I tied fighting hard to escape hell, I did come close, but every time I started getting better God decided to make it even more miserable. And lately he gave his final strike with a chronic illness at 24 years of age lol. I was wondering how can I make peace with god before killing myself? I don't want to burn in hell, as well as I am afraid I might get reincarnated in the same life in an infinite loop. I prefer ceasing to exist tbh, I am really close to doing it, but I am really afraid what is after death...
Only way to make peace with God is to pass your tests. Those things that made it worse are the tests.
The question is, do you know, or can you figure out the right answers? And then beyond that, do you have the will to enact the correct answers?
Killing yourself will likely end in a loop.
Mm yeah I love having arthritis before I even hit 30's mm yeah GOD's tests more chronic illness my beloved lord yeah give me more mental and physical illness he is such a silly tester AHAH
he can just heal your arthritis. hes healed crazier stuff all the time.
I have a worse condition than that, I don't know what to tell you dude. If you want any kind of peace, mockery will get you nowhere.
And what kind of peace do you find in your condition heh? Do you have a female companionship in your difficult time? Do other men respect you for being a loser due to being disabled? What is your source of happiness eh?
Your questions are irrelevant to helping you, which is how I pleasantly distract myself from my own tests. Please focus on the more important topic, your life. 🙂
You are patronizing and your advice is colored by desperate coping with your own life. Why don't you just admit that it's difficult to find peace with a chronic condition, that many doors are now closed to OP, and that he has been dealt a significant blow that may not have any real upside?
I'm chronically ill too, for four years now. It has sucked and has had NO upside.
I'm don't necessarily think OP should kill himself. He certainly shouldn't if it's an impulsive decision, if it isn't something he's been resolved to do for a long time (1yr plus). But I don't like copes like yours.
>You are patronizing
Listen dude, just because you arent creative enough to come up with a lesson about your suffering doesn't mean everyone else is as uncreative as you.
You're so bitter you probably wont even do it as a fun exercise.
You need to spend less time whining and more time thinking.
Can't tell if you highlighted the part where I called you patronizing right before being extremely patronizing as a joke or not.
The lesson I've learned from my suffering is that I'm unlucky and that there are other ppl in the world who are unlucky like I am. At least I have the consolation that I am not so mentally deficient that I cant help but rationalize why something bad is actually good. Normalhomosexual.
Someone being in a position to give you advice means they are inherently in a better position than you. I don't go to a teacher and get butt hurt that he gives me advice that comes from a place of authority that's higher than my own.
The "rationalization" is how you turn negative experience Into something you can grow from. It's a valuable skill that you refuse to learn because of your ego. I don't matter at all in this equation but you want to use your perception of me as a big meanie normie who can't possibly understand to discard my advice.
I'm not going to suck you off to get you to listen. Go suffer more if you want to. What you do with my advice is your problem alone
A 16yo wrote this post
>noooo you can't be a big meanie on LULZ when you give advice
>you have to talk to me like you're my mommy and wuv me and nuzzle my ego while I discredit you and invalidate everything you stand for and project people I don't like onto you
Well I simply won't do that. Again, enjoy suffering.
I don't think you've ever genuinely suffered
You're not being mean you're just coming across like a sheltered buffoon
That's right anon. Only you have suffered. No one is more of a victim than you.
You're in the looney bin acusing other people of not being crazy. Where do you think you are you fucking retard? We wouldn't be here if we had it all together.
Sure. Some problems don't have solutions but if you act fatalistic about literally everything, you have a foot in the grave and you don't even know why, nor will you acknowledge it.
I'm done talking with you. I won't hurl further abuse at a suicidal person.
god doesn't seem to let guys have sex until they are in their 30s. you should look up how many people have claimed god has healed their illness, its a ton of people. but its not scientific and there isnt any proof, so you wont usually hear about it in the news.
>I don't want to burn in hell
suicide is a sin if you believe in that sort of thing
You hate life so therefore you hate God, believing that God's purpose is to make your life comfortable is ridiculously childish, God is the progenitor of all suffering, because God is life, and life is suffering, but life is all the good things too, you have to understand this if you want peace in this world or the next. I don't think you should kill yourself, fren, gamble on what the tide may bring you tomorrow.
Incoherent gobbledyasiatic. "Uh...le God wants us to suffer...but suffering is good...cause...uh...God is...good...and also totally exists...because...He just does ok!?"
You are afraid to accept the simple fact that there is pointless suffering. It is indeed a hard thing to accept. Certainly suffering can temper us and it can make us profound. There is also the wild and frantic suffering of the child whose father drunkenly beats him senseless most nights until one time he gets too carried away and kills him. There is the suffering of the elderly woman who no longer knows who she is, who is locked in a nursing home, unable even to walk, aching all over, covered in bedsores, assailed night and day by white-clad apparitions holding her down to bed and forcing medicine down her throat.
Suffering generally makes us *worse*. If you doubt that, look at the outcomes for children who experience adversity early in life.
>life is suffering, but life is all the good things too
I don't know what those good things are anymore. I have no friends, will never had a girlfriend again, I barely talk with my parents, I spend my days always alone, sleeping, I have a severe mental illness that makes my life a nightmare... when I go out I'm always alone and all people around me with friends and girlfriends... I don't know man, it's becoming difficult for me to see the little good things about life. There still are instant pleasures like taking a hot shower or eating something tasteful but you can't live just with that.
All the pain you feel is proof your heart still works, atleast you aren't apathetic! You have the courage to feel pain and that's not nothing. Why do you have to be so hard on yourself? Why can't a hot shower or a warm meal fill you up, just for now, for just the night atleast? Know that though I don't know you, I would feel sad if you were no longer on this planet with me, I wish the world were populated with more people like you, and I hope the best for you, Anon.
there is no hell + there is no god
cope
you're just spoiled
How Come U Tryna Be Killin Your Self N Shit Bruh?? Dont Do It Nigga Fr... Tf Been Goin On Dat Got You So Sad Bruh?
OP, suicide is a sin. I won't sugar coat it. it is a rejection of the life God has given, known in older times as "Self Murder" for a reason. I honestly couldn't tell you how you would be judged with your last act being that of sin.
Are you saved? Have you asked the Lord Jesus into your heart? If so, you MUST endure. God has given us all tests. I myself am in the midst of my own. the urge to quit, let despair take me, is powerful most times. regardless, we, as children of God, must persevere. Even if we take a secular approach to life, there is Valor in the struggle of existence. to fight to the end no matter what. Whether you fight against the dying of the light for yourself or to honor the gift many of us have had taken from us unwillingly, our place as living creatures is to struggle for struggle's sake.
I won't tell you to not to go through with it, but reconsider if you really do believe in God. He would have us struggle valiantly and continue onward. You can kneel and accept your death, or you can rage, fight, and burn brilliantly until you can burn no longer.
lastly, if youre gonna do it anyway, perhaps you can get a couple good marks by lending a helping hand on your way out. I myself am in need of cash. my cash app is
$VesperKid
Disgusting.
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Before I started hovering above rock bottom I would have said the same. Staring this shit in the face and having spent the last couple weeks unable to sleep because I'm so worried about finances, I honestly don't give a shit. If I could kill a baby without getting caught and get payed enough, I'd probably do it...... I'd also like to say, but who knows until they're facing that decision? I'm desperate.
is there no one you love? no one who loves you or needs you? think about what you may be abandoning; think about the future that you could have if you work a little harder. You don't have to die, man.
What kind of chronic illness? Everytime I hear that term the person is a mental hypochondriac type and most of their symptoms originate in their minds but they attribute it to Lyme disease or fibromyalgia or some other invisible illness
Curious as to what you mean by this. Just because the symptoms of an illness "originate in the mind" do not make them any less real. The cause of fibromyalgia is unclear, but it could be considered a pain processing disorder, where the nervous system is dialed up to the point where interprets anodyne sensations as painful. That problem could be said to originate in the mind, and it certainly is invisible. But that doesn't mean that illness is worth writing off or scoffing at.
>invisible illness
Fucking kill yourself and your whore mother you fucking retard. Research has made great progress in the last years, fibromyalgia is 100% NOT "IN YOUR HEAD". It is a multifactorial syndrome that for most people is largely of autoimmune origin, and there ARE markers it just happens most pieces of shit doctors attribute basically everything to "le anxiety".
lmao found the fags milking fake sicknesses
>I don't feel good everrrrr I can't do anything for myselfffff
Stop being lazy and taking advantage of the people that care about you!
DocTURD's inability to find the cause does not make them a hypochondriac.
Considering you haven't even made peace with God yet, I don't think you're ready for 'Final Suicide Preparations'. If you do have faith in God and truly believe in what the bible says you are definitely going to hell if you do it. This is mentioned a lot in scripture and there is no getting around it.
Making peace with God would mean that you no longer want to kill yourself, you can't make peace and then kill yourself. Either you renounce your faith (which I don't recommend, most would find it hard to just stop believing on a dime) or use the bible to try and find peace in God. 1st & 2nd Corinthians speak against suicide, Psalms might help with the more emotional aspects of hopelessness and grief, and considering you now have a chronic illness I would highly recommend giving Job a look.
Considering you have some sort of faith in God you are actually in better shape than most in similar situations. For fucking sure better than most of the hopeless and godless people on this board. The Bible is really fucking long and basically covers everything that a typical person could imagine, after all, it was penned by God himself so I'd recommend doing some exegesis before condemning yourself. If you're most concerned with making peace with God, killing yourself is ABSOLUTELY NOT AN OPTION.
Also, apologies if you are not referring to the Christian God, if that's the case though I think you should be more specific on where your beliefs are before asking for spiritual advice.
>If you're most concerned with making peace with God, killing yourself is ABSOLUTELY NOT AN OPTION
It's not true. There are many reasons why someone would kill themselves. Like for example, if they didn't enjoy life. Even though suicide may be a sin, it's not a sin to dislike being alive. when the time comes for you to be judged God will know what's in your heart. He already does and he knows the pain and suffering that we go through day after day. do you mean to tell me that God would send a mentally ill person to hell for killing themselves?
There is a lot to unpack here but here we go,
>> Like for example, if they didn't enjoy life.
Job 28:19-29:2
-It's not up to you to determine whether or not your life is worth living, nothing on earth nor anything we can comprehend can tell us if our life is enjoyable enough to continue living. It doesn't matter if you personally don't enjoy life, God wills you to live, and in him, there are endless reasons to live. Saying something like this is just selfish.
>> Even though suicide may be a sin, it's not a sin to dislike being alive.
Yes, it isn't a sin to be unhappy but that is not the point here, Anon wants to kill himself and that is what is a sin, and will damn him to an afterlife without god. If someone kills your spouse it is not a sin to have righteous anger towards that who killed them, they have committed a grave sin against god, but if you go and kill them because of it it doesn't make you any less guilty of sin.
>>when the time comes for you to be judged God will know what's in your heart.
Yes and God is very good at seeing into people's hearts, and if Anon kills himself then he will see that he unfortunately did not have faith in God. Unless you are Catholic or something salvation comes only from faith in the gospel. And you know what the gospel says? Suicide is bad and those who partake in it are defying God's will and will not live in paradise.
>>He already does and he knows the pain and suffering that we go through day after day.
Yes God knows all and knows your suffering, but God doesn't show mercy by saying "Oh well he's had a tough life, we'll let him into heaven", he shows mercy by empowering us with his word through the Bible. Everything to deal with that suffering is in God's word and killing yourself is not one of those things.
>>do you mean to tell me that God would send a mentally ill person to hell for killing themselves?
I do not know but God works in ways that we can never understand and sees things that we do not see.
>If someone kills your spouse it is not a sin to have righteous anger towards that who killed them, they have committed a grave sin against god, but if you go and kill them because of it it doesn't make you any less guilty of sin.
100% certified cuck
>chronic illness at 24 years of age lol
What is it?
Arthritis confirmed by MRI
listen jesus already died for our sins. You have already been forgiven for all of your sins past present and future. all you have to do is have faith that jesus will save you, which he will, and he will accept you with open arms. You want to make peace? confess your sins right now. Talk to God right now and let everything out. you will be heard.
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Again, non of that is real. Why is it common sense to not believe in ghosts, wizards and witches, but when it comes to God, heaven and hell your brains close-circuits.
>Magic isn't real but this is different. Religion is true because bible says so
God probably doesn't give a fuck about you and nothing you'll do matters to him
t. 23 lvl neet with stomach ulcers
how bad is your arthritis? maybe we can swap diseases.
It's just beginning I think with a fucked up shoulder maybe it's going to be in only one joint who knows. I have other medical problems from a young age too such as permanent tinnitus from fuck know what. I guess when you are a genetical abomination they come together. Tbh I just started fixing my life and it was getting better until I kept developing more and more problems
A few times a month, my head hurts near my right ear. I went to a doctor, to a laryngologist and i had this head scan when they put you in a large tube
guess what? no answer. i guess i was just born to suffer.
OP I'm sorry to tell you that your speculations about the afterlife are indeed closer to the truth.
Suicide is a cope, you think we get off THAT easy? Everything just goes lights out and it's all over? Kek. Yeah if only.
anon, this is a mega retarded thing to do. ok, you have a chronic illness... so what? tons of people have chronic illnesses. i see that you worry about other men disrespecting you for being disabled but the kind of man you want to be is someone who is above that - why should you give a shit what they think about you? if they don't respect you, don't spend your time around them, or else make them respect you in other ways. if you're depressed, there's ways to fix it. suicide is a solution to the desire of wanting to escape what you believe to be an uncircumventable situation, the desire to escape it but seeing no other options. i should know, i've been suicidal many times in my life. the thing is, 99.9% of situations are manageable but you end up catastrophizing so much you think there is no other choice.
that god and hell or reincarnation shit is dumb regardless if you are religious or not - god, the universe, deity or deities care about you and want you to live a good life. and you can, anon. and you will.
what is exactly making you so suicidal and lets figure out how to fix it together
Not OP but I am genuinely too ugly to live. Not in a meme way but legitimately. Because of it I can't socialize, people despise me before I even open my mouth and I'll never be able to find a girlfriend or start a family. I am a walking lolcow of a human being. What the fuck other options are there other than suffering for another 30-40 years until my body gives out?
let's argue for the sake of brevity that you are truly that ugly;
in terms of making connections, you could practice via voice chat in some kind of group online without having to show your face, especially if it is a small group. you could make friends via videogames via voice chat, via something like omegle, soc, just looking for friends and to practice socializing. you could also learn another language and that could help force you to practice socializing, you wouldn't even have to necessarily show your face. now, if you don't care about showing your face, you can do all that and more to meet people.
second, do you like animals? animals don't typically give a shit what you look like - if you like animals, or even just one type of animal, that is a form of companionship. you could volunteer at a shelter, or adopt a pet, or do some other kind of work involving animals.
three, talking to a therapist can be helpful but you need to find one you connect with, especially if they specialize in helping people with social anxiety or socialization issues.
four, do you have any passions? do you like to read? music? draw? code? photography? cook? find a passion and bring it into your life. just because you might be ugly does not make you unable to create or make beautiful things.
five, accepting your ugliness can be helpful. meditating, accepting it, going through grief. but also remember you might just may have body dysmorphia - which can happen even if you are genuinely ugly or not, but it can make it much worse.
six - arranged marriages are still a thing. adoption is still a thing. have you thought about trying to be a big brother/sister and do a mentoring program?
basically the thing is you have to learn to not give a fuck, to be ok that you might fail at things and to keep trying. also... to learn to accept the loneliness and pain, because you are the only one you can reliably count on in the end anyway, so you have to learn to love yourself. pt 1
I'm am very drunk and sleep depreived ad can barely see the screen but thank you for responding at such length. So much of this is shit that im aware I need to do but refuswe to even try because it feels like I'm coping and wasting my time. Maybe I am, but fuck it I have enothing left to lose at this point. Saving these posts and I will look at them again tomorrow. Thakn you again kind anon
when you have nothing to lose, then you have everything to gain. i believe in you anon, sleep tight
who else will love you if you don't love yourself first? and i don't mean the dumb shit about 'you can't love others if you don't love yourself', but life will be easier when you begin to treat yourself with respect and kindness.
it really depends on what YOU want anon, and what you feel like is lacking in your life. what do you want to change? i get moments of fear and anxiety and dread and worry and catastrophizing myself... i often feel very isolated and alone, but then i remind myself, if i want to, i could talk to someone online. i could make baby steps toward a goal that i want so i can reach others, or get better at something i want to do.
so what is it that you want, ultimately? if you are so ugly that you make babies cry, then why should you worry about if people despise you or hate you or dislike you if you think it is inevitable? you might surprise yourself when you learn not to care about how others feel about you, because people might enjoy your presence more than you think. you just have to find the right people.
with time and patience, with reflection and understanding, you can be whoever you want to be. i mean this genuinely and with all sincerity
hell and reincarnation are made up concepts
25 year old with chronic pain and unrelated chronic condition both are debilitating physically and emotionally (one involves hair loss) here
Don't do it man.
Maybe god will forgive you but most likely there is someone who loves you and they will never be the same. And, if there isn't, you gotta believe that there will be. And, even if there never is. Life is beautiful even in the most mundane moments. There is something natural and mystical about even the most artificial seeming situations. To be alive is a gift, a lot of suicide survivors will attest to feeling this at the moment of their decision. It's never worth giving up man.
Fight da good fight. Stay strong OP.
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>Life is beautiful even in the most mundane moments. There
Like what for example? Waking up at 16:00 another day alone and bored of everything as everyday?
its cool man not everybody makes it. not even the majority does, really. ill be where you are in a couple years im sure. finally come to realize the futility of struggling to make ends meet until i collapse from a stroke or heart failure.
>I do things that affects my life, but everything wrong that happens is not me to blame somehow
Grow up, retard.
Give me all your money before you do it.