Ego death isn't what people think it is. It's over rated as well I find especially after doing it by accident a few times while tripping balls. It's like having your brain restart cause it hit an error while you stare into a void. The irony is normally you are thoughtless during it, but during my first shroom trip I found that I could still think during it rather. I realized unlike before with other substances I came out normal instead. No sense of self was lost and I realized there wasn't "ego loss" like what people worded just me as my soul watching my brain restart conscious as much as me with my normal sence of self.
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1. Suffering is inseparable from existence.
2. Craving is the root cause of suffering.
3. Suffering can be ended by ending craving.
4. There is a path to ending craving and suffering.
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>The Four Noble Truths
>1. Suffering is inseparable from existence.
you didn't study buddhism
from my experience, and from what ive heard from others, its not one and done. it doesnt happen by accident. its something you have to work at. put a lot of effort into. over a LONG ASS period of time. and it never really stops. its something you must continually put effort into. yes, overtime it gets easier. yes, it may even become almost automatic for you. but you will ALWAYS risk slipping backwards, if you dont stay ontop of it.
lastly, the one thing i agree with, is using the term ego DEATH. like, imho yes thats POSSIBLE.... but like, for experts. thats like, the final plateau. for most plebs like you and me, we should be aiming for simply learning to control it. to take it out of the drivers seat. after a LONG ASS time, if you keep this up, and you feel you wanna go more hardcore, then by all means, go for it. but going for ego death right off the batt, is like learning to play a sport, and expecting you will immediately be at the national, or international level.
your ego is a tool. dedicating "long ass" parts of your very short life to destroying the tool god gave you, and worse thinking you stand to gain something from this, is moronic.
i respectfully disagree. to put it bluntly, its growing up. stop lying to yourself, to others, and be real. heres a quote i like. it doesnt fit perfectly, but it expresses how i felt, when i went thru it. this is a rite of passage, of sorts
>When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things
you will continue disagreeing until you see for yourself. nothing I can say will change that.
i would never want to go back to my old self. been going for almost 20 years now. i know what i got.
also, sounds like youre "projecting" there, and those choice words, are meant for you. read it again, but direct it towards you. take your own advice. deep down, you know this is SOMETHING, but youre too scared to try it. so instead, shit on other ppl, who are making the progress you seek. if you cant do it, then NO ONE else will. amirite?
and no offence, but clearly you didnt get the gist of my post.
i specifically said i dont quite agree with ego death. its more getting control of it. taking it out of the drivers seat. its still there for you, when you need it. eventually you will rely on it less.
i know youre scared, so you wanna argue, lash out, and try to get others to doubt themselves. its clear youre curious about this. maybe put away the childish things, and see what happens when you grow.
You have a real self, the fake self is the facade you put on. People try to rid of both and I find it stupid. It's like taking off a mask then then trying to rip your face off next.
Sorry for calling you retarded, druggie. You might be onto something but fail to explain it clearly due lacking the concepts.
Of course you exist and experience without the ego.
I have never had someone explain ego death to me in a way that makes sense. I meditate and have done shrooms and I still don't really get it.
Ego death is accepting 'one-ness' of soul
that's it.
nothing more, nothing less
the 'ego' being 'self' : ego death = identifying 'self' in 'all' or... no 'self' comparatively
those who are against it are reliant on ego because they think they're special
there are levels ofcourse like a monk who might deny desires of self for spiritual fulfilment but the goal of ego death is acceptance of being 'one' with the entire universe
for anyone scared of losing their ego, you basically trade it for an upgraded one that allows you more power than a single self ever had and your body becomes universal to compensate : compared to someone who is pure ego : a person who identifies with the entire universe would 'seem' like they are pure ego equally because the 'importance' of an egoless 'self' dwarfs the ego through magnitude : it's an upgrade imo to become 'one with the universe' : all things connected = ego death.
I suppose it's paradoxical in the end for your being assumes the entire universe and appears ego : but perhaps it's just optimal housing of spirit to associate with the entire universe: an infinite conceptual self parallel of all life vs a self deluded value of importance otherwise
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Real ego death will absolutely change everything you think you knew. It's like snapping out of a daydream and finding you are actually god, you will see how you create this reality through pure imagination. My own personal theory on this is it is actually us getting to access the part of our brains that generate reality as we see it, which is the next best thing to being a god for real.
I don't actually disagree with you that much. I think there's a couple of related experiances in there honestly and the 'hard boot' is probably the least interesting, truthly I would put most language based hallucinations in the same category as ego death because when you start talking to yourself, inquiring to yourself, having sort of a bivalent existance to yourself I find it a bit more helpful. You begin to realize that a lot of what you 'consider you' is very much a gui running on top of the software even that you put to the side if you need to. The goal of Ego Death isn't to destroy harm or reduce the self but rather to show you different ways you can be yourself. Sometimes people need that restart (hello my Depressed Friends, take mushrooms).
>I came out normal
That's the goal Anon. Some other Anons have to work harder than others on that. I still remember pretty vividly being a Ruddy Orange color and I have to admit, I vibed with it.
If you think it's dumb, you haven't experienced it.
Exactly. I have like three ego deaths per hour while doing whip-its in the alley behind the Lowes I work at. I'm pretty sure it also involves sucking off a homeless guy. Anyone who disagrees with me hasn't experienced it.
Each time I have experienced ego death it has basically just been experiencing the world as a blank slate for a while. Which is fine and dandy, but I like who I am as is so when I come out the other side I end up finding my way back to the same sort of place. If anything it reassures me that I am on the right path already, seeing it from fresh eyes and saying "oh wow that sounds pretty good I can't believe I have come this far". Maybe if I hated myself I would be changed after but I don't.