Good, I hate druggies and zoomers who use this shit. Vaping is literally the most evil thing to come out of big tobacco companies.
There is no technology that came out in the 21st century worse than vaping and I am glad my country is banning it.
Good, I hate druggies and zoomers who use this shit.
The most evil thing they did was fill cigarettes with industrial toxins once the majority of the public became smokers.
source????
They had shit to cigarettes, but tobacco burning will always ALWAYS turn into tar.
add*
Vaping is old news now. Everyone does edibles now that it's super easy to make delta and HHC stuff. There's no smell, super discreet to use since it can be added to food or drinks, and gets you higher than vapes if you don't control your dosage.
I remember the first time I did a yogurt with hash, biggest high I ever had.
All recreational drug use should be made illegal and, with emerging technology, impossible.
why?
All drugs, especially psychoactive ones, should only be used under a heavily-regimented system of medical necessity. The medical necessity of ethanol is for external infections, not internal consumption, for example.
yes, but WHY?
Islam
The culling of vice will be a boon for society. Your normalized caffeine addiction ("Wake up and smell the coffee") does not make you more productive, it only makes you unable to function without it.
Ignore
, I'm not speaking from any religious perspective.
people can't be trusted to make decisions for themselves but others can't be trusted to make decisions for others either. drugs will literally never be eradicated and the legalisation of their use would not only give our population, specifically segments of it that cause mire trouble than others, a much needed decline through more overdoses and other drug related deaths that would also free up money to be used elsewhere due to no longer needing entire institutions like the DEA or your countries equivalent. possibly even generate money through the kind of tax you'd see on substances similar to marijuana in the US.
Did you miss the "with emerging technology" part?
no emerging technology will stop drug use people will simply find workarounds if there even is ever a technology that could somehow completely eradicate its usage. I cannot think of such a technology, can you?
Buddy you need drugs, specifically a first generation antipsychotic such as Halipridol and a mood stabilizer such as lithium
That's not what my doctor says.
>first generation antipsychotic
what's the difference with the generations that came after?
i don't know what the difference is but as someone who has taken both i can tell you i had much worse side effects from 2nd generation, i don't have any side effects since switching to 1st generation.
OK dad
It's telling that this is your response.
Not really. What is telling is you whining about vice on LULZ of all places
you're doing it again you nagger you're arguing with children. I see you. stop it.
You should be fucking shot in the head you fascist fuck.
Who do you think you are? You are a fucking loser on LULZ wanting to see other people suffer because you have nothing.
If there was a way to post your address and info I would in a heartbeat just so people could mob you.
Kys please we have an over population problem.
>le heckin fascist
Go shoot him in the head yourself, that is if you're even allowed to own a gun, homosexual
Outsourcing violence to the mob or state, so libertine
Kek Awe you got triggered little weak incel, stfu and go back to watching only fans cuck.
Why are you both responding to him as if he's me?
I have quite a few guns pussy as I still live in a semi free country. You on the other hand are going to be begging for someone like me to protect your sorry ass when the shit hits the fan.
Enjoy what life you have now Troon as you don’t have much time left.
>you fascist fuck
A fascist imagines himself in a position of Power. I do not.
>Who do you think you are? You are a fucking loser on LULZ
I love when questions are answered for me. I mean it without sarcasm this time, because you did it accurately.
Because dis nigga cant get pussy lmao
Are you happy with yourself?
Yeah.
>Are you happy with yourself
Why do you sound like my mom when she is upset?
You're happy with being unable to confront arguments and sounding like an adolescent?
he literally is an adolescent you retard that's who you argue with when you respond to posts like that. you're an adult arguing with a retarded child.
What argument you're just on a power trip because DRUGS BAD
>What argument
>you're just on a power trip
How? I have no power over you.
>Not really
Yes, really. You associate the concept of being productive with being chastised by a parental figure, because you were only ever annoyed by what they had to say without seeing the value in it. Your prolonged adolescence is hardly uncommon, and equally difficult to recognize.
That's pretty telling about you actually
That's not an argument though just your opinion
Interesting. I'm assuming this is because you feel humans cannot be trusted to determine how they want to feel and how to reach said state? I'm just curious as I have the complete opposite view. I feel that all substances should be legalized and allow people to make their own choices. Yes, some people will make bad choices. Others will make good choices. But the point is, it's their choice. Not some asshole lording their views over us as peasants who pay their wages and give them reasons to live.
not him, but i mostly agree with you, where i'd say we should keep restrictions is when the safety of others is a proven concern
for example driving while under influence, on private property sure go ahead, but on public roads with other people? definitely not
otherwise sure, why would i give a fuck if my neighbour smokes some cones on the weekends to relax? not my business or concern
Dude it's weed/nicotine. These are the least hardcore drugs. You stop feeling the effects within minutes/hours depending on your tolerance. It's not like you're shooting up heroin.
>These are the least hardcore drugs
I'm waiting for your point.
>no emerging technology will stop drug use
Tell that to China.
>I cannot think of such a technology
I can. It's being implemented right now, just for a different purpose. Give it time.
Drugs are bad because people die from overdose.
It's impossible to overdose on weed or nicotine.
>It's impossible to overdose
You have no idea what my argument is. And no, I'm not going to repeat myself.
What is your argument then? That people aren't allowed to have choice?
It's actually easy to overdose on nicotene kek it's quite poisonous, probably not from vaping but it is if you swallow some
China still has drug use, they simply don't report on it and many other crimes for propaganda purposes. Society is heading in the opposite direction if anything, the US has already legalised marijuana usage and it would not surprise me if more were to follow in the next 50 years or so. Legal highs have been made for as long as anyone can remember to loophole through the legal system and create substances that are slightly chemically different from their counterparts but still have roughly the same effects. No country is, or ever will be, free of drug use. Even in North Korea, probably one of the most locked down countries in the world, it still has some drug use.
Yes, China and North Korea both have ethanol, caffeine and nicotine. Their surveillance apparatus makes anything else exceedingly difficult to find.
That's cute.
>The culling of vice will be a boon for society. Your normalized caffeine addiction ("Wake up and smell the coffee") does not make you more productive, it only makes you unable to function without it.
Can anyone else describe what this drug induced mess is?
>this drug induced mess
It's called a society of normalized addiction.
They have much more than nicotine and ethanol, meth, ketamine, ecstasy etc. are all present in China along with the obligatory marijuana despite the harsh consequences for drug use. it is a deterrent, but not enough to stop its use entirely. China is also a very poorly functioning society with terribly built infrastructure, significantly higher mortality rates, poverty and food shortages compared to any Western country with more lenient drug policies.
You are a fucking retard, I can go right now and order some research chemicals from a chinese supplier thats "Not for human consumption" and see colours for 36 hours. Out of respect for your fellow man, please don't ever share your opinion again.
Here's just an example in pic related
Link explaining what it does
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/AL-LAD
I guess we'll maybe see recreational shrooms/LSD operated a little bit like hash bars (as in you can buy and consume legally on the premises, but not outside), but a little more long-stay cause that shit lasts hours (imagine this, LSD-spas), and medical ketamine from depression, but I think that's gonna be it. I doubt we'll see legal coke/crack/heroin cause that's the shit that ruins your life. If weed ruins your life, you already were fucked to begin with.
All recreational drug use should be made legal. and with emerging technology, more accessible.
You know that OPs pic refers to vaping as in nicotine, not THC? Maybe eat less of that shit, your brain is already rotting itself away.
Smoke shops that sell vapes sell nicotine and THC tardo. They ban nicotine they switch to THC
I don't see that, maybe for some retarded teenagers. It's really bad when kids/teenagers start smoking by vaping with flavours but imo it's quite good to quit smoking with it.
Not that it's super healthy but surely it's better than inhaling burnt shit.
>and gets you higher than vapes if you don't control your dosage.
I always thought vape was better, because it was the fastest way to get it into your bloodstream?
How high a dosage are we talking about?
> smoking vs edibles
edibles are usually way too strong. it's like smoking 20 bongs at once but an hour later it actually smashes you in the face, in a good way.
I've never felt an edible high. I went by increments, started with a 10mg, then next time twice that, then 50mg, 100mg, 200mg.I did a 1000mg candy the final and I was stone cold sober. I read about some people having an enzyme in their stomach that destroys cannabinoids so they never reach the bloodstream. I guess it might be that. I still get high when I smoke/vape, but edibles don't do shit
Dosage is going to vary on your tolerance and body weight. A skinny person who barely smokes is going to get high as shit off 25mg while a fat guy who smokes daily is not gonna feel shit unless he eats 250mg.
If you want to maximize your high then edibles are best. Takes much longer to prepare than puffing but it's worth the effort. A giant weed cookie can last you weeks just by nibbling on it.
oh shit I though we were talking about CBD here. I live in a country where CBD is legal, but THC is not.
Does edibles being better/stronger than vapes still apply to CBD?
What country? THC could be illegal but HHC isn't which is the same thing.
>What country?
UK
>THC could be illegal but HHC isn't which is the same thing.
But I'm always suspicious about synthetic cannabinboids like Delta-8 and HHC. They seem to take compounds that are present only in trace amounts in buds and then synthesise them in ridiculous amounts.
All "legal highs" were banned in the UK years ago because a shit tonne of people were doing K2 and going insane
HHC and Delta 8 are produced from CBD. They're not harmful even in great amounts. They're just isolated components. Under current UK law there's no ban on CBD or CBD related products. THC is strictly legal as in the raw flower. HHC, Delta 8, and CBD can be taken in ways beyond just inhaling the bud as you're aware by now and that's how UK and US shops bypass the law.
THC is strictly illegal*
CBD is limited to specific quantities in the UK, anything beyond a relatively low CBD quantity, I forget how much, but its not much, is still banned.
>HHC and Delta 8 are produced from CBD. They're not harmful even in great amounts.
I don't want to end up completely fucked up like those guys on spice though. Like
said, when referring to K2/spice. I don't want to end up like pic related.
K2 and spice are synthesized from non synthetic elements to begin with. CBD is naturally occuring and these products are derived from CBD. To ban them means to ban CBD.
Appeal to nature fallacy
Incorrect. Certain tree sap may be good for you like maple but others are toxic. Know the difference and it's safe. It can also be applied to CBD.
Touché
>K2 and spice are synthesized from non synthetic elements to begin with. CBD is naturally occuring and these products are derived from CBD.
Ah right. This makes complete sense.
Put it this way the people making K2 and spice aren't sending their products to be certified by analysis reports while CBD products are. Guess why.
It's like the popcorn lung scare with vaping just don't buy from sketchy brands, sketchy stores, or dark web that were cut with other dangerous shit. If they're legit they have a verifiable lab paper.
HHC and delta 8 are both illegal the legal high laws cover all substances that can have a psychoactive effect
When you smoke CBD it hits you all at once to your brain and goes away faster. When you eat CBD it gradually releases throughout your blood so you feel the effects longer. With smoking or eating it's always gonna depend on how much you are taking.
>how much you are taking
I know it's a how long is a piece of string question.
But how much CBD should I be eating?
That depends on (You). Your tolerance, weight, height, what you had before you eat.
The only limit as far as I know on CBD is not on the CBD itself but you can't have more than 1mg of THC in your CBD. This is easily bypassed with HHC/Delta 8 methods as you're isolating the components.
Not being able to control dosages consistently makes edibles less convenient objectively speaking. Dry-herb vaping would be most optimal to getting the fuller spectrum of effects.
If you make it yourself as a noob it's hard to dose. But if you buy from store or online they have the mg labeled exactly.
Really with you were right because while I fucking hate smokers and vapers, I don't care one bit that they're getting high off of their drugs. I just don't want to have to smell it. Edibles is a good way for them to get the hit they want without bothering anyone other than perhaps with dorky behavior. But for too many, smoking and vaping is a ritual and for others, being an obnoxious asshole is part of the fun.
Uhhh if you feel the need to be discrete about your habits, they're probably not good for you.
>but scrolling on your phone is okay!
What are some non-recreational uses of vaping?
ok autistic robot, make sure the jocks from gym class don't give you a wedgie.
>gym class
Said the quiet part out loud already, I see.
>Vaping is literally the most evil thing to come out of big tobacco companies
Kek what they literally sell tobacco and intentionally grow it in a way where the plant collects polonium 210 and lead 210 even though they know how to prevent it from doing so. that builds up in lungs releasing radiation
Alcohol has been proven to cause more damage than vaping for sometime now yet Chinese people drink to death but aren't allowed to smoke a dub.
Why they are banning it?
because certain businesses were selling them to children.
>because certain businesses were selling them to children.
They will go to cigarettes
No store ever directly sells to children. What most likely happens is:
>kids ask adult outside the store to buy for them (usually friend or relative)
>they do
>???
>profit&drugs
>No store ever directly sells to children
there were many that were selling to children, which is why they're already banned in several states, but the main reason is tax. the government makes less tax (or none) from vapes.
people vaped because it was cheaper than cigarettes.
>there were many that were selling to children
No store literally does this directly. There are cameras everywhere. Social media too. If kids get drugs it's through a middleman. If you weren't an autistic kid in school you seen this in high school. Kids want weed and they ask the dealer not go to dope shop.
Vaping does make you feel the effects faster but it goes away faster. Consuming edibles breaks down the THC into a new science formula and it's a lot more intense.
>There are cameras everywhere
lmao. when has that stopped anyone, homosexual? you need to cope harder. vapes are over in australia and it's because of tax and criminal homosexuals. but the criminal homosexuals ruined it for everyone.
any boss would fire their employee for not following the one fucking rule: dont sell under 18+ without proof of id.
Doesn't matter if it's smoke shop, liquor store, porn store, whatever.
do people unironically consume "recreational drugs" after their mid twenties, if at all?
Ask your mom who swallows her prescription pills that puts her in the trance.
They're called caffeine, nicotine, and ethanol.
none of that is necessary
You asked for recreational drugs, used by people after their mid twenties. You didn't ask for necessary.
>China is also a very poorly functioning society
And that's how the other stuff slips through the cracks. See the number of successful defections from North Korea for a better idea of what I'm talking about.
The point is its a poorly functioning society due to its decisions. I'm not saying the legality of drugs there has an impact on whether their society functions better or not necessarily. Rather the deterrents used and the methods needed to be able to punish drug users the amount they do in the first place are one of many larger issues, something that takes time and money. That time and money is taken away from turning them into a more functioning society with better infrastructure, healthcare, etc. Not to say the western world is perfect, but it is certainly doing a whole lot better than China with much fewer policies that invade privacy to that extent, resulting in a myriad of benefits and improvements that you simply will not see in China. North Korea also has the same problem here.
The corruption is the problem. People in China are bribed with cigarettes, so of course they'll let other drugs pass. Their surveillance state and Social Credit Scores have the ability to halt drug use in its tracks, their Government is just compromised on that front. It's similar to how to "War" on Drugs was lost before it was even declared, with the ratification of the 21st amendment.
People in China would be bribed with anything else if drugs were made legal tomorrow there. The corruption is absolutely a big problem but the amount of resources needed to run an actual police state is going to take away from other services that could make your country better. There are finite resources, people and time to dedicated towards these things and surveilling your citizens to that extent is only going to demoralise them to the extent corruption becomes that big of a problem in the first place. If they completely turner around and got rid of social credit, the internment camps etc. Corruption would drop significantly, more effort would be put into the country and it would overall become a better place to live, albeit not without its problems either way. The things needed to even try to entirely ban drugs and make their usage impossible would only be possible with mandatory disenfranchisement of 99% of the population, which would result in the demoralisation and therefore life-support levels of society functioning we see in places like China and NK.
caffeine, in powdered form (anhydrous caffeine), is illegal to sell in Australia
You're meant to measure caffeine powder with a milligram scale but a couple of years ago, some guy in Queensland just took a teaspoon sized scoop of the stuff lol, put it in a milkshake, and OD'd. So the government just freaked out and made it illegal. No more cheap caffeine powder on ebay for me.
Australia is becoming a full blown anarcho-tyrannical state. I think all multicultural countries eventually end up in the same place. This is a country where they ban vaping in the name of public safety but allow judges to give african immigrants with multiple sex offenses minimal sentences or in some cases suspended sentences. Some of these blacks have 10+ offenses on their record and they're still getting suspended sentences, it's obscene.
But don't brag, it's coming going to become more and more common in America too. They just gave HandsomeTruth in Florida a 30 day sentence for distributing flyers, which they categorized as littering, and because there was israelite-critical stuff on the flyers, it became 'hate littering'. They've got laws on the books now in America where you get a longer prison sentence for putting up a banner then you do for raping a woman
>anarcho-tyrannical
Rule by eleutheromaniacs, I know.
ban tiktok instead. I literally saw this zoomer smash his head into a street lamp because he was staring at tiktok while walking
>tiktok as zoomer population control
that's fucking based, make boomers get into tiktok too
I'm the most anti-drug person on the planet. ALL drugs should be illegal, including but not limited to nicotine, cigarettes, weed, caffeine, and alcohol. Anyone caught using should be arrested and given 25 years in prison with no parole. Manufacturing gets you 50 years in prison with no parole. Selling gets you 35 years in prison with no parole.
Why are anti drug people always ChatGPT AI sounding bots like DARE people?
Never used AI as it's israelite controlled and globohomo as fuck. DARE people aren't as extreme as me. Stop being a fucking drug addict.
Stop being a fucking loser trying to control others cuckold. Mind your own fucking business, btw you are literally doing the israelites work with your anti drug fascism.
So basically you are worse than any kike out there. Good job anon, hopefully you are triple vaxxed so you can’t breed and will die soon anyway.
Not like any girl would ever touch you.
trump lost
they forced the clotjab and put you in concentration camps. now you cant even inhale whatever you want in your fuckin body. ausland is the china of the west, but worst because at least china is honest about their totalitarism.
Vaping is based and trad and smoking cigarettes is based and trad.
i smoke so hard and i wont stop till i die
>Australia
Who gives a fuck? Don't they ban something and take away your freedoms every week? No one cares about Australians and I hope China turns the entire continent into a solar farm.
Wait e cigarettes are not druggies, it's weed not legal in dingoland?
cigarettes were the reason people weren't fat
Weed smokers are among the most annoying fucks. I hope it’s banned
Not as annoying as alcoholics
>DUDE IM SO WASTED
>*THROWS UP ON YOUR FACE*
>HELL YEAH
>*BLURRY VISION AND PHYSICALLY STUMBLING*
>EVERYTHING IS BETTER WHILE DRUNK
>*MERGES WITHOUT LOOKING IN A FORD*
Will they be banning regular cigarettes as well, or does big tobacco money smell too good?
What do you think? Cig companies are the ones fighting against vaping because it's hurting their profits.
Why don't they just invest in vaping?
They do to sabotage it.
Growing plants is infinitely more profitable than creating these devices with batteries, heaters, tanks and the liquid that goes with it.
>They do to sabotage it.
Wouldn't they just... do it?
>Growing plants is infinitely more profitable than creating these devices
Why not both?
(Me)
>Why not both?
Or why not sell vape juice as well as tobacco?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smoking_bans_in_Australia
>VAPING BAD BECAUSE DRUG
>but give me my dopamine hits in the form of (You)s
>recreational use
Is there another use?
Medical, especially for asthma attacks.
Legalize ALL drugs worldwide. Everyone should be able to buy lethal doses of fentanyl and larp as Floyd. Whenever they please.
I have never even smoked a cigarette, I just hate regulations that much. FUCK OFF with your tens of thousands articles and laws micromanaging every aspect of everyone's life. I hate overreaching governments so fucking much.
There should be a hard limit on how many laws you can have like lines of code in suckless software, exept when any government exceeds it, every homosexual politician gets dragged into the street, hanged by the feet and beaten like a fucking pinata.
>cuck me harder daddy
You are a fascist cunt OP and will only suffer for taking a basic right away from people. Who the fuck are you to decide what someone else does in their free time.
Funny thing when they ban vidya your little incel homosexual ass is going to cry and say whaaa why????
This is how is starts you dumb fucking Australian peasant.
why are aussies like this?
is it the penal colony pedigree?