ELECTRIC CARS TO BE TAXED FROM 2025 IN UK

Get fucked battery boys

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    OOOOHHH NONONONONO AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, totally unexpected right?

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >rac don't expect it to change demand
    lol, lmao

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering they don't directly pay a tax on fuel, you have to do something to fund road repair.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Domestic energy is subject to VAT at 5%, and this is what you will be charged if you work from home...
      5% clearly isn't enough for the powers that be. Thought they would have waited a little longer for uptake before pulling the rug though, like diesel.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      tax should be directly proportionate to car weight

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This for real, would be so beneficial for pretty much everything if the kei style cars were a thing in europe. Cheaper to do business and most people dont need more than a 50hp 4 seater anyway

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          My favorite car has 75hp in the configuration I like, but the base model was like 45.
          Yeah, it is a shitbox

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That would just mean trucks end up paying almost all of the road tax, which is pretty based

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They also cause most road wear

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what car registration is for tho
      Bigger cars pay more registestion because they do more damage to roads

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That already comes from your taxes whether you're a road user or not. It even comes out of the cost for registering your car.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ok?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last winter, I was hell bent on buying an EV. Shills had me for a second, then I started following EV channels on social media, I wanted to learn as much as I can before I pull the trigger. Once I realized each one of these influencer homosexuals is slowly starting to lose their optimism in regards to electrification and probably regretting some decisions, I let go of the idea and I'm glad I did. And don't get me started on the fact that each EV expert is deeply invested in EV companies and basically acts as salesman/lobbyist (you can read their posts on this board every day).

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was with you though half the post but now I’ll just tell you to take your meds.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        > - t. electric car salesperson [he/she]

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thats expected.

    Instead of giving unnecessary subsidies, they just stopped taxing EVs.

    Everyone should have done that and it would have been better off from an accounting perspective.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The RAC motoring group said it did not expect the change to dampen demand for electric vehicles
    Oh so its nothing

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao you believe them? My dad is buying a hybrid only because of subsidies making them cost the same as a diesel

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A big reason why people like EVs is not having to go to gas stations at all and minimizing trips to mechanics (new tires mostly)
        And if you don't live in a shithole like Germany the cost to driver per km is significantly cheaper than gas. Someone buying or leasing a new car will look at total cost of ownership

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          German here, the problem with ev is, that you need a garage with a charhing point which many people do not have. Also many "long range" ev are so big they don't fit in many garages.
          Also electricity prices just got raised by another 100% so fuck my life
          >inb4 hurr durr just own your own house with garage and 100 KW of solar panels on the roof in your mc mansion

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair street ev charging is a thing

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>inb4 hurr durr just own your own house with garage and 100 KW of solar panels on the roof in your mc mansion
            unironically what greens want. if you're poor just dont drive smile

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Greens want you to live in a pod, because urban living produces less co2.

              To be fair street ev charging is a thing

              Street charging in Germany is cancer for manh reasons and not a viable solution if we ever go beyond the 20 % ev rate

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cancer for manh reasons and not a viable solution if we ever go beyond the 20 % ev rate
                Care to elaborate why that is?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not the entire list and I am sure people will find more problems but these are just the ones I heard of in the last few days,
                > 1. non standardized payment processes within the eu
                >2. strange mix of fast chargers and trickle chargers
                >3. actually expensive to charge (I saw prives up to 60ct a KWh some months ago, probably more expensive now
                >4. lacking place and cable infrastructure to build more than a handful of chargers per street, some places have cables so old that fast chargers can not be build at all
                >5. ice cars and ev which are not currently charging are not allowed to park on charging places making the scarcity for parking spaces in inner cities worse
                >6. the advent of swappable batteries might make the charging infrastructure obsolete
                >7. Bavaria plans to create a hydrogen network making chargers obsolete
                But worst is
                >8. you are only allowed to stay on a charging place during the process of charging. Then you have to leave. Have fun to wake up at 3 am when your car finished charging and now you have to find an actual parking space (see point 5)

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don't seem to be familiar with fast charging vs slow charging and their associated fees

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you please elaborate, since no I don't drive an ev. I looked into it, but there are no small ev with a decent range and the reduction in servicing and fueling cost would not break even for a long time.
                If you think that 60 ct a KWh was an exaggeration or it was the cost of a super-hyper-charger, it wasn't. These are regular rates in Europe. Earlier this year I paid 35ct a kWh for my household. Starting this months my rates got increased to 70ct a kWh.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Those are rates for fast charging which people only really use on road trips. They charge cars in 20 minutes at 400-800v pushing anywhere between 100kw to 350kw
                They use external inverters the size of cars, bypassing the car's on board inverter, and also have idling fees

                Street chargers are regular 240v outlets and you often need a permit from the city to use them, same as street parking so people who don't live on the street can't use them
                They charge at 3kw to 7kw overnight, typically cost you standard utility rates, and don't have idling fees

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I looked up more current prices, it's 45ct for normal charging and 70ct for fast charging. Article was a week old.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I pay 6 cents lmao, get fucked

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Where do you live, it's not germany apparently

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Soviet Canuckistan. Time to push for nuclear reactors my guy

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>inb4 hurr durr just own your own house with garage and 100 KW of solar panels on the roof in your mc mansion
            Amen. I'm tired of the bs excuses that are made for EVs, also with the shitty excuse for how "well you don't actually drive that much, so low range is ok"
            it's the most tone deaf shit and is actually impeding the progress for Evs. Imagine if we never advanced starters in cars, you'd still have to go crank it yourself and maybe break an arm, and it would still be defended. Fucking braindead

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          EVs are fucking heavy. wonder what the tyre life on the average tesla is that is driven by a grampa and not hooned around

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Teslas are around as heavy as their gas contemporaries

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              looked it up and you're right. they're as pigfat as most other late model cars, typically heavier due to the batteries. they're all heavy enough to get put in the highest taxed weight category here though kek

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    are they taxxed by weight ?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tax semis more

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        that would make their bisnis non viable

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        like how teslas are conveniently absent

        that would make their bisnis non viable

        rubbish. like with everything, they just pass the cost on to the end consumer

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can easily search how much a Tesla weigh and place it on the chart

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their models fall between weighing as much as the RAV4 on the low end for the base level Model 3, and weighing as much as the Tahoe on the high end for the heaviest Model X. Do you expect 1/3 of the vehicles listed to be Teslas?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fat man on a freakishly heavy bicycle

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        410 what? what units? damage units? chart makes no sense

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          compared to the average car, learn to read a chart retard

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That chart is missing a row-- city bus

        According to a study for the American Public Transportation Association, loaded weights of 40 foot, two axle transit buses range between 30,000 to 44,000 pounds.

        Using the formula from the chart, a bus that weights 40,000 lbs loaded, does as much damage to the road as 10,000 cars.

        Study on bus weights: https://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/tcrp/docs/TCRPJ-11Task20-FR.pdf

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's actually a good point. Never hear the public transit people talk about it, even though they talk about heavy trucks and EVs.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            we want trams and trains, bus is for cucks

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's actually a good point. Never hear the public transit people talk about it, even though they talk about heavy trucks and EVs.

          That's why trains are superior

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, but not even the most dedicated public transportation guy suggesta trains everywhere. Buses would still be needed for less used routes/smaller towns.
            I guess in quite a few places trams could provide a similar service though.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Trams/Streetcars were in most American small towns until Goodyear and GM bought them out and killed them in favour for busses

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            unfortunately trains require rigorous planning and foresight

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The bane of every American

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        how is an average car heavier than a rav4?

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://news.sky.com/story/autumn-statement-electric-vehicle-owners-to-pay-vehicle-excise-duty-from-2025-12749553

    >Until now, electric vehicles have been exempt, but the annual VED charge for cars will now be £10 in the first year, then £165 from the second year of registration onwards. The cost for electric vans will be £290

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically, it was coming sooner or later. Driving accounts for about half of those microplastics that have been getting a lot of concern recently, with a large portion of city dust being due to traffic.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    my cunt wants to tax KMs driven rather than a set amount each month. It's fucking over

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cars shouldn’t be taxed at all.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a matter of being fair
    It's just politicians realising that there will be a decline in taxes from petrol taxes

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    pay the piper lmao just you wait and see how far it goes

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Taxation is theft anyway. No matter how self-sustaining you make yourself out to be, the governments will find a way to tax you.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    this was always going to happen. all the benefits that EV cucks use as selling points will fade away once the majority of the population is driving them, or in this case, still not even remotely an EIGHTH of it. for their next trick, anywhere that still has free EV charging will become paid, making them essentially gas stations where you "refuel" for an hour or more

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it kinda fucked that evs werent taxed before because they actually cause more wear on the roads due to higher weight

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was to incentivize people to buy them. In Norway you didn't pay sales tax on them for some years, basically took out 50% of the cost. Probably why they are so popular there.
      It's funny that many lefties supported it, as it's basically tax cuts for the richer people.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I cannot wait for the day they rescind the petrol car ban because synthetic fuel makes EVs pointless.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      synthetic fuels use far more energy than EV and their batteries, it won't make sense for the average person to bother with them. And you lose the convenience of charging at home
      synthetic fuels will only really be used by rich people to drive their old Porsches and Ferraris, because $20+ per gallon is nothing to them

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >convenience of charging at home
        you say that like people will be homeowners and not podrenters in 20 years time

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Podrenters can ride the bus for all I care. If you don't own a home by 30 you've failed at life and should consider killing yourself

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't feel so good EVsisters!

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