I am in the market for a big, full size sedan. I always liked the look of these but I owned a 2014 Focus with the shitty automatic and now I am hesitant towards anything Ford. I know these got taken over by SUVs and crossovers but I don't really need one of those. Are these a safe buy or should I buck up and pay the Toyota tax for an Avalon?
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Yeah they last they have good drivetrains like the non turbo 3.5 and 3.7
These and really most “modern full-size” are very small on the inside. If you’re okay with a midsize that isn’t stuck with a poor cylinder then this isn’t a terrible choice. Seeing as you’re looking at front wheel drive biased you’re probably not worried about performance.
Try it out, the center console is huge though.
>buy this for at most 1/2 the price of any Taurus
>manual swap it with a junkyard Mustang tranny
you said you wanted big and full size, not fast, not fun, not powerful, not fuel efficient, not modern
Ok but why not a Lincoln Town Car at that point? It's more car for the same money.
>for the same money
They actually sell for a few grand more
These have a normal auto and not a dct like the focus
80s b body
Why wouldn't you just try to get a late 2000s panther platform car for cheaper? Do you just prefer front wheel drive?
Either get a panther, or get an avalon. My buddy has an Avalon, and I'm not a big fan of fwd and it's pretty slow for a v6, but I'll be damned if it ain't comfy
>it's pretty slow for a v6, but I'll be damned if it ain't comfy
That's really what I'm after, I would like a nice, soft, smooth, spacious ride in a sedan form factor. I don't have much of an interest in track performance or whatever.
If they've been well-maintained, I've seen them go 200K+ miles. If they've been driven by typical semi-conscious American consoomer and indifferently maintained, not so much.
On higher-mileage examples, watch for coolant leaking from the weep-hole at the front (curb-side) of the engine. The water pump on the 3.5l V6 is internal and costs $1500 to replace, but if not replaced promptly it will destroy the engine.
Which car would give me the image of a man who allows himself to be beaten by women, earns less money than his female colleagues, works in a profession more appropriate to women and has a very successful woman as his boss?
Reasons why Honda Fit is the SUV/Crossover that would give me the image I'm looking for?
Take it back, nagger.
Put your mouth on my cock and make me.
Alternatively, you could go the "compensating for something" path, and buy the biggest diesel-powered pickup truck you can afford.
Why an ecosport the car I'm looking for and what would give me the image of a man inferior to women?
Toyota Prius works well in that regard as well, especially if it's an older, used model.
It's a ford small suv/crossover monstrosity. Only a woman with absolutely no knowledge about cars could appreciate it.
Priuses are based if you are looking for fuel efficiency and top reliability.
Reasons why the Prius is the car that would give me the image I'm looking for?
Because it clearly indicates someone who is not only cucked by their coworkers, but cucked by the eco-mentalists that anyone with an ounce of self-esteem doesn't even bother listening to.
I delivered pizzas in a 2015 Taurus Limited with 53k miles and traded it at 110k miles. I only traded it because I got a new much higher-paying job and with that wanted something sportier. If you can afford it, get the SHO. Just know the SHOs have transaxle issues with it being AWD instead of FWD. And as someone else pointed out, you must be mindful of the water pump. I had the mechanic do a fluid check every now and then to make sure it was in good shape. It still was operational when I sold it. Only ever did usual maintenance such as oil, brakes, and tires. I picked mine up right before shit hit the fan with used car prices at $14k and traded it for $8k after 2 years. Also, even though these are classified as full-sized, the interior is more like mid-size and actually has the same dimensions as the Fusion. I didn't care though. The trunk was roomy af, it had cooled seats that worked pretty well I think and I got compliments from customers. Also, get the 2016 since that was the best year these came out in. It has the better Sync 3 and has the most features. After 2016, they started removing features.
Oh, I forgot. It did have the backup camera go out. Ford didn't seal them well enough so water gets to them and shorts them out. And, you have to go to the dealer to buy one at like $500 iirc. So, if you find one with a working camera, find a way to seal it properly.
They also stopped making the Taurus after the 2019 model year.
>full sized sedan
It is midsized.
So offer full size sedan suggestions.
F-150 crew cab
I own 4 panthers. 3 of them retired long wheelbase NYC Taxi yellow cabs with 400k on them. Tanks. Would never own anything else aside from 80s and 90s Chevy Caprice.
All “fullsize” sedans over the past 20 years minus the CV and platform mates are midsize at best.
There’s a reason trucks sell so well, it’s the only segment left where you can get a full-size.
I know a guy that got an 18 Passat. Comfortable ride, nice car. It's a wolfsburg though if it matters. Might want to look into a used passat. Will be more expensive than a beat to shit taurus though.