Give balkan back to its original inhabitants . Deport all slavs back to Siberia.
LULZ / Misc
Give balkan back to its original inhabitants . Deport all slavs back to Siberia.
Give balkan back to its original inhabitants . Deport all slavs back to Siberia.
>paleo anything
non indo european get the bronze sword.
Greeks, Albanians, and Romanians are all indo European. Illyrians, original Dalmatian inhabitants were in do European. Thracians and Dacians were indo European.
Only by language. Greece has some of the highest neolithic DNA percentage in all of Europe.
>Thracians and Dacians
they were white people, the modern romania is made up of brown mongrel
>Blonde according to greeks
Meanwhile the greeks described literally anyone outside of Greek as being fair haired, from the steppe horsefuckers in the east to the inbred swamp dwellers to the west.
It's was an insult in their world, a sign of the barbaric uncivilized non-greek cretin. Not like the enlightened civilized dark haired Greek and other folks of the Med sea.
Straight from wiki:
"In ancient Greece and Rome, blonde hair was frequently associated with prostitutes, who dyed their hair using saffron dyes in order to attract customers. The Greeks stereotyped Thracians and slaves as blond and the Romans associated blondness with the Celts and the Germans to the north. "
dude i used to live in a small remote village when i came to the city i was shocked, it was as if i went somewhere in fucking brazil or north africa, the amount of brown disgusting subhumans here it's just something else, there's nothing left of real europeans in this shithole of a country
>town rapist pic
What city is that?
I*si
Iasi has a lot of foreign students. That says nothing about the native population, though.
who said anything about the foreign students? frankly what's the difference between a foreigner and an average brownmanian
What I'm saying is that if you see a lot of brownoids they're not necessarily citizens.
I also saw a couple of n-words for the first time 2 years ago because my university brought in some Nigerian students.
POST HAPLOGROUP
Reminder that getting MAGYARED and TURKED was karmic punishment for slavoids.
This applies for the Greeks, Albanians, Romanians too.
deport Albanians to HurkaDurkaland now!
Religion of albanians is albanianism you sl*v
radikal muslim Squarehead Goatfuckers you are
albanians are muslims only on paper, maybe only 1% pray, no one avoid to eat certain foods, no burka, the same albanians that celebrate ramadan, celebrate christmas too, you have people that go to a mosque and church as a hobby, the only muslim things in them is heavy maschilism. The state religion of albanians is atheism, and the flag, the rest is just "yeah my mom and dad was catholic or muslim, so maybe I'm that too"
Slavs are invaders from the east. You should be expelled all back to Russia. You are mongrels and should not even be allowed to breathe on European land
>muslim country
>highest pig consumtion in western balkan
pick one
filthy subhumans
feja e shqiptarit është shqiptaria
Jasha Kokaina
qashtu asht, edhe dot qene per gjithmone
Why would turkn-words and gypsies be allowed in my lebensraum? They're as foreign as the indonesian kid that makes my clothes
This how you talk ablut your blood brothers ? Shame on you youre not real hellene
stfu, moshe
This tbh. More Slavbros to increase our population. More cheap lands for Greekbros to live in and replenish their population. Everyone wins.
Greeks are invaders too. Also there were even older tribes than Thracians in the Balkan Peninsula.
the fuck are them Slavs who speak bad Italian (Rum*nians) doing there?
They are linguistic remnants of the byzantines (latinized non-greeks) who got displaced by slavic migrations. The eastern romans even called themselves similar to romanians.
>who got displaced by slavic migrations
No, that is what they WANT to be. In reality, they are mostly Slavs who have been assimilated linguistically by the Vlachs you are talking about. Open your eyes and ears: They are squatting Abibas-wearing gopniks who back "da!" into their mobiles all day.
Cope harder romanian fleed to the mountains when slavs invaded . Literally could say the same that all spaniards are moorish rapebabies
>fleed to the mountains
Imagine believing this... Sad.
kek,
>slavs are invading
Quick let's go in the direction they are invading from
let's leave our safe Balkan mountains and move to N into slav and whatever land
you realize you call us romans right?
you call us romans that assimilated slavs like it was nothing
All your agricultural vocab is Slavonic. You have some ancient Balkan stuff in you VIA these Slavs, and also from the pre-Romanised ancestors of the Vlachs who taught you your language. But it's hilarious to exclusively stress the Roman element and deny the Slavonic.
About the directions of movement, there were Vlachs moving even into MORAVIA (north of Vienna). It was about ecological zones. The Slavs weren't so interested in the uplands, unlike the pastoralist Vlachs.
Farming meat was better than grain picker lowland monkey. Where is the problem?
There is no problem, apart from the sad fact that Rumanians deny their Slavonic part. Your Vlach ancestors had the advantage at a key point in history, when the local Slavs failed to establish statehood, so the Latin speech spread to them, from their Vlach rulers.
But vlachs are dacians , you probably believe vlachs come from greece right?
>But vlachs are dacians
No, very simplistic. Dacia was a very short term colony. The Romans all fucked off home, and the surviving locals shrugged off their light romanisation and eventually got slavonicised. The more romanised left for Moesia.
The Vlachs came to the region later. They may have had some slight Dacian ancestry, but were probably more Illyrian.
>we lear and read this in schools
I'm pleased to hear that, but most chauvinist retards posting online seem to have forgotten it.
>Rösler theory
Nice VPN, Attila
literally one of our first chronicle says how 1/3 of the Romanians in moldova principality have slavic ancestors
we lear and read this in schools
no one denies it like no one denies the Armenian greek bulgarian refugees we integrated in the 18th century
but the culture is latin and majority of the people too
the polish shepherd culture is influenced by vlach shepherds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorals
btw
>However, Nazi racial theorists considered the 27,000 strong Goral population as a separate ethnic group from the Poles.[15] Termed Goralenvolk, they were deemed part of the "Greater Germanic Race" and given separate (milder) treatment from other Poles.
kek
Exactly ,i always hear people talk about slavic influence on romania ,but never romanian influence to slavic countries.
They were using świeboda (swastika) a lot in their traditional ornaments so of course they were treared better, alike the "Aryan Tibetans"...
>All your agricultural vocab is Slavonic.
dude, slavs were in trasylvania before hungarians
you realize we could end this Transylvania dispute by claiming to just be slavs?
we don't because pan-slavism is a real treat to us, russian dreams of having a connection between them and the S slavs
actually not tue, regionalism (from moldova region) don't count
mistake:
>All your agricultural vocab is Slavonic
actually not true, regionalism (from moldova region) don't count
maybe the majority but not all,
Ah, it's Nestor. Quite a late source, but respectable, yes.
same source but about poles and slavs
Poles are slaves that tried to settle around danube but got their asses handed to them by the vlachs and were forced to flee to vistula
source:chronic of Nestor, kievan rus
>Among these same Slavs are included the White Croats, 3 the Serbs, and the Carinthians. For when the Vlakhs attacked the Danubian Slavs, and did them violence, the latter came and made their homes by the Vistula, and were then called Lyakhs. Of these same Lyakhs some were called Polyanians, some Lutichians, some Mazovians, and still others Pomorians.,
>Almost at its beginning, the Povest' introduces the problem of the original and prehistorical habitat of the Slavs, preserving the tradition that “for many years the Slavs had their abode by the Danube, where the Hungarian and the Bulgarian land now lies.” From this locality, the Povest' represents them as expanding into the valley of the Bo- hemian Morava, and after attacks by the Vlakhs, it is likewise asserted that the Slavs moved north into the Vistula basin.
Again it is mentioned how the vlachs btfo the poles and forced them to flee to vistula
The total amount of movement and the fact that vlachs were allowed to penetrate all the way into the mountains of greece still astounds me.
Greek bros, are you only capable of living near coasts?
hard cope, Szabo
thanks for saying we wuz first before magyars tho
ye, we are pretty mutty
pic if it interests you
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
Multumesc, that's interesting, yes. SO high a neolithic component! By the way, I am haplogroup T, myself. Fucking bizarre one, and you could imagine any kind of absurd story to explain it, but such is life.
>Hittites were R1b
Wrong. There is no Hittite sample with R1 anything. They were J1, G2a and some J2. Most of Armenian, Assyrian R1b is Bagvalal(Avars, Northern Cucasus) and Hajji Firuz/Zagros in origin. Our R1b is Yamnaya in origin but came from Bashkirs.
I will always love Slavic woman.
Map looks cool, where can I find the whole version?
That's all there is. I made it myself.
nice job!
no, they're the ur-heimat of all the latins, they migrated south to albania then crossed into southern italy and up until they encountered etruscans, creating Rome. That's why Sicilian is related to Romanian
Says the moor
The funny thing about their whole Romanboo LARP is that Southern Slavs actually have MORE Roman blood than they do.
Croats in particular because the Latin folks from neighboring provinces mostly fled to their lands and were integrated.
Even funnier is that Rumanian was considered a Slavic language until the XIX century when a few autists did a we wuz Romans LARP and forcibly replaced half of the Slavic vocabulary with Latin sounding neologisms. Even funnier is that actual Latin speakers like
still consider them subhumans regardless.
mr vampire man's grave is literally carved in serbian ,cyrillic too
their church liturgy was done in old church slavonic like everyone else too
They say da = slavic language. Fair enough, but unfortunately polish is not a slavic language then.
Tak is the original Slavic word for “yes”, silly, you grabbed your “da” from turkic Bulgarians
That was centuries before your language got SLAV’D though, and then subsequently re-latinized when nationalists started getting autistic
We grabbed "da" from indoeuropean pra-language, kitten, and we also have "tak", so we're still better than you haha.
> russia
> slavs
The oldest civilization from Europe was located in present day Romania and Ukraine.
Look into the Cucuteni culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni%E2%80%93Trypillia_culture
Europe's oldest modern humans remains found in Romania:
https://www.world-archaeology.com/features/oase-cavethe-discovery-of-europes-oldest-modern-humans/
And we still use words that dacians used, btw.
You are wrong. Even your term for "vlach" means latin language speaker, german and all slavic countries, even hungary, use vlach / olah , lahi or something like that for italian / romanian speaking peoples
none of your historic figures spoke your 19th century legionary larp speak
you were ruled by slavic speakers, then when you gained your new identity and language you put a german family in charge
vlah is literally just shepherd , serbs in bosnia and krajina are also called vlahs
>none of your historic figures spoke your 19th century legionary larp speak
Actaually, they do according to Neacsu letter, written in 1500, but the alphabet was in cyrillic due to the church's influence.
Slavs only influenced us through the orthodox church.
Even earlier do you know about the ring found from 6th century in romanian „torna,torna fratre“?
>slavs only influenced us through the orthodox church
the church was the ONLY thing to preserve language,culture,traditions before schools started in in the late 19th century, just when all these larp nations started popping up
my sides
the Medieval Arvanite houses had nothing to do with Serbs at all dude, trust me
even your name is back and forth term between Serbs and Greeks
this shit happened everywhere worldwide my guy, just because you think it's impossible doesn't means it isn't true
this
all you post 18th century larpers will never not be a meme
so you are schizophrenic.
and you are uneducated if you think the world was sunshine and rainbows
it's not even that i don't recognize Arbanite/Arvanites/Rabians existing
i just don't understand their bunker brains that think they themselves today have nothing to do with Serbs
So where do albos come from then tell me serb!!
Arvanites are from the balkans, and they were shepherds who lived on rocky mountains in the southern tail of the dinaric mountains, and they were integrated into the Medieval Serbian dynastical families
albanians today are Influenced by Turks,Communists, so you being in germany is 100% authentic
also using the white felt hat is a really bad look since Serbs wore it too
having no variety in Folk Dress is a great sign of Socialist homogenisation
So where does their language come from?
Balkans
our brothers before the Ottomans came and drove a wedge between us
So you say the language is native to the region = illyrian?!
chetn-words even stealing our clothes
look at all those serbs around the Serbian church Visoki Decani while wearing white felt hats and white folk dress :^D
or are they albanians? lmao
forgot the picture
no, those are turks and you are a gypsy n-word
>also using the white felt hat is a really bad look since Serbs wore it too
Only southern serbs wear those because they copied them from us. I can't even think of some traditional clothes you subhumans have, most of it is either stolen from us or greeks
Yes there were marriages between medieval Albanian nobility and Serbian nobility, no shit! Nobles always married other nobles, nothing new here. Offcourse there were also slavs, greeks, vlachs, garden gnomes and venetians that lived in Albanian Principalities during the medieval era. The Balkans was like that everywhere. But some of you go as far to deny the existence of Albanians during the middle ages, because of nationalist pie throwing. That's just retarded. Albanians were both Orthodox and Catholic during the middle ages, imagine that! It was always a fight amongst the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church to spread their influence among the Albanians. They were still a minority of Albanians that still practised paleo-balkanic paganism as late as the 16th century worshipping the sun, the moon and snakes. There is no such thing as "100% Illyrian" because that's just dumb as hell, but Albanians were still a very isolated group of people. Most lived in the mountains and lived of herding and livestock. Just like Vlachs, they kept mostly for themselves. Then they moved in the towns during the early middle ages and settled there. The reason why they moved to live in the mountains at the first place was because of the slavic invasions of 7th century. Point is, that they are a different ethnicity that is native to the balkans. They are not Slavs or Greeks, they are Albanians. Not necessary only illyrian but sure as hell paleo-balkanic when it comes to language,culture, and genetics. You try to deny it because of our bad history we had
together post 1878. It's childish and juvenile behavior and nothing else
>It's childish and juvenile behavior and nothing else
no way, a slav/greek using their logic and brain?
posting these composite maps from wikipedia isn't reflective of reality either, aswell as it being after the fragmantation of the Serbian empire
again you have only claims of your age, but nothing to show for it, unlike the Serbs who have so much preserved from every period of our Nemanjic Dynasty
I'm not saying you never existed, or your language never existing
i'm saying the modern Albanian Identity is strange and a shame to their Rabian ancestors
>turks in front of one of the most important serbian churches in the start of the 20th century
AHAHAHA
not talking about cockroaches, Im talking about the clothes, the distinguish clothes that are a copy of our clothes or stolen we call it turks
>Serbian empire
Do we have any concrete proof that this meme kangdom even existed?
we do have
we just don't have time to spoon feed you something you can do easy with a google search
or do you need an exact charter from the austrian court in the 19th century? lmao
>durrr bunkerbanians have no history, but do we have proof that the most famous Serbian ruler even existed??? duuuur
>muh 20th century anti christian talking point
because serbian orthodoxy isn't catholicism
and we are literally practicing pagans with a ancestor cult holiday that is more important than easter or chrismas
more bunkermania incoming
>we do have
Did this empire leave any cultural or technological legacy behind?
how far you wanna move the goalpost? i'm not gonna anwser every disingenuous question you throw at me
you sound like a rootless american
go play online politics somewhere else dude
a pagan or a deist...
this is the most bunkerbanian thing i have ever heard in my life
There are requirements for something to be considered an empire, we can't just call every overextended kangdom that lasts a few decades an empire anon
mrtov shiptar dobar shiptar
wasted digs
can't understand monke, talk in human
wouldn't have happened if serbs didn't use religion as an excuse to start a war
So serbs are to blame, haha. Immature nation (old as europe herself, for sure).
Actually, could you pls tell me how slovenians lived with serbs, croatians and so on in one country? I mean all of them have mostly the same language, but slovenian language is much more different from any slavic. Were slovenians bilingual?
the same one that "overextended" all over Rabno for more than 700 years?
i'm not gonna validate you by giving you answer to your childish questions "waaaa it's not an empire cuz...cuuuz i say sooo!"
you can't be serious kek, since serbs were not even in the balkans 700 years before they got subjugated
Yeah qualification for an empire is 3 kingdoms or 3 different type of peoples and it was an empire. Do your research, you have the power of the internet
the slav n-words have been proven wrong by holy digits
think about it
>kidnapped and forced to become a mudslime
>betrayed by orthodogs (fought against you and won)
>attacked and betrayed by christians (italians) and won against pope
Give me evidence that he fought for christ, cross or serbian orthodoxy and I will become a Christian immediately
>Serbian Orthodoxy isn't catholism
No it's worse. It's garden gnome worshipping. Worshipping garden gnomes is never a good thing.
Christianity is as alien and anti-white as Islam is. Have you seen modern Christianity? All about gay rights, tranny rights, feminism, and accepting n-words and other group of shitskins as "brothers". It's just as bad as Islam now
>Shame to their Rabian ancestors
Why? Because of muh islam? Changing one gnomish religion from the middle east to another gnomish religion from the middle east? Why don't you embrace your ancestors true religion like paganism? Both Christianity and Islam are alien garden gnome religions from the middle east
Russian royalty spoke French in the 19th century cause it was "hip and cool". Vlach kings did the same with slavic.
ofc they spoke a "great european" language because they weren't a part of the "smelly humble serfs" but refined and civilized saxons , like every other slave nation had in the 19th century lmao
Nah, they just spoke their mother tongue.
Ye, Italia is still Włochy for them.
Thats not the oldest culture, search Lepenski vir
>oldest culture, search Lepenski vir
Neither is Lepenski Vir. Fuck's sake, Bogdan, a culture is not the same as a civilisation. Cucuteni-Tripolye reached quite amazing levels of proto-urbanisation, not comparable to your stuff, even from Vinca or Starchevo or whatever.
The roots of Cucuteni–Trypillia culture can be found in the Starčevo–Körös–Criș and Vinča cultures of the 6th to 5th millennia,[7] with additional influence from the Bug–Dniester culture (6500–5000 BC)
>actual Latin speakers like
the fuck are them Slavs who speak bad Italian (Rum*nians) doing there? (You) still consider them subhumans regardless.
Haha, no, I have good Rumano friends. But their historical notions are hilarious.
n-word read what your pope said about us
POPE PIUS II (1458-1464) (Commentarium rerum memorabilium)
"VALACHI lingua utuntur Italica, verum imperfecta, et admodum corrupta;
sunt qui legiones Romanas eo missas olim censeant adversus Dacos, qui eas
terras incolebant; legionibus Flaccum quendam praefuisse, a que Flacci
primum,deinde Valachi, mutatis litteris, sint appellati;quorum posteri
(ut ante relatum est) "
SUMMARY:
(The Vlachs are a people of Roman origin,born from an antic Roman
Imperial colony,speaking a language close to Latin or Italian)
the fuck are them Arabs who speak bad Italian (Sp*niards) doing there?
>bad Italian
Jaja!
Romanian is closer to latin than French so how about that you arab rape baby
What a stupid comparison. Both languages are far from Latin. French is phonetically very much an outlier, and is full of Germanic loans. Why even bring it up? None of the living Romance languages are more Latin than any others, realistically (though perhaps Sard would be the best contender). There are some intelligent Rumanos in this thread, so you should probably shut up and let them speak instead.
>Why even bring it up?
Romanian always bring up the French, because they have a very deep cultural connection. The Romanian flag for example is just the French flag that have been pissed on.
Also this, romanians are slavs speaking a latin language
>Albanians making demands
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
We are gonna drown you n-words!
You want to get your ass beat a second time? This time we will get presheva and sanjzak
>This time we will get presheva and sanjzak
Come get bitch! Give us coordinates of your house.
You cant even step one foot into kosovo
For now...
Dont get cocky kid, bulk of NATO army is concentrated in the Baltics to stop big scary bear from the east, tide is shifting.
Yea because last time we needed nato ARMY right…
You are not a threat and you never were, you are nothing, When Russia and China take off your NATO skirt that you hide under we will burn you all...
Wait what? You seriously believe Kosovo would be Albanian today without burger intervention?
You do know that the Croats and Serbs teamed up during the conflict in order to get rid of their common enemy: The muzzies? And then the burgers forced the Croats to pick up their initial alliance with the Bosniaks again so they can defeat their common enemy: The Serbs.
Imagine the burgers didn't intervene: No more Bosniaks, no more Albanian Kosovo.
What are all these proud Albanians doing in my country?
Stealing, taking state benefits, and raping?
The only good Albano:
Ich bin deutscher du lackaffe
Sofern du nicht gerade deinen Router neu gestartet hast, hab ich meinen Kommentar auch nicht an dich adressiert, oder etwa doch?
Albanianizing
is that the gay pride parade
Oh no no noooo please don't kill them!!
Khazar filth. Get the fuck outta here you damn cockroach.
Why do Slavs even exist? What are they good for?
It's in the name
slava = glory, slovo = word - yep you're right, mr. wong
Correct. People actually falling for meme science are absolute retards.
And don't forget the word "servus", which is still in english with its meanings.
>we wuzn't slavez n shieet
Fun fact Slavs were originally called slaves by arabs as most of their slaves came from the proto-slavic states of the time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqaliba
Lol, your language was so poor, that only ruski commies gave it a change to live, extending vocabulary beyond "fuck goats" and "fuck dogs".
And yes, a bird on your flag got into a car accident, feel sorry for it.
Breeding.
Pic related is (You)
False fake pic. This is true turk chad.
However if you check back to reality you will realize I am the proto European native and you are an alban*an zerg rat in Germany.
First mentioned alban*an rat was mentioned in the 11th century in a Dubrovnik court case as he was a cattle thief.
You have some illyrian dna because when you came you rsped the natives there you genocidal slav
You have already been turked and blacked beyond recovery, kraut.
Meanwhile I'm relaxing by the sea in a 98% white (at least for now) country.
>You have already been turked and blacked beyond recovery, kraut
Love these memes
Your country seems white because we come in sommer here an fuck your women
Picrel croatian masterrace
>Meanwhile I'm relaxing by the sea in a 98% white (at least for now) country.
Your young men are in western Europe, who's gonna do the working in Croatia?
You got it, your government is gonna import Africans and Afghans to do that.
>I am the proto European native
even a n-word would be ashamed of this level of WE WUZ
Admit it. You guys marathoned Twilight and loved it.
Who gives a shit, we're all diluted at this point
And deport "romanians" and albanians into Turkey, or India.
And all the huns back to Mongolia, that's right cause you Hungarians never learn, TRIANON 2.0, WE'RE TAKING IT ALL!
slavs are subhuman indeed
Albos quite literally have the least right to claim to paleobalkan heritage out of all countries in Balkans. Do they even know who was called Illyrian quite recently in European history?
You can literally google it right now.
>its original inhabitants
The Danubians and descendants of the Çatalhöyük survivors?
I get the feeling you might not like the result of doing that.
Duroid
haha absolute shitholes
>paleo
Like cavemen? How would the live without mammoths?
greeks, albanians, and romanians are all literal turks
gayreek homosexual n-word thread itt suck a pozzed cock homo n-words
>greeks
literally lived in their island and a couple of mainland cities
>romanians
All of their past rulers have Slavic/Serbian names, they didn't exist as a people until the 19th century , aswell as their language being reinvented in the 19th century to be less slavic and more "roman"
>Albanians
claim to be some ancient iron age people, yet have massive holes in their historic timeline to even consider them more than rocky mountain shepherds who speak a weird language
+ there are Serbian monasteries and churches all over Kosovo and Albania, and literally nothing done by "albanians"
All in all this sort of balkan shitflinging can only work if you don't know history or you are being purposely disingenuous, that you would skip over massive amounts of history or you don't consider a certain year "relevant"
Here there you got your answer
literally what i said, that you have nothing to show the world except retarded speculations about how "ancient" you are while only being mountain shepherds
you will never be taken seriously, you can never rewrite your history to whatever schizo 19th century national building you love to larp as
They Serbs like everyone else
their Crnagora entity existed as a strong Serb holdout against the ottomans
the name probably stems from the Crnojevic dynasty
the idea of them being independent from Serbs has been tried by the very famous 19th century national building in the Balkans, as well as the more successful communists in yugoslavia (who finalized the creation of the macedonian identity)
i suspect if this thread doesn't get deleted i will get more stupid replies by people saying "duurrr the austrians/vatican said we existed in the 18th century so that means we wuz bla bla"
Let me guess skanderbeu was a serb huh?
literally all the Arbanite houses in the Medieval Serbian Kingdom/Tsardom were intermarried with Serbian houses
Skanderbeg literally had ancestors,brothers and children with Serbian names
or let me guess they are all ancient bunkerbanian names? lmao
i don't even know why you Albanians keep talking about Skanderbeg so much, if he saw what you became today, he would just call you all Mohammed loving Turks.
one of the most famous Arbanite lords Karlo Topija even had made his endowment in honor of Jovan Vladimir
but he was shen gjon right? haha
Yea i dont discuss with idiots like you i ratther now book flight to Mitrovicë , why dont you come also ? Oh wait i almost forgot:)
Skanderbeg was unironically a circumcised mosleman for most of his life, and converted to catholicism for venetian gibs when his family was orthodox. All this religious nationalism means nothing.
>he was first a muslim then a catholic
>no evidence that he ever carried the cross
Skanderbeg was Albanian pagan or at most a Deist
His father was buried at mount Athos near Hilandar, most of his relatives were also buried at Athos. Your pagan Kastrioti myth is bullcrap
>Skanderbeg had three older brothers, Stanisha, Reposh and Constantine, and five sisters, Mara, Jelena, Angelina, Vlajka and Mamica.
oh no no no no no
>Stanisha, Reposh and Constantine, and five sisters, Mara, Jelena, Angelina, Vlajka and Mamica
Slavonic (< Stanislav), ????, Latin,
Hebrew, Greek, Greek, ????, ????
ah yes Cтaнишa is totally just a random slavic name and he wondered into the Serbian Empire from some unknown tribe
the names that are of biblical or greek origin are also written in its Serbian form so it's Jelena not Helena/Elena
Vlajka and Mamica is just laughable to even explain tbh
thank you USA
>written in its Serbian form
Pure Gaels with Classical or Biblical names often write them in the English manner. That's not conclusive. But DO try and explain the other two girls' names and Reposh! I'm genuinely interested. Again, it wouldn't be conclusive anyway, but the general "take" to come away from this with is that Albanians and Slavs (and Vlachs) lived in close, complicated relations.
Stanisha is very serbian as is todays Radisha,Ugljesha which is only found in Serbia
I'm not very versed in the root source of these names, but what i am saying is these names are only today found in Serbian orthodox families while modern albanians have almost nothing of the sort
The Arvanites/Rabians were seen as one kin with Medieval Serbs, so seeing today's Albanians who have gone through massive Ottoman influence and communist reforms, to start venorating Skanderbeg,Leka Dukadjin and even Karlo Topija is really weird
Bosnia,Kosovo,Montenegro,Macedonia
even croatia with its "Kings"
the glown-words of the time was Vienna/Vatican + Moscow at some points
Each one of them were Albanians you dipshit. They literally had nothing to do with Serbs, not a single one of them identified themselves as Serbs. Not even one. It's hard for Serbs to accept that there are other ethnicities on the balkan pennisula that isn's serbian. You are fapping to your own autism and nothing else
>literally had nothing to do with Serbs
You idiot, imagining your people lived in a hermetically sealed package, or behind a magic forcefield, ever since the days of Illyria...
Could you explain pls, what's wrong with montenegrins (except for their name)? They have they own state, language (-le -> -lje, 100% new language), flag, but why every person i met told me he's serbian and rusi bracia?
>someone taught millions of illiterate peasants a new language
Thats some schizo shit
That actually happened many times historically. You speaking literar Norwegian instead of some buttfuck dialect from some out of era fishing village is an example of it.
or saxon/gaelic since he is probably descendent from a thrall to some point
>Be serbn-word
>be n-wording around your n-wordhood
>invade a culturally developed and prosperous region while its warrior class is out fighting the Seljuks
>n-wordishly paint over most of their cultural sites claiming them for yourself
>destroy anything you can't n-wordishly appropriate for the next 800 years
>n-wordishly destroy anything new they build as a means to erase them
>"there are Serbian monasteries and churches all over Kosovo and Albania, and literally nothing done by "albanians""
this is literally n-word tier "whitey took our shit"
you can make up negative claims to serbs building churches all you want (lmao even), but at least give us something to fill in that void, because only aliens or Yakub can take that place
anime posting bunker dwellers
Why would muslims build orthodox chruches tho? Also if they are your legacy why did you burned them?
>Why would muslims build orthodox chruches tho?
Might have something to do with Albanians having a nearly 700 year head start on the whole christianity thing as compared to Serbs?
AYO
HOL UP
IS YOU TELLIN US
THAT WE
WUZ
ORGAN STEALERZ N SHIET?
Yet you converted to islam under Turks so you pay lower taxes, while we kept chirstiany this speaks a lot about people mentaility you know... YOu are born to be ruled over
The whole point of converting to islam was to have more autonomy
You like to bend the knee, thats why converted to every religion possible
>unironically does not know anything about Albanian history
>claims Albanians have gaps
I was willing to have a serious discussion regarding the history of Christianity in Albania, but I'd be wasting my time with two ideological serbn-words.
add something and we can talk
posting anime pictures doesn't really prove any point
we actually 3 architectural styles
just because you're tonibler ,doesn't mean i have to spoonfeed you anything
go play identity politics somewhere else kek
TonyBlairs... Christ, are those gypsies, or can Albos look so freakish too?
>taci >mulici
what do you think?
How the fuck should I know. Those surnames might as well be Burmese to me. And Gypsies there probably have similar names to the locals anyway, like everywhere else they live.
well their first name is to honor the great albanian leader tony blair
and one of the boys has the same last name as the president of kosovo kek
>We kept our garden gnome religion while you changed your garden gnome religion for another garden gnome religion
Trannies are showing their dicks to little kids in Churches now. That's Christianity now these days.
Literally your entire feudal families did the exact same thing, as did many Byzantine and Bulgarian families. Just because that inbred turboautist Njegoš told you to kill slavic muslims, does not mean the centuries of ottoman occupation and influence were erased from your history.
all our noble families fled to crnagora and hercegovina and all the tribes are descendent from them
>slavic muslims
they were literally the only turks in teh balkans in the 19th century, are we supposed to fucking kiss and hug them? fucking retard
>all our noble families fled to crnagora and hercegovina and all the tribes are descendent from them
That's some mighty make-believe right there. Look up what happened to the Brankovic, Durasevic, Balsic, Crnojevic, Mrnjavic, Andelovic, Ratcovic and almost all the cadet branches of the Nemanjic, they bent their little heads to the sultan and were allowed to keep their positions. Omitting that patt of your history does you no favor.
I've studied Balkan history for the last 8 years with a voracious appetite for knowledge to try and understand what lead to this situation. After these 8 years I've come to the conclusion that:
>the average balkan-word does not know his own history
>the average balkan-word does not know his neighbor's history
>the average balkan-word does not know the real reason he hates his neighbor
>the average balkan-word is oblivious to the historical power plays in the region
>the average balkan-word sees himself as a victim, a sacrificial lamb, instead of the used up whore he really was
>the average balkan-word clings to a feeling of noble savagery to hide his own ignorance
>the average balkan-word only argues as a means of stress-relief
>the average balkan-word is too occupied with his own survival in his own country to really have an impact on reality
>the average balkan-word thinks his country is superior to that of his neighbor as a coping mechanism, intentionally to ignore his own misery
>the balkan-word thinks he is a unique and special snowflake, and that he has remained pure from foreign influence, compared to his neighbors
I unironically could go on and on about this, but it would be like a drop in the bucket because the smart balkan-word already left their country, as compared to the average balkan-word.
>the average balkan-word does not know his own history
I do, i love history
>the average balkan-word does not know his neighbor's history
I do, i know Albanian, or Arbanasi history
>the average balkan-word does not know the real reason he hates his neighbor
Yes i do, Albanians and Serbs are at war for at least 300 years, we both wanted to rule these lands.
>the average balkan-word is oblivious to the historical power plays in the region
I know that too and judging those you will never have Greater Albania, Greater Anything is not allowed in the Balkans, its a doorway of Europe its easer to do powerplays with smaller nations, Balkans is very important to control. Big powers will not give this region to us, its too improtant, like Gibraltar will never be Spanish Balkan will always be either US, Russia or China.
>the average balkan-word sees himself as a victim, a sacrificial lamb, instead of the used up whore he really was
So whats the point of this?
>the average balkan-word clings to a feeling of noble savagery to hide his own ignorance
Luiteraly basic human nature.
>the average balkan-word only argues as a means of stress-relief
What else can we do?
>the average balkan-word is too occupied with his own survival in his own country to really have an impact on reality
Reality of what? Normies dont give a flying fuck about this, only we autist shitpost and some n-words in the comment section on youtube
>the average balkan-word thinks his country is superior to that of his neighbor as a coping mechanism, intentionally to ignore his own misery
Every European thinks this, do you have any idea how France is salty becuase they lost their superpower status they had until WW2? Serbia was literaly french satelite state until WW2!
>the balkan-word thinks he is a unique and special snowflake, and that he has remained pure from foreign influence, compared to his neighbors
Like who? If you come to Belgrade you will see influence of at least 10 empires that ruled here
I love our perma war, its way too fun to let it go, seems like you wanna cling on it also.
But you need to put your money where your mouth is, our Z vehicles are ready!
Yes, more useless wars were europeans kill other europeans. Just what we need. Just like the Russians killing and raping Ukrainians while shitskins from the third world are invading white nations and replacing native whites. Yeah, that will do the trick! More useless infighting while we are all getting replaced by garden gnomes. Good Thinking Dragan!
You literally want war with us, what did you do for peace? You refused every olive branch in the last 15 years.
>let us reabsorb your country
>what will you do afterwards
>we will reinstate the draconian laws that are you split off in the first place lmao
>we will also genocide you lmao
>why do you keep rejecting this olive branch!?!?!?
watch your ass or you might find yourself with us casually walking in your capital like we did to the bulgarians (and we did I because we were allies with you and Greece)
albanians fucked with us and we have to deal with them too
you don't get it, you fainted italian
>You literally want war with us
yeah come at me serbroach
>roman built church
>greek name on icon
>somehow related to modern bunkerbanians
you are albozergs are proving my point this entire thread
you have only vague notions of history
literally mountain shepherds that did nothing for their entire existance
sit down
Adding some slavic script to roman architecture and byzantine icons won't make ''your'' churches unique
>Albanians
mulatto mystery meat
>Greek
mulatto mystery meat
>Romanian
gypsies
Native Balkanites got raped by so many different ethnicities you don't even know who you are anymore, a modern Greek is completely different than a Greek 2500 years ago
Maybe but that will be still nothing compared to the rape of your country
Only thing your people rape here are Turkish Kebab Shop job applications, Tonibler
>completely different
Stupid nonsense. Even the new Albanian and Slavonic element is just an extra helping of PalaeoBalkan genetic material that the Greeks were originally made of anyway. And even accepting that, there ARE regions that are "purer" than others.
>ju luk djipsi
The greek guy who looks like a gypsy is unironically an Albanian
I'm Dinarid, only Balkan native.
Christian Turks, Albozergs and Gypsies should go back to Asia
>Albania
OH NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
literally only Bulgars and Serbs have any history on the balkans
the rest is banana republic tier
it's almost as if the glown-words push for nationalism in the smaller, made up countries but weaken all larger countries.
Montenegro - Serbia
Austria - Germany
Ukraine - Russia
you get the idea.
dorians were not OG though
So this is what israelis feel when a bunch of arabs creatures WE WUZ as ancient palestinians n shiet huh?
>Israelis
only Mizarhi belong to Middle east, Ashkenazi larpers are fraudsters
Brown creatures like ""palestinians"" and itt posters belong in hell. They got no bussiness being on the surface, let alone claim nativity anywhere in that surface.
>Brown creatures like ""palestinians"" and itt posters belong in hell.
And "mizrahis" as well or whatever those brown creatures we wuz as.
>Albanians
>original inhabitants
>not turkoarabic mutts
thracians were there before shitreeks and romania and albania weren't countries at all
can someone pls nuke albania?
thx
eastern germany is historically slavonic land
I love the intensity of the little ethnic squabbles of Europeans. The smaller the group, the more intense they are, and the easier it is to work them into a frenzied seethe. It's quite the phenomenon
your alphabet agencies understand that quite well and both arm and legitimize even the smallest of ethnicities.
all in an attempt to hurt large, nationalist countries. you understand why they do it, right?
>leave the yunan to me, boss
Turk larpers, Turk rapebabies, and literal fucking Turks. Wow, I wonder who could've written this post.
Isnt your grandfather an abbo?
Are you the delusional Albo samefagging in this thread? Show hand Mqeshxhmet
Its funny you can tell who made this meme.
A greek wouldnt, since he already knows what he is and doesnt flaunt it. One of the other two is using Greeks to bolster their claim to originality.
And a Romanian would never make a meme where theyre compared to someone as dirty as Albanians.
Ergo an Albanian made the meme.
literal 4 figure IQ
>Greek shitskin posting
ahahahha have a (You)
>South Slav
>Actual Slav
They are Paleo-Balkanians that got so raped they adopted the language of their rapists. Show some pity.
Actually, avars (turkics) genocided the latinized inhabitants. Slavs may have been their slave forces they used as cannon fodder, but eventually tribes of militarily organized slavs descended and rekt the avars. From thereon, the natives slowly assimilated to slavic culture and adopted the language.
This is what a Byzantine emperor said
I hate slavdogs with a passion but i hate diaspora larpers even more
Assimilate all Albanians and Slavoids, Italy shall extend to the Black Sea.
Fucking gypsies all of you eurofags
Rootless cunt
Shut the fuck up you resident of Gomorrah.
Everyone is overstating the importance of their insignificant nation, just shut the fuck up we all live in shitholes
Slavs(especially south slavs) have grandiose delusions which should be crushed at any given opportunity
Seething won't make any of what i said less true ruski
it has to be a logical conclusion to trivialize and relativize everything you see as "grandiouse delusions" when you have very little "albanian" to show the world
>when you have very little "albanian" to show the world
Don't really give a shit as i'm not a nationalist. My problem with south slavs is that a very destructive people, literally every issue the balkan faces can be traced back to you n-words infighting
> south slavs is that a very destructive people
> list of destroyed orthodox churches in Kosovo, some of them are even older than most of the nations, arguing here
> more than 70 positions
> Vatn-words
pls
> poor
sharing with the poor is a duty of a good christian. Oh wait, you're not, savage
And yea, rich albanian hahaha
> mongrels
See nothing bad in it, even if i'm not.
> superiority complex
pls i'm a small man in a big world
albania is a rich nation, the people are dumb
> the people are dumb
That's what we're talking about the whole thread.
Albanian proving multiple points here
>> south slavs is that a very destructive people
>> list of destroyed orthodox churches in Kosovo, some of them are even older than most of the nations, arguing here
>> more than 70 positions
Thats what happens when you use religion as an excuse to start wars
>sharing with the poor is a duty of a good christian. Oh wait, you're not, savage
With who is Russian sharing their non-existent wealth?
> Thats what happens when you use religion as an excuse to start wars
Lol even turks preserved Sophia, and you're worse than turks. (and they love reptiloids like this:
? so think about it)
It turns out, with all euro-cucks, who keep their eyes closed on the warcrimes less than 1k km away from them
>Lol even turks preserved Sophia,
Yeah as a mosque kek. I mean if you want we can convert the remaining churches too i wouldnt mind
Not native in the literal sense but they were the original inhabitants of the balkans
L2 is native in the literal sense, E and J came from elsewhere.
Haplogroup I2a was the most frequent Y-DNA among western European mesolithic hunter gatherers (WHG) belonging to Villabruna Cluster. A 2015 study found haplogroup I2a in 13,500 year old remains from the Azilian culture (from Grotte du Bichon, modern Switzerland). Subclades of I2a1 (I-P37.2), namely I-M423 and I-M26 have been found in remains of Western European Hunter-Gatherers dating from 10,000 to 8,000 years before present respectively.
WHG were not the original inhabitants, anatolian farmers were
Anatolian Farmers were G2 not J2.
BTW, Ancient Greeks were also G kek! So much for Anatolian Turks = Ancient Anatolians meme. G is like 10% in Turkey. It's even less than 10% in Greece.
Funnily enough our J2 is Xiongnu in origin.
>Xiongnu
They imported labour from all of the known world. Could just be a regular n-word.
Still can't explain how 30% G2, 30% J1, 30% J2, 10% others Anatolia turned into 25% J2, 20% R1b, 10% R1a, 10% G2, 10% J1 in few millenias.
the place was a metropolitan area for thousand of years
expect major demographics changes
Maybe. J2 was still a major haplogroup.
Damn, you really are Turkic in origin. I kneel.
My bad, still that doesn't disprove that the point WHG are not the original inhabitants
Link the study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6425003/
Regarding their genetic proximity to the WHG, it has been proven that this proximity is greater with the so-called Villabruna cluster, which lived in Europe 14,000 years ago, and in particular with the individual known as Iron Gates HG, from the Balkans . The detailed study of these results suggests that this affinity is not due to a genetic flow from the AHG to the ancestors of the Villabruna cluster, but on the contrary: there was a genetic flow from the ancestors of the Villabruna cluster to the ancestors of the AHG.
> Yeah as a mosque kek. I mean if you want we can convert the remaining churches too i wouldnt mind
Lol you could even make a brothel of them i don't mind, but anything but destroying is much beyond your wild mindset.
I don't have complexes about that, but how does it feel to be a slave of a slave?
Vatn-words are a perfect example of what i'm saying. You are poor asiatic mongrels with a superiority complex
the who's older and who came first game is very meaningless when there is no continuation or meaningful legacy
so start learning about meaningful history instead of going around talking about muh iron age tribe and muh neolithic civilization if your people were nothing but shepherds from 1000 years until the 19th century
south slavs are more paleo balkan than greeks and albos
I'm dalmatian and I don't look slav. Could be just italian genes, though. Or maybe we already are the natives? Who knows at this point, but I don't think there are many pure slavs in this region.
>in this region
I mean balkans.
If you're I2, you're native.
Since you're Croat, you probably carry all of the standard haplogroups of Europe (R1, I1, maybe a splash of J2, E1 and G2A).
>I2
>native
Only R1, E and J can be considered native
E and J are not native to Europe you can cope all you want
So we are the mutt of yurop. At least it's a mix of caucasoid races and nothing extreme.
a single haplogroup doesn't represent a race/ethnicity
a mix of haplogroups that are consistant with a larger population group represents a race/ethnicity
Kek cant hold land against a slavic horde get rekt
> not I2
> thinks they're native to Europe
> thinks bankrupt Greece should have more land rather than be annexed into whoever is closest
The Balkans is historically native and Germanic land. Yikes.
>t. Germanic diaspora subhuman
It's original inhabitants.... you mean Greeks and Albanians? Yeah, we totally need more of them.
>albanians think Serbian Churches are theirs and we stole it from them
WE WUUUUZ
Every thread I've seen on the Balkans has been a total clusterfuck.
Romania is not in the balkans
Slavs didn't come from siberia, however you, germoid spawn, did, and you have to go back
Please let me live there ,you can have whole of germany
We don't need you deutschistan, we have our own -stanis here, but thank you.
Yea in my place around 40% are russians now i guess do reclaim ancient slavic soil
Maybe they are just sorbians, or repatriated germans from kazakhstan.
Those „germans“ are literally just russians who changed their last name when they came here lmao .also lots of russian garden gnomes here because free gibs
> Those „germans“ are literally just russians who changed their last name when they came here lmao
Nah, they already had german last names - they either are descendants of german villages or war captives sent to different gulagistans (but ye, they are superrusified, even more than ordinary russians lol)
> also lots of russian garden gnomes here because free gibs
Oh shit where do i sign the papers?
I know an orthodox russian only his grandmother is gnomish so you should find cute khazar
> so you should find cute khazar
Unfortunately the only khazars i can find there - literal turkic horde dudes.
Funny thing, but they are much closer (at first glance) to our south caucasus republics, than to ruskis.
There is no difference between Balkan-words and Vatniks
idk why this serb and the rest of the schizo gang bothers to post bs
>Kekaumenos, Consilia et Narrationes
here you literally have a butthurt Byzantine chronicler in the 11th century insulting us because we were starting rebellions but admitting in the same time that we, vlachs, are daco-romans tracing us to our last king Decebal that was killed by romans when we were finally conquered
btw Serbia, part of Bulgaria and everything to the W until the old Italian borders is ours
sorry I didn't say it, this greek that hated us did
1k years later and we didn't changed a bit, we generate the same butthurt in our enemies, and you call us larpers?
About the Vlachs
I give you, and your offspring, this advice. Since the race of the Vlachs is entirely untrustworthy, and corrupt, and keeps true faith neither with God nor with the Emperor, nor with a relative or a friend, but endeavours to do down everyone, tells many lies and steals a great deal, swearing every day the most solemn oath to its friends, and violating them easily, performing adoptions of brothers and baptismal alliances, and scheming by these means to deceive simpler people, it has never yet kept faith with anyone, not even with the earlier emperors of the Romans. After being fought by the emperor Trajan, and entirely wiped out, they were captured, and their king, the so-called Dekabalos, was killed and his head was fastened on a spear in the middle of the city of the Romans. These are the so-called Dacians and Bessi They lived formerly near to the Danube river, and the Saos, the river which we now call the Sava, where Serbs live now, in secure and inaccessible places. Being confident in these (places), they pretended friendship and service to the earlier emperors of the Romans, and used to go out of their strongholds and plunder the lands of the Romans; as a result they were angered with them, and, as has been said, destroyed them. They left those parts, and were scattered throughout all Epirus and Macedonia, but most of them inhabited Hellas. They are very cowardly, with the hearts of hares, but with bravado - and even this comes from cowardice.
So I advise you not to trust these people at all. And, if a revolt ever takes place, and they pretend friendship and trust, swearing by God to keep it, don’t trust them. It is better for you not to make them swear at all, nor to give them an oath, but to watch them, as evil men, rather than swearing or receiving an oath. So you mustn’t trust them at all; only, pretend yourself to be their friend. But, even if, sometime, an uprising takes place in Bulgaria, as has been said before, even if they profess to be your friends, or even swear, don’t trust them. But, even if they bring their women and their children into the fortress belonging to Romania, encourage them to bring them, only let them be inside the citadel; let (the men) be outside. If they wish to go in to their households, let two or three go in; when they come out, you let others in turn come in. Pay great attention to the walls and to the gates. If you do so, you will be in safety. But, if you allow many to go in to their households, the fortress will be betrayed by them, and you will be bitten by them as if by an asp, and then you will remember my advice. But, if you observe this, you will have them as your subjects, and will also have freedom from worries.
https://ancientwisdoms.ac.uk/mss/viewer.html?viewColumns=greekLit%3Atlg3017.Syno298.sawsEng01%3Adiv4&viewOffsets=-2361
Another Balkan hate thread died, until next time bros!
Vucic will be emperor of the balkans