According to Nafziger's "The End of Empire: Napoleon's 1814 Campaign," the Gribeauval cannons in question were still widely used in the aforementioned campaign.
To put the bulk of your argument on the French supposedly using captured cannons after suffering a massive military defeat at Leipzig is silly especially since more of those captured cannons were Austrian rather than Prussian.
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Anonymous
They were iron gireuval cannons as I showed. Does your source seriously claim there was no iron?
Hey Mark Ingraham why do you want to rape kids?
>calls me gay >calls me a heterosexual pedophile
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're fixated on not only color but also any exception you that can possibly be mustered compared to the rule because you grasp at every clump of cotton you can like the Black person you are. I bet you think this picture isn't of a bronze cannon, either, because it isn't a copper color.
Back to reality, it's worth noting the same army that was victorious in the Six-Day Campaign was well known for utilizing those same bronze Gribeauval 8-pounders during the later battle of Montereau.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That is bronze, it is a different color. Well done jidf.
Anyway you responded to nothing so you still fail. Bronze never wins.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oh I think your misunderstanding is you think copper is always copper. Copper rusts green.
Iron rusts red.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>IQfy is one person
From jidfs own source. I swear, jidf is Goddam moronic. Bronze isn't even the majority of the cannons.
I think jidf has officially given up, thread dies, op wins.
>French iron 24-pounder. A faint engraving along the top of the gun seems to indicate, as do the overall dimensions, that this is a French 24-pounder cannon. Although the French also had a larger 36-pounder iron cannon in service, the 24-pounder was the largest in use on land during the 18th century. The lack of any further markings make it difficult to determine the exact date it was cast or the foundry in which this cannon was made, although it is likely it was made for the marine department. This cannon was donated to Fort Ticonderoga in February, 1930 President José María Moncada of Nicaragua. It had been mounted at Fort San Carlos on the southeastern side of Lake Nicaragua.
Napoleon wasn't hauling around a gun made for the marine department during the Six-Days Campaign. The majority of 24 pounders were bronze, anyways, as can be seen from the following image.
Bronze is a better material for making cannons, anyways, which is why the French standardized their system as such. Even during the American Civil War, where versions of the Napoleonic 12-Pounder were being used, only the blockaded and economically insufficient Confederacy resorted to using iron after supply their bronze was cut off.
This is an example 24 pounder produced under Napoleon's XI system, cast for the maritime nationale as they typically were, despite your attempt to hide that part of the text like the liar you are, and given how 24 pounders weren't being hauled around for the decisive battles against opposing armies requiring fast movement which Napoleon was known for due to their weight - keep in mind one of the advantages of bronze cannons is that they're lighter than iron counterparts making bronze cannons a mainstay of Napoleon's armies.
Nevertheless, notice how this cannon intended for the marine department is once again bronze.
>nooo this doesn’t fit with my moronic worldview therefore it’s le fake
I hope the next time the cops arrest you they make sure you’re in the can for good
The naval cannons are less iron because corrosion.
>the pedo finally admits he’s in the wrong
So you admit whoever won a naval battle back in the day won them with bronze cannons?
Top runners:
Pavia, because king died.
Marathon, because the myth of infantry surviving archers.
Isan/Beersheba/bighorn (only ones)
Any battle where Wikipedia doesn't record numbers so jidf can act moronic.
Man Yang pass because colonials surrendered.
Bulgarian quick fire guns.
Jidf hasn't tried any naval battles yet.
police with bronze badges won their battle against this pedophile with his iron weapons
Jfl.
France had iron.
The Vallière system, the Gribeauval system, and Valée system all utilized bronze cannons, Black person.
They never had a iron system but they had iron cannons anyway. The monument to the French Revolution has a iron cannon that was there.
Frick your monument. France had the first standardized set of artillery across Europe since the Vallière system.
Here is an example of a Gribeauval-style cannon which were still widely used through the Napoleonic Wars.
https://fortticonderoga.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/9470E7A6-C79D-4C54-8D49-273859315440
Literally labeled a "French Bronze 8-pounder."
According to Nafziger's "The End of Empire: Napoleon's 1814 Campaign," the Gribeauval cannons in question were still widely used in the aforementioned campaign.
To put the bulk of your argument on the French supposedly using captured cannons after suffering a massive military defeat at Leipzig is silly especially since more of those captured cannons were Austrian rather than Prussian.
They were iron gireuval cannons as I showed. Does your source seriously claim there was no iron?
>calls me gay
>calls me a heterosexual pedophile
You're fixated on not only color but also any exception you that can possibly be mustered compared to the rule because you grasp at every clump of cotton you can like the Black person you are. I bet you think this picture isn't of a bronze cannon, either, because it isn't a copper color.
Back to reality, it's worth noting the same army that was victorious in the Six-Day Campaign was well known for utilizing those same bronze Gribeauval 8-pounders during the later battle of Montereau.
That is bronze, it is a different color. Well done jidf.
Anyway you responded to nothing so you still fail. Bronze never wins.
Oh I think your misunderstanding is you think copper is always copper. Copper rusts green.
Iron rusts red.
>IQfy is one person
>muh jidf
Not an argument
Wonderful work jidf.
I guess bronze never wins.
As always jidf gives one futile reply and abandons the thread, never finding bronze winning.
Dark color aka iron. Bronze is a copper color or is painted.
Hey Mark Ingraham why do you want to rape kids?
From jidfs own source. I swear, jidf is Goddam moronic. Bronze isn't even the majority of the cannons.
Post the full text, moron.
>French iron 24-pounder. A faint engraving along the top of the gun seems to indicate, as do the overall dimensions, that this is a French 24-pounder cannon. Although the French also had a larger 36-pounder iron cannon in service, the 24-pounder was the largest in use on land during the 18th century. The lack of any further markings make it difficult to determine the exact date it was cast or the foundry in which this cannon was made, although it is likely it was made for the marine department. This cannon was donated to Fort Ticonderoga in February, 1930 President José María Moncada of Nicaragua. It had been mounted at Fort San Carlos on the southeastern side of Lake Nicaragua.
Napoleon wasn't hauling around a gun made for the marine department during the Six-Days Campaign. The majority of 24 pounders were bronze, anyways, as can be seen from the following image.
Bronze is a better material for making cannons, anyways, which is why the French standardized their system as such. Even during the American Civil War, where versions of the Napoleonic 12-Pounder were being used, only the blockaded and economically insufficient Confederacy resorted to using iron after supply their bronze was cut off.
>The majority of 24 pounders were bronze, anyways, as can be seen from the following image.
That's completely made up.
This is an example 24 pounder produced under Napoleon's XI system, cast for the maritime nationale as they typically were, despite your attempt to hide that part of the text like the liar you are, and given how 24 pounders weren't being hauled around for the decisive battles against opposing armies requiring fast movement which Napoleon was known for due to their weight - keep in mind one of the advantages of bronze cannons is that they're lighter than iron counterparts making bronze cannons a mainstay of Napoleon's armies.
Nevertheless, notice how this cannon intended for the marine department is once again bronze.
https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-2909.html
The naval cannons are less iron because corrosion.
Concession accepted. I'm glad you agree any iron 24 pound cannon is an anomaly.
Well done jidf, your post is barely readable.
Being a Black person must be hard. Maybe this site will help you read better in the future.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/
Wonderful reply jidf. You'll give one more reply and the thread will die, with no bronze winning.
>nooo this doesn’t fit with my moronic worldview therefore it’s le fake
I hope the next time the cops arrest you they make sure you’re in the can for good
>the pedo finally admits he’s in the wrong
So you admit whoever won a naval battle back in the day won them with bronze cannons?
Did they? When?
I think jidf has officially given up, thread dies, op wins.
The thread dies now, jidf runs from the field of battle.
battle of isandlwana
Top runners:
Pavia, because king died.
Marathon, because the myth of infantry surviving archers.
Isan/Beersheba/bighorn (only ones)
Any battle where Wikipedia doesn't record numbers so jidf can act moronic.
Man Yang pass because colonials surrendered.
Bulgarian quick fire guns.
Jidf hasn't tried any naval battles yet.
The bronze issue would be mostly England and Sweden, and they had good navies so I'm waiting for jidf.
For navies I would throw in some factors:
Persians
Tonnage
Then other than that the only factor is range.