>"From America Sir?
>"No sir, from Virginia"
When did americans stop identifying with their state?
>"From America Sir? >"No sir, from Virginia"
>"From America Sir?
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After the civil war when Yankees banned it in the moral code
When liberals startes hating America. Basically dixies were fine loving their states until northeners started hating America, they felt they needed to overcompensate their love for America.
When I was a kid I remember watching Ken Burns Civil War or something with my dad. I was blown away when Robert E. Lee was quoted saying something to the effect of "I'm a Virginian first, and American second." I couldn't fathom identifying with my state more than my country, no modern American can. When I got older I realized it was essentially the conflict between loyalty to state and nation which was the basis of the Civil War, and that the nation side won. Now no Americans identify with their state, except possibly Texans.
Maybe Alaskans? Definitely some Californians and people from weird rural states like Wyoming, Vermont and Maine have a very strong state identity too.
The 1950s and '60s were when it died out for good. A combination of the New Deal, World War II, television, and the interstate marginalized the states in most people's minds, and a string of liberal Supreme Court decisions basically abolished the right to self-government. Since then, the states have just been tools for implementing or disrupting federal policy, depending on which party is in control.
California doesn't have a state identity. It has an ideological identity that it uses the state to advance.
All of the east coast has pretty strong state identity still. Not as strong as in 1822 but it's definitely still there.
When I was younger I think I identified more with America, but after 2020 I identify with my state first. Fuck this shitty country.
>When I got older I realized it was essentially the conflict between loyalty to state and nation which was the basis of the Civil War,
No it was about slavery?
>Now no Americans identify with their state, except possibly Texans
travel more and or talk with people outside your lifestyle, plenty of people see their state or regional identity as important
I began identifying with my home state and its region a lot more after I went to uni in another state and found that I preferred my home state to the other state
I've always identified with my state (West Virginia) because we don't particularly have a place in the union. We're poor and forgotten, neither Yankee nor southern.
So yeah, I'd call myself West Virginian before I would American.
what exactly is a west virginian
being forgotten by the public servant sis a good thing; they are not on your back and you can enjoy the non-polluted outdoor
West Virginia is famous for coal mining.
And this is why Americans will never take down the ~~*Federal Reserve*~~
In 1913 the puppet Woodrow Wilson betrayed his country by allowing the Synagogue of Satan to build their parasitic Federal Reserve
Wait whoops, replied to OP rather than to
>When did americans stop identifying with their state?
WWII, when the US military specifically mixed soldiers from different regions to prevent a single community from losing all their sons in one battle.
The result was servicemen interacting with guys from all over the US and adopting the attitude of being "Americans" instead of "X staters".
In the context of Sharpe? Almost immediately Thomas Leroy was born to a Loyalist family that didn't identify as Yanks to begin with.
He looks Sintashta
I grew up in Southern Virginia and was surprised when I encountered folks who see themselves as "American" first. I only call myself American when I am abroad.
American identity seems strongest in the Red towns and counties in the Midwest. You see tons of American flags all over the place and the USA identity is extremely strong.
The. Civil. War
I never stopped, and I bet my entire life savings that American identify more with their state than Europeans do with whatever political division they come from unless it’s something like Catalonia.
I grew up in New England and didn't leave until I was in my late teens, never really understood the memes about the US being a flat endless row of strip malls full of cash lenders and fast food chains until I visited the South. Not saying New England doesn't have its own unique flavors of bleakness or that there weren't nice parts of the South, but leaving New England made me realize I identified as a New Englander first.
Are socially conservative areas of the Midwest the only place that identifies with the USA first? In working class and conservative areas of the Midwest, American flags and USA identity is huge. I see flag after flag after flag over and over again and songs like "I'm proud to be an American" were very big.
how do people explain that the town in new england always get right the winner of the presidential election
Dixville Notch? They actually lost their 40 year streak in 2016 when they voted for Hillary instead of Trump.
It just gets tiresome with non-burgers if you're not from cali or NY. Imagine this conversation happening a zillion times:
>from america sir?
>no sir, from ohio
>oh I don't really know much about ohio, is it _insert opening questions here that derails whatever business you had_
Even if you are from NY, you get the same path if you're not from NYC(with added duhestions about why you don't live in NYC), and god help you if you're from cali because then you get the "so did you ever meet-" even if you're from the fucking north.
Say you're a burger and the convo doesn't take a header into that shit. You're just a burger.
All the anons in this thread are coping contrarians anyway. Their childhoods were filled with nothing but universal american things, be it Pokemon or Baseball or Nickelodeon.
Probably mid-20th century with the rise of patriotism propaganda by the government. People still do identify with their state, especially when it comes to people from other states. Like, many people hate Californians, and will suddenly have a strong state identify when califags move in en mass.
This thread is full of cope. 99% of Americans just identify as Americans and rarely care for "state pride" outside of sports.
Regional pride is probably slightly more prominent e.g Southerners, New Englanders, Upper Midwesterners, but even then its more often than not relegated to second place category behind generalized American identity.
Regional culture is also dying, partly due to the commercialization of it e.g a lot of unique "Southern" culture is now just broadly considered American due to migration and media in the mid 20th century.
Rock and roll is a good example of Southern culture that has been de-regionalized and in fact even de-nationalized as its become a global phenomena, a lot of European kids for example might not even realize rock music originated in America, much less in a specific region of America.
But tbf Euros are dumb so.