>Half the country is Dutch
>Half the country is French
>Named after a Celtic(?) group they have little to do with other than location
Why does this country even exist? Like, what’s the deal here? Did the Netherlands lose a war and as such have to give up the land? Who is responsible for this? Was it the french? Germans? Brits?
They are just French. Flemish were considered Frankish speaking French 500 years ago
>>Half the country is Dutch
we're not dutch, we're flemings, brabanters, and limburgers
>source: britopedia
>we're not dutch, we're dutch, dutch, and dutch
Some Brabanters and Limburgers are Dutch yes, the powers from abroad have divided us brothers among two states which owe no loyalty to us
British puppet state
take your garbage back to /int/, thank you
>t. belgian upset his country only exists as an area denial strategy
Belgium is literally a country at the same level as Belarus and Ukraine, geographic buffer as a state.
No, he's right. Britain was terrified at the prospect of a hostile power occupying the channel ports. One of the reasons for Germany's desire to make Belgium a vassal in WW1 was to have a dagger pointed it at Britain to deter the Eternal Anglo's bloodthirst.
please educate me on how the british carved out some land out of france and the netherlands at random and called it belgium
and put a prussian noble on the throne as well because why not
England made it up to troll mainlanders
myth
>Why does this country even exist? Like, what’s the deal here? Did the Netherlands lose a war
Sort of. At the start of the 16th century, more or less the entire territory of the low countries was under Habsburg control for dynastic reasons. Then the Dutch revolted, but only managed to hold on to the territory more or less approximating the modern borders of the Netherlands at the end. "Belgium" was retained by the Habsburgs - first the Spanish, later transferred to the Austrians. Finally, after the Napoleonic wars, it went to the Netherlands.
Which is where the dutch losing a war comes in. As a result of being held by the Habsburgs before, Belgium was Catholic. As the Catholic part of the Netherlands, they didn't like being Dutch, so they revolted, and won.
why would belgium be connect to netherlands in anyway, dutch culture is similar to northern germany and unlike belgium or even flanders
Why did you let them revolt and get off so easy?
Belgium was sold to the Netherlands after Napoleon and everyone recognized it as your rightful property.
>you
I'm not d*tch, fuck off
Bongs wanted a buffer between the German states and France, or something.
>I'm not d*tch, fuck off
Why the fuck not? Do you not know about their drug and sex culture?
>Named after a Celtic(?) group they have little to do with other than location
this is no less true for any other country
the alemani, the franks, the angles, have little to do with modern populations, so i don't know why this statement would be more applicable for belgium
They remained loyal to Catholicism and the Habsburgs when Maurice of Nassau was fighting against Catholic Imperialism to make the Netherlands a Protestant free state iirc.
>Who is responsible for this? Was it the french? Germans? Brits?
the belgians
belgium was far more relevant and richer than the netherlands back then (19th century)
1830 Opera revolt, leading to secession and getting international support. French helped because interest in the French population. French population was maintained in Belgium because other Great Powers didn't want that part adding to French power/industry in wake of Napoleon (plus France's own 1830 revolts were again anti-monarchist).
Subsequent treaties in the decade led to international treaties defending Belgian neutrality and Dutch renouncing their claims on the lands, and this treaty in 1830s is what got Britain involved in WW1.
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>Hitlor
>Wat nou dood
>Celtic
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>Why does this country even exist?
Belgium was basically created by the Anglos to make it sure that the French couldn't properly fortify the Rhine to defend themselves against a German invasion.
source?
>Belgium was basically created by the Anglos to make it sure that the French couldn't properly fortify the Rhine to defend themselves against a German invasion.
Belgium was created by the Anglos because if you want to invade Britain, the best place to do it from is the mouth of the Scheldt.
belgium is indeed two nations
but it's not "Flanders" and "Wallonia", that's made up
there are two nations and it's Southern Netherlands and the Liege princebishopic
And the Africans who are now about 30%
>>Half the country is Dutch
>>Half the country is French
And all of it is redundant
Meme tier state that should have been divided between France and Netherlands. Complete cosmopolitan as it it's the center of many European organizations. Also seems to love importing a shit ton of nigg*rs and sandnigg*rs, especially Moors.
neither the french nor the dutch have any historical claims to the region
>but they controlled the area for like a decade
fuck off. if anything it belongs to germany
The Dutch do have a historical claim. Their revolt wasn't some revolution devoid of legitimacy and continuity, it was the revolt of the States General, the parliament for all the Seventeen Provinces that had existed since mid 15th century and continues to exist to this day in the north.
the dutch have as much historical claim to belgium as belgium has to the netherlands
it's retarded
Belgium and all its national institutions only traces back to 1830, so no they don't.
so we're playing the semantics game eh
It's not semantics. The Dutch revolt was a war between the parliament and the monarchy of the Netherlands, in the end the parliament got the north and the monarchy the south, but since then the Habsburg monarchy lost the south and therefore the south no longer has continuity with the pre-revolt Netherlands.
so how does a war of succession supposedly gives you a claim over a region you never ruled over?
Well, while under Spanish rule, while the whole province was up in arms at one point, the southern Netherlands remained loyal to the crown while the northern Netherlands didn't.