>can't inner monologue in parallel & interplay between multiple faculties--imagery, music, kinesthetic, etc. >can't improvise lyric poetry that accords with imagery synesthetically conjured from music, etc.
This either/or meme trash is as tiresome as being told that old joke about chewing gum and walking at the same time 1000 times a day.
That can't be real.
I can't comprehend "thinking" without subvocalization or at least invoking symbols in your minds eye.
How would you evaluate anything at all? You'd just be spouting random bullshit every time.
Does this mean they can't have earworms? They can't imagine music?
What about dreams, surely they still have those? I don't feel much of a difference between thoughts in a dream and thoughts irl.
What a dreadfully dull existence.
This is retarded. You should be able to toggle between thinking in any number of modes, English being only one of many. No one is stupid enough to think in English during a fight or flight situation, and no one is stupid enough to think thought occurring exclusively in English is anything but inefficient.
No, the NPC meme itself stems from a misunderstanding of psychological studies a couple years ago on r9k. Now the NPC meme is just a political tool to dehumanise the average layman. Also your image is completely wrong because it's established many times in the anime that Rei has no thoughts or personality of her own outside of the vaguest questionings of her existence.
> the NPC meme itself stems from a misunderstanding of psychological studies a couple years ago on r9k
No it doesnt you fucking moron the NPC meme has existed since the beginning of time itself. The Greeks called them hylics, they are often known as p zombies in literary/philosophical circles shudra in Hindu etc etc. KYS you fucking retard
>he thinks "meme" and "term" somehow mean the same thing >no one can understand how the mind of someone this retarded works other than the retard themselves >retard calling other people retarded
The NPC meme is real kiddos and can be exposed through reading comprehension.
say something slightly ambiguous, players will ask you to clarify your statement, NPC will just make an incorrect assumption about what they think you are saying based on their personal biases/motives
>It turns out that it is possible to distinguish a zombie from a person. A zombie has a different philosophy. That is the only difference. Therefore, zombies can only be detected if they happen to be philosophers. Dennett is obviously a zombie.
>It turns out that it is possible to distinguish a zombie from a person. A zombie has a different philosophy. That is the only difference. Therefore, zombies can only be detected if they happen to be philosophers. Dennett is obviously a zombie.
Very cool. I've reached the same conclusions years ago and reading someone else explicitly state and argue for them has been very pleasing.
I hate discussions about zombies because if they go on long enough people reveal an ulterior motive that makes me discard their entire argument. There's never a good faith argument about zombies. That's why people get so emotional about this stuff, because their religion/faith/views of the universe underlie it. This thread is just more proof of that.
yah I know where it is you fucking homosexual I made a screenshot of it for you. Do you have legit autism? You could just say thanks I didnt make the fucking thing for me idiot
>"this is dumb"
What you have established with this complaint is one of two things.
1: This line of logic is pedestrian and bores you
2: This line of logic is about you, and you are lashing out
As you can see, we have learned nothing about you by your comment, except that that interpretation automatically implies the second. In communicating nothing, you have effectively communicated meaning you never intended.
Isn't he just saying that computers aren't special, and the idea of a computer is just a human construct? I can't be bothered to read more than halfway through. >inb4 zombie detected
Sociology is another art of lying with statistics and not science, and you should ask somebody like biologist or control circuit designer if NPCs are real.
I don't know if NPCS are real, but sometimes i wonder if they are, look at posts on social networks from morons who say two things that contradict each other and believe them.
Inner monologue theory is fun because most people have verbal thoughts or visual thoughts. A certain percentage of people do NOT have EITHER. While its fine to call them NPC, thats not the real problem of NPC.
NPCs are people who do not have critical thinking. Who do not question the narrative. People who regurgitate word babble without understanding what they're saying. People who parrot words/phrases they hear from other sources. That applies to not just left wing political party but also right wing, and its not just a political domain, it applies to every type of discources. You have the science NPCs who parrot science factoids without understanding what it means. You have the news paper NPCs who parrot whatever news paper prints out. You have the social NPC where they parrot whatever other people are saying. These types of people exists everywhere and behave similarly to a GPT bot. They don't exhibit intelligence but rather behaves like a common house parrot.
Yes it's called having sub 130 IQ
>t. sub 200iq
inner monologue is not a superior way of thinking
Correct. But an adult who can't sit down and put those abstract concepts into words when the situation calls for it is a dum dum
You might read faster by not having inner-dialogue read everything as you go along, but you read better imo.
>can't inner monologue in parallel & interplay between multiple faculties--imagery, music, kinesthetic, etc.
>can't improvise lyric poetry that accords with imagery synesthetically conjured from music, etc.
This either/or meme trash is as tiresome as being told that old joke about chewing gum and walking at the same time 1000 times a day.
toggle-able inner monologue is top tier but having autism sucks
No
yes
That can't be real.
I can't comprehend "thinking" without subvocalization or at least invoking symbols in your minds eye.
How would you evaluate anything at all? You'd just be spouting random bullshit every time.
Except it is real. Some people can't hear their thoughts.
Does this mean they can't have earworms? They can't imagine music?
What about dreams, surely they still have those? I don't feel much of a difference between thoughts in a dream and thoughts irl.
What a dreadfully dull existence.
I shall take this bait.
This is retarded. You should be able to toggle between thinking in any number of modes, English being only one of many. No one is stupid enough to think in English during a fight or flight situation, and no one is stupid enough to think thought occurring exclusively in English is anything but inefficient.
The "bait" was the impetus to engage with the concept as a possibility. You did not take the bait.
woahh....just like my animes......
Misato>Asuka>Rei
Ethos>Pathos>Logos
kys loser animefag
anime website
fuck yes.
America's philosopher is BF Skinner
No, the NPC meme itself stems from a misunderstanding of psychological studies a couple years ago on r9k. Now the NPC meme is just a political tool to dehumanise the average layman. Also your image is completely wrong because it's established many times in the anime that Rei has no thoughts or personality of her own outside of the vaguest questionings of her existence.
> the NPC meme itself stems from a misunderstanding of psychological studies a couple years ago on r9k
No it doesnt you fucking moron the NPC meme has existed since the beginning of time itself. The Greeks called them hylics, they are often known as p zombies in literary/philosophical circles shudra in Hindu etc etc. KYS you fucking retard
>he thinks the video game term NPC has been around for thousand of years before video games were around
full retard
t. an actual npc
>he thinks "meme" and "term" somehow mean the same thing
>no one can understand how the mind of someone this retarded works other than the retard themselves
>retard calling other people retarded
The NPC meme is real kiddos and can be exposed through reading comprehension.
say something slightly ambiguous, players will ask you to clarify your statement, NPC will just make an incorrect assumption about what they think you are saying based on their personal biases/motives
http://www.jaronlanier.com/zombie.html
>It turns out that it is possible to distinguish a zombie from a person. A zombie has a different philosophy. That is the only difference. Therefore, zombies can only be detected if they happen to be philosophers. Dennett is obviously a zombie.
Damn, this is a really good read anon
>http://www.jaronlanier.com/zombie.html
Very cool. I've reached the same conclusions years ago and reading someone else explicitly state and argue for them has been very pleasing.
I hate discussions about zombies because if they go on long enough people reveal an ulterior motive that makes me discard their entire argument. There's never a good faith argument about zombies. That's why people get so emotional about this stuff, because their religion/faith/views of the universe underlie it. This thread is just more proof of that.
yah I know where it is you fucking homosexual I made a screenshot of it for you. Do you have legit autism? You could just say thanks I didnt make the fucking thing for me idiot
I had the text highlighted and it automatically quoted it when I pressed the reply button. No worries.
kek ok my bad for calling you a fag and idiot then
This is spectacularly, painfully dumb. It's the "everyone is is sheelple but me!" joke, but with a hundred times too many words.
why does the NPC seethe when they are exposed
>"this is dumb"
What you have established with this complaint is one of two things.
1: This line of logic is pedestrian and bores you
2: This line of logic is about you, and you are lashing out
As you can see, we have learned nothing about you by your comment, except that that interpretation automatically implies the second. In communicating nothing, you have effectively communicated meaning you never intended.
Isn't he just saying that computers aren't special, and the idea of a computer is just a human construct? I can't be bothered to read more than halfway through.
>inb4 zombie detected
found the hylic
Here's the problem: to be Rei is to live a life of loneliness misery. Unless you're an alpha chad or, if female, didn't tame that chad.
Sociology is another art of lying with statistics and not science, and you should ask somebody like biologist or control circuit designer if NPCs are real.
i read in a book that the term you'd use back in the day were "gods' afflicted creatures". i presume it meant people that only exist by their emotions
>waifus (plural)
normalnaggers neck yourselves
What the fuck is this garbage, none of that shit happened with Rei.
I don't know if NPCS are real, but sometimes i wonder if they are, look at posts on social networks from morons who say two things that contradict each other and believe them.
Yes.
Inner monologue theory is fun because most people have verbal thoughts or visual thoughts. A certain percentage of people do NOT have EITHER. While its fine to call them NPC, thats not the real problem of NPC.
NPCs are people who do not have critical thinking. Who do not question the narrative. People who regurgitate word babble without understanding what they're saying. People who parrot words/phrases they hear from other sources. That applies to not just left wing political party but also right wing, and its not just a political domain, it applies to every type of discources. You have the science NPCs who parrot science factoids without understanding what it means. You have the news paper NPCs who parrot whatever news paper prints out. You have the social NPC where they parrot whatever other people are saying. These types of people exists everywhere and behave similarly to a GPT bot. They don't exhibit intelligence but rather behaves like a common house parrot.