Has one man changed the course of history so much as Jesus?

Has one man changed the course of history so much as Jesus?

Muslims venerates him as being the man most nearest to God, the largest segment of the religious world directly worships him as God, and countless, countless lives have loved, lived, died, and killed for him. Has one person ever, before or after him, ever left such a mighty indelible stamp on human history as the humble carpenter from Nazareth?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    no, unless you are a fag and count whoever invented fire or something or the first human and pretend nobody else would have

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >carpenter
    >in a country where there's mostly deserts

    Yeah, not buying it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >carpenter
      >in a country where there's mostly deserts
      >where buildings are mostly stone and mud
      >forests were used up millenia ago to construct phoenician fleets

      Yeah, not buying it

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >creating wine from water and spreading it amongst lower classes was just Church justifying it's wine monopoly and bacchanalias
        >defending whores was Church justifying away temple prostituiton
        >prophecies apply to him only if you bend your mind very-very much
        >full of anachronisms and blatant lack of historical knowledge at the time - such as making Pilat overseeing the court personally despite the outspoken Roman policy of not intervening into religious wars

        Come on guys, post more ridiculous shit that proves that Christ is just a legend and post-factum justification of Church's doctrine later, rewritten and reimagined over and over

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think he had to turn grifter?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He likely didn't. He was just a usual religious schizo. Most likely Jesus got mixed up in various details with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Caesarea Basil the Great (literally translates to "the Great King", lol). Check this shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudo-Basil also

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry but what does Saint Basil the Great have with getting mixed up with Jesus? He was a patriarch when Christianity was long established.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Book copying was done by hand with lots of errors. Add on top of that the costs of writing, how unrelated works oftentimes were written in the same paper (various stories were very loosely connected via "and thus" kind of constructions), and then add translation problems (Great Basil -> Great King) and the tendency of medieval copyists to clarify shit (with them themselves being oftentimes wrong) and it becomes a fucking certainty that it all will get mixed up.

              Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pious_fraud

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Book copying was done by hand with lots of errors. Add on top of that the costs of writing, how unrelated works oftentimes were written in the same paper (various stories were very loosely connected via "and thus" kind of constructions), and then add translation problems (Great Basil -> Great King) and the tendency of medieval copyists to clarify shit (with them themselves being oftentimes wrong) and it becomes a fucking certainty that it all will get mixed up.

              Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pious_fraud

              And regarding Jesus' birth date https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/jesus-crucifixion-date-0013530 Astronomically speaking, it doesn't match with the records of Roman emperors and such. Mentions of Tiberius Caesar and Pilate might as well have been later additions to the Bible - added by copyists to "clarify" rather than the original text

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are a hundred contenders for "Jesus was akshually", why do you think yours is better?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Atheists are such pathetic homosexuals honestly.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you... you do know trees regrow right

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.worldhistory.org/Phoenician_Architecture/
          https://archaeologyillustrated.com/

          They were using the same materials their descendants used in middle ages. Very little wood was used for construction for obvious reasons

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you... you do know trees regrow right

      LULZ atheists actually believe the ancient levant was a desert

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brainlet detected

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no Jesus without Zoroaster.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sacred fire in a sunless place, inshallah

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The one man who was even greater than Jesus, I say, would be Adolf Hitler. And I don’t say that because I think they are somehow alike or even because I admire both men. Both were men who believed their ideas were for the good of mankind and they ruthlessly pursued them to the end. Both were willing to kill and die for their ideas. Both used their great talents to build up a huge movement around them. Both were ruthless disciplinarians who had the discipline beaten out of their followers with their whips. Both had followers.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paul

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Has one man
    one myth*

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vespasian. He's the one who gave Christianity a kickstart to pacify the israelites; commissioning Josephus to write the bible.
    No Vespasian, no Christianity.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh okay so a guy nobody knows wasnt as important as jesus! thanks for contributing nothing redditor

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >On LULZ
      >Not knowing Vespasian
      You're fucking retarded.

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