How Christians say history happened:
>God sat around for infinite time smelling his own farts
>"I got it! I'll create another realm with other beings for some reason!"
>Creates the Universe and Earth in 6 days
>Creates low IQ animals that do nothing but eat and shit for some reason
>Proofs human race into existence out of dust 6,000 years ago
>They eat the magic fruit and God curses the whole Universe gets cursed
>God floods the entire Earth to kill all humans except 8 (and all evil animals)
>Didn't work because he forgot to lift the curse, so humans go back to being sinful
>"I got it! I'll send myself as a sacrifice to myself to lift the curse! Brilliant!"
>It worked. It actually fucking worked. The human race is saved.
>2,000 years of suffering and death continue as if nothing changed
>God is nowhere to be found
>World is on the brink of nuclear war and humans about to go extinct
How history really happened:
>Universe emerged from the unknown
>Expanded over 13.7 billion years
>Particles formed hydrogen atoms, which formed stars, which exploded and formed new elements, which formed asteroids, which formed planets, of which 1 of the hundred trillion planets formed animated self-replicating matter called life by random chance
>Life evolved through the process of natural selection over 4 billion years from simple cell to complex multi-cell organisms
>Struggle, competition, war, suffering and death present from the very beginning
>Ape-like creatures evolved into modern humans
>Humans created civilization, language, writing, religion and technology
>Humans still carry in them all the primitive animalistic traits and instincts of their ancestors, which causes suffering
>No God was ever involved in any step of the process
That's a nice fairy tale you're telling yourself. Do people really believe in billions of years and evolution? in 2023?
Yes, most of the scientists making all the progress of the world that give us medicine, computers, and all technological advancement believe in evolution and are atheists.
The general public (you) who know nothing, have no skills, and contribute nothing to the world are the ones that believe in God.
looks like materialists are in the minority among scientists according to your data?
>scientists created computers
>and all technological advancement
>41% > 50%
I go to Harvard, idiot
Anyone can get into Harvard these days.
Someone wrote "Black Lives Matter" over and over on their application and got in. Was it you?
It was not me, but that was both a high IQ and a high T move.
Although funny enough now that I think about it, one of my very first classes the professor started to go into how the universe it 13 billion years old apropos of nothing. Literally it was a class on financial statistics and he started teaching us how to calculate the supposed age of the universe. So hey maybe you'd fit right in. Send in an application!
>I go to Harvard
(You) can never recover from this
>
Yes, most of the scientists making all the progress of the world that give us medicine, computers, and all technological advancement believe in evolution and are atheists.
The general public (you) who know nothing, have no skills, and contribute nothing to the world are the ones that believe in God.
created computers
>>and all technological advancement
>>41% > 50%
>I go to Harvard, idiot
Steve Jobs
Bill Gates
- Scientist? uh, No.
Drop-outs!
Bucko the universe is far older than 13.7 years old, the OBSERVABLE universe is 13.7 billion years old. It's like being in a puddle and you can only observe things in the puddle. So you exclaim the 'universe' (which you can't tell is a puddle) was created 13.7 billion years ago, which is true, but it was created as a result of the actual universe.
Big bang is a hoax universe's age cannot be calculated only relative age of local observable space time can be relarionally calculated
Fucking religious retard
You're spouting conspiracy theories that you cannot confirm.
>conspiracy theories
Given current evidence it's more likely than any silly cosmology you believe in blindly without evidence, fool. You are exactly the same as you were as a young child, blindly believing what you are told. Never did I believe in any "God", unlike you.
>it's more likely than any silly cosmology you believe in
Prove it.
You can't.
Prove the big bang is a valid theory you absolute schizo. You are actually worse than a Christian.
Universe is expanding, which can be confirmed from the redshifting and blueshifting of galaxies.
>Universe is expanding
There is zero evidence of this
The observable universe is expanding
That does not mean the universe is expanding
You cannot make claims outside of what is verifiable unless it's based on faith
Show me the data on the unobservable universe you are speaking of.
Thabks for proving you are not a scientist mongoloid
You are telling about how the unobservable universe behaves, how it doesn't expand, yet you have no data to back that up.
Why would the observable universe be expanding but the unobservable part not be expanding? It's all part of the same thing except for our light boundary.
Something cant become from nothing. Violates conservation of energy law and shit.
Ah yes sir , , I see you are reconnasiour of fine internet articles saying universe is 27 billion year old. Very smart to get ahead and make idiot think you realized yourself in high school... Very smart sir indeed...
Everything we can observe is approximately 13.7 billion years old
And the observable matter is expanding
That alone is not evidence of anything to lead us to believe in a "big bang", current understanding of redshift disproves the big bang
>>"God sat around for infinite time"
Stopped readin there. You are low IQ.
>inb4 Dirk starts schizoposting about actual infinities
>God sat around for infinite time
This is how an atheist "understands" religion.
You should give up already.
What was God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit doing before they created Heaven and the Universe?
sex with eve
Protties are so fucking tasteless, its hilarious.
Protestant art always looks like the cover of a shitty fantasy book.
>like the cover of a shitty fantasy book.
>a shitty fantasy book
and why would that be, anon?
Reality happens to be too complicated for a good portion of humans to understand. They choose an easier superstition with a story that tickles their emotions, belief that they’re special and idea that they’ll live forever.
>Reality happens to be too complicated for a good portion of humans to understand. They choose an easier superstition with a story that tickles their emotions, belief that they’re special and idea that they’ll live forever.
And Monotheism is a dumbed down version of Polytheism.
No its more like
>God existed in the universe and was roaming through space then created the solar system for no explained reason
X made on X day is humans unable to grasp that God could create a star system in a microsecond
Marvel bullshit
He created a lot BEFORE thinking about Us
His farts don't smell, Think about it.
God is Spirit.
He is Not like Man.
Why make this thread? Just to show off how dumb you are?
>mystical book
>I will interpret this fully literally
>Heh, you're so dumb for believing
have you considered that mythology describes the Logic behind reality in a culturally relevant context? Do you understand that logic is universal and known to all beings that know language? Do you understand that the fruit symbolizes a certain knowledge? Do you understand that this knowledge makes people suffer? Do you understand that there is a path to not suffer anymore?
let me greentext it for you
your logic:
>the big bang
>earth
>biology
>evolution
>social behaviour
>moral systems/religion/culture
>superficial meta-awareness of this process
deep logic:
>I understand that all religion is behavior
>So I should find the right behaviour
>the right behaviour is evolutionarily bound so I must find knowledge to educate myself on the right behaviour
>I must explore the subconscious
>Perhaps I can take some drugs like a curious child
maybe trip hard enough that reality disintegrates, you'll understand religischizos
Word salad with nothing actually being said.
>World is on the brink of nuclear war and humans about to go extinct
Wow thank you """scientists""", I'll stick with God thank you
You know I really do struggle with time and timelessness and how the two relate
Even in secular cosmology there was no time before the Big Bang
Ok but I am a theist so I don't have to think about secular cosmology
>Ok but I am a theist so I don't have to think
You're a worthless uneducated idiot who has never invented or created or contributed anything valuable to society.
>Universe emerged from the unknown
So god, got it