Fact. C was the first high level language. Fact. Unix is was the first OS written entirely in a high level language. Fact.

Fact. C was the first high level language
Fact. Unix is was the first OS written entirely in a high level language
Fact. Both are old as shit and insecure

This leads to the following

Fact. We need to replace C with Rust, and Unix with something better (Windows NT written in Rust maybe?)

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want to make another VMS clone?
    At least start from something with a good design like BeOS.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fact. the wheel was the first innivation for transporting goods long distances over land.

    fact. the wheel is also old and unstable as shit (you need four of them and also it can't go up stairs???).

    we need to replace the wheel with something newer and better (bipedal, or anti-gravity perhaps?)

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >replace ... Unix with something better
    sure
    >Windows NT
    ok no. no

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fact: NT is shit
    Fact: C is based
    Fact: UNIX is based
    Fact: You Will Never Be A Woman

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tranny ricer OS is based
      >calls others trannies
      pottery

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >rust
        >trannies
        Oh wait.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >replace ... Unix with something better
      sure
      >Windows NT
      ok no. no

      the only reason you unixtranny faakhead think that NT is bad is because it's attached to the "windows" tumor

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dilate Ntranny
        YWNBAOS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >aaa faaking LULZ eedeeot
        hey Xah. nice trip to vegas

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You Will Never Be A Woman
      This is only an insult against failed men like yourself. To non-losers, it's like "you will never roll in dogshit and broken glass".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        >Wants to become a woman
        >Calling other men "failed men"

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >C was the first high level language
    Hilariously wrong. LISP was the first high level language, by about 20 years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fortran and Algol say hello

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lisp is older than algol.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          made the same year, LISP's design wasn't made public until 1960.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    get in here

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  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >C was the first high level language
    So Fortran and Lisp are not high level?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Unix with something better
    ok. how bout Linux

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still don't get why trannies are so scared of C.
    Just learn it and actual code

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fact. C was the first high level language
    False. Fortran was the first one in 1957.

    >Fact. Unix is was the first OS written entirely in a high level language
    False. Burroughs MCP was the first one, written in ESPOL in 1961.

    >Fact. We need to replace C with Rust, and Unix with something better (Windows NT written in Rust maybe?)
    Unix should be replaced with a zero-kernel operating system.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >zero-kernel
      This sounds genuinely interesting, how would it work? Self-managed services plus IPC? How would you achieve security or distribute system resources in an OS like that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Nintendo 3DS/Switch OS comes to mind.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zero Kernel OS
      How would that even work
      Redpill me LULZ bro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta, but the basic ideas being explored right now are using hardware-based security tagging to manage access privileges. you attach labels to words in memory and they carry security information rather than relying on the ring model to handle privileges.
        https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/129858
        https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6480455

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You realize that high level language doesn't mean it's good? Actually usually the opposite.
    A LISP wizard can get better performance out of LISP than a anyone from C for example.
    The benefits are literally all learning and time/money related. Dumber people can do shit quicker for cheaper, all companies care about. Meanwhile performance goes down the toilet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Meanwhile performance goes down the toilet.
      >C

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Compared to manually optimized ASM or even LISP? Yep.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How fast was Genera compared to UNIX?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pointless question; they ran on entirely separate hardware, but the VAX eventually caught up to the performance of LispMs and they booted up faster since Unix offers basically nothing in comparison to Genera

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who writes LISP in all caps in 2022 doesn't actually write Lisp.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably just a bitter rold boomer mad that the world passed him and that his skills are useless.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Common Lisp can reach performance parity with C if you specify types and do (declare (optimize (speed 3) (safety 0))) and don't do anything stupid like using lists instead of arrays where you can use arrays, but I doubt you can go faster than C on LLVM. With older C compilers it was definitely possible, as Didier Verna demonstrated in a paper a long time ago: http://www.iaeng.org/IJCS/issues_v32/issue_4/IJCS_32_4_19.pdf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >setting safety to 0
      retarded idea and isnt necessary at all unless you're comparing common lisp code to C code without any sort of runtime checks for bounds, null pointers, etc.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retarded idea and isnt necessary at all unless you're comparing common lisp code to C code without any sort of runtime checks for bounds, null pointers, etc.
        No, CL compilers generally add runtime type-checking that goes way beyond bounds or NULL checking.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not if the compiler can prove the paths leading to errors are dead paths. That's why you add good types to your arguments. Compare the following:

          (defun foo (x) (declare (type fixnum x) (optimize speed)) (the fixnum (- x 2))) ;=> generates type check

          (defun bar (x) (declare (type (unsigned-byte 8) x) (optimize speed)) (the fixnum (- x 2))) ;=> no typecheck

          disassemble both examples in SBCL; the latter will be equivalent to like two lines of assembler (after removing the function prolog/epilogue) since the compiler can prove you won't ever produe a bignum

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fact. You will never be a woman.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fact. C was the first high level language
    >Fact. Unix is was the first OS written entirely in a high level language
    These are both false. You have to be a Ctranny lying to make Rustchads look stupid while also making C and Unix look good to people who don't know any better.

    >Fact. Both are old as shit and insecure
    >Fact. We need to replace C with Rust, and Unix with something better (Windows NT written in Rust maybe?)
    These are true.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The retardation ITT is top notch.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We need to replace C with Rust, and Unix with something better
    Get to it then.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FACT: OP sucks cocks for a living.

    It's got more basis in fact than what OP says; it says "FACT" in capital letters and that's gotta be double true!

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what’s wrong with something being old if it’s good and reliable? would you replace your old german made tools with new chinese shit? would you disown your old parents and go looking around for newer parents?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what’s wrong with something being old if it’s good and reliable?
      Because C is not good or reliable. Something that wasn't good and reliable when it was new doesn't suddenly become good and reliable because it's old.
      >would you replace your old german made tools with new chinese shit? would you disown your old parents and go looking around for newer parents?
      This describes older languages being replaced with C. C was worse and less reliable than older languages. C was worse and less reliable than newer languages. It wasn't meant to be used for important software the way it is, it was meant to run Space Travel on a PDP-11.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in what ways is c not good or reliable? works on my machine

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          your machine with 500 memory-related CVEs in it?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [s]name?[/s]

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Fact Fortran and Cobol were the first high level languages
    Fact all major old and current OSes were/are written in C
    Fact all works well and fine you just live in a fake problem
    Fact C++ exists and it solved most of the problems and is better than Rust
    Fact Windows is written in C++ and C
    Fact you're a dumb homosexual.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      (checked)
      /thread
      Rust is a language trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. It's been like 10 years and it hasn't caught on, nor will it ever because people with jobs and plan on actually being productive with their code (i.e. have code that isn't dogshit slow) use languages that matter like C, C++, Fortran or any language that's a wrapper for the above mentioned. Even Brainfuck has more of a purpose for existing than Rust.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    retard alert

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe you should say VMS instead of NT so people don't think you're a retard fucktard

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