Give me ONE (1) valid and convincing reason to move away from Win10 LTSC IoT to Linux.
Tell me ONE (1) thing I can do on Linux that I can't just do on Win10 either, and much more efficiently too.
Give me ONE (1) valid and convincing reason to move away from Win10 LTSC IoT to Linux.
Give me ONE (1) valid and convincing reason to move away from Win10 LTSC IoT to Linux.
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My OS just works and doesn't pester me every few days to updoot and reboot. I own my hardware and can use it however I want. I can deploy my OS to any vm or container without needing any serial number or license bullshit. I don't need a microsoft account and don't need to give away any personal information. I know my children carry my genes.
>OP asks specifically about LTSC
>gets blasted with shitty strawmen
Do fretards really?
Yes. Windows lost me as a customer years ago. If you want me back you have get down on your knees and earn it.
>Retard thinks ltsc stops Microsoft from data mining them
Ltsc protects you from spying as much as I am a Nigerian prince. Actually since you are retarded.... I'm a Nigerian prince. I want to give you 1 million dollars. Please send me your social security number, bank account and routing number, and house address with first and last name including any previous last names. Thank you.
Then why aren't fortune 500 companies suing them for data theft? Because they could.
They're the buyers of the collected data. That would be an interesting twist of strategy for them to sue MS. Very dystopian suggestion.
They don't buy it, they collect it into their own pee jar themselves using microsoft as the funnel. Then they pay microsoft to blast targeted ads pooping and peeing everywhere on windows users when possible by following them online.
>thinly veiled wintranny bait thread
OP is a bigger homosexual than usual.
Not being assaulted with ads and propaganda simply by turning your pc on should be a pretty convincing reason
GPU pass thru vm. Not that most people would need it, but it's all I can think of. If you want to do that on windows host it has to be windows server IIRC.
GPGPU with slurping Jensen's cock.
Windows Server can do it, but desktop Windows can do a GPU time sharing thing that's actually better, it just only works with Windows guests.
there are no reasons. linux fails to meet the 2 most important points of tech and engineering tools: easy to use & straight to the point
This. If freetards could get over their pride for 5 goddamn minutes and make Linux actually usable on the desktop, Windows would have ceased to exist back when Vista was released. Instead it’s constant bickering and infighting and forking shit for no goddamn reason. And you still need the terminal in 2023, something I’m not a fan of. They blame the user instead of their own shortcomings. The arrogance they exude is enough to gag an itoddler. It’s pathetic.
>if only some central authority could idiot proof things even further
The problem is that this just brings you back to square one. Canonical is doing that with ubuntu, trying to standardize shit, but cant help themselves with shit like making their ads a part of the core package. Nowhere as egregious as MS/Apple yet, but it doesnt take a seer to see where this is going.
On some level, making your own stuff is always gonna be harder than paying someone to make it for you. But you will have all the control. This is the fundamental dynamic here, regardless of pride/elitism.
You can pay for convience and run the risk of getting fucked over later or put in the work and be free (both in beer/freedom) later.
It’s this mindset that’s the reason Linux constantly fails. It’s not that freedom is bad, it’s that you’re so scared of anything resembling a usable experience, that you’ll kill or cancel a project before it has a chance to make a difference. You’re pathetic.
Ads are bad. Spying and selling data is inexcusable. I’m not arguing this. What i am arguing is that we need basically something like kde plasma to become the norm on Linux instead of gnome. By over simplification you’ve rendered Linux useless. You need to finish the job you’ve started but you won’t because you’d rather make 20 more useless distributions that all do essentially the same task but some under the hood thing like systemd bugs you so you waste all your talent pissing into the wind instead of making an application worth selling. You could do so much but you’d rather mock others work and fork things and be useless at doing anything worthy of just basic shit.
opensource can be good e.g. blender
but you need a foundation or an organization behind it.
Or, instead of making that 10th distro, use the time to fix the problems with the first by making utilities. Windows is the best, because of its utilities. By itself it sucks, but there’s so many little programs to do whatever, that it becomes irreplaceable. I don’t need an entire operating system to accomplish a simple task that an app can do anon.
blender isnt good, it's free and only gained popularity after Autodesk started checking validity of student licence.
>It’s this mindset that’s the reason Linux constantly fails.
The reason Linux failed to gain traction beyond server operating systems until recently is lack of money. It's really that simple. Why do you think KDE plasma improved so much? Valve threw money at the German devs. Why do you think Fedora improved somewhat? Because IBM acquired Red Hat Enterprises. Funny thing, I don't see much shilling of Fedora OS any more after the acquisition in 2019.
Sure but money can’t fix everything. You clamour on about muh freedoms but nobody bothered to fix Linux unless they’re paid? Sounds counter productive to your argument, don’t ya think?
>You clamour on about muh freedoms but nobody bothered to fix Linux unless they’re paid?
Anon, you're not very American, are you? Freedom must be exported, but not imported into the country. Bad for business. It's the duality of the thing. Call it hypocrisy, but this is the way of the world. You think those servers on wall street are running windows? I bet you the linux sysadmins get paid a nice commission to maintain it. Then you have such things as DaVinci Resolve, a Hollywood standard software with a free multiplat version, but the paid version is also available for linux which is again, industry standard for them. Aforementioned software came out for macos and linux before it was ported to windows.
Most large companies + governments runs on Windows. If shit goes tits up they can hold Microsoft accountable. Microsoft's infrastructure is vital to the world and they are pretty good at what they do. If they disappeared tomorrow then the world would regress 50 years in terms of tech. Microsoft along with other large companies like Blackrock, JPM etc are essentially arms of the US govt as it stands. Desktop OS's are pretty much a toy/test bed for MS at this point.
Not the point.
The point is concern trolls are disingenuous and have no point.
The big linux desktops are usable and preferred for the people who care. The market is large given the factors against them. There are no feature improvements that could shift market share at this point. It's entirely about money and inertia/ sales connections.
Also this explanation is for newfags who might be curious, not shills and coping wincucks obsessed with Linux despite not ever using it.
>kde plasma to become the norm on Linux instead of gnome.
you lost me right there when you started spouting retarded shit again
You can’t even use desktop icons on gnome without some hacky workaround. The devs are against it. Sorry but we need something other than gnome.
This is false.
Use desktop icons on fedora without a hack aka gnome tweak tool. Go ahead I’ll wait.
I have desktop icons on ubuntu and linux lite. No hacky work-arounds, none. They were there from install. Linux lite is installed on a 2008 dell studio 1737, making it entirely usable/useful again whereas with windows the hardware was obsolete.
The hacks were applied by canonical not the gnome foundation. They’re about to disappear when gnome 44 is released.
Desktop icons at install. I'm reporting what I have on Ubuntu and Linux Lite without hacks, tweaks nor extensions. Those 2 distros definitely have desktop icons. I have no knowledge of the future. The statement is false.
>smart people make free thing for smart people "come join us!"
>smart people join and make thing better
>thing becomes so popular that dumb people, who won't ever contribute, hear about it
>"why don't you accommodate dumb people???!!!?!"
Many such cases.
And this is why even itoddlers find you insufferable. You’re worse than useless. You’re so blind to the fact though because of your own pride and arrogance that you fail to see why Linux is utter trash. You use it as this pointless meter of iq when in reality, you’re just proving that you’re just more willing to put up with bullshit than I have patience for. Wanna know how I know I’m smarter than you are? I get the job done in 1/100th the time and don’t waste my life worrying about Microsoft having my data because i don’t care if it means that i get to pay my bills. Not everyone can live off the government.
ah ok you got filtered. wasn't sure at first but now i am 100% you're a butthurt
>not showing real OS market share
Linux at 45%.
What? No! Android doesn't count! It's Google! It's not linux! It's not fREEEEEEEEEE
It's not GNU/Linux, it's just Linux or Android/Google + Linux
The topic is linux, not gnu/linux.
Yes, 45% of devices across all markets use linux.
So you should install chrome os flex, it runs all android apps. Or run android x86. Don’t bother with useless gnu distributions. They’re sub par.
... Linuxsisters what the fuck ? I thought every server in existence was using linux because it is great ? We are fucked in desktop space but I thought we were dominating power in server space ? I need to do some rust coding to cope.
No. Do whatever dumb fuck thing you want to do.
>I only suck dick. I never swallow. Give me a reason to stop sucking cock entirely?
poor freetards, they couldn't do it after all
Just stay on Windows. You are not needed over here.
It used to be deep learning but now windows is capable too.
So for me I see no reason to use linux as host os anymore.
Have a functioning terminal.
How do people actually get stuff done on windows? I've used cygwin extensively but that setup is garbage when compared to even the shittiest console on linux.
Going to bite.
>Give me ONE (1) valid and convincing reason to move away from Win10 LTSC IoT to Linux.
You don't need Windows Defender on Linux. No need for an anti-virus substitute either, not even when running potentially malware'd japanese cartoon exes of porn games or fitgirl exes. Meanwhile on Windows you run the risk of defender bricking your system or causing problems, among other malfunctions.
>Tell me ONE (1) thing I can do on Linux that I can't just do on Win10 either, and much more efficiently too.
Update methods. You can choose not to update, ever. But if you choose to do so, you can set it up however you want. You can even do offline updates. Or even downgrade updates to previous versions. The freedom to choose > being herded to choose.
Arguably you don’t need it on Windows anymore either. It’s a relic of the past.
>Arguably you don’t need it on Windows anymore either.
If Microsoft deemed it unnecessary they wouldn't argue about removing or keeping it. They would just remove defender. But when you think again about mainstream society making up most of windows users, defender is necessary, M$ at least somewhat understand how retarded their consumers can be downloading under-the-hood-of-a-muslim-girl.avi.exe. Goat fuckers shouldn't be anywhere near a computer, but it's 2023 and you don't want a durka durka bombing headquarters.
Those who are denigrated and looked down upon as freetards at least know they have the brains to make choices and stay away from the wide path of user-created vulnerabilities and low level exploits/social engineering.
Being schizophrenic doesn’t make you automatically smarter. You personally might be smarter but most Linux users are insufferable mentally handicapped pedos. They’re used to being scared all of the time. They’re naturally untrusting because they’re untrustworthy. Then there’s the ones who use it as a power trip or treat it like a religion. The amount of “normal” Linux users I’ve met, i can count on one hand. They tend to use it as a tool for some project rather than a Windows replacement. Which is not the thing people tend to mean when they say “the year of gnu linux”. I know i can’t just judge an os by its users, but it is something to take account of. Especially when people use the word “community” as an argument. Community is what i refer to when i call it a religion.
But when your entire utility is eclipsed by simply being too cumbersome to use consistently even by me an engineer, or other professionals who are very ocd and anal about things, maybe it’s time to evaluate some things.
Or don’t and Linux will fall further into obscurity as the european union makes free software illegal because only the worst of humanity uses it as a tool of destruction instead of a tool to build.
Quite wrong, and it's terrible to make assumptions by smearing ever linux user as a pedo. I'm sure the wall street fat cats would take issue to the label, or don't care about you at all. It's a sign of the times that you believe all your life should be on public display or heh, "friends only", when at the start of the internet children were told never to trust strangers online and never to reveal your identity. Being anonymous and pseudonymous was traditional. Sadly this culture has been lost thanks to the arrival of mobile phones and its culture. You can only find it struggling to exist in certain places of the internet, such as in here. If you truly believed in what you posted, you would post your personal information right now and believe no one would be malicious to you. And if you truly believed what you practiced, you wouldn't even be posting in here, because this place should be anathema to you, fellow hypocrite.
Again, i never posed to be against privacy. I just said, Linux needs to be usable by the masses. If you took a second to understand what I said, you’d know that. Proof that you’re not that smart. I’d say you have an iq of 160. Good enough to be a Walmart manager at best. The issue with Linux is simply that it’s way too hard to use. It’s annoying and painfully obvious to anyone who isn’t scared of their own shadow. If you used modern windows you’d know what I’m talking about. Linux needs to stop relying on the terminal to do basic tasks. Simple as. It needs a user interface to operate it that’s both straight forward, wysiwyg instead of having 9000 hidden use flags you need to be aware of to get the most out of it. There’s no discovery. There’s no flow of information to the end user. It’s just this constant uphill battle along with friction the entire time. Idk if it’s by design or that the developers are really that incompetent, but changes to the user interface on Linux needs to change.
> i never posed to be against privacy.
You implied that by smearing linux users as pedos from your debatable sample of anecdotes. Nowadays if you care for your privacy, the number one accusation is no longer "wut r u, gay?" it's "wtf ur a pedo!" not even a question, but an outright assumption.
>I just said, Linux needs to be usable by the masses.
Nonsense. The masses should use Windows. We've already seen what it's like when the masses use linux. It's called Android phones, they use linux. Don't say they don't. Linux is a kernel, and google is using it for Android. It's the greatest victory of linux over windows, and also the greatest shame. Because it's an operating system paid for on the phone, and not for free.
And my IQ is 75. You dumb ass homosexual. You're dragging yourself into the crab bucket by replying to me.
75 is mental retardation. It’s no wonder you like Linux.
we don't want you. bye
1) your PC is too weak to run windows
2) heavily rice your desktop
What do I win?
Proper package manager alone should be good enough reason to move from Windows to Linux
No, fuck off.
Only pajeeet do gatekeeping. Fuck off and poo in the loo
Trannies do it worse.
Get security updates for years and years regardless of whether you have a TPM
C++ dependancy management on windows is an ordeal if you’re not using vcpkg and I have hardware problems with my audio jack that microsoft will probably never fix
>Tell me ONE (1) thing I can do on Linux that I can't just do on win10 either
Own your operations system
If you're the kind of person who needs others to convince you one way or the other and you cannot make an informed decision for yourself, then it doesn't matter if you're using Windows, Linux or MS-DOS. You're still retarded.
Pic related. It's you.
how is linux gaming on old harware?
>7 hours ago
>Literally instigating a flame war
Just use the report button, you dumb naggers.
Do whut now? Say it agin, slower.
there is literally no reason to change windows to linux, everything is made for windows or mac, linux is still in 2010 era, especially with drivers where many devices are castrated from their functionality because they require dedicated software and drivers itself
android is better than linux
You don't need validation from this board, OP. All they've got are privacy concerns because they're into weird shit, as evidenced by half of this website's content. Just use the tool that gets the job done.
Nah. Most of us are just poorfags keeping old machines running. That's all, no pedo conspiracies are whatever else sick minds project. Just broke and maybe a little angr perfectly good hardware gets eclipsed by unnecessary (planned obsolescence) software.
I suppose that's a valid use-case, but really now, how many of you are running machines that use Pentium 4s and Athlon XP processors? Anything newer than that, why not just use Windows and be able to do more with your computer?
Win10 updates are a nightmare on a core 2 duo with 4gb ddr2 RAM (Dell studio 1737). I was fed up with MS basically after win7 and switched to ubuntu full time about 2 years ago. The dell is recent acquisition (free) and the ubuntu machine is an amd fx, ddr3 desktop with radeon r7 gpu. Simply put, it does everything I need it to without MS nagware/interruptions. If you are happy with MS, keep it. If you're not, there are viable alternatives.
last time i played with ubuntu it was just as much shit as a windows install
My first windows install was a shitshow. So was my first ubuntu install. 3rd time was very easy.
Makes you feel smart when you solve a problem threw the terminal
With Linux, you are in complete control, where as Windows, You are the product, with no freedom.
and, as with windows, 99% of linux users(in the year 2003+20) will install everything that takes that freedom away
GIMP, LibreOffice and VLC?
which one can't be installed on windows?
I don't know, I'm feeling quite free and in control after a little tinkering to remove all telemetry and invasive related stuff.
>but if you want to tink-
Yeah yeah I know Linux is the designated schizo tinkering OS, but you see, if I take my sweet time to do it on Windows instead, I will be able to reap benefits from a much more potent and robust system.
can someone tell me what are the current kernel and mesa version on ubuntu LTS?
Don't use Linux, if windows just werks. Its just that simple.
windows is like an old pair of underwear; worn, fart-torn & blemished by ass-butter. but it fits so naturally, it might as well be a part of your body.
linux is like having gay sex; it feels weird and like you're doing something wrong, but eventually you'll start enjoying it and soon enough you're browsing LULZ with librefox
No, this would be a better analogy:
>Windows is like having a wife who gives you regular and reliable sex. She also does all of the housework and cooking. She's plain, kinda boring, a bit naggy, and a gossip, but she gets the job done.
>Linux is like having a wife who looks beautiful in just about any outfit, promises a world of freedom and spontaneity, but she's not that great in bed. There's also some household chores she simply cannot do. Though it's not her fault - she was born disabled. You find yourself doing most of the cooking and what should be her share of the chores, but she does the best she can with what she's got.
Been dual booting for 3 months now (Fedora/Win10).
I've only had to boot back into Windows a few times for files, and doing so opened my eyes to just how incredibly slow Windows is. It takes me about 4 seconds to fully boot into Fedora, open the browser and play a video. It takes me about Three minutes to do the same on Windows.
I've been enjoying the customization and modularity of KDE. I've found tons of useful apps/features the speedup my productivty. And gayming performance is amazingly on par with with my Windows setup. I'm likely going to wipe the Windows drive soon.
But that's just my experience. I can admit that Linux just isn't for some people and might never be.
I don't care what you use, keep using windows if you want.
ps: you're a homosexual for asking.
godlike customization on kde
thumbnails for any format
why not both?
live your digital life on linux and boot windows for the stuff that needs it