It's all about orgone energy or equivalent concepts (Vril etc.).
The authors literally pulled names and concepts from orgone theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone
>Orgone was seen as a massless, omnipresent substance, similar to luminiferous aether, but more closely associated with living energy than with inert matter. It could allegedly coalesce to create organization on all scales, from the smallest microscopic units—called "bions" in orgone theory—to macroscopic structures like organisms, clouds, or even galaxies.
Orgone is literally called "spiral energy" or defined as "screw-shaped" in some sources.
For what concerns FFVII, the "cloudbuster" was a machine built by Willy Ley (the one who came up with the Ley-Lines concept) as an attempt to control weather.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbuster
The Anime world is full of people into esoterism at a level that is mind-blowing.
Sorry I got it wrong, It's directly the creator of the orgone concept (a israelite named Wilhelm Reich) who created the cloudbuster, Willy Ley had just took part to discussions with Reich.
I need to sleep a bit or I'll mix up concepts.
You can see this as purely biological dynamics (orgone). But also, you might check some broader philosophies, form what's called the spiritual evolutives.
I recommend you to check Teilhard de Chardin (christian), Sri Aurobindo (hinduist), and Ken Wilber (buddhism)
I will look into this, thank you, for context I will tell you about who I am, I'm writing a text detailing my /x/ related research if it can interest someone:
My family has always been physically ill. I initially assumed a genetic origin for this illness, but I’m starting to expore more… possibilities, without going into the supernatural beliefs usually adopted by my mother and uncle which were brainwashed by the catholic church into believing it was the work of the devil, which I always believed to be pure schizophrenia. Let’s try to keep this scientific without losing that beautiful openness-to-experience necessary for any discovery.
I’m very interested in the concept of orgone theory, some schizos discuss it in a pseudo-scientific way, but I feel there’s some bottom of truth in it.
Extreme mental exertion like the one I’ve become accustomed to as a student of science / engineering and later obsessive researcher in the darkest sides of the internet, affects the physical body. Mind and body are interconnected, and this is pretty easy to believe also from a medical point of view.
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Well, there' are a lot of things that effect health. Let's try to organize it.
Physical:
-Genetics.
-Epigenetics and gene modulation as a function of the environment (including mental stressors).
-Nutrition
-Illnesses (virus, bacteria, fungus)
-Radiation (electromagnetic, gamma, etc)
Mental:
-Stress
-Trauma
-Life scripts (Transactional Analysis): How people introyect "ways of behaving or thinking" from other people. Introyect, as in, it's not an elaborated, integrated, digested, conscious decision, but rather an automatic / reflex process that cannot be questioned. It's similar to OCD in expression. For example: Asian child who MUST become a doctor/engineer, or will be seen as a failure by their parents.
-Another kind of life scripts, more on the lines of Life Purposes. Alejandro Jodorowsky and others talk about this. It's when people have kids as a solution to a problem, and offload the role of solving the problem into the kid as his life purpose.
For example: Have a kid so they can be the masculine figure the father couldn't be. Have a daughter because of unresolved sexual tension of the parents. Have a kid that "WILL BE SMART AND MAKE US RICH" to cope with their's parent's inferiority complex around their social group. And so on.
Obviously these life scripts need to be dismantled, or else the person will only exist as an extension of their parents, an object of trauma lacking self-determination.
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keep in mind of your personal case, that life scripts and psychological games (Berne) may lead your family for example to acquire a role of "Victim", and this expressing itself through illness.
([victim] Illness -> needs attention/care [rescuer] and implies a [prosecutor] who can be fate, society, god, etc )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle
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thank you, but just know that me
and him
are two different posters.
This post,
and
are all by me. I'm just going through all the possibilities.
Now let's move on to /x/ possibilities:
-Family curse. Do some research on your family tree, see if anything looks strange on your family's life experiences and stories. Also look on the history of the place you live in (I've seen situations where some family is exceptionally tragic and their house is built on top of indian burial grounds, for example). Move someone else if you suspect this.
This would also help if atmospheric factors are contributing or causing the illnesses in your family, like air quality.
-Spirits. If you suspect this, try at least to learn some basic banishing and/or exorcising techniques from old traditions.
-Some kind of energy. Here you could consider orgone. Try researching it, I'm not too into it but I remember people used to make orgone crystals and such). Other related subjects can be qi circulation, feng shui, chakras etc.
So as a summary, and this applies to anyone reading this: Always try to identify the nature of the problem first.
Is it medical? psychological? are the affected people running a life script, an automated role? anything in the family tree or place has some shady story? any paranormal activity? does it happen in a certain location more than in other places (long trips, holidays abroad etc)? do these people have a "sickly vibe/aura"? and so on.
And always use the matching tools for the matching problems.
you like plasma physics?
it's interesting but also filled with much schizophrenia, difficult to separate useful information from delusion.
also sorry Willy Ley has nothing to do with the Ley-Lines, I didn't sleep for 32 hours to stimulate my intuitive instinct and induce a dream-like state so I tend to mix some concepts together.
>was a machine built by Willy Ley (the one who came up with the Ley-Lines concept)
if willy ley came up with ley lines how come leyden (where dose a ley line sleep? in its den silly) jars are hundreds of years older?
sorry, as I say here
this Ley guy has nothing to do with the Ley-Lines, I'm trying an experimental technique on myself to boost intuition but it has as side-effect the mixup of words and concepts, which is easily fixed though.
sall good bro i ballzup so many of my first draft posts then refine them after the fact. of topical relevance, look into leyden jars and the plasma physics of birkeland currents. theres actually 2 spirals intermingled, one giving one taking, they twist together into chains, every 'body' has one. (why do ya spose this pic only has one?)
very interesting
Also some advice:
-You come from an engineering background. I know the type, because I've studied engineering too (along with other things). Your main problems you could face are "I must excel", "pride", "stubborness", and obsession. Periodically do some self-analysis about these topics to see if you are falling into a biased psyche.
-Savior life script: To have a goal of alleviating your family's issues is commendable. To follow Heroic Archetypes is commendable. But always check that you aren't falling prey to these forces to the point you became a puppet of them. Always keep a degree of healthy self-interest and healthy detachment.
>Your main problems you could face are "I must excel", "pride", "stubborness", and obsession. Periodically do some self-analysis about these topics to see if you are falling into a biased psyche.
absolutely correct, you're 100% right on this.
amazing, I will get some sleep and then read again everything you wrote.
Glad to help. I must leave now.
Feel free to check the philosophers I suggested, keep in mind the problem-solving checklist, and the advice on your personality biases.
>Orgone is literally called "spiral energy" or defined as "screw-shaped" in some sources.
kinda like uzumaki symbol in naruto, "rasengan" attack in naruto, boruto's "earth's spiral energy" attack uzuhiko rasengan (post time skip boruto attack), and possibly the earth rotations in one piece / sanjis eyebrows spiral
the semen retention thread had some stuff relating to orgone
this seems to tie nicely with this stuff too https://spellsoftruth.blog/2019/12/16/introduction-to-nen-miracles-super-powers-and-magic-part-1/ , especially the ken wheeler thing