Hedonistic beliefs such as atheism are doomed to allow people to succumb to greed and lust.


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Hedonistic beliefs such as atheism are doomed to allow people to succumb to greed and lust. If you don't believe anything matters then you will be prone to take advantage of and harm your fellow man.

  1. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    People generally agree that taking serious advantage of others should be illegal and they often are. Meanwhile a Christian guy was arguing with me that there should be no minimum wage the other day.

    Your worldview lacks complexity and nuance

    • 2 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Meanwhile a Christian guy was arguing with me that there should be no minimum wage the other day
      Wow just wow I can't even, not the heckin' wagerino. I'm literally shaking right now

      • 2 days ago
        Anonymous

        Entitled atheists are the bane of my existence

  2. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Christians are the ultimate hedonists; they believe they will attain unlimited pleasure in the heaven.

    • 2 days ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with this. Even if you don't interpret religion literally, how is it not the highest degree of hedonism to sacrifice minor pleasures for greater ones, or to know restraint to not get numbed down and thus allow yourself enjoying the same pleasure for a much longer time?

  3. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    You say this while posting an A.I generated picture of human beings burning in hell, clearly you derive pleasure from imagining people being in pain and torment.

    In other words, you're exactly the kind of person you say you hate.

  4. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yet religious countries are the biggest shitholes.

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      What decent country wasn't founded on Christian principles?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        what criteria defined decent? christian countries have trannies

        • 3 days ago
          Anonymous

          Name a good country that didn't have its culture rooted in Christianity that wasn't restructured by a Christian nation.

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            good in what aspects? if i'd name countries with admirable culture, you'd cry about their economies, if i'd name a country with good economy, you'd critique their culture for not fitting your personal criteria, so what do you want when you ask for a good country? there seems to be a lot of legroom for sophism

          • 3 days ago
            Anonymous

            >that wasn't restructured by a Christian nation
            so specific that its clearly setting up a sophistic "gotcha" to deflect anything substantive id argue for, i could just as well trivialize the criteria for what constitutes a "christian country"

            • 3 days ago
              Anonymous

              Can't think of any, can you?

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                look youre not even responding to my questions, youre clearly baiting me and not looking for an actual answer to what youve asked of me

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                E-christians loathe the concept of clarifying questions because it prevents them from railroading you into a cheap gotcha. When you ask them to clarify what they mean, they will typically ignore the question altogether or claim that you're deflecting.

              • 3 days ago
                Anonymous

                i agree; the early church fathers were massive sophists, which is why, even though im secular regarding religion, i identify more with the islamicate thinkers of the scholastic period, rather than the christian ones

        • 2 days ago
          Anonymous

          bad argument

          • 2 days ago
            Anonymous

            its a question not an argument

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        European countries weren't founded on christian ideals. christian ideals is about being a ascetic cuck and waiting for the afterlife, not finding countries.

      • 2 days ago
        Anonymous

        Define Christian principles.

  5. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    How is atheism a hedonistic belief? Which scriptures or teachings should i be looking at? Or perhaps you have a matrix comparing tenets of various ideologies?

  6. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >When we say, then, that pleasure is the end and aim, we do not mean the pleasures of the prodigal or the pleasures of sensuality, as we are understood to do by some through ignorance, prejudice, or willful misrepresentation. By pleasure we mean the absence of pain in the body and of trouble in the soul. It is not an unbroken succession of drinking-bouts and of revelry, not sexual lust, not the enjoyment of the fish and other delicacies of a luxurious table, which produce a pleasant life; it is sober reasoning, searching out the grounds of every choice and avoidance, and banishing those beliefs through which the greatest tumults take possession of the soul.
    >- Epicurus
    This is what you're arguing against btw, stupid crosshead.

  7. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    do homosexuals go to heaven? christianity says yes!
    >In an Orthodox Book of Canon law, 'the Pedalion', also known as 'the Rudder', it is stated that a ritual called 'Adelphopoiesis', meaning 'Wedbrotherhood': "affords matter for certain persons (of the same sex) to fulfill their carnal desires and to enjoy sensual pleasures, as countless examples of actual experience have shown at various times and in various places [...]"

  8. 3 days ago
    Anonymous

    >atheism dooms people to greed and lust
    >implying everything before wasn't full of it already

    Should we also return to monarchy, and those TOTALLY NOT hedonist aristocrats?

    • 3 days ago
      Anonymous

      To be atheist is to believe that nothing matters and that we can succumb to our worldly vices without consequences. What's stopping me from committing rape if not a divine presence?

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >When we say, then, that pleasure is the end and aim, we do not mean the pleasures of the prodigal or the pleasures of sensuality, as we are understood to do by some through ignorance, prejudice, or willful misrepresentation. By pleasure we mean the absence of pain in the body and of trouble in the soul. It is not an unbroken succession of drinking-bouts and of revelry, not sexual lust, not the enjoyment of the fish and other delicacies of a luxurious table, which produce a pleasant life; it is sober reasoning, searching out the grounds of every choice and avoidance, and banishing those beliefs through which the greatest tumults take possession of the soul.
        >- Epicurus
        This is what you're arguing against btw, stupid crosshead.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        >he's admitting that he wants to commit rape
        >the only reason he's not raping is that he's afraid of going to hell
        You belong in a mental institution, pal.

      • 3 days ago
        Anonymous

        For normal people? Their desire to not harm others
        For people like you? Laws and fists.

  9. 2 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Follow a nihilist fail son and his three headed pedo demon
    >Call others immoral
    Polytheism is an abominable doctrine and you are terrible person for accepting it.

    • 2 days ago
      Anonymous

      Christianity is not polytheistic

  10. 2 days ago
    Anonymous

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