Historically has it been worth it to buy box sets of cards for the big 3 (Magic, Yu-gi-oh, Pokemon), let it sit there for a few years unopened and the...

Historically has it been worth it to buy box sets of cards for the big 3 (Magic, Yu-gi-oh, Pokemon), let it sit there for a few years unopened and then flip it?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody wants to buy unopened cards from a random guy when they could just buy them from the store for cheaper and know they're not fake or tampered with. You don't even know what you have so can't just say it's more valuable years later just because. Most cards you get in a Pokemon pack are bullshit starter cards and energy or whatever, that could be the entire pack with nothing else in it. So not only would it be garbage but it'd also be old by the time you sell it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody wants to buy unopened cards from a random guy when they could just buy them from the store for cheaper and know they're not fake or tampered with.

      What stores carry box sets that are that old?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any Tcg local store in your area
        Is pretty much your same strategy but as an official store you pay taxes but have a play base of fat cucks that will buy your cardboard bags

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Guess that's the problem with my perspective; I don't have a dedicated TCG store anywhere near me. A TTG store like 2 mins from me but they only stock new booster packs which you can pretty much get anywhere. If I wanted to buy a box I could get one at a comic book store like 15 mins down the road, but again only new ones. There used to be a place at my mall that would have been my best bet but they closed two years ago. I've legitimately never seen old boxes in brick and mortar.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Any Tcg local store in your area
          Every TCG store in my local area is just inflating prices to what they can get off the web if they were selling it there. No one sane offers an in-store discount anymore when the majority of purchases happen online because people don't want to go to in-person stores.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My in-person store offers okay prices and the owner is a nice guy that's given me more than enough in loyalty rewards. I do agree though, why shop local when I can buy on eBay if the value isn't there? I can't afford to pay you for "sentiment" or whatever unfortunately.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy crypto, dude. You might actually get somewhere.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't buy the new boxes. They might end up good though tbf.

      Cards form part of a diverse portfolio.

      I like Dead CCGs at the moment.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a box of modern horizons 2 last year for 250 euros, now you can buy it online for 190 euros through card game dealers or through amazon for 220 euros.

    I think magic might be dying but I can't really tell. This is the first time I've bought sealed product like this. Magic just prints too much sealed product for an investment to really be worth it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think MH2 is being hardcore long term printed. Pretty sure they're still printing it right now as I type this. Once they stop printing it it should start to go up slowly over time. A lot off killer cards in it that are basically modern staples. Wizards is powercreeping the shit out of eternal formats now though so who the fuck can say.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed, it has great staples like the fetch lands and cabal coffers. As long as the game holds steady I can probably make a very nice profit. But its very likely that they might print another set of fetch lands before these boxes have had time to accumulate value.

        >is powercreeping the shit out of eternal formats now though
        That's also something I'm worried about, but since the set is mostly known for its lands I think it shouldn't be too much they can power creep it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think magic might be dying but I can't really tell.
      It is. People are getting massive burnout from all the tranny shit and powercreep. Its going down after this last milking of nostalgia with the new Dominaria set.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prerelease attendance is down, but that's been ongoing since I started in 2016. Non-GP conventions regularly had on demand drafts that would realistically fire every 15 minutes, but now they never fire.

        That doesn't mean that people aren't buying product though. I really feel like wizards has done a good job capturing the myopic "consume product, buy shiny thing" demographic that is mostly invisible in the open world. Most people are true NPCs and can't even be bothered to go to an FNM.

        The issue there is that these types of consumers are interested in the latest and greatest, not your vintage garbage. Furthermore the product release cycle is so fast that nobody has any time to build up any sort of lasting memory/bond to a set, so there's no chance to be nostalgic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >magic might be dying
      It absolutely is
      With the rise of commander, many people just buy one of each card they need, make one deck and then never buy cards ever again except a niche new card that comes out every few sets when previously they needed 4 of each card and they were only relavant while that set was legal for standard play
      The only way forward is for them to have a constantly updated ban list for commander, but they're hesitant to do that because they still see it as a casual format regardless of how many people are converting over to it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you have absolutely no fucking idea what you’re talking about LMAO

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice rebuttal LMAO
          go to any card shop and there are maybe half as many people playing in standard tournaments than there were 10 years ago
          Much of the cost of cards came from the fact that these homosexuals were w revolving door of money that bought 4x of expensive cards every single set

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's more layers and subtlety to it, but you're entirely right. Commander is magic. People might only need to buy a single copy, but that means they tend to be more willing to pay a higher price per card. $10-20 here and there for upgrades stings a lost less than dropping $200 on a playset of baneslayer angels or $400 on JTMS. It's also possible to just sell less to more people and sustain that way.

            Prices are down less because of the singleton requirement and more because there's just so many viable alternatives. In a casual format you can skimp. Mana crypt has been absolutely hammered with reprints over the last few years, but it always bounces back, since the effect is irreplaceable. Same goes for dual lands steadily climbing.

            >revolving door of money that bought 4x of expensive cards every single set

            This dynamic is unironically the single greatest testament to how comfy the 90's and early 00's were. It's not that these players were rich, it's that all other costs were so damn low. I made $8.50/hr (around $1,200/mo) at Wal-Mart in 2005 but my half of the rent and utilities was only $240/month. I easily had an extra $600/month available after paying for my car and Totino's pizzas.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah of course nobody plays standard anymore you fucking retard, it’s a shit format for sweaty nerds who buy a play set of cards then sell them immediately at a loss after their tournament. meanwhile EDH is BOOMING, a format for sweaty whales who build a permanent deck that they have emotional ties to, not only that but newly printed legends create demand for old obscure cards and new pushed cards alike. so go fuck yourself and stay losing while i make money hand over fist. here’s a small look into my portfolio with cost basis

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Should have bought the [redacted] and [redacted] sets if you wanted long term gains (2x-3x). No I'm telling any of you still accumulating.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oversaturated market, so no more chance to profit unless 80% of current investors vanish. there are millions of unopened product sitting in warehouses right now, and those will never sell, at least not for profit

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pokemon
    >a few years
    Unironically the most profitable moment a booster box in Pokemon is valuable is when no one has the cards and everyone knows the meta. A few years means you’ll hold a bunch of cards out of rotation and only usable in expanded tourney play I.E. when no one wants your box bc everyone just wants specific singles that already exist.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magic sealed product does very well like 85% of the time. They're printing so much and releasing so much now I can't say for sure but a lot of sets from like 10 years ago are doing amazing. We could be seeing over-saturation soon but I imagine shit will still do fairly well especially the really draft desirable sets

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's the next stamp collecting. you're way too late. even with wholesale prices, connections and insider info like alpha investments it's getting less and less profitable.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the big 3 are mtg, pokemon and xmen, retard

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I reccomend getting sealed "specialty" products like this Metazoo x Ebay limited time lunchbox.

    Collectors boxes from MTG. Mario Pikachu from Pokemon, The Eevee Mega Collection box, etc. Secret Lairs with a cool twist. I noticed that kind of stuff does slightly better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No kids know anything about meta zoo. Stop shilling this bullshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        well im sure they know about bigfoot and jack frost and men in black. a sucker is born every minute. bye now thanks for the bump in one of my favorite types of very worthwhile, relevant threads.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hnnnngh all the low iq takes in this thread are making me bullish as FUCK. thank you saint rudy thank you!!!!

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes for Yugioh if they have good cards
    >Buy unsealed structure decks for $10
    >Wait 3 years until they're no longer produced
    >Sell for $60 each

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better idea, come up with a gimmick like grading cards that catches on. Then you're not stuck holding cardboard for 20 years in a damp basement.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Historically has it been worth it to buy box sets of cards for the big 3 (Magic, Yu-gi-oh, Pokemon), let it sit there for a few years unopened and then flip it?
    Where do you even find retro cards in the wild? I cannot for the life of me find these things in stores, only the newer cards which no one cares about

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why doesn't bestbuy carry 8tack players anymore? why do i have to buy it off ebay?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yugioh: sometimes
    Pokemon: yes, but more so if the set has charizard or pikachu
    Magic: mostly

    Yugioh reprints a lot, so the values of cards are mostly about whether or not they are meta and whether or not they are printed in specific rarities. There are also meta staples that get reprinted in common rarity, but placed into structure decks, so are usually worth while to hold on to until they go out of print.

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