From the (mythical) founding of the city of Rome in 753 BC, to the Fall of Constantinople in 1453, the Roman state lasted 2206 years.
From the (mythical) founding of the city of Rome in 753 BC, to the Fall of Constantinople in 1453, the Roman state lasted 2206 years.
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>Fall of Constantinople in 1453
The end of Byzantine Empire started on post-690-1204
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I genuinely can’t see any reason to consider the post 1204 despots to be authentic Roman states. If anything the Latin empire was more legitimate by virtue of having Constantinople from the outside but obviously they were all non-citizens. The Angeloi were the true last of the Romans from a legal standpoint
>If anything the Latin empire was more legitimate
Yes! And?
The franks are visibly separate in your own map you retard.
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Ok you actual retard
>I genuinely can’t see any reason to consider the post 1204 despots to be authentic Roman states
if you can recognise the Angelos dynasty you can recognise Laskaris.
The last legitimate roman state ended in 476
There is absolutely no legitimate criteria where this could be true and it unironically undermines the entire idea of a Roman state ever existing
Um sweaty, that's been debunked.
This. Even if you're a really hardcore anti-Byzantine guy this is ridiculous. Who the hell doesn't consider Justinian, at the very least, to be a real Caesar? Classicists are braindead to a man.
It ended at Milvian Bridge. The moment it became a Christian Empire, it ceased being Roman.
I know Christians love being credited for other people's achievements (read: the enlightenment, lol), but when Constantines ideology had 0 in common with Augustus.
Constantine only legalized christianity to my knowledge, if anything it ended on the reign of theodosius, who is who legally christianized the empire.
>It ended at Milvian Bridge (312AD). The moment it became a Christian Empire (395AD), it ceased being Roman.
you have listed two moments 83 years apart.
why is it LULZ is getting filled with basic knowledge arrogant twats?
It ended on 9 June 68. After that it was just usurpers.
Mehmed left the Roman bureacracy mostly intact though as he was a romanoboo.
Technically Roman state only failed after Ottomans fell apart.
If Ottomans are considered a continuation to Rome, why end it here? Modern Turkey is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire and therefore to Rome! Ave Princeps Erdoğan!
We can’t consider Ottomans continuation. We almost could when Orhan married Byzantine princess and gave him a son. However he wasn’t first to the heir on Orhans death and the Ottoman sultan culture of killing all brothers so you’re the sole heir happened.
*Finland
Dream much, Mehmed?
>romanoboo
>modernist claim
No he wasn’t, Turkic emperor all way pro-Islamic
>SALVETE FRATRES MEI
If Soissons in France survived until 1453, would you consider it a true successor to Rome?
I agree with tha, but I could pull the end of the roman empire as far as 1204 (not really a fan of that theory though) However the ottoman empire/sublime porte7whatever the fuck was not rome and never will be rome.
The Roman state ended in 1922 with the end of the Ottoman Empire
>mythical
remus fanboy detected, get dunked on bitch
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