>hated by Catholics and orthodoxy
>created some of the most influential sects of Christianity
Was he based?
>hated by Catholics and orthodoxy. >created some of the most influential sects of Christianity
>hated by Catholics and orthodoxy
>created some of the most influential sects of Christianity
Was he based?
I just wish somebody would explain Calvinism simply and accurately, and how it differs from non-Calvinism.
Everything you did was determined in advance and you are a victim of some fucked up circumstances
>I just wish somebody would explain Calvinism simply and accurately
The Reformed faith is an entire systematic theology, so you can only have one of these.
Calvinist theology depends on who you’re trying to own in arguments. Never seen a consistent Calvinist before
Does God's plan include the existence of false religions according to Calvinism? Sourced replies only.
All you need to know is you don’t need to waste your time in a Calvinist or Reformed church. You can get an even more fulfilling spiritual experience from YouTube exegesis videos, clips and sermons tbh.
You’re basically forcing yourself to lose braincels and signing up to lose YEARS of your life following a straw corpse
Reminder that one of Calvin's and Knox's biggest criticisms of Catholicism was that they didn't value the Old Testament as much as the New Testament. They invented the concept of Judeo-Christianity, before the Reformation most laymen and commoners only cared about the Gospels.
The Old Testament tends to be quite based, so that's a good thing.
>*rubs hands*
>Christians value the word of God
Shocking, why can't they just value the dictates of elderly Italian noblemen like us
>constant poor health
>successful law student. Studies the stoics.
>reluctantly became a reformer on the persuasion of Farel
>stuck to his convictions even when unpopular
>outed from his pastoral office. years later welcomed back. Doesn't make any fuss about it, just picks up where he left off in preaching.
>declined an offer of marriage into a wealthy family. Didn't like the political implications.
>learns to love admiring Bucer's family
>marries a former anabaptist despite the optics because he loves her
>composes a complex systematic theology
>begins a French language metrical psalter for congregational worship
>as he's dying, leaves express instructions to be buried in an unmarked grave. The movement is not about him.
He was based
>The movement is not about him.
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It wasn't it started before him in Switzerland. Calvinism was an insult that the Lutherans and Catholics used.
Can you please reply to
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>rejects church, church fathers
>cursed by God
Reformed moment
Seems to me he was much more blessed than you, who will remember your name?
>blessed are you when you are reviled
>the meek shall inherit the earth
are you when you are reviled
Calvin is most blessed.
He helped execute a little girl for being unruly, instead of catechizing her and being patient. He wanted to enact old Israel with this harshness instead of the mercy of Christ. He oversaw punishing all kinds of thought crimes. He WAS the reviler.
According to the trinity doctrine, it was Jesus who oversaw and ordered all the OT harshness.
Learn the difference of covenants and who they apply to.
Doesn't contradict what I said, nagger.
>reformed
>rejects fathers
Ignorant
>reformed Iconoclasm
>Literally condemned by church council
Willfully ignorant
It was a council of heretics
The objective stance of the early church as observed by academic consensus is aniconic
Illegitimate church council which contradicted prior and subsequent church councils (like Sirmium)*
>sects
Gee. Great. There's like half of dozen varieties of Calvinism alone, and then many sub-denominations that subscribe them. You think chaos was the plan of God? Do you even Genesis brow? He brought Order to the primordial chaos. Anyone trying to introduce it again is evil.
Jordan B. Peterson is not a legitimate theological authority my man, he can't even believe in God.
Who? What? What is Peterson have to do with anything?
This is cope. You guys use it yourselves all the time. Now you want to blame others for your own cringe.
Your order and chaos nonsense is a line straight from JBP even if you don't know it
Influential and good are two different things. Reforming the Church from within would have been better, and that happened later anyway.
He's a murderer. Even if you use the bystander cope in the case of Servetus, his writings reveal it was clearly in his heart to murder all those he deemed heretics. He's burning in hell. Anabaptist leadership never murdered anybody and are pacifists to this day.
Jesus forgave murderers too
Okay?
It doesn't make his exposition of scripture any less valid
*Calvin's
>t. thinks the OT God commanded murder
Wat?
The OT is full of the "murder" of heretics.
Sure but what the fuck does
mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_rebellion?wprov=sfla1
Servetus deserved it
How did he deserve to be burnt alive?
Deuteronomy 13:1-5
>muh new covenant
>muh cessation
>muh seabugs and bacon
It's from the very opening of Genesis. And it's basic Bible 101.
Can I ever talk to you zoomers without some reference to some eceleb?
Imagine considering "based" someone that literally caused millions of deaths and hundreds of years of wars inside European soil.
Imagine the one that caused the major division among Europeans on History.
Is people stupid? He should be hated.
How did he do that?
Without his ideas those consequences would not have happened. Did Marx cause millions of death because of communism? Not directly but his ideas (of division, hate, etc) caused them.
30 years war. And it produced a bunch of self-hating Europeans like yourself (if that's what you even are). Protestants are just the firstfruits of paganlarpers and Nietzsche fanboys who think 1000+ years was some mistake. You don't all individually bear the brunt of it, but you still follow destroyers of Western civilization and on top of that, offered nothing good in return as an alternative.
>you destroyed Europe
>by resisting our attempts to exterminate you
The true faith is Europe's only hope, not its destroyer.
That's a photograph of John Calvin
I never said anything about being "based". I'm desperately in need of God's mercy. As all of you are. Every day, for the rest of our lives. I'm not saved or righteous. This is more Protestant talk. I'm merely in the process, with God's help.
>I'm not saved or righteous
You certainly aren't as long as you think it's a "process". The righteous are righteous from the moment of their faith, by faith alone.
The only time "faith alone" is in scripture is in the negative. Wake up already! Stop listening to men's words and listen to God. You say you are "Sola Scriptura" - then live up to it. Shut up and just listen.
>You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.-James 2:24
Faith and grace is a lifelong ordeal. Or do you think St. Paul is your accomplice? He will be the one who judges you, if you don't listen:
>What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.-Romans 6:1-4
>Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. Well, I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air; but I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.-1 Corinthians 9:24-27
Paul POMMELS himself. This is Olympian talk. Like a exercise montage from a Rocky movie. That's the walk of faith. From the very saint you guys try to rope in as preaching "faith alone".
Catholics started that by trying to enforce religious uniformity