Existence of God Thread

>Does God exist?
God = Supreme being that is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient and everlasting. Doesn't have to be christian God, it can be any that fits the description.
Theists, prove why he exists. Atheists prove why he doesn't or can't.

>Burden of Proof Bullshit
If your atheist and you bitch about how the BoP is on theists, go be an agnostic. Atheism is "God isn't real", thats a claim now back it up. If your a theist and you bitch about of BoP is on atheism since religion has been around forever every every single theologian will roll in there grave.

>My take
In our universe something must come from nothing.
Universe must come from somewhere outside of this universe
Universe must have come form God.
Basically slightly modified Kaplan Cosmological proof.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No proof + obviously made-up = not real

    Or else you're agnostic about a teapot behind Mars

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russell
      holy fuck i hate anglos so goddamn much blood is excreting from my every orofice
      >But an objection will undoubtedly be raised here: Is it possible to go beyond nature? We do not hesitate to answer plainly: Not only is it possible, but it is a fact. Again it might be said, is this not merely an assertion; what proofs thereof can be adduced? It is truly strange that proof is demanded concerning the possibility of a kind of knowledge instead of searching for it and verifying it for one’s self by undertaking the work necessary for its acquisition. For those who possess this knowledge, what interest can there be in all this discussion? Substituting a “theory of knowledge” for knowledge itself is perhaps the greatest admission of impotence in modern philosophy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > sophistic ramblings
        Was that supposed to be a refutation?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sophistic
          >shartrand russell
          do anglos really

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That guy you replied to is shitting the bed in a different thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seethe mathlet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No proof
      Except that there IS proof for an afterlife!

      https://www.amazon.com/Why-Afterlife-Obviously-Exists-Realer-Than-Real/dp/1785359851/

      The inference from there to a god existing is not huge, as NDErs often speak of a creator entity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Except that there IS proof for an afterlife!
        A bunch of shitty anecdotes isn't proof.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Except that there IS proof for an afterlife!
        A bunch of shitty anecdotes isn't proof.

        Oh really?

        https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

        So the "shitty anecdotes" about whats in the room isnt good reason to think whats in the room is there either?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People just want a room so bad they start telling stories about the room. There is no room.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What's clinical death

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Precisely, which is why most believe aren't atheists. It is obviously made up and you need qualitative evidence to suggest that it's true.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes i wonder if the fact that religion is determined by either "getting it or not", is an autism filter

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God is atheist, Negroe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God is atheist
      god is god retarded stirnerite

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God is atheist
      god is god retarded stirnerite

      >proof
      see [...]

      Satan the Creator and God the Devil are Anti-Theists

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Atheism is "God isn't real"
    It also includes “I don’t believe in gods because people who believe in them don’t have proof.

    I’m agnostic, which means to me with the information we have it is not possible to confirm or deny that some type of god exists.

    It’s not the same as that type of atheism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >proof
      see

      >Russell
      holy fuck i hate anglos so goddamn much blood is excreting from my every orofice
      >But an objection will undoubtedly be raised here: Is it possible to go beyond nature? We do not hesitate to answer plainly: Not only is it possible, but it is a fact. Again it might be said, is this not merely an assertion; what proofs thereof can be adduced? It is truly strange that proof is demanded concerning the possibility of a kind of knowledge instead of searching for it and verifying it for one’s self by undertaking the work necessary for its acquisition. For those who possess this knowledge, what interest can there be in all this discussion? Substituting a “theory of knowledge” for knowledge itself is perhaps the greatest admission of impotence in modern philosophy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sophistry. If I claim i have a Ferrari and don’t present proof that I have a Ferrari, you are entirely justified and reasonable if you just don’t believe me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a ferrari isnt a metaphysical subject you retard

          That guy you replied to is shitting the bed in a different thread

          and here you are seething about it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon do you seriously not understand the difference between a claim and evidence for the claim?
            By chance, is English your second language, my shia friend?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you literally just compared metaphysics to a ferrari, you are in no position to be such a smug homosexual, maybe youre just insecure about me clearly being in the right

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "metaphysics" is not just a fancy name for "made up voodoo". A good metaphysics needs to justify itself based on the actual real world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"metaphysics" is not just a fancy name for "made up voodoo".
                wtf... are anglos even human?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks it is
                Continental "philosophy"..... not even once.....

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you will always be a retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're either too stupid to understand analogy, or too retarded to notice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you compared metaphysics to a ferrari, nothing you will ever say or do will change this fact, you compared metaphysics to a ferrari, let this sink in, feel the shame, realize that you are not smart, and your parents were right, log off twitter, read a book, go offline.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a different poster that did understood what the guy you're seething at tried to convey.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that did understood
                really showed me there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that was intended. Good job.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i was pretending to be a retard
                how will i ever recover

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God appears in physical reality and interacts with it throughout the Bible. If he was actually real it would be possible to show he exists in reality just like you would any other real thing like a Ferrari for example

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh i thought you were pretending to be retarded.

                if you have to "see the ferrari" to believe in it, god having manifested in physical form in the scenario youve just given, according to your GENIUS line of reasoning, would be indisputable proof of god, you literally just made my point for me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the proof is.... le bible

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you in your own fucking scenario presupposed that the manifestation of god in the bible is true to make your point, fucking retard, do you have some kind of learning disability? youre literally so stupid i have to spoonfeed you your own posts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even that anon, you're just failing to make a coherent point. He said that in the Bible God manifests all the time yet this doesn't happen in reality, that's not presupposing the Bible as true you ESL.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                btw im a different poster

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and in that case it goes back to anons not-understanding of metaphysics

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does a God/gods exist
    Maybe
    >Does an omniscient omnipotent all-loving God exist?
    No and the concept is logically self-defeating.
    >Can a good but not perfect God exist
    Maybe

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In our universe something must come from nothing.
    >Universe must come from somewhere outside of this universe
    >Universe must have come form God.
    >Basically slightly modified Kaplan Cosmological proof.

    Self-refuting. If God can be uncaused then the universe can be uncaused.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >inbred bonehead still not understanding the analogy
    You can't make this shit up.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've never seen a Christian actually answer the following question, because they either run away or begin a spastic name calling fit. Here's your chance to shine, OP:
    >Why is a Christian atheistic towards other deities and other religions? Why are they surprised of atheist being atheistic towards their god?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why is a Christian atheistic towards other deities and other religions? Why are they surprised of atheist being atheistic towards their god?
      I call this one the Roman killer of Christians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christians do believe the other deities exist but they’re demons to them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why is a Christian atheistic
      >Why don't Christians believe that any gods exist
      Go learn what the word "Christian" means, then go learn what the word "atheist" means, then return to the thread.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cat individual showing up to shit yet another thread episode #203

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