi in your house.
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nearly 2 fucking seconds of stacked median latency.
Yeah, but it's cheap and a good entry point.
I'd rather drag my balls over a mile of broken glass.
uh, that's pretty fucking gay
At least I wouldn't having an incessant urgency to blow my brains out as wifi latency spikes hard as a motherfucker when more than 1 person uses that piece of shit wifi box.
you're addicted to por n
Single child with boomer parents who still use flip phones? Lucky motherfucker hogging the wifi router all to yourself. I share it with 10+ devices so eventually I gave up trying to optimize it and now use the wifi cable.
>10 devices
pleb
>Verification not required.
>wifi cable
?
You fucking filthy dirty newfag, see
Gotem
you wouldn't be saying that if you still had them
If you need more than 6a (you don't in a home) it is time for fiber
Yeah, but sometimes 7 is cheaper on Amazon.
I currently have an all in one modem/router. It's shit, seems to be failing and I'd like to swap to something I can openwrt on. I already have an idea for my router, are there any specific things I should look for in a modem? My ISP also sent me an all in one so that's a no-go.
I have an APU4D4 with OpenWrt.
I'm cool. No further comments.
dumb jeep fag
u jelly bro
how's the flint gl-ax1800?
ax1800 isn't that powerful, but that seems like a pretty based built in software stack
what's something with a little more power/?
do they have an ax3200 version?
It's good for the price, ethernet and wifi speeds, and OpenWrt availability. For $100 it's a winner.
Downside: 512mb ram, 128mb nand.
what's the downside to 512mb ram and 128mb nand?
nothing he's just a spec sperg, that router will handle anything you throw at it
moar connections
you do have 10000 torrents and run privacy relays, right?
Interesting.
I can't seem to find what vlan support the Qualcomm Atheros QCA8075 has.
Who the fuck buys routers anymore?
based virtualizer
>cpu usage 3%
Fuck man, maybe lower the CPU frequency a little? That's like using a chainsaw to cut a stick. Would be really nice of router companies threw in some laptop celery CPUs on their routers though.
>not flashing openwrt to a $30 belkin/linksys 3200
ngmi